Let's talk about our favorite medieval/ non- firearm renaissance

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>>23042042
Viking sword

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I love me some axes. Not exactly as flexible as a sword or a poleaxe, but whatever.

>>23042058
Is that an albion? Looks super nice.

>>23042065
Hey man I hear ya. There's just something extra brutal about a good ol fashion axe.

>>23042058
Viking swords are god tier swords. I would maybe only consider getting a saber because it is lighter and better suited to modern armorless fighting.

you know, cause I get in so many sword fights.

>>23042042
Otherwise I'm a big fan of any polearm.

>>23042234
They don't look bad either.

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what about a glaive? its a fucking knife on a stick.

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I prefer percussion weapons.

Nodachi is cool too.

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>>23042042
Any other answer is objectively wrong.

That's right. Objectively. Your favorite renaissance weapon is the pike, even if you don't realize it.

>>23042265
That's a pretty impressive collection right there. It's almost sad that I can pretty much tell who makes all of those just from the amount of time I've spent browsing and dayydreaming about buying a nice weapon. That poleaxe is definitely the arms and armor one, because thats the same one I posted, and I'm prety sure that bastard sword to the right of it is an Angus Trim. I wish I coul afford to splurge like that

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I like the idea of a flail although realistically I would probably end up hitting myself with it at some point

and not really medieval arms; but I like the idea of the batleth

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By no means a main weapon, but still a nice and reliable side arm.

>>23042349
That's peasantry shit you knave.
>Also capcha: ukoreq answer

the fuck?

>>23042356
Where there ever any episodes where they had a Klingon fight a knight on the holodeck? I just feel like a guy with a proper sword or spear or axe would destroy the ass of someone trying to use a batleth.

>>23042401
Something that's practical to use would destroy someone wielding that shit any day of the week, no matter what it is.

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>>23042349
pike a shit

Swiss saber superior.

>>23042042
Versatility in and out of battle too. You can stab, slash, smash, and still have a perfectly functional hammer at the end of the day.

>>23042349
Also I don't think you know what objectively means. If your objective is to make calvalry not just run the fuck in and slap shit or to kill one , maybe two guys before the enemy line inevitably breaks through and slaughters you and everyone else on the pike line, then sure. Different weapons were made for different OBJECTIVES though, and thats not what this thread is about.

>>23042418
Yeah, it's mechanically shit. The only way to get any real power out of it would be to grab one end and wield it one-handed, at which point you've got the world's most awkward one handed weapon. Two handed, it offers the reach of a couple of long knives and such little range of motion that the knives would actually be a better choice.

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>>23042349
u wot m8?

Do any of you anons actually own any medieval weapons?

>>23042463
>I don't think you know what objectively means
I really hope this entire post was a bad joke. I'm autistic enough to not be able to tell but not so autistic that I can't wonder what the fuck you are on about if it's not a joke.

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Might as well ask here.
What's the deal with Shield design? Was it more a cultural thing or what?

>>23042800
Those are toys.

But it probably has to do with purpose (a buckler and a tower shield aren't for the same thing), building techniques (your average gormless scandanavian gluing wood together is lucky enough to make something round and can't be expected to into shapes), and a good deal of culture as well.

>>23042800
Design? I assume pattern on the shield not the shape. Yeah various groups had various patterns for various reasons for example the Greeks had different things painted depending on what city state they were from.

>>23042747
I own a flail if that counts.

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>>23042818
I know they are toys, it's an example.

>>23042823
Nice. any pics?

>>23042821
>Yeah various groups had various patterns for various reasons for example the Greeks had different things painted depending on what city state they were from.

Uh, no?

Some city states like Sparta had the uniform shield thing going on being the fascists that they are.

In some other city states, they paint shit on shields based on preference of the owner. Most city state's hoplites bought their own equipment.

>>23042848
Dude you clearly don't read deep into history. Ancient Greek hoplites belonged to separate city states. Athenians had Alpha on their shield or an owl being symbols of Athena and the city. Some could paint whatever they wanted yet we see in the records certain city states had symbols on their shields that were usually local. Although some were universally used.

>>23042747
Well I own a Greek spear so ancient not medieval.

>>23043028
still cool.

>>23043183
Its impossible to move around indoors though. I nearly knocked over a lamp with my 8 foot spear.

>>23042333
no, a knife on a stick is a spear.

whats with all these newfags posting and not lurking?

>>23043209
>calling a sarisa a spear
>bragging about it and not posting photos

again, newfags shitting the place up

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>>23042931
>>23042848
Also I should say that specific shield devices were used in certain areas and for different reasons at different times. For example some pottery pieces show hoplites running at the Olympics with letters on their shields. Some suspect this was to show the individual city states during the games, but the problem with that is that other pottery pieces show the races with other emblems and some show letters on shields when in battle so that could just be that specific instance. Messenians also were written to have used an "M" on their shields.

>>23043316
No I have a Greek dory pic related. It's about 7.5 on this one actually which is historically accurate.

>>23043406
that is not a greek spear. nor is it a dory

not made of the right materials.

>historically accurate

just leave newfag

>>23043430
Historically accurate in the sense that its the right shape for the head and butt spike and size. I couldn't get a hold of ash for this one and why would I buy iron or bronze that shit is expensive and this is only for testing. Also yes it is a "dory" why would you say otherwise?

>>23043450
fuck off newfag

>>23043450
>i have a shotgun but its made from wood and plastic why would i get metal its just for testing and expensive also yes its a shotgun why would you say otherwise?

>>23043459
Nah bruh

>>23043475
The metal weighs pretty close to the iron originals and the main reason I used cheap materials is because I was testing overarm vs underarm so in this sense it was fine to use these materials.

>>23043496
>bruh

fuck off newfag

>>23043509
Bruh you need to chill

>>23043496
>HISTORICALLY ACCURATE XD

Lurk more, don't post again for 6 months.

>>23043550
So then tell me what not accurate about it in design.

>>23043517
fuck off newfag

Probably sword (preferably straight), spear, bow and crossbow.

>>23043560
Stop posting newfag.

>>23043615
Or how about you start backing up anything you say.

>>23043316
>>23043430
>>23043459
>>23043509
>>23043563

fuck off faggot, you are ruining the thread. You have provided absolutely nothing other than shitposts.

>>23043626
Stop posting, newfag.

>>23043648
Stop posting newfag.

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>Shit I left the oven on

>>23043655
stop shitposting, newfag

>>23043706
Stop posting, newfag.

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>tfw the ancient Greeks domesticated dolphins and rode them into battle

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It's weird thinking that the ancient Greeks had foot armor.

>>23042848
Spartan society wasn't fascist. That's what idiot marxists believe. Spartan society was actually more akin to the early Roman republic.

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What do you guys think of curved swords?

>>23043792
Elephants do some shit to your feet, yo.

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>>23043916
pretty cool man

>>23043916

CURVED SWORDS

>>23042336

What's the story behind that fuckhuge sword?

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I want this so bad

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Being a Viking I have to go with the Axe. I have one of these guys on my lap at the moment. Paid $50 for it less than a week ago and its pretty bad ass. Did some heavy chopping of a stump with it and it retained the edge damn near perfectly. Very solid and can cleave through a person. The Axe however is nearly impossible to defend with, you've always got to be on the attack for the most part. I think its the best tool in terms of combat and non combat utility. That being said however I think that the poleaxe like OP posted is probably the best medieval weapon. The axe is limited in what you can do but if you do connect with it you're going to leave a mark.

I also have a warhammer that I'm modifying to look more medieval. That is a beast and a half. Really good spike and head on it.

But then again I love a Crossbow.

>>23044129
>The Axe however is nearly impossible to defend with

i keep hearing newfags like yourself spew this shit, and its not true

>>23044134
Well with an axe only its by far not the best with a shield though its pretty good.

>>23044051
Then buy it. Cinquadiae are basically gladiae on steroids.

>>23044134
>newfag
Right.... yeah it is. If you have someone who has skill and training in using a sword they're almost always going to be able to defeat an axe wielder unless the axe man has a shield involved or is constantly swinging the axe and not allowing an opening. You can use the haft to block but its not going to be able to really parry well and an axe is not balanced like a sword. It has the weight concentrated on the head and not the body where the sword is more balanced and easier to manipulate in combat.

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>>23044072
Kebab and Frank alike feared these in the hand of the Oven Man.

>>23044158
confirmed newfag

>>23044159
no they aren, totally different design

>>23044161
you are a newfag compared to me, faggot.

> If you have someone who has skill and training in using a sword they're almost always going to be able to defeat an axe wielder

HAHAHAHAH oh god you are so fucking clueless

you speak as if you know what you are talking about, but you dont.

i dont even have to go into detals of why your wrong, for the simple fact that axes have, throughout history, been used in warfare, in both defence and offence.

you claim to be a viking but you dont understand how easy it is to reinforce the haft of an axe with some metal bands

you are fucking retarded

>>23044201
A man with an axe versus a man with a longsword or rapier is at a severe disadvantage

>>23044201
Oh fuck is this newfag guy?

Yeah everything you just said kinda shows that you're the one who has no idea what they're talking about.

>>23044208
spoken like an armchair warrior

the weapon doesnt matter. the sooner you realize this the sooner you are on your way to not being a dumb fuck

>>23044212
says the bitch who made a "fallout shotgun" that looked terrible.

i do HEMA and can tell you that you are full of shit.

axes are both defensive as well as offensive, but you dont seem to understand that. all because you are an armchair warrior

>>23044223
If you take two people of equal skill in axe and longsword there is no contest that the longsword has way more advantages than an axe by it self

>>23044240
again, armchair warrior, you are full of shit

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>>23044223
It looks fine, you are a part of Fema?

>>23044242
You clearly have no experience. I doubt you even do HEMA please send me a link to the axe manual you use.

>>23044243
>spraypainted

fucking disgusting

you know nothing, stop pretending you do, armchair warrior

>>23044255
i have no experience because i told you just how stupid you are telling me that axe vs longsword and longsword wins every time?

you are an armchair warrior because you dont take into account the fucking MILLIONS of variables that could happen, something you only learn about when you fight

something an armchair general like yourself does not do.

>>23044256
How is that spraypainted?

>>23044266
here we go, filtered

god damn retards

>>23044264
I never said that the longsword wins everytime I said that the longsword has more advantages than the axe. That if you took two people of equal skill and put them in an arena the longsword would win more than the axe most likely as it just has more advantages.

>>23044273
I'm not filtered, i'm raw like a nice speckled horse dick.

>>23044282
>If you take two people of equal skill in axe and longsword there is no contest

yea you did, now fuck off

>>23044223
>the weapon doesnt matter

Then why on earth would civilizations make new weapons, eh? Why bother make a poleaxe when a bollock dagger can do the same job? Why make pikes when arming swords do the same job?
Skill matters, but don't pretend weapons don't make a big difference.

>>23044298
I misspoke my mistake but if you have ever seen a bout between an axe and longsword you would see how difficult it is

>>23044306
why on earth was the axe in use for thousands of years? get fucked, you know nothing armchair warrior

>>23044312
OHH HOW CONVENIENT

get fucked armchair warrior

>>23044317
It was used because of how cheap it is to make same with a spear. The amount of metal for a spear and an axe is so much less than a sword. Wonder why the ancient Greeks mainly used a spear? Well its easy to make and very efficient for larger formations. Axes were also used as tools and as is generally known tools often are made into weapons or are used as weapons of war.

>>23044317
Because it was easy to make. Don't pretend that a simple one handed axe is just as good as a polehammer when fighting armor.

>>23044331
spoken like a true armchair warrior

>>23044345
as above

>>23044347
Tell me what is wrong with my argument, point out one false statement.

>>23044347
>spoken like a true armchair warrior

This entire goddamn thread you have done nothing but say that. You have no argument.

>>23044350
tell me how your argument is even relevent when i called you out on you saying AXE IS USELESS IN DEFENCE

and

AXE VS LONGSWORD LOL

just fuck off armchair warrior

>>23044360
when you admit you are wrong and that you are an armchair warrior, ill let you guys in on my secrets

until then fuck off, you know you are wrong, you even proved it by posting the armchair warrior bullshit you have been

>>23044367
I didn't say axe was useless in defense that was the other guy. You clearly have never sparred with a longsword or an axe or fought with a severe disadvantage in length.

>>23044367
>ill let you guys in on my secrets
What, that you have nothing to provide to this thread other than shitposting?
And you still haven't disproven my argument

>>23044380
you said it armchair warrior

fact is you have never fought someone with any weapon in HEMA let alone SCA or nerdlarp, and yet you think you know anything

>>23044381
put your trip back on, ignoring your posts faggot

>>23044388
>put your trip back on, ignoring your posts faggot

literally "LALALA, CAN'T HEAR YOU!"

And that dude left, same with everyone else in this thread because of your ceaseless shitposting.

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>>23044388
I actually have my sparring rawlings longsword with me as well as the cutlass and the arming sword. We use these since my uni wont allow me to have a feder on campus. Where is your sparring equipment?

>>23044223
>the weapon doesnt matter

Must be why people in HEMA who try to close on a spear guy with sword and shield get stabbed first most of the time.

>>23044416
no timestamp huh? pathetic

>>23044400
>>23044432
fuck off tripfag, you are blatantly obvious

>>23043972
Chinese invent long sword for delegging horses.
Japan adapts it into the odachi.
China later re-adapts it back, because they evidently forgot what it was after a century. This sword was the subject of the film 'Sword Identity'.

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>>23044433
so I guess you dont have any sparring equipment. I guess you're the armchair warrior now. As you have provided no evidence that you have dealt with swords.

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>>23044129
>being a viking

Hurr durr my ancestors were vikings now i'm one too.

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Just ignore and report the whiny, ignorant shit and post pictures of medieval weapons.

>>23044466
unlike you, i dont feel the need to post anything to justify myself, but if you ask nicely, ill post my sparring axe. you cant ask nicely though so keep on samefagging.

>>23044467
hes some faggot cosplayer, nothing more.

>>23044472
reporting someone for somthing you dont like wont work

just proves how retarded you are and how much you cannot even accept that you are wrong

>>23044467
>father is norwegian
>name is Erik
>have swedish, norwegian and danish blood
>grandfather was norwegian
I think that qualifies in so much as you can get to a modern viking lineage

>>23044483
I won't ask nicely so unless you post it you have no credibility also I bet you are part of a reenactment group. I don't know of any manuals that deal with axes other than two handed axes(I assume we are talking about one handed axes)

>>23044501
think i give a fuck what some armchair warrior thinks of me? you already proved how stupid you are in this thread, why would i want to justify myself to you, an armchair warrior?

>he didnt ask nicely

lol called it

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>>23044447
You are baiting pretty hard nontheless what the other guys said is correct that a sword has far better offense and defense but that doesn't mean Axes lack these completly.

>>23044508
I'm the armchair warrior yet I have shown my sparring equipment and you have shown nothing. I can show my rotella if you would like since its pretty banged up from being hit with axes and swords.

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>>23044501
>I bet you are part of a reenactment group

You say that like its a bad thing.

>>23044511
>BAIT MEME XD

you can tell who is new here on this board by their use of retarded as fuck memes, and the fact they clal anyone who they dont agree with a troll

notice how i dont agree with a lot of you, but im not calling you trolls? thats because im not pathetic like this newfag is.

>sword has far better offense and defense but that doesn't mean Axes

i never fucking claimed otherwise, read my posts, you utter dumb fuck

im calling out you armchair warriors because you are full of shit

>>23044520
>hes still trying to justify himself to me

how pathetic, armchair warrior

>>23044496
My family is Swedish but I sure as hell won't call myself a viking because my acestors were vikings.

>Japanese calling themselves Samurai
>Scandifags calling themselves vikings

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>>23044472
All I wanted was a good medieval thread.
Have that one anon tell me of the exploits of the ancient Greeks. That one anon that posted fancy armors. All the other anons having a good time talking about history.

>>23044523
A wood head and a metal handle?

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>>23044530
Well if the mods did their job and people just reported instead of replying it would be fine.

>>23044537
what rules have i broken other than calling you out on being an armchair warrior? do you get your mommy to scare away the bullies who give you shit in school to?

fucking pathetic

>>23044528
To be fair though you also aren't tripping with a name like Erik the Red. I don't actually consider myself a Viking. I'm an American of Norwegian descent if anything but I say that because the name.

>>23044523
Reenactment groups are fine for the historical aspect of getting into period, the problem is that most times the groups meet very rarely, don't study historical manuals on fighting but they do study how they fought (if they do its not as in depth as HEMA),the fighting aspect is not the main purpose, and they often do not fight full contact (grappling, punches, etc). Good for some things but historical fighting is not up there. However there are some groups which are very well done while the ones i've seen in person are not very good in that aspect

.>>23044526
I just keep making you look less knowledgeable and experienced with every post

>>23044556
you dont do anything other than desperatly trying to justify yourself to me

>WANT ME TO POST MY SPARRING WEAPONS?
>WANT ME TO POST THEM?

fucking pathetic

>>23044526

the fact that I called you a troll is because you have been spamming "hurr durr Armchair general!" without saying anything else.

I never claimed that you claimed otherwise I just put in the fact that as a weapon Sword has better offense and defensive capabilities if you take away the other variables.

You are just very volatile and take every claim that doesn't contort to your view as an attack.

>>23044562
I keep asking i you want me to post something so you can actually see some sparring weapons as you probably have never held anything remotely close to a real weapon. Also me asking if you want to post anything in response to these pictures and you not posting anything doesn't help you prove you're not an armchair warrior.

>>23044571
That's pretty cool looking, is it very practical? Is it just plated steel or actual bronze?

>>23044567
learn to read, i said armchair warrior, not general, we are not discussing tactics here, we are discussing fucking fighting.

you dont even know what a troll is, and yet you call me one, with your stupid as fuck memes

its pathetic, and so are you.

you are so desperate its not even funny anymore. grow the fuck up

>>23044574
this kid is so fucking mad he cant even write a coherent sentence anymore

grow up, stop pretending to be anything other than an armchar warrior

>>23043964
I never understood the appeal of this weapon. It's pretty, sure, but is it really practical? I don't claim to be an expert in bladed weaponry. Was there a place for the khopesh?

>>23044622
Ancient Egyptian weapon when most weapons were spears and bows. It was a very good cutting sword for the pharaoh and his guard to carry. Believed to be a tool like a sickle then evolved to this. Also thought to evolve from ancient axes. Sorry don't have my diagrams.

>>23044622
Ancient Egypt. I haven't really researched much about it but I read it was favored because it like an axe sword combo.

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>>23044578
Oh sorry i'm reading several things and mixed up one word, oh how will you ever forgive me.

I would call you a troll since you are stringing people along without bringing anything notable to the table while flinging insults at people for your own amusement.

You comments are very funny.

>>23044496
What an inlay helmet could've looked, basics of the helmet taken from the only Viking helmet found.

>>23044632
>>23044636
In other words, like the khukri, its design purpose was to place more weight at the top of the weapon to increase striking power? Or am I mixing this up with other weapons?

>>23044658
That's more like a kopis. A kopis is chopping, while a kopesh is more like a draw cut.

>>23044658
Well one can only guess when it comes to ancient weapons.

>>23044641
why bother posting anything constructive when all you faggots are going to do is call me a troll and continue to be faggot armchair warriors?

you know nothing, you spew shit you read off of google and have no practical knowldge of the topic at hand

that and your to mad to even coherantly post a scentence, using the excuse "i was reading to much and got confused because im fucking stupid"

and you expect me to take you seriously? get out of here armchair warrior.

>>23044668
wrong. this is why no one takes you armchair warriors seriously.

>>23044658
It also allowed you to bypass an enemies shield and get in a good strike behind it.

>>23044658
>>23044667

In case you don't know, A kopis is this >>23044598 thing.

>>23044667
So it might be a decent weapon to use from horse-back after losing a spear. Like I said I don't know a whole lot but I've been told that wepaons like scimitars and shamshirs were used for that type of wound infliction and not being susceptible to being taken from your hand by the impact.

>>23044679
Archair this, armchair that, you're starting to sound like a carpenter or furniture salesman.

>>23044697
you sound like a child who gets his info on this subject from video games, hence why im calling you an armchair warrior.

>>23044679
This guy actually thinks he is the national encyclopedia on weapons.

>>23044695
Well it doesn't really have the reach and most battle fought when this was used would not have had much Calvary and if anything it was a backup weapon after spears and javelins and bows. Also possibly used as a sidearm for royal guards and pharaohs

>>23044679
>why bother posting anything constructive
You have posted nothing constructive in this thread. Prove me wrong.

>and you expect me to take you seriously?
no, I expect you to fuck off or stop shitposting and actually post something constructive.

>>23044707
Armchair warrior you need to stop posting and go outside.

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Can we also have a fantasy weapons done decently category? Elvish stuff from LotR might not be the best example but most of the movie armor and weapons were well done and a nice balance of practical/fantasy

>>23044713
where did i claim, or even imply that? you are putting words in my mouth because you cant even prove what i have said wrong.

fucking pathetic

>>23044721
>Prove me wrong.

i dont justify myself to armchair warriors, kid

>posts i dont like are shitposts!

spoken like a true armchair warrior

>>23044723
take your own advice, also i find it funny you are so braindead that you cannot even conceive of another insult other than the ones im calling you

thats what i call pathetic

>>23044731
Armchair warrior you need to stop posting and go outside.

>>23044726
needs handguard/10

Other than that, blade could pass for a decent saber.

>>23044735
take your own advice, also i find it funny you are so braindead that you cannot even conceive of another insult other than the ones im calling you

thats what i call pathetic

>>23044741
Armchair warrior you need to stop posting and go outside.

>>23044746
take your own advice, also i find it funny you are so braindead that you cannot even conceive of another insult other than the ones im calling you

thats what i call pathetic

>>23044758
Armchair warrior you need to stop posting and go outside.

>>23044762
take your own advice, also i find it funny you are so braindead that you cannot even conceive of another insult other than the ones im calling you

thats what i call pathetic

>>23044523
>You say that like its a bad thing.

Since reenactment groups are the biggest bunch of unrealistic fags ever, yeah, I'd say it's a bad thing.

>>23044765
Armchair warrior you need to stop posting and go outside.