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Is hardtack the most god-tier of war foods or what? Take practically an hour to make with a regular oven, only consists of flour, water, and salt, and can be kept at room temperature for decades. Tell me this wondrous biscuit isn't the best shtf food of all time.
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>>23806332

It's also a good way to store flour; you don't end up with those little beetle assholes sneaking into it if you do it right. Then you can just crush it down and use it like normal as needed.

I keep a bin of it in my stockpile.
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Sure, if you like having crooked teeth.
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Honey.
Full of energy, doesn't go bad ever unless stored badly.
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>>23806348

Combine honey and water in skillet, at tack, allow to simmer = sweet soft tack.
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>>23806340
Those beetle bastards are part of my protein supplement!
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Scurvy up in this bitch!
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>>23806332

>Almost no protein
>Lacking many vitamins and minerals required for proper function
>Made pretty much entirely of one of the major allergens

Yeah, nah.
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>>23806366
>being genetically inferior

lol
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>>23806366
Hard tack is calories, and ideally should be used to stretch other rations.
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>>23806357
This.
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>>23806366
>Allergies

Tough titty said the kitty
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I'd much rather have a stockpile of dried beans over a stockpile of hardtack.
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>>23806332
shit on a shingle is better
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>>23806381
>>23806398

What happens if the medic of your group is allergic to wheat or gluten-intolerant?

Tough titty? Hope none of you get sick/injured after they die?
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>>23806410
Why am I walking around with some guy who is liable to die from basic food stuffs? Why are the rest of us not cross trained with the medic?

Nah nigga, go choke on a loaf of bread.
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Gluten free btfo.
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>>23806332
Do hardtack taste good?
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>>23806332
According to this book right here (which you should totally buy, btw) 19th century British sailors ate hardtack 9 days of out 10. It was hard and tacky, but it provided the bulk of their sustenance and helped fuel the most powerful navy in the world at the time.
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>>23806332
well shit is certainly going to hit something if all you ate was hardtack.
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>>23806442
They taste like a salty flour cracker that's doesn't have any butter in it.
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It is the best for various reasons.
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>>23806461
I ate Vegemite sandwich and is very salty. I loved it so hardtack shouldn't be a problem for me. :-)
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>>23806452
>ate hardtack 9 days out of 10
>It was hard and tacky
giggled more than should have.
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Is it tough to eat?
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>>23806482
You dip it in milk/water to soften it, or you can bite it off, but try to use the teeth you don't like having.
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>>23806476
Vegemite a shit. Bovril master race!
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>>23806476
>I ate Vegemite
Yeah, having no working taste buds should help.
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>>23806442
it tastes like flour and (if you're lucky) salt. soak it in coffee to keep it from snapping your teeth

>>23806332
completely nutrient devoid. It'll give you caloric energy, but personally I bring some jerky, nuts, and some bullion cubes in case something furry ends up in my pot.
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>>23806484
Beef butter?! You make me very hungry. I shall try that one day.
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>>23806485
Peasant.
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>>23806488
What....hardtack can snap teeth. That's a new fact.
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>>23806475
Best prison shiv ever devised.
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>>23806485
Fortunately my taste bud isn't malfunctioning. *chuckle* :-)
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>>23806498
I lol'd...
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>>23806491
You're the one eating yeast. Seems more like a more peasant thing to me.
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>>23806476
>>23806484
Peasants.
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>>23806502
Vegemite is good for you! I loved them a lot. It's yummy. You can try them on hardtack.
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>>23806502
Vegemite tastes like a vaginal yeast infection. Don't ask me how I know.
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>>23806504
Marmite is a rip off Vegemite so you are peasant like us. Join the peasant party! * buttering vegemite on hardtack* You want some mate?
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>>23806410
>psychosomatically "allergic" to gluten
>medical professional
>not knowing that essentially no one is allergic to gluten
I'd probably shoot him for lying about being trained in medicine.
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>>23806509
Vaginal yeast doesn't taste like salty at all. It is a lot more salty than sardines.
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>>23806504
>implying
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>>23806515
>Allergic to gluten

Where did I say this?
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>>23806493
They haven't been called "Sheet Iron Crackers" for nothing.

Pic unrelated
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>>23806513
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>>23806332
Nuttela
Srsly
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>>23806513
>marmite launched in 1902
>vegemite launched in 1923
how bout no
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>>23806521
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>>23806523
>>23806366
>>Made pretty much entirely of one of the major allergens

Right about there.
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>>23806523
>guise i'm totes gluten intolerant! I need some wheatgrass and non gmo suffering free carrots or I'll be too weak to put bactine on cuts!

no one is actually gluten intolerant, they are just special snowflake faggots. someone with that mentality in societal unrest isn't going to be part of my shtf plan
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>>23806509
>>23806519
>mfw im not the only guy here with his mustard wings

I will say my experience was actually more bittersweet. Like one of those hot yeast rolls you get from a fried chicken joint, except rotten sweet to the point of bitterness.
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>>23806357
Add smooth peanut butter!
Now you have crunchy peanut butter!
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>>23806544

Wheat is an allergen.

Coeliac disease is not an allergic reaction.

>>23806545

>Coeliac disease doesn't exist!

Intestinal biopsies are not a thing either, I guess.
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>>23806535
Marmite is less salty than Vegemite...OK I admit you are right. It isn't a rip off but still taste better than Marmite.
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>>23806545
There are a few people who do legitimately get ill eating food with gluten, but they are a super small minority and complain about it less than people who are on the bandwagon.
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>>23806558
>less salty
Marmite is pretty fucking salty as it is, any more would bone the taste.
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>>23806557
>Allergen
>noun, Immunology
>1.
>any substance, often a protein, that induces an allergy : common allergens include pollen, grasses, dust, and some medications.

You asked when you said allergic, an individual that reacts negatively to an allergen is allergic you dumb fuck. And no shit Coeliac disease is not an allergic reaction, it is an autoimmune disease like lupus and rheumatoid arthritis.
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>>23806557
>>23806561
>1 in 133 have celiac disease
>1 in 6 have HIV
>1 in 10 have crohn's disease

statistically FUCKING NO ONE actually has a fucking gluten intolerance. Get your hipster heads out of your cavernous assholes.
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>>23806489
Its actually supposed to be made into instant beef consome, but it does taste bomb on toast
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>>23806564
How about equally salty? This way so we won same.
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>>23806573

I mentioned two separate, completely different things.

Wheat allergies.
Coeliac disease.

Both exist.

>>23806578

Unless you're a vampire, I'm not sure why HIV really merits being brought up in this thread.

Also, most people with crohn's end up on a gluten-free diet to stay in remission.
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>>23806357
Weevils are actually pretty tasty. Found an old packet of pasta that was utterly infested with about three generations of weevils. Cooked the whole thing and had a very nutty flavored dish.
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>>23806578
>1 in 6 have HIV
In west africa maybe

Let's see some sources, nigger
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>>23806581
Where is borvil?
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>>23806578
>There are a few people who do legitimately get ill eating food with gluten, but they are a super small minority and complain about it less than people who are on the bandwagon.

>There are a few people
>they are a super small minority

Reading comprehension chief, I was agreeing with you.

Fuck this derail, time to get back on track. We making hobo wine.
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>>23806381
implying
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>>23806594
Bovril is a britbong invention made for Napoleon to feed his entire army with protein using liquefied beef. It was an MRE that became popular with civilians.

>http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/bovril-a-very-beefy-and-british-love-affair
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>>23806578
>NO ONE actually has a fucking gluten intolerance
I know a dude with it. He's glad hipsters picked it up because theres hella more gluten free food now
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>>23806545
Different anon, but you're wrong. My doctor has advised me to stay away from gluten indefinitely. The reason being that a blood test showed that gluten was behind some serious health complaints I had.
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>>23806611
nice, tell me more
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>>23806611
I am proud to be white. Definitely I will try that but I don't know where to get them because I am in Straya.
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Easier to chew is to cut them into smaller squares.
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Powdered eggs
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>>23806639
There's no Bovril in Aussieland? That's strange, because Bovril is owned by Unilever which also distributes Ben & Jerry's, so anywhere that BJs are sold should also have Bovril. I was in Singapore recently and Bovril, Vegemite, and Marmite was available side by side.
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>>23806673
Some shops may have that but I never seen them in my area.
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>>23806383

Yup. It's like rice or bread. only harder on the teeth

>>23806442

It hardly taste anything at all. It's like that passover cracker.
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>>23806410
I'd encourage the tripfag in my group to commit sudoku.
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>>23806452
I fucking love that book
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>>23806452
> but it provided the bulk of their sustenance

Yeah until their teeth fell out from scurvy you idiot

What now? Drool on the hardtack until you can eat it with your gums?
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>>23806476

Don't forget the new kid
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>>23806673

Bonox = Bovril and is available in Australia.

Nice brewed up with a shot of Port in it.
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>>23806780
Wow, dipshit. Bulk does not mean entire diet. Learn some fucking english.
It only takes a small bit of vitamin C to never get scurvy.
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>>23806546

Nope.

Nope.

I drew the line at Red Wings.
Fuck any and all female administrated medals.

They can fucking keep'em.

Sweet mother mercy, no.
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>>23806780
>implying sailors weren't the scum of society and completely expendable
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>>23806824
I actually find yeast infections to be less gross than period blood. I mean, it's blood with the consistency of jelly. Fuck that shit.
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>>23806332
in my opinion, no. this is going to sound odd, but...

japanese foods. not stupid freezer meals, but rather straight up ingredients. most japanese ingredients (barring things like fresh fish, shrimp or chicken) have practically indefinite shelf lives and FAR more vitamins than simple hard tack.

>rice
stores for near eternity if dry and kept from pests.
>nori
basically paper made out of kelp. although it becomes slightly brittle/stale if left open, again, practically indefinite shelf life if kept dry and pest-free. Rich in iron/folate and I believe phosphate. (if unfamiliar, it's the stuff they wrap sushi in)
>katsuoboshi/bonito flakes
dried tuna. can be bought as a solid block and grated like cheese, or bough pre-shredded in air-tight packaging. If bought pre-sealed, sealed containers can last near-indefinitely. open containers go stale after a year, but are still safe to eat if dry and pest free. Notice: it's fucking fish! so here's some protein and vitamins for you.
>dashi
tuna soup stock. basically, its powdered katsuoboshi + some other things. Again: dry and pest free = lasts forever. Dashi is damn near pre-modern MSG minus all the bad health effects of the latter. Learn to use it correctly in your cooking and it can turn even the most boring shit into an awesome dish. srsly, when I'm running low on food, I can settle my hunger quick on a bowl of dashi broth and mushrooms.
>udon
udon noodles are literally just flour+salt+water. Carry flour and dashi, and you have hearty noodle soup with a protein rich broth anywhere that you can source water at.

Naturally, you can supplement this shit with whitepeople food like summer sausage (imma have to try to roll sushi with this to see how it tastes), canned meats (chicken, kippers, salmon, etc) and maybe dried citrus/rum/C tablets to prevent scurvy.

but hardtack? psssh...get that 17th century bullshit out of here. even tolkien made fun of how bad it was in the hobbit with his ficticious "cram".
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>>23806885
>Japanese food
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>>23806533
>went to school for computer shit
>got hooked on linux
>brainwashed by the FSF for years
>can't spell this word any other way than "gnutella"
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>>23806896
>wii wrourd rike to cook.
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>>23806896
say what you will, food is the only thing I weeb about...

...and the many times I've cooked gook food innawoods to please the GF and her cohorts tell me that it's good shit for cooking without modern facilities, keeps well and is tasty, nutritious, lightweight and bulkless.
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>>23806546
>Vaginal yeast
I didn't know they had favors in them.
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>>23806611
not much protein, too much fat
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>>23806357
If you gather worms, dry them out and grind them into a powder you can use it to add protein to soups.
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>>23806452

>That book. THAT FUCKING BOOK.

Been thinking about that book lately, but couldn't remember the goddamn name of it. Quick, to the Amazonmobile!

Thanks Anon!
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>>23806589
wut
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>>23806934
Be sure to pick up the BEST CROSS-SECTIONS version, which also includes the castle and T-34.

>http://www.amazon.com/Stephen-Biestys-Absolutely-Section-cross-sections/dp/0751371033/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1417525386&sr=8-3&keywords=best+cross+sections
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>>23806951

You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.
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>>23806885
>>23806912
but how to cook rise without using so much water ?

I use 2 cups of water per cup of rice
and run at low boil letting it all evaporate
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>>23806963
Use pic related. One cup of water per cup of rice. Press the start button and the cooker will automatically turn off when it's done.
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>>23806332
In nordic countries, people have been using rye-based crispbread instead of hardtack. The historical reason for this was that rye is more resistant to nordic climate than wheat, and was the most common cereal grain in those areas.

Crispbread is made of rye flour, salt, and water, and can be leveled with yeast or sourdough. Unleaveled bread can be baked with crushed ice to inroduce the air pockets. Traditional crispbread is bakend in round wafers with a hole in middle.

The resulting crisbread has extremely long storage life. The bread constain airpockets, and can be eaten directly without breaking your teeth. Sourdough gives the bread distinctive flavor, and the flavor is improved when the bread is aged, Sourdough also makes the bread resistant to mold, bacteria or insects.

Finnish military rations always contain a packet of crispbread, and the bread is usually available at mess hall for each meal.
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>>23806987
>want some rye?
>'course you do!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxQ44dlGkD0
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>>23806975
what to do with the starch skin at the bottom ?

I do have a method that only takes 10 minutes for white rice and 20 for brown

but it uses 3 cups of water per 250 grams of rice
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>>23807005
Soaking the rice for half an hour before cooking will soften the starch and prevent the skin on the bottom. Using a rice cooker will also prevent a starch skin.
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>>23807005
>>23806963

rice is water intensive regardless, i'm afraid (im the weebcook from before btw). I live east of the mississippi, so that's not a problem for me.

Concerning starch:
japanese (that is, short grain rice you use for sushi) rice at least (the only other rice I eat is cheap knorr minute rice shit) requires that you rinse it before you cook it to remove the starch. The starch makes one sick and/or farty when left in the rice. See the next paragraph(s) and learn more:

tbh, though, I may cook like a weeb, but rice is something I rarely cook (srsly, I'm actually shit at rice cooking and only do it if I'm making sushi). Jap food is largely dehydrated...it's light shit altogether. my main staples in jap food are dashi + canned meats + noodles (for innawoods). this kind of shit is like null weight + high benefits (vitamins, flavours, etc)

you want my opinion on innawoods/shtf food?

>instant rice meals
shit like knorr insta-rice shit; lasts like rice but is easier to make. "requires" oil or butter for flavour though.
>summer sausage
shit is a godsend and makes you feel like a stalker eating it. short-ish (iirc year-to-5 shelf life) shelf life, but requires no refridgeration. tastes good and makes crackers useful

jap soups and dried shit like nori (seaweed paper), wakame (seaweed shreds) and dashi + forest floor forage supplement this.

it must be noted that mr.japcook has become drunk to the point of not even being able to type in the meanwhile.
please ask simple questions in the future, and expect dissapointing answers. I play vodka king now!!!!!!!11111!!!!
I'll be lurking, but still:

look into the historical foods of ancient cultures, especially the preserved/dried foods thereof. you'll find inspiration.
as a moderner who lives in a non-wheat producing nation, hardtack just seems stupid to me though....
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>>23806427
probably because he's holding a gun, has your back and your father already abandoned you.
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>>23807079
The only rice worth a shit is Thai Hom Mali or Jasmine rice. It's very easy to cook, retains moisture moderately well, and is aromatic enough to eat by itself.
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>>23806885
>udon noodles are literally just flour+salt+water. Carry flour and dashi, and you have hearty noodle soup with a protein rich broth anywhere that you can source water at.
>hard tack is literally just flour+salt+water. Carry bullion cubes and flour, and you have hearty dumpling soup with a protein rich broth anywhere that you can source water at.

just because the zipperheads do it that way doesn't mean it is better. Shit, If you were going to carry loose flour and noodles and shit, just pack the ingredients to make bannock (generally premixed and ready to wet and cook) and vacuum packed dried meat like a normal person.
>bu...bu...bu...i can buy 1000lbs of rice for $200!
and? Fuck, I'd be turning most of it into rice flour to make bread, not fucking around with cooking rice for every meal ever.
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>>23806951
God damn that book is expensive. And the only guy selling it on Ebay has pegged his price to Amazon.
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>>23807109
drunkjapcook here:

I'll agree with you to an extent for SHTF conditions, but:

instant rice is easier to make tasty and stores just as long.

jasmine/any long grain rice is wholly unsuitable for making sushi (irrelevant to shtf, but wholly relevant for the /ck/ inclined here)
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>>23806366
If you are allergic to fucking wheat or gluten or whatever you should just kill yourself. What a gimped life. On par with being a paraplegic.
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>>23807116
bannock seems pretty cool to be honest, but because most of my culinary knowledge is indeed inspired by zipperhead methods, I wouldn't know how to integrate that with the other ingredients I've listed.

to be wholly honest, though: if you're carrying flour and salt and have a source of water, you literally have 90% of human history's culinary arts at hand for you, so it's all good one way or another...however, turining flour into anything is almost always time consuming!

>vacuum packed dried meat
I'm a poorfag, so prepackaged asian shit and summer sausage is what I can purchase easily in comparison to a vacuum sealer.


if I could expound on anything more for overland travel, though, summer sausage is the thing! I would verily be a shill for a sausage manufacturer if it were possible!
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>>23807123
very few people are allergic to it, and the ones who are simply deal with it like normal humans.

to those gluten hipsters: kill yourselves. I knew a celiac -- he ate bread anyway because he couldn't afford hipster bread. he shat funny, but goddamn the lot of you for thinking you matter.

please...suicide is where i wish you to end up.
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>>23807152
agree on the sausage thing. As long as it is sealed properly it will last unrefrigerated for a goodly time and it's pretty cheap. Goes a lot better with non nippon foods though. Rice goes with everything, but sausage and bannock is godtier.
>mfw you probably don't know about pemmican
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>>23807117
You can buy Stephen Biesty's books individually on book depository. Free worldwide shipping from the UK.

http://www.bookdepository.com/author/Stephen-Biesty
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erbswurst

nuff said
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1/2

I had some time to experiment over the thanksgiving holiday and I have to say im pretty pleased with my results -- which were 20 minute meals ready to cook that cost about 30 cent to make, give you a complete protein, fiber, complex and simple carbs and weighs just ounces on top of being flexible enough to add anything you find to it. I spent a lot of time testing and tasting the various freeze dried stuff i could get my hands on too and have developed a plan around the two. I think that might be off topic for this forum, but anyway...

I made wha i would consider 2 variations of what the germans and austrians called erbswurst, which is what the rest of the world would call a dried split pea soup, and these things are surprisingly tasty when i get done with them.

I bought dried split green peas and dried pinto beans to use as the base for each of the soup bases respectively. The green peas i proccessed into flour, incorporated chicken boullion, garlic powder, onion powder, salt, thyme and lemon pepper and blended to a flour-like consistency. I mixed a quarter cup of the mixture with a quarter cup rice (did this in BIG batches and spread them out for the family to try and to save). A cup and a half of boiling water and a lid turn it into somthing surprisingly tasty. Goes ok with squirrel, chicken, salt cured bacon (fatback overwhelms though) regular bacon, and i added some wild onions and garlic i found growing about and it went well.

The second batch i made was with pinto beans. I processed them into flour, incorporated beef boullion, coffee grounds, chili powder, cumin, garlic powder, onion powder, paprika, cayenne and S&P. Also combined with rice by halves. A quarter cup of the mixture and 2 cups of boiling water seems to e the sweet spot. This shit was pretty good. Didn't try adding anything to it at the time because I was stuck inside, I imagine it would work very well though.
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>>23807174
>mfw you probably don't know about pemmican
nigga, imma /k/ommando, so of course I know about pemmican...however, I've never made it. Sounds like "anti-scurvy injun jerky" to be forthright about it, though.

>Goes a lot better with non nippon foods though
oh god, naturally. japs are hard to play nice with if you know what my drunk ass means. still:
99% of jap ingredients are light weight as fuck, since they're dehydrated. I've carried 3 course meals innawoods, fed 4 and then left 5 days later feeling boss.
>pretty cheap
meh...not really. it costs as much as any meat as far as I'm concerned. It's just that it's 2 days of food per "log" + no refridgeration that sells it.
I love the flavour too, but that's an aside (and i really do want to make a sushi roll with it + wild wood sorrel...god that sounds good as fuck.)
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2/2

The second batch i made was with pinto beans. I processed them into flour, incorporated beef boullion, coffee grounds, chili powder, cumin, garlic powder, onion powder, paprika, cayenne and S&P. Also combined with rice by halves. A quarter cup of the mixture and 2 cups of boiling water seems to e the sweet spot. This shit was pretty good. Didn't try adding anything to it at the time because I was stuck inside, I imagine it would work very well though.

I separated all the batches into individual serving size and wrote cooking directions on the bags. I put mine in one of my bags wrapped in a rubber band in a oilskin?/plastic coated sack and i have no worries of it ever going bad.

The pros are that theyre pretty good on the nutrition scale and on the tasty scale. Theyre cheap as hell (especially considering a mountainhouse meal/entree can be anywhere from 4-7 bucks and MRE's...well, just fuck MRE's), they're lightweight and compact as can be. Theyre also flexible enough to either be eaten solo, or incorporated with almost anything you could find edible (mushrooms, onions, berries) or anything you would bring with you as you go(cornbread, bannock, hardtack, biscuits).

The cons are that they do require some attention and time to cook. 15-20 minutes (just like cooking rice) and that they lack any inherent texture (hence incorporating the freeze dried products into the plan as well)

The next couple of things im gonna try are processing the rice into flour to drastically reduce the cook time, using different carbs (grits, noodles etc), fucking around with those 50 cent gravy packets to see if i can get any good results out of them with this idea (im thinking premixed grits and gravy would be a badass meal that'd only take about 5 min to make) and when i get some time in the woods, ill boil some water, add the mix and the water to a stainless steel cup and shake, then break camp and start walking and see if itll cook through
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>>23806410
I wouldt travel with someone who will be a burden on my group. Id probably kill him and take his shit
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>>23806545
Gluten intolerance just gives you the shits.
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>>23807221
>i would probably kill
>burden

even the retarded kid inna wheel chair can be taught to make cordage.

srsly, the only people who cannot be made useful by an adept commander are those who
>would die without electricty
>cannot communicate due to mental retardation

literally anyone else can be made useful. if you think otherwise, you are either a bad commander or think shtf is something it isn't.
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>>23806896
Nigga at the front look like Lord Voldemort
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>>23807241
nugga, they asians.... they all look like voldemort.
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>>23806366

> be starving
> oh no I cant eat this, its not whey protein isolate an doesn't contain BCAAs and is made up of dirty dirty carbs
> what do you MEAN assault, I walked for 1 hour yesterday, I'm running the risk of muscle loss here

2014, faggot = you

Nutrition is bullshit as it is, its even more bullshit when you're talking about situations where calories are more important than content
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>>23807239
If they are in a wheelchair they hamper mobility

I could teach a retard or a wheelie to make cordage, or i could just teach an able bodied person to do it, and they can also shoot and hunt and do other things

In SHTF, its not a charity, i dont need every asshole, i need people who can do the most
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>>23806365
Got pine trees? No scurvy.
Pine tree needles brewed up into a tea, add sweetener like honey, and you can stave off the effects of scurvy indefinitely.
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>>23807241
That's Jiro, arguable THE best sushi chef in the world. A 10-piece meal at his 12-seat sushi bar costs $300 and has a 6 month waiting list.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vv0G6F4Kfk
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>>23806780
Why do you think Brits are nicknamed Limeys? They ate limes during voyages to prevent scurvy, limey was a joke nickname because everyone thought they were being stupid and superstitious.
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>>23806400
Why not both? Make a bean soup, throw in the hard tack to soften up, and you enjoy both that way.
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>>23806410
Don't worry I'm not
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>>23807253
>I could teach a retard or a wheelie to make cordage, or i could just teach an able bodied person to do it
an able bodied person making cordage for you in rear areas is an able bodied person who you don't have manning a rifle on the front.

you are one of the people I referred to implicitly in the former post as being an incompetent commander.
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>>23807265
Someones watching Netflix
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>>23807263
can one simply eat pine needles? tea is a complex annoyance that requires a water change...just curious for convenience sake.
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>>23807239
>>would die without electricty
>>cannot communicate due to mental retardation
so people stupid enough to have a stylish gluten intolerance.
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>>23807282
Why have one disabled person and one abled person when i can have two abled persons?


Why dont we have people like that in the US Military?

What if we need to move quickly?
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>>23806442
Hardtack tastes like a bland cracker - some salt, other than that just cooked flour.
You make it taste better by having bullion, dried onion soup mix, any dried soup or bean mix really and you soak it in that to add moisture back into it and flavor.
Makes whatever soup you're having be more filling that way.

>>23807290
You can - they taste like Pine Sol (no big surprise there), but they have 0 calories - they are like celery in that regard. They do, like I said, have an immense amount of Vitamin C in them though, so you can stave off scurvy.
Just don't get them confused with other conifers like Yew. Yew is poisonous and will make you sick at the very least, if not dead.
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>>23806484
British scum
Remove Queen
Ausfailia stronk
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>>23807296
>Why have one disabled person and one abled person when i can have two abled persons?

you logic ignores the fact that women still exist, regardless of the fact that they are wholly inferior to men.

how do you deal with women?
they are either too weak for use, or too pregnant for movement.
how does one simultaneously deal with both combat utlity and carrying on the human species?

>Why dont we have people like that in the US Military?

the US military exists in an industrial time period where natural selection doesn't actually exist. it can expand its numbers without recruiting females/effective retards and doesn't have the same issues as a tribal society.

you need to think like the cheiftain of a tribal society moreso than platoon's barnes, because the former is who lives longer in SHTF.
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>>23806805
you mean iSnack 2.0?
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>>23807290
you can eat the inner bark of pine trees
>you can cook it too; forms a kinda toasted cracker

this is why an axe BTFO a saw for innawoods. Chop down a foot diameter pine with your felling axe and eat like a king.
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>>23807316
>implying we can fuck the disabled
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>>23807318
Take the bark, grind it to a flour with some acorns, add water and yeast and a little sweetener like honey, and you have a nutty bark bread.
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>>23807303
>on pine
cool. I knew pine bark was edible and that pine teas were a thing, but didn't know about wether the raw leaf had problematic effects. I also knew other conifers were toxic.

curious: any field experience with them? primary concern is liquid-shit (too drunk to spell dia-rea)
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>>23807316
Women can do all the same things that your disabled person can, while still retaining mobility. Even pregnant women dont need a special chair to get around.
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>>23807322
you can when there's no government to tell you that they're too stupid to consent.
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>>23807335
>Even pregnant women dont need a special chair to get around.

tell that to a thrid-timester-er. make them run a mile straight and see where your mobility goes.
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>>23806951
I remember reading this one in elementary school. Took several minutes to realize the man operating the turret controls was cut in half and I was looking at his intestines.
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>>23807316
>industrial time period where natural selection doesn't actually exist

nope
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>>23807330
Pine bark is edible, pine needle tea of course, if you've ever had a pesto sauce you've had pine nuts which are edible too.
Pine needles may upset your stomach because of the taste, but nothing terribly bad. Younger needles are better than older ones, and something like as little as 20 needles has as much or more vitamin C than an orange.
If you boil them, the longer you boil them the stronger it gets. It can be used as an expectorant, decongestant, and if you let it cool, an antiseptic wash for wounds.
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>>23807265
>Jiro
Muh nigga. Even Anthony Bourdain likes it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXAjCWNpO3A
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>>23806452
Anon delivers

Current status: basking in childhood memories
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Beef jerky
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>>23807357
im just worried about shits. dia-rea means dehydration which means death in the end in pre-industrial conditions.
what sorts of upsets can one expect from raw neeldles? (I have a genetically inferior wife...I've eaten pine neeldles to no end with no error)

>>23807356
gb2/pol/. srsly, you're a moron if you think you're correct.
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>>23807393
If she suffers from upset stomach easily, she can just chew the needles then spit them out, and just swallow the juice from them.
Too much pine needle or pine needle tea can cause upset stomach, but it varies widely from person to person. I've never heard of it giving someone diarrhea.
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>>23807393
Oh, there is one special consideration when drinking/eating pine, spruce, or some of the other needles - in women, it can act as an abortifacient (it'll cause an abortion) if they are pregnant.
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>>23807303
Have to be careful around Yew in general, even rainwater that runs off them is bad.
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>>23807480
Yeah, had a buddy who had a cousin who lost a horse who drank from a ditch near some yews after a heavy rain.
The ditch had collected the needles, and sat long enough to steep in the water.
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>>23807504
>getting killed by a tree that dropped some needles near some water
Jesus that's terrifying
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>>23806475
Discworld Dwarf Bread
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>>23807540
Yew needles and berries are extremely toxic, and it's a painful way to go.
If you have pets, never get a fresh yew tree for your Christmas tree, especially if the buggers tend to eat plants.
It will kill them.
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>>23806589
Anon what the fuck.
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>>23806452

>tfw when I have Incredible Cross sections and The Coolest Cross Sections Ever on my bookshelf right now

Stephen Biesty is a god among illustrators. I based all my doodles as a kid around his style. All that activity, all those cool goings-on in the background, the man's a genius.
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>>23806912
>being this pussy whipped
Git.
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>>23807116
>>23807152
Protip:being prepper fags isnt something any normal people do. Might what to change ypur terminology.
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>>23807393
>gb2/pol/. srsly, you're a moron if you think you're correct.

you're a fucking moron if you're saying natural selection doesn't exist just because we live in an industrial society

Seriously, dog shit stupid you are.

You're coming across like those retards that think survival of the fittest literally means survival of the biggest and strongest
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>>23807265
PRobably not much different then any other decent sushi fucking place. Total fagbag I hate scumbags like this guy wish his family had the bombed dropped on them.
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>>23806332

It's not. You are lacking proteins and fats and fibers. Hardtack + vacuum pemmican + fruit leather + lots of water = a diet that won't clog your intestines and keep you alive.

Or some other source, such as, idk, vegetable oil and dehydrated eggs? The possibilities are endless!
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>>23806937
>>23807584
Not him, but bugs are just protein. Just make sure you cook it right to destroy all the bacteria from their shit.
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>>23806780
He said 19th century British sailors were Scurvy masters after Cook got them on the Lime wagon in the 18th century
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>170 replies
>only 3 mention pemmican
Have fun with hyponutrition, tacfags!
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>>23807759
fuck it, just native food in general. Pemmican is the go-to trail food, but pacific tribes style smoked & dried fish and algonquin tannin tea are all winners.

That's innawoods for you.
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>>23807219
Not using potato as a carb
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>>23807429
Is it safe? That would be pretty fucking handy when SHTF.
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>>23808139
Well, like any abortifacient that causes miscarriage, it can and probably will be painful. It is inherently dangerous to the woman, because of potential bleeding issues but generally is safe, if painful.
Like all natural abortifacients, its result vary. Some it will work on, some it may not. It is not a sure fire method.
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>>23806452
>most powerful navy in the world

>implying it wasnt America's at the time too

britbong faggots need to leave
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>I had that book AND the interactive PC version way back
>also had the book with the cross-section tanks

Thanks for reminding me
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>>23806452
Pretty sure my grandpa gave me a copy of this as a kid
Time to get a copy for the small cousins.
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