Quietest gun?

>>23398435
De lisle carbine

Either a De Lisle or a Welrod

>>23398435

Are we confined to pistols? I own several silencers and the quietest by far is a bolt action 22 firing subsonic rounds. It sounds like a book closing.

>>23398435
De Lisle Carbine

>>23398435
>have a great balance of accuracy, firepower, range, reliability
AS VAL, VSS Vintorez, maybe even an AR15 in .300 Blackout

>>23398435
supressed ruger mk 3 with subsonic rounds

OP here,

>>23398463
>Are we confined to pistols?

no.

>>23398476

Very well then. Savage Mk II FV-SR with an AAC Prodigy firing CCI standard 22 LR ammunition. I've never heard a quieter gun.

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>>23398446
>>23398458
>>23398466
>De Lisle Carbine

If they were so quiet then why were only 129 of these guns built?

a blow gun

>>23398494
because they were for british commando units? replica's are being made all the time too man. fuck they even had the option to come with a velvet lined box to catch the spent brass.

how do you account for the sound of the shell ejecting and falling to the ground? The *tink tink* of the shells hitting the ground would be enough to give your position away

>>23398585
See

>>23398568
>they even had the option to come with a velvet lined box to catch the spent brass.

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how does my gunfu compare to this carbine you speak of?

>>23398601
yeah sry I didnt see that message while I was posting that. Can you get generic velvet boxes like that for catching the brass from more common types of silenced automatics? And are there any kind of kits you can get to modify your gun's action to make it quieter?

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Whats wrong with the silenced ammo-types, like the bullets fired by the PSS pistol? Why did no one ever end up using those?

What about big-bore air rifles? Are they much louder than a suppressed 22?

Quietest gun I have seen was a professional Integral job ( not sure which company ) on a 10/22. With subsonic ammo it was pretty much just the sound of the action and the impact of the bullet.

Same guy had a registered full auto ar with a ciner 22 upper and internal suppressor. It was not as quiet, but still pretty much like the movies.

I shot a bunch of supressed subguns too and that was. Well. Kinda loud.

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>>23398435
>have nagant revolver
>kind of want to make it suppressed for sneeki breeki
>sell it because dating girl
>it was a 1927 Tula anyway, couldn't thread that one
>now want to get one again to make it sneeki breeki
>realize MN is anti-suppressor
>my state wont let me sneeki breeki

>>23398735
I keep hearing that we're "5 years out" from getting suppressors whatever in the hell that means.

>>23398682

Because every time you pull the trigger, you create a tiny bomb. That's a thin brass casing holding gases at impossible pressures.

>>23398746
It means guns are acceptable enough in MN that if you guys start the process to legalize them today you'll be finished in about 5 years without any major issues coming up.

>>23398682
Because people prefer bullets that can kill.

>>23398746
It's damage control for people who genuinely believe that our rights are not being eroded away slowly.

>>23398709
Yes. It is a different sound. No crack because it is subsonic. More like the sound of a silenced .45 pistol.

my 16" 300BLK AAC rem700 with a specwar and 220grn cast bullets is very quite.

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>>23398709
in my experience, all types of air rifles tend to make a loud snap when they are fired

Though I have never seen an air rifle that was designed to be extra quiet. I guess they are considered "silent" enough already

the Girandoni Air Rifle was only as loud as a modern big bore air rifle, and could fire rifled minie balls at lethal velocities up to 30 times before needing more air. And this was in 1778, when everyone else was using shitty black-powder unrifled muskets that took a minute to reload.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_Air_Rifle

>>23398435
Is the handnugget supersonic?

.45 1911

>>23398435
a supressed 1 shot gun would be pretty cilent

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>>23398777
>Because people prefer bullets that can kill.
Nigger please.

A 28" .22 rifle with a suppressor firing Super Colibris

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bury the muzzle into your targets back and thumb the trigger, designed to assasinate targets in a crowd.

worn on a piece of bungee cord up your sleeve so once used you let go of the gun it disappears up your sleeve.

>>23398671
>Can you get generic velvet boxes like that for catching the brass from more common types of silenced automatics?
There are brass catchers on the market. I don't know about velvet lined though.
>And are there any kind of kits you can get to modify your gun's action to make it quieter?
I've only seen one before. JP Silent Captured Recoil spring for AR-15s.

>>23398682
Nothing wrong with but we don't hear about it much because it's KGB equipment. It's hard enough finding information about American agencies.

>>23399414
You'd think with the dissolution of the Berlin Wall that there would have been some surplus sent to the states.

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>>23399195
I want a revolver like the GRAD .22 knifegun. Just a 1-handed thumb-press revolver all packed into a suppressor.

>>23398435
Suppressed 10/22 firing CB caps.

>>23398494
Because they didn't think they needed more than that for special forces units?

>>23398682
Expensive and difficult to make.
Low power and range.
ATF has ruled that silenced cartridges are legally silencers themselves, so each and every one cartridge would require it's individual registration and tax stamp, like Destructive Device munitions.

>>23399686
>Expensive and difficult to make.
Lol what, it's soviet gun. Cartridge is AK's 7.62x39 case with sealing cap and gas as proppelant.
>Low power and range.
Wrong. It is accurate as 9mm pistoles at 25 meters. Also at this distance full steel bullet penetrates 2mm of steel. I don't know how it works at farther distances, but why you need engage enemy with a pistol at 50 meters, especially when you are KGB agent or operator of special force unit.
Don't forget it is special purpose weapon, very light and compact, don't need silencer and has minimal chanse of malfunction unlike standart pistoles with underpowered cartridges for shooting with silencer.

>>23398435
>all these faggots who think they know shit

AAI QSPR or .22 bolt action SBR with a fuckhueg internal suppressor firing subsonic loads.

>so much disinfo and downright wrong info in this thread
>"lolololol delisle is quietest lolol"
>lolololool VSS is quietest

Your nocan is showing, /k/.

>>23398585
Not if you're on softer ground

>>23398585
That isn't a priority when the gun, even suppressed, makes at least 85dB (which is the best you can get with a .22 btw).

Also for most applications it is better to use supersonic ammo as it makes it harder for the opponent to pinpoint your location even though it makes a nice 140dB sound.

>>23400656
Seriously. How can anyone think anything other than a .22lr is the quietist caliber with a suppressor and a good load and a bolt action

>>23398494
bolt action 44 mag/spc with low power loads going through a can on the end is about as close to movie quiet as someone can get for under $1K.
>>23398494
Stens were much more accessible and affordable while doing the same job.

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>>23400540
>AAI QSPR
Neat, haven't heard of this before. It's like the SP-4 ammo.

>>23398735
>sneeki breeki

10/10

>>23400656
>VSS is quietest
Nobody said this, dumbass. The only person who mentioned the VSS specifically quoted OP's post about
>have a great balance of accuracy, firepower, range, reliability

The DeLisle suffers from being a 45 caliber gun, as such it's stuck around 120-125dB.
You can push a 300blk semiauto to 117-121dB if you wet the can and shoot subsonics (spoilers, don't shoot supers wet).
A .22lr bolt gun with a reputable can, wet, will easily be in the teens, and if you toss in some bullshit like aguila you won't hear fucking anything. Mostly because those don't use powder, but still. Might get a baffle strike on those, who knows.

>>23398435
>I've heard that silenced semi-auto handguns are, in truth, actually quite loud (because of the sound of the action as it is cycling the rounds).

If its striker fired you can just put your thumb or palm of your off hand behind the slide. This will actually give a nastier contact wound since the gas used to cycle the action is instead vented out the muzzle.

>>23398682
They were anemic and inaccurate as shit, only good for basically arms length assassinations. Also they were still fairly loud, like 125dB IIRC.

>>23398435
>What is the quietest, sneakiest gun to fire?
that Vet gun they used to put down ravenous dogs.

>Also, what is the *best* silenced-firearm, in your opinion?
HK Mk.23

>>23398489
it could be quieter if you shot some quiet .22 from it, though the rounds lethality might come into question.

>>23400917
don't do this, it creates mustard gas

>>23400893
Lol no. DeLisle is nowhere near 120dB. Just look up videos of it in action.

>>23398435

ruger mk. III in .22 short with a suppressor

>>23400980
The sound on the videos is not verry good.

It peaks around 120 easily. Would be quieter in 9mm and even quieter in .22

>>23398735
>buy 6 mosins, roll of duct tape, and a hack saw
>???
>Profit

>>23400980
>Just look up videos of it in action
Wanna know how I know you don't know?

>>23399686
if the ATF ruled that wouldn't that include nagant ammo?

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>>23400971

>>23401010
>>23401001
Um, no.

Subsequent official firing tests recorded the De Lisle produced 85.5 dB of noise when fired.[6] As a comparison, modern testing on a selection of handguns has shown that they produce 156 to 168 dB when firing without a suppressor, and 117 to 140 dB when firing with one fitted.[7] The de Lisle's quietness was found to be comparable to the British Welrod pistol.


>Subsequent official firing tests recorded the De Lisle produced 85.5 dB of noise when fired.[6]

>>23401056
Nagant ammo isn't silenced you tard.
Just because the brass envelops the bullet doesn't make it so.

>>23400971
wut

>>23401064
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA IT'S THIS RETARD AGAIN
Hey, kid, look up that report. See if you can find how loud they rated the 9mm at.
Spoilers, it was hearing safe :-)

Modern equipment has rated the delisle at 120-125, varying on ammo used. I suggest you do more research next time.

>>23401056
They aren't silenced they're sealed to trap gas and increase velocity. Works with the nagant design.

>>23401064
I would reeeeeaaally like to see how they tested that

>never even reached 89dB with a .22 boltgun and toptier cans

>>23401098
With old and insufficient equipment.

>>23401086
Why would you be asperging over the 9mm when the .45 was the superior and fielded version?

>>23398746
GOCRA and others are working on it and they believe they'll have enough people on board and voting within 5 years to get them legalized

>>23398735
That's why you do what I do and make adapters for oil filters and say fug da bolis :DDDDD

It honestly depends on who you want to kill

>>23401098
>>23401106

Or a very effective supressor.

The primary feature of the De Lisle was its extremely effective suppressor, which made it very quiet in action. So quiet, in fact, that working the bolt to chamber the next round makes a louder noise than firing a round.[11]

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>>23401118
Confirmed for not actually reading the shit you cited.
Not a 9mm delisle, retard. Just a regular old 9mm sten. That rating is bunk, sorry to educate you.

>>23401118
Your fucking face when a subsonic 9x19 is ALWAYS quieter than a sunsonic .45 through a similar suppressor.
Why? Because fucking physics, that's why.

The remington sportmaster with .22 short in it. It sounds like ass someone dropped a plastic cup when you fire it.

>>23401168
Once again, no.

>>23401178
Your fucking face when you can load a 45 to max loads and still be subsonic while you have to load 9mm down

>>23401176
Regular old sten equipped with a silencer and subsonic 9mm

>>23401199
Your fucking face when 147grain 9x19 is perfectly good and usually subsonic by nature (as in not loaded down). Also it is audibly quieter because of the smaller volume of gasses and smaller bullet diameter.

>>23401228
Looks like you still haven't read it, sport.
They tested both a regular unsuppressed sten (125dB) and a suppressed sten (89dB).

I suppose you want to cite sten guns as the quietest semiauto ever invented now too, huh?

>>23401251
125 with subsonic ammo isn't even impressive. What us your point?

>>23401267
Is*

>>23401267
I don't know if you're just trolling now or just genuinely retarded.

>>23401281
This isn't a 4 inch barrel. A light subsonic load could hit 120. You don't know what they were shooting.

>>23398735
>living in MN
I had the exact same conundrum as you. Then I accidentally Arizona.

>>23399195
>worn on a piece of bungee cord up your sleeve so once used you let go of the gun it disappears up your sleeve.
That's actualy quite brilliant

>>23401199
147gr nigga

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>>23401343
>A light subsonic load could hit 120
Benefit of the doubt revoked, you are genuinely retarded.

>>23401131
reported to the ATF

>>23401410
Imagine this: a sort of weapon where compressed gas, perhaps in a cylinder, rapidly pushed a stout blade out, and this blade would be attached to a spring to pull it back in once the system is opened to outside pressure. The whole system of blade and gas chamber would be inside of another gas cylinder, with most of the gas evacuated. This evacuated chamber would serve in lowering recoil. There could be a mechanism which both compressed and evacuated both chambers, allowing it to be hand-charged.

>>23401617
Imagine a mechanism that ran off of ATP, in which a blade could be thrusted and withdrawn completely silently...

>>23401617
so essentially an auto-stabbing knife

>>23401791
Yes, but hand-charged. A mechanical, pneumatic one as such shouldn't be especially complex and should be fairly reliable.

>>23401617
We ass creed now

Seeing as it hasn't been posted yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsUALdGog4U

For anyone who doesn't know, the decibel scale is logarithmic. Halving the sound pressure decreases the dB level by 3 dB. Doubling it increases by 3 dB. Doubling the distance from the source is a 6 dB change.