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Why isn't there more media coverage of people hunting and killing IS faggots?

Pic related, Iraqui christian after hunting 2 snackbars.
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they dont look like they got their 72 virgins
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Because the news doesn't report on positive actions. Fear brings views.
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>>23305190
That guy looks fucking cool.
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Step 1: marry 7 year old girl
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Step 2: well maybe not
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>>23305190
could somebody ID the gun in the chest holster?

is that a makarov?
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>>23305190
Thanks based Iraq Santa!
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>>23305273
looks like it
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>>23305190
>>23305335
SOUTH PARK WAS RIGHT!!!
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>>23305232
>>23305235

Top kek
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>>23305190
dude looks like a boss
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>>23305423
I've seen some shit on the internet but this just makes me depressed
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>>23305232
>>23305235
they never got married she was upset because she fucked up her lines, it was in the media a few days ago
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>>23305190
Badass, but why the handcuffs? I noticed this a bunch with FSA "squad leaders" also carrying them. Seems a bit counter-productive, if you get what I mean.
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>>23305235
>>23305190
>even the "good guys" are like this
Why did we liberate these barbarians again?
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>>23305483
To be fair we did release a video of one of us pissing on a corpse, so we can't look too far down on them
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>>23305487
Bombing the shit out of a country and installing a puppet regime is not a liberation.

Or did you heard anything about the ISIS when Saddam was in charge?
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>>23305235
Delicious
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>>23305483
>liberate

The US haven't liberated anyone in a very long time.
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>>23305423
Man has been doing this type of thing to each other for millenia. I am not justifying it in anyway, i think the hadji should cook for it but we have hundreds of burial mounds all across europe from mass executions of one sort or another. Vikings, goths, saxons blah blah, asia was no different. Native americans crossed huge stretches of land to wage war with each other. I once read(in a book) of an Iroquois tribe going as far west as the plains to fight the Cherokee indians. We are a fucked up people.

God have mercy on us all.
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>>23305530
Ain't it beautiful how humanity is still nearly the same bunch of animals as it was many thousand years ago just with more advanced technology?

Even the philosophy barely changes behind the killing.
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>>23305577
the means change the ends do not
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>>23305190

Is it wrong that I think ISIS has some qts?
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>>23305190
I did not know Santa Claus OPERATED this hard.
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>>23305577
Well the killing will always be needed in one way or another
We develop different philosophies/religions that govern our way of life.
And when two of those come into contact who's dogma insists that they fight, then we fight.
One day maybe we'll build religions and schools of thought that can all coexist.

I just take solace that the majority of humans live their lives peacefully and that its just a small group of violent pricks that make trouble for everyone.

>>23305190
God those guys are awesome, props to the older guy with the makarov strapped to his chest
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>>23305530
Dont even get me started on africa or south america,
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>>23305190
lol santa has joined the fight, everything will be all right now :)
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>>23305235
Sometimes when the "good guys" have their backs to the wall

They have no option to play dirty.

Infact, i feel that few enemies in the history of man have deserved to be treated as such.
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>>23305657
its just a tis for tat thing that escalates
it starts with small things
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>>23305190
Looks like Christmas came early to Kurdistan this year.
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>>23305530
God isn't merciful

It's very likely that God does not like us

I bet God likes watching us fight, though
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>>23305530
\Whatever god there is left this place long ago.
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>>23305676
Goddamn it carlos.
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>>23305673
nope.

An enemy as brutal and vile as IS can only be treated with equal brutality. They are not worthy of civilized combat. They are not worthy to be treated as warriors.

No fucking quarter must be given. No mercy shown. Wipe them off the face of the earth and hang their naked bodies up for the public to see.

Bill their families for the munitions you expended in removing them.

Destroy them and then wipe them from history, never to be mentioned or remembered again.

Repay every bit of their brutality, with interest.

>INB4 Edge
>I just really hate them
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>>23305724
I like you.
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>>23305724
This nigger right here for president.
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>>23305724
This reminds me of the Locust Queen from Gears of War.

When you played as her in mutiplayer she'd scream "NO QUARTER" at the beginning of every match. Shit was cool.
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>>23305724
>hang their naked bodies up for the public to see
>never to be mentioned or remembered again
These conflict.
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>>23305724
Vote Anon 2016
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>>23305777
t'was simply the most degrading thing i could think of
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>>23305677
Well if you believe in the same God as Christians/Jews/Muslims, he sent the angel of death to kill the first born chilluns in Egypt, God is just like us.
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>>23305724
The best way to fight a hate group like IS is to convert them. Show the IS thugs you've captured, especially the young and impressionable ones, that you're a human, too, and not some evil "other" who came from a distant land to destroy everything you hold dear. Eventually, just talking to them humanizes yourself to them to the point where the ones worth saving will give up the hate, and the ones not worth saving can just rot.

Don't try to convert the leaders, though; it's all about power for them.
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>>23305190
Well fuck me, Santa is real and he's operator as fuck. IS is screwed.
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>>23305724
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>>23305783
ok
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>>23305724
I don't think that is the best. It will just further polarize the sides from each other. I bet there are a lot of fighers in ISIS that when given a choice will not continue the fight.
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>>23305530
>>23305677
>>23305697

It's almost funny but I actually attribute my being a non-believer from my schools history class, learning about all the fucked up shit that people did to each other, all the things that just occurred naturally even...if there is something like a God, he sure doesn't give a damn about you or me.
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>>23305791
no

these are not ideological fighters whom can be reasoned with

these are zelots and they must be eviscerated
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>>23305797
An image would help.
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>>23305825
i am south african

it worked for us very well in Angola

The only way to fight terror is with terror.

I would agree with you if this were any other group. But not IS.
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>>23305828
He doesnt want puppets, he gave us free will for a reason. He doesnt cause all this shit, he allows it because otherwise he would just be playing with a model train set.
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>>23305791
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"We in the west" have, especially when it comes to war, moral standards that simply aren't adequate to our time and our asymetrical wars anymore.


We are supposed to treat EVERY enemy humanely, because the nazis were perceived as treating their enemies inhumane (not to say they didn't take POWs and treat them fairly, but this is about perception).

We are supposed to only moderately and by proxy help these people that are being slaughtered because anything drastic such as rescuing them (we'd call it a "military intervention"). That's why we only train them and send equipment while our politicians live out their excessive desire for political action by giving into the media fear mongering.
Why? Because we're still thinking cold war politics: we don't want to offend Russia and China by taking drastic steps and deploying a military presence on their side of the globe.
Russia doesn't intervene because the world would interpret it as more Ukraine-style imperialism. China doesn't intervene for the same reasons, also they don't want to attract the attention of those shitbags to their country.

We aren't supposed to round up captured ISIS fighters and execute them on live television because that would be brutal and bloody. It would reveal that a soldier with a gun can do the same to terrorist than what they do with their guns to civilians. And that's the only effective, but also very bloody way to save millions of civilians in Syria, Iraq, Mali or everywhere else from these shithead criminals.
And I don't want to see real blood 5 minutes or 2 pages away from my next iphone ad.
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>>23305724

good goy
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>>23305859
>he
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>>23305830
That's what the Brits said about the IRA

Then they gutted the IRA by doing exactly what I said.

They killed it with kindness, quite literally
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Why doesn't every western intelligence agency just send people to syria, posing as foreign converts and infiltrating ISIS?
They could sabotage them from the inside and upload fucking gopro videos on youtube.
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>>23305923
I would not volunteer for that job
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>>23305530
>anon references God in passing
annnd there goes the thread.

>>23305895
know how i know God is a male figure? He's left us the fuck alone for more than 5 minutes.
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>>23305953
most people wouldnt, but most people don't apply for intelligence work, military careers or astronaut careers either.
theres people for every kind of job.
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>>23305791
They shouldn't be killed...

Only mortally wounded, maimed, and left to rot in pig dens. If the faggot soldiers don't have the guts to do that, call me. I'll do it with pleasure.
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Abandon thread.
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>>23305859

Dude my fedora is tipping so hard right now, it's hard to keep it on.

Not trying to have some religious debate cause they are all always shit, I just can't believe even if I wanted to haha.

I'm gonna abandon thread before it gets even more shit.
best of luck anons.
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>>23306018
yeah, im not trying to get into it either. i have avoided religion on the internet since like 2004.
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>>23305232
>she messed up her Quranic verse
>is crying with mujahidbro comforting her
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>>23306059
I didn't say a single thing about religion, though...
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>>23305724
>>23305736
>>23305763
>>23305777
>>23305781
Stop samefagging edgemaster
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ITT edgemasters from leddit
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>>23305906

Those are British whites fighting other British whites of a slightly different religious persuasion.

This is first-world Christian (largely) whites fighting third-world brown people who are violently and irredeemably Islamic. There's too much of a gap.
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>>23305828
As this poster said here: >>23305786, God in his righteousness is no different, he truly created mankind in his own image.

>>23306077
Woops, quoted the wrong post, meant to quote the one above yours. Third time's a charm.
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>>23306098
Ok sorry.
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>>23305190
>Christians hunting non christians.
>Oh boy here we go again.jog
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>>23306134
>implying its hard to post on seperate devices stop trying
>>23306111
Trips for truth
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>>23306135
>isis slaughters and displaces hundreds if not thousands of christians and muslims
>a couple christians defend themselves from this, albeit on a very small scale
UGH FUCKING CHRISTIANS ALWAYS CRUSADING THEY SHOULD BE ERADICATED!
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>>23306147
>implying anyone would make that much of an effort.
Just accept the fact that there are bound to be people agreeing with someone else's opinion.
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>>23306154
>implying anyone would make that much of an effort.
You're on 4chan kid
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>>23306159
Alright chief.
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>>23306135
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>>23305501
No, we heard shit about Saddam gassing the Kurds. But guise at least an organization that didn't exist when Saddam was around wasn't killing them!
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>>23305190
Needs a caption. "I don't always remove kebab..." cant figure out a punchline for it though.
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>>23306135
God wills it!
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>>23306135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV3PhvCf_Jg
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>implying you'll ever go kebap hunting with santa the ISIS hunta
>implying you wouldnt wait for him to ride his magical sand sled across the desert night sky, pulled by magical camels and loaded with 2 sacks full of ammo and rifles

WHY DOES MY LIFE HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS
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>>23306298
>mass murder simulator 2015
holy shit the media is gonna hava field day with that one...
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>>23306325
Yeah you should make a thread about it!
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>>23305190
>Iraqui christian

He's syrian, look at the flags, two green stars = Syria, three green stars = Iraq
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>>23305923
Do you really think the CIA, MI6 or the DGSE don't have informants inside IS?
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>>23306236
But when I do, I prefer dos hadjis
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>>23306623
>"I don't always remove kebab, but when I do, I remove Dos Hadjis"

Yeeeessssssss
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>>23306807
someone was on the naughty list this year.
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>>23306807
dude in the back looks blazed as fuck
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>>23305724
This man.......this man fights for freedom.
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>>23305587

I think you are into necrofilia. It's about as bad as islam, so go fuck yourself.
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>>23306404
Not the guy you are responding too, but everyone likes money.
A lot of people will do a lot of thing for a lot of money.
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>>23306807
the guy in the back needs to be an elf
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>>23305724
>with interest.
nah. becasue then we'd be the new ISIS. I say we stop just short of their brutality, that way we'd end up being the lesser of two evils.
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>>23305724
I've seen horrors... horrors that you've seen. But you have no right to call me a murderer. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do that... but you have no right to judge me. It's impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror... Horror has a face... and you must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terror are your friends. If they are not, then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies! I remember when I was with Special Forces... seems a thousand centuries ago. We went into a camp to inoculate some children. We left the camp after we had inoculated the children for polio, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went back there, and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried, I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out; I didn't know what I wanted to do! And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it... I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought, my God... the genius of that! The genius! The will to do that! Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we, because they could stand that these were not monsters, these were men... trained cadres. These men who fought with their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with love... but they had the strength... the strength... to do that. If I had ten divisions of those men, our troubles here would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are moral... and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling... without passion... without judgment... without judgment! Because it's judgment that defeats us.
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>>23305486
>30,000 troops per deployment
>13 years of deployments, 2 countries at one for may years
one squad of Marines gets dirty and yuo use it as a false equivelancy
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>>23305190
Alhamdulillah based Iraqi Santa. Also
...are those dick grips I see peeking out?
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>>23305724
Once we destroy ISIS and wipe them from history, and do all the other brutal shit you're suggesting, how long till another group comes along and starts doing the same damn shit?
That whole region of the world is always SSDD.
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>>23305877
>implying Shekelland won't be next
The Kingdom of Jerusalem must be reestablished in our lifetimes.
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>>23305828
>tips fedora
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>>23306018
>gonna abandon thread before it gets even more shit
should have left your /pol/ faggotry in /pol/ to begin with.
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>>23305190
So which one of you asked santa for two dead arabs ?
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>>23306128
>brittish
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>>23305969
Ok thats actually a pretty good reason
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>>23306098
no fuck you
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>>23305969
lel
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>>23305486
Go to bed saiga
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>>23305791
Its been shown throughout history that rehabilitation and turning cheek doesn't really work against religious zealots.
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>>23306807
wait...it that the oxyclean guy behind santa?
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>>23306807
make the guy in the back and elf and change the gun with a candy cane
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>>23307254
>Kingdom of Jerusalem
>what is the jewnited states of america
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>>23305981

Wow how edgy. Middle school must have let out early today
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>>23305190
Santa and young Sean Connery are playing in the sandbox?
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>>23305620
Humans will never be at peace, that's a liberal delusion at best.
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>>23305828
Or the gnostics are right and violence and death feeds the demiurge Yehova.
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>>23305724
>Bill their families for the munitions you expended in removing them.
My sides.
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>>23305190
Didn't know Santa was a merc, guess he's gotta pay for those presents some how.
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>>23305859
God didn't give us shit, it was the devil.
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>>23305724
Right on brother.

Purge the IS from our planet.
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>>23305219
He looks pretty interesting...

He doesn't always shoot firearms, but when he does its a Russian AKM.
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>>23305724

>wipe them from history, never to be mentioned or remembered again.

except 10 years after they're all dead, leftist college students will remake them as heroic freedom fighters and wear ISIS tshirts to protests
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>>23305724

I like you.


Now hear me out /k/... What's stopping the NATO members from sending each 10.000 soldiers down there, escort the innocent, mostly Christians and some Kurds... And then purge the shit out of Middle East. Fuck, there would be less evil in the world.

It could be so easy. Even the Russians and Chinese would participate, just give them Ukraine and HK.

Shit would be so cash and Muslims all around the world would learn for generations to come, that you don't fuck with the Western society.

There hasn't been any good from Islam, I just don't see it. Religion of peace my ass.
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>>23308807

They just need a good beating. Hippies.
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>>23308807

Someone has to remember that ISIS is entirely the creation of US/UK foreign policy.
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>>23305783
>tipping_increases.png
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>>23308838
>they, as a society, have no control over their reactions to wrongs, real or percieved.
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>>23306134
if you look closely the second, third and fifth were had (You) next to them, but your shop job was lazy
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>>23306736
>>23306623
>>23306236

sorry for stupid watermark
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>>23305620
>We develop different philosophies/religions that govern our way of life.
>And when two of those come into contact who's dogma insists that they fight, then we fight.
Daily reminder all wars are fought for power and ideologies are merely tools.
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>>23306807
>>23308240
500+ hours in paint
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>>23309049
Reddit gold material here
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>>23309049
Elf needs pointy ears. how could you make such an obvious oversight?
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>>23309126
>>23309126

He knows if you're been bad or good.
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>>23309156
10/10
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>>23305423
absolute subhuman filth
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>>23309179
That's better!
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>>23309156

You better not run
You better not hide
You better shoot back
I'm telling you why
Santa Claus is bombing your town
Santa Claus is bombing your town
Santa Claus is removing your town

CIA made him a list,
He'll shoot you twice;
Gonna find out who's naughty or nice.
Santa Claus is bombing your town

He sees you when you're kneeling
He knows when you're Haram
He knows that you've been bad not good
So kiss your ass goodby hakim-el-sh'kate

With little tin bombs and tiny caliber guns
Rooty toot toots he's gunning you down
Santa Claus is bombing your town

He sees you where your hiding
He knows when you're afraid
He knows that you just shit your self
So goodby now Abdul Muhammad Bah'kratet

You better be done
You're not gonna be around long
You better accept it
I'm telling you now
Santa Claus is bombing your town.
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>>23305724
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>>23306153
I didn't say or mean to imply that, I used to be christian and to be honest I'd do the same thing. But isn't religion all about not fighting and letting god take care of it?
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>>23309313
was meant for >>23309156
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>>23306298
I laughed harder than I should have
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>>23306135
Deus vult
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>>23305235
Hey.... He still got to fuck a 7yo
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>>23305483
oh what...

do you want pale white inbreds prancing around in tights, sipping tea, going on with gay phrases like "oh, but I do say..." while tickling each others assholes with rapiers?

this is war, this is how people die, and posting it like this is how you break enemy morale. god, it's like you're one of those people who bitches about how niggers fighting in packs is "honorless" after you get your ass beat...
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>>23305423
Waste of munition; those prisoners don't worth the 7.62 which can be better used to shoot Muricans.
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>>23305895
this gif is irritating to no end.

I mean really...what faggot goes through the effort of assembling 3-5 frames of animation that only convey 2 frames worth of movement.

I want his head on a pike...
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>>23309156
I don't know why I spent so long on this.
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>>23305190

The guy is Syrian, and there's no way to tell if he's Christian or otherwise.
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>>23305791

You're an idiot.

The people in the Middle East experience things much different than you. They stand on a lower step of the evolutionary ladder and their nervous systems are closer to the reptile brain.

tl;dr They only respond to fear and terror.

How do you think Saddam maintained the peace? Through sheer terror and death squads.

Sand niggers only understand violence. It's the way things are.
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>>23305724
Not sure if samefagging or daytime/k/
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>>23309612
Someone cap this
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>>23311343
Yep, it's daytime. >>23311361
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>>23305724
>tfw all of this
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>>23305190
whybis /k/ full of bleeding heart sjw's tonight?
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Because only muzzies can kill muzzies.
When Christians or Jews kill them they get stirred up like hornets.
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>>23311127
Jesus fucking christ

my sides
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>>23305724
i will follow you in the removal of kebab
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>mfw the ROE is shoot on sight
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>>23311510
I like this one better
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>>23305859
>He
>he
lol
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>>23311361

done
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>>23311270

>You better get out
>Better say goodbye
>Don't hang about
>I'll tell you why
>Santa Clause is taking you down

>He's making a list
>He's checking it twice
>He's going all out
>He ain't gonna be nice
>Santa Clause is taking you down

>You won't hear him creeping
>He moves like Solid Snake
>He'll CQC your whole jihad
>He eats kebab like cake

>Oooh you better watch out
>Don't be that guy
>Or you're gonna die
>Santa Clause is taking you down
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>>23311596
Yeah but mine is gayer
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>>23311666
Gayer than literally throwing a woman away.
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>>23308825
This is probably what the Romans would have done
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>>23311253
they probably did it to covey 「Aesthetic」
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>>23313004
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>>23305850
>south africa is a shithole full of inbred dutch-hicks and niggers.

>middle east is a land of ancient civilizations rich in history and passion... and oil
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>>23305423
Worst cha-cha line ever
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FUCK I LOVE THIS THREAD
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>>23305850
>lost to niggers
>worked for us very well

ok japie
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>>23305876
to put it simply, it's not our problem.

fuck them let the collapse come,

bring troops home from europe
close all oversea bases,

let china and japan fight go at each other, the US will pull out of korea if the chinese agree to get rid of kim and let korea-reunify.
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>>23313596
you son of a bitch
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>>23307087

Always remarkably stirring.
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>>23307142

>Only one squad of muhreens

Did you guys forget about that platoon from Georgia that was taking hadji ears and teeth and shit? I can't remember if it was Army or Nasty Girls.
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>>23305423
>ar15 too weak
>have to redo the job with glorious AK
sounds about right
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>>23306298
>edgy the hedgehog.

this game looks boring as fuck.. no rape?
you don't kill a perfectly lithe 20-something woman whome you have physical dominance over, you put her in chains and have her become your new wife.. or one of them anyway...
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>>23313715

go outside
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>>23305190
I want me my scalps!
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Treaties, rules of engagement, and public opinion have devalued the soldier to the point where it is a surprise he is able to perform in combat at all. War, as a contest, is by no means ethical. War is theft; one nation, coalition, or general entity uses superior force to gain land, resources, or submission. No matter if the instigator or the defender wins this contest, the transgression of an invasion has passed, and no small-scale attempts at rendering it politically correct will ever succeed. In fact, by placing the shackles of a moral on an army, we ensure that it will never achieve total victory. Those who wish to water down war into nothing more than a palatable news event that is defined by halfhearted protest and support, that will live on as no more than a paragraph in a teenager’s history book, neither understand or give credence to the reality of combat. Combat is dirty, brutal, and evil. As Tennyson wrote, there is nothing sweet or right about it. Political conventions and rulebooks thus achieve nothing at all in attempting to limit and dilute the realities of the battlefield; in fact, they ensure those who follow them will only know defeat. War will still be war, and ethics will decide its loser.
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>>23313755


This leaves each nation a choice of the moral high ground or the right to record history how it wishes. I am here to present the path to the second.

As Kierkegaard proposed a teleological suspension of the ethical in order to achieve total realization of the religious sphere, ethics must be suspended in warfare. However, this must start from the most singular factor in a fighting force, who will be the focus of this work: the individual warrior. The most effective fighting men in human history have been moral, yes, but outside of the battlefield. Each has been able to enact an operational suspension of the ethical. This is a disregard of societal, religious, or otherwise hindering morals when faced with combat. When shot at, the human brain has no choice but to believe that the entity from which the bullet came wishes it dead at all costs. The only logical reaction is to meet and exceed that dedication.
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>>23313776
The supersoldier, whether attacking a known enemy or being attacked by an unknown one, must act with a total and fervent devotion to eliminating the threat. Through methods of adrenaline or psychological dehumanization, he will only survive if he is to win this contest with primal echoes to an age before humanity existed. Every iota of his singular existence must act independently to ensure he does not fail human evolution in death. He must go into a tunnel vision that utilizes all of his skills and faults to kill, or be killed. As every single engagement of every single war is a living embodiment of Darwinian struggle, the supersoldier must temporarily disregard the morals of his age in devotion to the eternal process of combat. He must not worry about the death of innocents, about how others will view his actions, or about lofty concepts of honor. There are two outcomes for a man engaged in combat: victory or failure. These are life and death, determined by the soldier and his opponent, not by any civilian, politician, or god. The road to victory is simple: kill, survive, and complete. Individual survival is the only mechanism to successfully completing a mission, and in turn a larger objective. This can only be achieved through a total devotion to victory at all levels and a total disregard of the ethical.
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>>23313797
This is not to say that actions under the misnomer “war crime” are favorable and desirable; it is certainly best if there are no civilian casualties and minimum damage to infrastructure. At times, singular devotion to victory may include carpet bombing of a village. At other times, it may require a hearts and minds campaign with vaccinations and aid. Certainly, the noncombatants within a military force ought to do everything they can to ensure a battlefield is free of civilians or other sensitive factors. However, the dogs of war must be trained so that they are beyond matters of judgment when their handlers have let them slip.
I can guarantee that there is no revelry in a moral defeat. There is, however, in any type of victory. The only sure way to victory is an efficiency at the most basic level of a military, an efficiency allowing for total devotion to survival and completion of an objective. The ethics of a civilian world do not apply to the contest of war; by these ethics, all war is a crime.
If you do not wish for victory so much as to suspend ethics, you shall never know it.
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>>23305724

10/10 I agree with you
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>>23311215
>nigger pack attack
>not the single most honorless thing ever
pick one
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>>23313776
I hear US invented ISIS to threaten Saudis position, this perceived threat made the saudis pump more oil to buy more US equipment, thus forcing down the price of oil.
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>>23313949
That may be. I'm just presenting my thoughts on how to win a war.
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>>23305783

>t'was
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>>23305724
I wish it would be that simple, but repairing the fuck ups of colonialism is gonna take way more than military interventions. The monster is in the collective minds of the sunnis, whom have become alienated of the post-invasion iraq.
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>>23313004
HE'S SYRIAN! NOT IRAQI!
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>>23305791
>muh hearts and minds
Kill thr men, deport the woman and children over whatever border will take them, then settle the land yourself with whoever will go. Such is the way of man. War.

The only way there will be peace in the middle east is if we let the damn kikes replace the filthy kebab. Or the use of themonuclear weapons. Either or.
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>>23314529
>Such is the way of man. War.
>still believing this shit in 2014
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>>23313755
>>23313776
>>23313797
>>23313814

Source?

I'm an Eagle Scout about to drop out of college and enlist in the Navy, Marine Corp, or Army

OR

Continue in college with NROTC, apply for scholarship

OR

Apply directly for OCS with Navy or Marines

Would appreciate any advice.
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>>23314564
>all of world history, current events around the world, and our country currently at war means nothing
>muh 20 years post cold war of detachment for war says otherwise shitlord!
It's past your bedtime kiddo
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>>23314602

War is the way of the state and the ruling class. A cursory study of history shows that the vast majority of wars are instigated by a minority and benefit a minority, the majority being forced into fighting by threat of death.

But it's all too difficult for some angsty edgemeister with a violence fetish to understand.
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>>23314595

>That paper

Winner for me, anon. Pic related is mine
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>>23314646
Thats a nice one, I switch between this one.

I wish I had seen this in person.
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>>23311270
Beautiful
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>>23314695

Much sadness in that one.

>You will never haul carloads of war material with your favorite steam engine
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>>23305791
They came from our cultures. They do not want to "convert". If they did they wouldn't have left their western countries to fight.
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Wasn't there a south park episode about Santa going to Iraq to save Jesus? Oh wait
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>>23305190
now there's a guy who's living it the fuck up
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>>23309612
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9000 Hours in paint
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>>23305777
They will conflict until their bodies rot away.
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>>23314121
That is a word you know. Otherwise I don't know what you are getting at.
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>>23314595
No source besides myself. Just an intro to something I'm writing.

I would recommend staying in college with ROTC before joining. The entire premise of that text I sampled from is that an individual soldier ought to educate himself as much as possible. The better the cogs, the more efficient the machine.
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>>23305859
"He" could have made us immortal and impossible to feel pain. He could have made it so that we didn't have to eat or drink. He could have made it so that we would have nothing better to do than to learn and explore. He is responsible fore every single bad thing because he could have simply designed a universe that didn't suck so bad.

It is far more plausible that he doesn't exist and everything is just acting in accordance with the properties of matter and energy.

>hurr durr pain and suffering are necessary. Hurr durr making toys that he knew would torture and slaughter each other is moral and just.
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this thread
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>>23305530
My dog has are more chocolate on a dates 16 year old pageant princess on valentines day and she has never got sick once.
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>>23316034
You're wrong. I mean, you are right that he could have done all those things, but then we wouldn't be us. This is experience wouldn't be anything but a dream. No choice but prosperity is still no choice. We need choice.

And who knows man, maybe everyone gets their own sub universe within "the universe."
>stay with me now
So like, there's only really YOU in your universe right now. Everyone else is a mirror or projection of another actual real person in their own subverses. The experience you have are all real AND MUTUAL, just in a way you can quite keep a straight line too (I personally think it'd be in a way where you, at the end of your lives, all harmonize to one share consciousness and the one true like that was your own decision to be good or evil ultimately decided what you were). Also that'd mean that everyone, in their subverse had a fair shake at being good.

But anyway, I think you are entitled (within your subverses) a life long enough to do what you need and should do, and for you to truly make your choice for good or evil.

What I wonder now is if mirror me in your actual verses is babbling on about this or not. But we'll all know at the end, now won't we?

Oh, and I'm a Christian. Don't stereotype me as some caveman or a fucking luddite.
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>>23316083
Dat awkward kiss.
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>>23305724
>An enemy as brutal and vile as IS can only be treated with equal brutality. They are not worthy of civilized combat. They are not worthy to be treated as warriors.

Doesn't matter how many you kill and with what, there will always be someone affected by it and will want revenge or harbor some sort of disdain for it.

>No fucking quarter must be given. No mercy shown. Wipe them off the face of the earth and hang their naked bodies up for the public to see.

C'mon, you know how stupid that sounds and what will happen in the end-run; you just repeat the cycle of violence over and over by choosing not to try and bring them to your side.
If we decided to gas the germans like they did to the Jews, or march the japanese to their graves like they did to us, we would have some of the most prosperous and economically powerful allies on earth.

>Bill their families for the munitions you expended in removing them.

Whats the currency exchange for .50 BMG to chickens?

>Destroy them and then wipe them from history, never to be mentioned or remembered again.

Kek. Like that has ever worked any of the other times it's been done *cough* Katyn *cough*
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>>23305530
I submit this thought, and add the disclaimer that I am not trying to be an edgelord.

What if war is necessary?
What if we are meant to be these type of glorified apes that kill one another as a means of population control? Other animals and even plants do this, or in a similar fashion.
What if war is our quantity check?

>>23305677
>>23305786
>>23305828
What if, in an old testament manner, God allows war so we can see the stupidity of our ways? What if seeing war and knowing evil, we must acknowledge that good exists as well. If there is Hell, there must be Heaven.

I know this contradicts what I stated earlier, but I just like playing the devil's advocate
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>>23316159
>by choosing not to try and bring them to your side.
You are making the mistake of thinking you can change a persons religious upbringing.

Religion is not negotiable to the religious, as they love to express who has the most "faith"
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>>23316183
>Religion is not negotiable to the religious
That's not true man, I am very open to ideas more correct than what I currently have.

Not conceding a point easily doesn't mean blindly-knowingly-ignorant.

Also all religious people are those fucking extremists, they're bad for what they've done not because of their religion. I feel that shit would have gone down very similarly even if religion wasn't a key. It is just once again being abused both by those in power, and by those at the bottom with the INNATE RESPONSIBILITY to protect themselves from being lead down a harmful path. If these "jihadists" can't even be expected to have a moral compass on their own without being taught it, then they are veru much responsible for the evil they've done. YOu can't blame it all on, "LEL SOME DUDE WITH AN OLD BOOK TOLD ME TO DO AWFUL SHIT AND I DID IT BECAUSE WITHOUT QUESTIONING IT." Alot of people do question it too, they get out and help try to fix the shit in the first place.

I cannot agree with mass murder as a solution to anything. I think, like Gandi said, if someone is shooting at you, you should shoot back. How far out we are willing to justify "prematurely shooting them before they shoot you" will decide alot about the morality of us and our country. I would like to think we will all only ever fight defensive fights, and then there'd be no fights. But ISIS will likely require controlling. I just hope we don't become as evil as them along the way.
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>>23316127
>... we wouldn't be us.
We suck. There is no reason to want to be who we are.

>No choice but prosperity is still no choice.
Being immortal, not feeling pain, and not having to eat does not mean there would be no conflict. People would still want to compete over having the nicest car, the hottest girlfriend, or whatever else we compete over today. People just wouldn't have to die or feel pain. "Evil" would still be possible. It would just not be as utterly horrible as it is for us now.

That is fine if you believe in that hypothesis. But, as far as our observations show, there is one universe and one life to live for each person. I want to know why you feel compelled to craft or believe in such an extravagant and unverifiable claim about the afterlife and the universe. Somehow you know there is a God and you feel the need to make things up to prove that He exists to yourself and others.
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>>23316254
>*all religious people AREN'T
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>>23313755
>>23313776
>>23313797
>>23313814
Good essay, anon. You exemplify the reason I keep coming back to this site.
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>>23316183
>You are making the mistake of thinking you can change a persons religious upbringing.

No, it's not about religion or how they were brought up. It's about integrating them into a larger group through general aid and support.

They can worship whoever they want. Islam and muslims have shown they are capable of surviving in the US and according to US culture, which is what I'm getting at.

If you burn their mosques, kill off the men and women and children and then promptly leave, the survivors will just come back for you. Look at how many terror attacks Russia has had by Chechens since they keep culling the population without integrating them.

As much as you probably don't want to hear or imagine it, the only way of getting stability in the area is for the US to actually develope infrastructure and invest in the region, rather than just bomb the cities, sit in bases for 8 years, then say "mission accomplished" and leave the situation to deteriorate like it has.
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>>23316255
The only two, purely logical, points of view that are acceptable are:
>non-believer but open to the possibility of it
and
>believer but not so blindly that they dismiss criticism without considering it

Now, you have one grey spot.
>a believer that had, as far as they know, a 100% legit religious experience
Their belief may be 100% logical to them, but only they will ever know for sure.
Others can be inspired by it, but should never believe anything but what they can verify 100%.

Now the dumb spot is
>non-believer that says 100% it is impossible that there is any supreme being
That is completely unverifiable, and impossible to prove, EVEN TO YOURSELF.

Skepticism people, skepticism with everything.

And yeah, it is possible that I am someone who feels they felt a religious event and believes 100% without doubt, but I still think you should believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.
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>>23316255
>Being immortal, not feeling pain, and not having to eat does not mean there would be no conflict. People would still want to compete over having the nicest car, the hottest girlfriend, or whatever else we compete over today. People just wouldn't have to die or feel pain.
And how could people possibly learn the same lessons and have the same value and care that we do if they've never really suffered?
>"Evil" would still be possible.
Even this is debatable in your ideal world.
>It would just not be as utterly horrible as it is for us now
It wouldn't be anything comparable to us at all, we wouldn't be. Those stressless creatures in your world could hardly be called alive if they don't have to do anything to stay that way or even have any moral/mental problems to cope with.

I think we are in this shit right now, we can both agree on that. But I think it is to prepare us for some even more awesome than your "perfect world."

Let me leave you with this, who would truly enjoy and cherish that perfect immortal life more, the one born into it, or someone from our world who received it?
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>>23316341
>>23316389

Be kind and love one another and I promise everything will be legit better, I guarantee it.

How can anyone disagree with a message like that?
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>>23305190
>Christian

Aha! I saw this pic a couple of days ago and I just KNEW there was something about the guy that made him look less retarded and backward than the usual sandnigger population.
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>>23314595
if youre already in college, finish it and graduate. dont waste your time with enlistment, ocs will be a much better path. i mean, sure its cool and all to be a salty chief or a master guns and have that respect, but the road to get there fucking sucks. trust me.
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>>23316341
It is not logically acceptable to believe in something you have no evidence for. An old book and an old cult is not evidence for God. I understand that an old cult's members (whether it was your parents or whoever) gave you a book and told you it was God's word. But, that is not evidence.

I am a non-believer and open to the possibility that a god or gods may exist. But, leprechauns may exist, too. I don't need to believe in or entertain anything built upon the possibility of either of these things existing.

Religious experiences are a massive bullshit level of favoritism if God exists. You basically get to go to heaven for free because God personally gave you a strong reason to believe in Him while I am over here fucked because I have no evidence. God could just show himself to everyone and then there wouldn't be a problem.

>But there would be no choice.

Oh and you getting to go to heaven for free is fair, then? If God exists he picked who gets to go. Therefore, He is a little shit who should have never have created me to burn in the first place.

>You can just choose to believe.

Yes, it is perfectly reasonable for me to believe in a magic-sky-daddy for no reason so that I don't burn in hell. (A hell that God wouldn't have to send me to if He wasn't a giant dick). Apparently God wants either the people He picked or those who will just believe what people tell them without questioning it.
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>>23316389

>>23316389
>How can we learn...
How about nobody needs to be round up and slaughtered for their beliefs or ethnicity. There is no lesson to be learned from that.

Value and care? What each person values and cares about differs from person to person. Some people were born poor and some people were born rich. Are you trying to argue that we need the worst suffering possible in order to value or care about things "enough"? What kind of insanity is that?

God, "Well I have to let them rape and kill each other otherwise they wouldn't care about a sunset as much as I want them to."

So, how is evil not possible in my world? If there are limited resources there will be competition. People will ruthlessly fight over who gets what. People will mentally abuse each other. Evil will be very possible. Not debatable at all.

>It wouldn't be anything comparable to us at all, we wouldn't be.

Yes, exactly. It isn't comparable because it would be so much better. Again, it is a good thing that we wouldn't be. We suck. I covered that. The "creatures" I described would not be without stress. Everyone would want to be better than each other so they could fuck the dude/chick they wanted. Everyone would want the nicest things. People would rape and steal from each other. But, at least nobody would have to die or feel pain. There would be plenty of problems to cope with. You fail to grasp exactly how shitty reality is to understand that it could have easily been done better.

>Let me leave you with this, who would truly enjoy and cherish that perfect immortal life more, the one born into it, or someone from our world who received it?

Again, God, "They just wouldn't enjoy immortality and bliss "enough" if I didn't let them brutally torture each other for their entire lives. Can't do it any other way."

Your argument is absurd. We would value things. You are just arguing that we wouldn't value them "enough". I'm more than happy to give up valuing something "enough".
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>>23316406
That isn't the message that religions spread. They spread a massive number of backwards things like hating homosexuals, "witches", and other things.

>inb4 Old Testament vs New Testament

Why the fuck is there an Old Testament, then? Why did God do all of the fucked up shit in it then? The Bible is just a fucking threat of fire and brimstone to keep a population civilized and under control. It is much easier to police a population that way. Systems of control is all they are. It is so funny that humans didn't have religions and Gods until we were intelligent enough to make them up.
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>>23316255
>We suck. There is no reason to want to be who we are.
Compared to fucking what you liberal pansy?
You're fucking lucky we aren't ants being genocided by other bugs.
get your grip on reality, we are the premier race.
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>>23316597
>Why the fuck is there an Old Testament, then?
For reference.
They are the laws of the Jewish faith, the community into which Jesus was born.

He directly overturns certain aspects of Mosaic law in the new testament.

The OT is the old covenant, the NT is the new covenant.

Christianity is about the NT, and directly goes against certain aspects of the OT.
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