Raptor killer.

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>>23394053

>>23394053
The thing couldn't even kill the SR-71, the thing it was more or less designed to kill.

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>>23394053
>What you should have posted
Mig 31BM.
Or hell just post an Su-35 with the long range Vympel R77s.

>>23394053
I find these types of aircraft so aestheticly pleasing.

>>23394089

The 25 is combat proven in the Gulf.

>takes out F/A-18
>kills a bunch of F-111s
>runs away 6 from F-15Cs, they try to chase but 2slow

>>23394096
>kills a bunch of F-111s
So things that never happened.

>>23394096
I know about the R-60 and F-18 love session, but the F-111s? Bullshit

>>23394100

Word. My bad. Was the MIG-23.

>>23394053
This is the exact kind of thing the F-22 was designed to kill.

>>23394113
Still never happened.

>>23394122

MIG-23s killing F-111s? Google is your friend I guess. Gulf War, as mentioned earlier.

>>23394128
>"Iraqi MiG-23s were reported to have shot down one to two F-16Cs, one Tornado and damaged two F-111s, which later were written off. All victories were scored by the ML variants.[39][40][41] The United States stated that the losses of the F-16Cs were caused by SA-6 and SA-3 surface-to-air missiles rather than enemy aircraft.[42]"

Yep...sure did. It must be hard to get the facts right in wars that happened before you were born

>>23394139
>damaged two F-111s, which later were written off

Just a mobility kill, right?

>>23394128
One F-111 crashed itself into the desert floor while claiming it was under attack by an enemy aircraft. But it was an F1 that was supposedly attacking, and it wasn't actually there.

>>23394066
[spoiler] ;-; [/spoiler]

>>23394142
More likely it wasn't economical to repair them, given the USAF was beginning to phase out the F-111. The RAAF rocked god-tier F-111s up til only a few years ago.

Either way, "Herp derp totally owned a bunch of F-111s" is bullshit

>>23394142
Go ahead and show the records of these written off F-111s.

>>23394156

Ok ;_;

>Iraqi claims
Jesus, do people actually take those seriously? And before you accuse me of just defending America, go look at Iraqi claims against Iran, or for a similar Arab air force, Syrian claims against Israel. They have the same relationship with reality as a Hollywood movie with the tag "based on a true story."

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>>23394066
Is there anything the Abrams can't kill?

>inb4 Americas obesity problem

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>>23394222

>>23394222
America's debt problem.

>>23394156

out of curiosity, is the RAAF running on obsolete tech?
like, if we were to engage in air-air combat, how fucked/unfucked would we be, against whoever?

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>>23394235
>mi28
>implying Abrams just doesn't drive up and kill the crew before they can take off, using all of Russias vodka supply as a fuel

>>23394245
>shell the banks

Abrams:3
Atheists:0
Russians:0
Christians:0
T-90:ammo rack

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>>23394053
how many raptors has it killed?

>>23394215

West confirmed...

>>23394476

Just use your head. Raptor flies at Mach 2.2 max, MIG-25 does Mach 2.8, 3.2 if it really wants to. F-15Cs (dedicated fighter variant) with Mach 2.5 couldn't even catch it.

MIG-25 can see raptor with massive radar, spam it, and fly away like it ain't no thang.

>>23394476
None, because all the raptors are hiding.

>>23394494
ISIS has MiG 25s in Syria and Iraqi pilots training them.

The US is flying F-22s as escorts for F/A-18s.

If there's the slightest nugget of truth in that, we'll soon find out.
If you're

>>23394516

I thought they had MIG-21s. MIG-21s are only Russiand 2nd gens, so they can deal with F/A-18s, but not necessarily the raptors.

>>23394524
>so they can deal with F/A-18s
Slavaboos get worse all the time.

>>23394540
In large numbers. But alone, no. That is the advantage of the Mig-21, there are so fucking many of them.

>>23394540
>>23394563

Yea, I guess it really depends. Untrained pilot in MIG-21 vs US ace and it might go to F/A-18.

I mean the MIG-21 outruns and outclimbs it, plus ATOLL is still better than AIM-9X, but it's close.

>>23394575
>Yea, I guess it really depends. Untrained pilot in MIG-21 vs US ace and it might go to F/A-18.
Try the real fucking world, where the result was dead MiG-21s.

>>23394575
>ATOLL is still better than AIM-9X
Can someone seriously explain why shitposting results in zero bans?

>>23394589

I eagerly await your source on Russian pilots flying a MIG-21 being taken out by an F/A-18.

>>23394597

In the mod's defense, he does ban me occasionally. Try reporting me for shitposting brah. Mite b cool.

Anyway, both missiles are Mach 2.5 and everyone knows Russian missiles turn hard. At least the F-4s in Vietnam did.

>>23394575
My point is that the F/A-18 would win against one Mig-21 but that Mig-21s are infinitely replacable.

>>23394613

Indeed.

>>23394613
>>23394623

Well, indeed on infinitely replaceable. Not so sure about it losing to anything short of a raptor or an F-15C, assuming F-15C and Raptor rely on extended range AMRAAM and fly mostly clean.

>>23394598
Because Russian pilots had a so much better record in the MiG-21 than Arabs flying against Israel.

>>23394598
You know full well US and Russian pilots have never flown against each other, but here's the planes against each other.

http://wardocumentaryfilms.com/combat-clips/fa-18-hornet-dogfight-kill-mig-21/

>>23394613
Right, because ISIS has all those mig factories churning them out.

>>23394643

haha

>muh Ramon
>muh aces
>muh rookie Russians
>muh risking all squadron leaders
>muh ambush

>>23394646

Anon, you and your links make me feel bad. I am just fucking around.

>>23394651
Its the fucking AK of planes. You can pick them up for 10 bucks and a camel from uncle hakim. Jeez. It's not like i said anything about isis anyway.

>>23394665
So Russian pilots aren't good enough for Russian aircraft. Maybe they should have hired some Israelis so the MiG-21 would finally have pilots that could handle it.

>>23394677
>Russian pilots aren't good
That really is all you needed to say.

>>23394677

lol, still bitter about those Shilkas USSR gave to Egypt?

Anyway, seriously, read about the operation you are referencing. Bunch of cadets out of school vs SQUADRON LEADER ACES, in an ambush, while outnumbering the Russians (yes, it was 24 or something Russian planes, but most of them never got there, and small groups were engaged).

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>>23394066
That reminds me of the time I shot down an SU-35BM with an abrams in BF3.

Bitches don't know about my guided shell.

>>23394696
>Bunch of cadets out of school
Every Soviet pilot shot down was a captain.

>>23394714

And wasn't involved in a single air-to-air battle before that. Israel literally sent the best they had.

>>23394748
>They only won because of superior tactics, training and doctrine! Their aircraft weren't to blame.

>>23394827

that's a perfectly reasonable scenario.

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Why did they do this

>>23394990
Poor White Swan ;_;

>>23394990
The plane was a Russian hostage, and the men in the picture are Chechen.

>>23394646
>You know full well US and Russian pilots have never flown against each other

what is korea

>>23394476
None because Raptors are not real

>>23394053
Yeah until the wings breaks of at mach 3

>>23394494
You know that point when you see a poster go full retard?

>MIG-25 can see raptor

That was your point.

>>23394149
It was a monkey model!!!

We clearly gave a monkey model to that pilot.

Stop basing your self esteem on equipment, please. Love them or hate them, the Russians built some amazing shit.

>>23394575
How do US pilots get ace if they only bomb mud huts?

>>23395120
...You do realize the F1 is a French built aircraft right?

>>23395137
Sources say otherwise and it was confirmed by the US. So...your F1 theory is also a monkey model.

>>23395142
Then I'm sure you can post this confirmation.

>>23394215
bah, I bet you don't believe that an iraqi farmer shot down an apache with his czech karbine either.

>>23395160
The farmer didnt beloved it

>>23394089
More like long range A-50. Up to 300 km till the target.

>>23395321
Or even KC-172(AAM-L)

>>23394321
Its got brand new Super hornets, and the regular hornets were still delivered in 84-90, so they arnt that old as far as aircraft go.

As an example the Tornado is just being retired and was introduced 5 years before f-18 came to australia, so you could presume they are at the end of life, but still effective

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>>23394494
>MIG-25 does Mach 2.8, 3.2 if it really wants to

But it doesnt want to
lol
Engine would melt at Mach 2,8 if it maintained that speed more than few minutes

>>23394706
You need guided shells to shoot down planes? Pleb. You have to practive some more, and then you can "easily" shoot them down with the cannon.

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>>23394053
OP, you silly fag. You posted the wrong picture.

This. Is the raptor killer.

>>23394089
Pretty this. Mig-31BM is integrated into network with ground radars and AWACS planes. L-band ground radars guide Mig-31 to best shooting point (automatically, btw), plane or awacs radar give guidance to missile. Pilot just push the button. Of course in 1v1 f-22 is superior. But MIg-31BM never fly alone

>>23395872
In fact he will not. First parts to melt is cockpit and nose cone. Because they are not from metal.

>>23396366
You do realize the F-22 flies with support? Of course you do.

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>not posting the real raptor killer

>>23395915
also killed by raptors

SU-47 > F-22

>>23394222
based tank

>>23394066

MiG-25 stronk. You can't ramp a main battle tank off of any other plane.

>>23394372
takes me back to bf3

>>23397188
Ace Combat pls go

>>23397561
no
c:

>>23394222
>Is there anything the Abrams can't kill?

So far it hasn't been completely successiful in killing it's own supply chain. Before APU there were doing better.

>>23394086
You mean the XB-70

>>23394665
G-guise, I was only pretending to be a faggot, haha super funni

>>23396378
>Nose cone melts
>this kills the pilot

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Why are Russian planes so ugly and poorly-built, /k/? I mean, look at this thing! It's fresh of the factory floor, and subject to regular maintenance! I don't even know if it can fly!

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And don't even get me started on Russia's stealth fighter, it looks like a toy!

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Meanwhile, they're putting out "state of the art" fighters that look like this

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And America's about to retire things like these on account of their being too outdated. What's wrong with Russia, /k/?

>>23394646
US & Russian (Soviet) pilots faced off in both Korea & Vietnam.