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Continuing the outer heaven general thread.
>>22932216

Will be posting doc links soon. Join up. Got some gun porn to get us started.
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>>22958903
Bumping again, same gun, links for joining up included.

Brainstorm doc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17HzC_dxSUdwRLO4RAHH6a_a9ZZK5ETj47tGgI631NGk/edit?usp=sharing

Roster/Tasking:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DL23KVpG3A-cBcKUQn51mU3H5PRMyciYvrrCNCYTmao/edit?usp=sharing
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>>22958923
probably should actually post the pic, yea?
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>>22958903
Once we get outer haven I think distilling our own liquor would be cool.
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>>22958903
Outer Heaven?
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>>22959054
You should play Metal Gear Solid.
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Reporting in.
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>>22959016
Easily doable. Primary food production comes first though, last thing we need is a "colony starvation" event from happening.
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>>22959076
I have but that was almost twenty years ago.
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xth for not for any ideology
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>>22958903
I made it
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To all interested parties who wish to /k/ontribute to the founding of our nation, get on these Google documents and register your operator alias, expertise and chosen tasking.

TASKS AND ROSTER: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DL23KVpG3A-cBcKUQn51mU3H5PRMyciYvrrCNCYTmao/edit#gid=0

BRAINSTORMING OUTER HEAVEN: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17HzC_dxSUdwRLO4RAHH6a_a9ZZK5ETj47tGgI631NGk/edit

Wel/k/ome aboard, m8s.
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>>22959054
Hey red.
>>22959076
I tried like 10 years ago and I just didnt feel anything special about it.
Honestly I was kinda bored by it.
I do like these sealand fantasy threads though.
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>>22958903
Here's a pic from the Project Europa thread for those that remember it. As well as some things we researched in the previous month's threads.

Also, unfortunately do to international law each nation owns the waters 3 miles from the shore, this is referred to in the past as the distance at which a cannon fired from sea can hit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-mile_limit

This has since been updated to a 200 mile "Exclusive Economic Zone" designed to protect each nation's fishing rights. Therefore all assets within 200 miles of a nation's coast are considered to belong to that nation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_economic_zone

Unfortunately this includes Sealand after the United Kingdom adopted this new model. Originally Sealand was just a few miles past the limit but is now included within it.

In addition according to the new International Sea Treaty, "man made" islands (such as Sealand) cannot achieve status as a sovereign nation.

http://www.worldislandinfo.com/Starting%20island%20country.html
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Do you really think everybody on /k/ could live in a 1km room? Also, what about hierarchy?
>regarding hierarchy: we worship big boss and write gospels around the twin snakes. We then select somebody to be the grand priest of the patriots who will give us the blessings and knowledge of John, our lord and saviour
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>>22959120
Hey Ruby. I loved 3 except for when Ocelot puts a 9x18 in a single action... that made no sense. I wish they would make a live action version of 3 though. Its what I want the James Bond movies to be.
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>>22959126
Just in case you missed it.

>>22959031
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>>22959111
http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Outer_Heaven

A neat concept, but militarized NGOs tend to be frowned upon in this day in age.

pic related: my wallpaper
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>>22959054
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>>22959154
A .357 single action could probably fire it.
I know the colonel shot all kinds of stupid shit out of his blackhawk.
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>90k
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>>22959167
Saw that, thank you. If one of these "/k/ makes a /k/ountry" threads ever takes hold, your skills would be quite helpful.

>>22959237
link?
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>>22959237
What, for the entire island?
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>>22959223
>>22959231
Its hard to get anything like this to not turn to a political force with guns. The reason special forces units and merc groups work great is because they are either specific government backed or government funded. If you have a group that answered to no one and had no political ties they could start their own political force and force their ideology at the muzzle of a gun. Interesting concept, I don't really see it working well though.

>>22959236
The round fits too snugly. You could probably pound it down in but it would not work well.
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>>22959269
http://www.mondinion.com/Real_Estate_Listings/adid/1580458/Indonesia--Nusa_Tenggara_Barat--Lombok--Island_for_Sale/
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>>22959291
Thats for a plot that not even a full acre
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>>22959291
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/islands?development=&type=private+island&forsale_start=1&forsale_end=2&set=true&Currency=true&search-currency=USD

get trumped.
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>>22959223
>>22959231
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>>22959332
Need somewhere that is around pirates, so we can dominate the business
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>>22959283
I dont know if he did or not but I did see him wrapping rounds in tape and jamming them in then firing them so it wouldnt have surprised me.
I swear to god the man hates his fingers.
He shot a 7.62x39 from his 1911 to prove a point he was arguing with someone over from a movie.
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You boys get the Island. I'll get the PBY full of PBR
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>Purchase Island
>Become Rapture

I'd come hang out.
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>>22959416
you'd be welcome to.
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>>22959402
Yeah well videogame logic was never that great to begin with but I did like some of the power moments in the story. Also first showing of an AMD-65 that I ever saw.
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relevent
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>>22959555
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>>22958903
>>22958957
what is this gun? how does it work?
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>>22959615
it's called the devil dog. Something we might want to try making if we wanted to do a production facility. to the best of my knowledge the hammer slams against the center of that spark plug looking bit, and the center of that is a spring loaded firing pin. But that's purely guess work. more pictures.
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>>22959627
be like msf and make your own weapon schematics.
i have some ideas
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Whatever it is, it looks badass.
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>>22959231
If this is going to be Stormfront Island, I'm out. I'm not interested in enabling a /pol/fag nation.
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>>22959652
get a trip, join the team. we need people with ideas and the know how to make them happen.
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>>22959627
i'm guessing you'd turn that hammer looking thing to lock/unlock the breech?
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>>22959663
It won't be. We have better things to do, and let's be honest, stormfront? having the willpower to carry this through? unlikely.
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>>22959663
I think a lot of the radicals on /k/ would end up making it /pol/nation
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>>22959663
Nah. That's just an older image of the logo. It has nothing to do with Nazism.
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>>22959684
right you are.
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>>22959687
The main issue is infrastructure.
How do we survive?
Whats our main source of food going to be?
How do we make an income?
What is our main export going to be?
How many people would actually come?
Requirements for coming etc
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>>22959677
Wait you need people who can design new weapons or people who can repair and modify existing weapons?
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>Ay boss!
>Wot?
>Chengavok got a hold of a local nationals corpse ag-
>AGAIN!?
>Ye he keeps going on about how he'll find the real 'sweet spot' and that head shots are for pussies.
>DAMN IT DOCTORRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>22959710
All very good questions that we are in the process of tackling, but I'll try to address them as best I can.

1.) Eating, sleeping, drinking, pretty much the same as here, only somewhere else, hopefully nicer.

2.) We're looking into aqua/hydroponics, fishing, farming, etc. This will ultimately depend on location.

3.) Our currency will most likely be generated from selling our services as PMC, production of unique/collector/high quality one offs.

4.) Ammunition, skillsets, firearms. As stated above.

5.) As many as would be interested. This number will play a huge role in location selection.

6.) In progress. I don't want to touch that one yet.
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>>22959677
sure, i was blue gill in the last thread
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From a logistical point of view, even talking about farming is eons ahead of acquiring an island.

There's only really two ways to get said island. We either have to actually buy one, or we need to take one and make the United States or some other large political body acknowledge our sovereignty.

If we're doing plan A, we need to figure out how we're raising that much money, and where we're purchasing.

If plan B, we need to figure out some nebulous land held by a similarly nebulous government, and construct a reason for the US to want us to settle there. A thought off the top of my head would be a Mexican island off the coast, and claim we're peacekeeping militia. Mexico would hate it but probably not devote any resources to removing us, and we would have to beseech the US for support. Long term support turns into sovereignty a lot easier than you would imagine.
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I have faith that we will come together and make this into a reality gents. I really hope that day will come.
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>>22959761
Roster:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DL23KVpG3A-cBcKUQn51mU3H5PRMyciYvrrCNCYTmao/edit?usp=sharing

Brainstorming doc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17HzC_dxSUdwRLO4RAHH6a_a9ZZK5ETj47tGgI631NGk/edit?usp=sharing
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>>22958903

>>22958957

What rifle is that in OP's pic and follow up post? It looks super cool.

Also if someone could answer this question in 15 mins I would owe them a beer, I am about to go to bed and if I don't get the answer soon I likely never will.
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>>22959899
>>22959627
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>>22959899
It's right here
>>22959627
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>>22959899
Hey bro, it's called the Devil Dog. I have a folder of pictures of it. Including this one, with the name visible.
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>>22959758
1. Where does our food come from friend Anon? Are we going to be a banana republic? "Brothers Without Borders Triple Distilled Ivanavov Vodka" "Brothers Without Borders Fine Grain Tobacco!"

2. Fair enough

3. For that to be viable we will need a stellar reputation, not only that if we choose contracts poorly and people actually start dying I think a lot of people will just say "fuck this" and leave.

4. You want to produce arms and ammunition but where will the base ingredients come from? The craftsmen? Do you have a few thousand kilos of metal chilling in your back pocket?

5. A lot of people would be interested once the base started becoming operational.

6. I feel you should get this under raps first. If a lot of low-quality people rock up thinking this whole idea is just an excuse to live lawlessly then expect to get knocked the fuck out by the first country that notices our shenanigans. As well as internal power struggles
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Is this gonna merge with the europa project?
Seems pretty similar
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>>22959958

You just got drafted.

Roster:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DL23KVpG3A-cBcKUQn51mU3H5PRMyciYvrrCNCYTmao/edit?usp=sharing

Brainstorming doc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17HzC_dxSUdwRLO4RAHH6a_a9ZZK5ETj47tGgI631NGk/edit?usp=sharing
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>>22959710
>How do we survive?
Piracy.
>Whats our main source of food going to be?
Pirated food.
>What is our main export going to be?
Lead.....from piracy.
>How many people would actually come?
Enough for a band of pirates.
>Requirements for coming?
ARRRRR
>How do we make an income?
Prostitution.
>>22959899
Its entirely custom and 1 of a kind made by some dude on homegunsmith for his son.
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>>22959780
I say this because, if it's the second option, it's really easy to get started. We could get started within the month, we just need backpackers willing to camp out on whatever island we have scouted. Depending on how often that island is interacted with, we could get a huge start on developing it.
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>>22959985
Anon pls I am conscientous objector.
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>>22960013
Thats a sure-fire way for us to get killed.

>>22960028
I like the squatting Idea. If we choose something remote enough/deserted enough BUT has enough strategic value we could offer up a part of the land as a military base to one of the world powers, gaining their support etc
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>>22960013
I want to be an Air Pirate
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>>22960048
Exactly. Basically, no one has the time to really deal with us... thirty guys camping on an island claiming to be a militia isn't worth any attention or resources.

Once we are to the point we garner attention, we just need to have a reason to be there. In my example, we're just a militia on Mexico's soil. Which is sheisty, but Mexico won't send in helicopters. Then with time... say, several years, the situation is still the same but our island is developed. It's technically still Mexico's, but is it really? We export goods and say we're a sovereign nation. We control that land, and we can garner support from the US by letting them use it as a camp or something, or sending them information.
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>>22960093

You want to make a living by stealing?

People that do that don't tend to live very long.
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>>22960299
What if you prey on pirates?
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Updated list of "goals" for helpful conversation of things we need to consider.

Took longer than intended. Sorry for the delay.

http://imgur.com/a/wbv4i
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>>22960048
>not establishing a nation of buttbanging, ass selling pirates who rob the rich to buy guns dragon dildos and drugs
Pussy.
Have a kitten you extra weepy vagina person.
>>22960093
An aero-ass-pirate?
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>>22960319
When you say the spending range is from $500,000 to $1,500,000, are you setting an example or are those the agreed spending limits?
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>>22960316

Stealing from people that steal?

That's like a parasite that preys on parasites.
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>>22960299
So you say. Piracy takes many forms. You don't have to steal to be a Pirate. You can destroy. I want to be sanctioned by a government to bomb shipping.

>>22960336
If you've seen Stardust you know what I want to be.
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>>22960352
it's an informed example. realistically we can get away with a lot less... but the quality, size, everything else may not be ideal. Need to do a lot more research
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>>22960371
SHAKE. SPEAR.
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>>22960371
Like velvet goldmine?
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>>22960369
So, a predator?
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>>22960352
Just a fictional number for the purposes of expressing the point. Edited that part to reduce future confusion. Thank you for the question. Also this>>22960384
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>>22960429
Yeah that's basically me. I laughed so hard at that scene.

>>22960436
Yes ma'am.
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>>22960473
Ah....well.
I mean I love our sovereign but...like not that much.
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>>22960469
>>22960384
Okay and also, what kind of land area would you say this would have to be. Honestly, since I really have nothing to do, have been looking at a few islands (will stop if you guys want me to, I know there's people on the roster with the task already) biggest I've seen so far is only like 200 acres, but I'll look for a little bit if I can.
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>>22960501
Ah well. I got drunk and made out with a woman in drag as him. Closest I'll get to kissing the real thing.
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Outer Heaven is pretty rad, I'm hyped as fuck for TPP.
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>>22960558
Feel free to continue doing that.
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You know, I keep seeing:
>we make money from agriculture / gunsmithing / Tourism / etcetera

But not once have I seen "Offshore Banking" come up...
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>>22960757
hey farmguy, join the team. We have actually mentioned it a few times in the chatroom.

Roster:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DL23KVpG3A-cBcKUQn51mU3H5PRMyciYvrrCNCYTmao/edit?usp=sharing

Brainstorming doc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17HzC_dxSUdwRLO4RAHH6a_a9ZZK5ETj47tGgI631NGk/edit?usp=sharin
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>>22960590
You got reverse trapped by a woman dressed as David Bowie?
I....have a new fetish
Goddamn it my whore girlfriend is way into country shit and doesnt like Bowie.
>>22960757
You think anyone here is capable of banking much less the kind that goes into that sort of thing?
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>>22958903
Last bump of the night for me:

Roster:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DL23KVpG3A-cBcKUQn51mU3H5PRMyciYvrrCNCYTmao/edit?usp=sharing

Brainstorming doc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17HzC_dxSUdwRLO4RAHH6a_a9ZZK5ETj47tGgI631NGk/edit?usp=sharin


Sign up, and join the search for Home.
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>>22960857
Yes I did. And I loved it. She was dressed as the Goblin King version. That was a great party. This is her.
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>>22960857
I know /biz/ has no clue, that page should be renamed /tlcn/ for Trolls & Coins.

>>22960795
Getting to it, still at work. (yay oilfield)
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>>22960991
Are you by chance in Wyoming?
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So I've been watching this thread since it started yesterday and I'm totally on board with this idea 100% .so here's my two cents, everyone in these threads have been discussing either islands or oil rigs, I suggest you think about either a cruise ship or a cargo ship both of these options address allot the the problems with the other two
1) space: these things are massive, three mobile cities capable of housings 1000's of people and all the infrastructure needed to have a comfortable living and still have space for training
2) matenice, not only are Their 1000's of ports were we could resupply on fuel, food, and fresh water, but it would be easy to maintain and repair with either a paid crew or minimum training
3)amenities, with built in water storage and treatment, power generators, plumbing, kitchen, infirmary, and comms station it has everything we need built in
4)mobility, one of the most visible pros of theses shops if the fact that they could sail to anywhere in the world were their needed, whether it as a staging area and HQ for operations in an area, providing protection for other ships, or if need be keeping mobile and hidden from enemy's looking to attack us
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>>22959663
It's not. That's Eastern religious swastika, not Nazi swastika. The director/writer/producer of MGS is Hideo Kojima.
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>>22961053
we've actually been considering some mobile options, if you comb through the threads we've looked at some barges/cargo ships etc. They boil down to a few major problems:

1.) they use an absurd amount of fuel
2.) producing food on them is challenging
3.) Having dry land to train on, and disembark on, opens up a lot of possibilities.

What seems to be the consensus is this: Get an island, and then get a ship. Keep most the people on the island but have the ship for transport, deployment, and other things.
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>>22960991
Wtf... 1/2 of my post is missing.

>>22961028
Nope, I'm in Central Alberta, Canadian Soviet Socialist Provinces.
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>>22961101
Oh good. Bad things happen in Wyoming on oil rigs.
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>>22961106
A friends fiancée is a Overseer / Contractor for Frac Units in North Dakota / other states.... I've heard horror stories, you guys do much more insane shit than what we do in our oilfield.
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>>22960963
I so fucking beyond jelly.... im cosmoline of you.
>>22960991
I went to /biz/ once not long after the board opened and they were having a deep convo about whether or not a character in a disney channel cartoon was a jew.
Yep.
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>>22961101
Hows life in the Peoples Republic of Alberta?
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>>22961099
I'm going to register and hop on the chat when I get home from work which should be les than a hour from now
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name: Kilo
skills: jack-of-all-trades (carpentry, gunsmithy, emergency field medicine, currently undergoing training from ex-IRA member)
c-can i operate with you guys?
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>>22961193
yea, hop on and sign up.

Roster:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DL23KVpG3A-cBcKUQn51mU3H5PRMyciYvrrCNCYTmao/edit?usp=sharing

Brainstorming doc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17HzC_dxSUdwRLO4RAHH6a_a9ZZK5ETj47tGgI631NGk/edit?usp=sharin
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>>22961164
Come to Utah, I'll introduce you. I've been friends with her for fifteen years. Hell I'll even tell you stories over email if you want.

>>22961163
Yeah shit was crazy. Osha came around every six months and then inbetween visits we were going nuts. One guy literally was throwing home made explosives at jack rabbits with a catapult. I got hit in the head with a shovel and another guy lost a finger in a boating accident when there's no lakes out there.
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>>22961193
>currently undergoing training from ex-IRA member
So youre learning how to accidentally blow yourself up and intentionally blow up innocent families?
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>>22961259
He said ex-IRA meaning he was kicked out because he couldn't blow himself or families
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>>22961226
>Hell I'll even tell you stories over email if you want.
I dont think I could handle that right now.
>One guy literally was throwing home made explosives at jack rabbits with a catapult. I got hit in the head with a shovel and another guy lost a finger in a boating accident when there's no lakes out there.
That sounds like tons of fun though sign me up.
>>22961275
Well heres to hoping he'll accidentally gut himself next time hes teaching someone something.
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>>22961201
Yeah as soon as I get home I'm at work right now using my phone, I'm just waiting for my boss to come relieve me since the filter who was supposed relieve me is 2 hours late
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>>22961259
>>22961275
i can neither confirm or deny this at this time
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>>22961226
well you can look up my email on the doc, shoot it
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>>22961423
Hah sorry mate those are Ruby specific stories.

>>22961400
By not denying you've confirmed that you can't deny the confirmation.
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>>22961646
is this Notloc?

Either way, yea, absolutely. Get in on the ground floor my friend.
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>>22961646
inb4 banned for a month
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>>22961690
Is me mayng
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>>22961460
This thread has dredged up some sinister shit in me so im gonna go ahead and drug my self to sleep.
Email me and ill try to get back to you tomorrow.
>>22961400
Seriously.
Stab him in the neck for me.
I am not joking.
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>>22961193
>training from ex-IRA member
lucky bastard.
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>>22961793
I am glad that you are so confident in your knowledge that you are picking a side on an issue that many potato-niggers have difficulty with. And going so far as to wish for the death of a FORMER operative? Someone who left? You must surely be wise beyond mortals.
Or you are a biased idiot.
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reporting in
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>>22961986
Youd be biased too cocksucker.
Im turning off the computer goodnight.
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>>22961646
You can get banned for being underage, That's what you can do
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>>22962039
I know enough about the situation to know that I have absolutely no business taking sides
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Reminder that if you're serious about this and are not in shape, get in shape.

I have found a local gym and am starting tomorrow.
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>>22959783
If it did i would absolutely drop everything grab all my funs and join you guys
I can farm and am pretty handy with tools and weld like a fucking champ
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>>22962092
>gym
Will hill sprints and push ups/pull ups not suffice?
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>>22962123
I cannot stress this enough. Join us.

Roster:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DL23KVpG3A-cBcKUQn51mU3H5PRMyciYvrrCNCYTmao/edit?usp=sharing

Brainstorming doc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17HzC_dxSUdwRLO4RAHH6a_a9ZZK5ETj47tGgI631NGk/edit?usp=sharin
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>>22962140
Aesthetics and social networking tho
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>>22962227
Facebook, Twitter, the whole nine yards social networking wise
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>>22958903
If I join up, will I still get my va disability monies?
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>>22962262
Face-Face human networking friendo
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>>22962268
only if you can convince the VA to keep sending them.
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>>22962325
im not going to college for no reason. ill set up a network.
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>>22962268
>>22962348
Not him, but that's one obstacle. Can you guys have a law in Sealand that invalidates marriages and frees me from any and all responsibilities? If so, count me in.
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>>22962481
Damn, dude.
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>>22962348
Perhaps a dual citizenship? I just started to check out the docs...
Also, what about fucking? I operate on a 'if you cute, we gud' policy. Does Outer Heaven encourage equal opportunity fucking? Are women involved in the project?
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>>22962614
What? My wife is pretty damn un-/k/. I've gotten her over most of her fear and she shoots small pistols fine, but she wouldn't be up for this kinda thing.
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>>22962481
like joining the foreign legion
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>>22962622
so long as it is consentual and between adults
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>>22962481
um, is gay marriage legal at /k/land?
thats kinda important to me.
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>>22962683
>is consentual
assuming part of this involves operating, like merc tier stuff, what is the policy on war brides/trophies?
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>>22962683
Good answer.
I'd genuinely like to know how old the people signed up for this is, btw. It would give me a bit of peace of mind if on average we weren't younger than mid 20s. Not to sound ageist, but there is a difference between someone fresh out of high school and someone who has a bit more real world experience, something which has driven them to become passionate about this project.
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>>22962711
Dont violate human rights.
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>>22962720
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>>22962683
>>22962711
>>22962720
if murder or rape occurs between two solders or staff. the convicted is left out in open water with no food on a rubber raft. same goes for war crimes guys.
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>>22962760
Lets not get stupid about this guys.

If this is going to be a real thing we can't have draconian laws of execution and shit.
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>>22960336
>pirates who rob the rich to buy guns dragon dildos and drugs

I'm in.
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>>22962760
but I want a necklace made out of kebab ears.
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>>22961172
Super awesome, as long as your not in the cities.
Cities = Peoples Republic
Rural = Texas Light

>>22961226
Osha? Ohsa (Occupational Health & Safety Agency) here.
Yea we have WCB & ECRB watching everything like hawks here... And yet Green Peace is always up here bitching.
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>>22960625

someone with tits that big and unsupported would be a goddam train wreck on the battle-field. Why is everyone in Japan a horny 14 year old boy?
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>>22962785
Not to say I agree with the previous post, but what is proposed are far as laws are concerned? Exile? Prison? This is quite the rabbit hole.
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>>22962820
Even better: supposedly she was a boy. Or may still have a penis for all I know. Methinks 4chan loves Quiet.
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>>22962687
We can iron out details later in bro
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>>22959465
>>22959154
IIRC it's identified as a .45 colt by Sigint, my best guess is the ring around the cartridge that was connected to the chain Ocelet was wearing made it fit
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>>22962834
Libertarian. Almost no laws. Death/Exile to the few who can not obey basic no murder no rape rules. Reparations for all other damages.
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>created this as a joke three days ago
>even samefagged a little because the thread was going slow
>thread two
>mfw

Not sure how to feel about this.
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>>22963123
>Libertarian. Almost no laws. Death/Exile to the few who can not obey basic no murder no rape rules. Reparations for all other damages.
So, worse penalties than most other countries outside the third world?

What will your traffic code be like?
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>>22963164
>as a joke
From your joke shall spring a mighty nation, its like when the American founding fathers made a crack about declaring independence from Britain over some beers while they were sitting around complaining about the king and the idea just sort of grew from there.
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>>22963189

ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS HAVE A THINLY VEILED TPP THREAD.
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>>22963164
Don't be surprised, /k/ & /pol/ have been dreaming of a separate nation for years.

Joke to you, goal for others.

>>22962834
I've always been partial to Exile, it removes it as our problem, and if they cry about it in another nation, we just have the diplomatic corps yell back "Then you shouldn't have broke the law dipstick", and no one else cares.
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>>22963187
>worse penalties than most other countries outside the third world
might be more of an opinion thing, but i think exile for killin and rapein sounds a lot less harsh then 15 years in prison for having some pot or stealing a VCR.
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>>22963207
>but i think exile for killin and rapein sounds a lot less harsh then 15 years in prison for having some pot or stealing a VCR.
I said OUTSIDE the third world. So not africa, bumblefuck asia or america

also
>What will your traffic code be like?

furthermore
>what of laws for things that aren't childish caricatures of crime like MUH RAPIN N' KILLIN such as violations of workplace/chemical/fire safety standards or public urination
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>>22963164
You know know these faggots will latch on to silly ideas.

I'd say you should feel pretty good, I love watching nerds get all excited abiut something that's not real. It's like the Scottish referendum all over again.
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>>22963164
These threads pop up on /pol/ and /k/ every once in a while, but recently they've actually been quite organized.
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>>22963193
There's always /mgg/.
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Can I assume that 3d printing will play a large part of our industry...?
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>>22963261

But Niles
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>>22963123
>>22963203
Only prob I'd have with exile is making sure wherever they go, their conviction travels as well. We don't need other countries crying foul when we 'send them' killers and rapists without them knowing..
Otherwise, it would be financially sound and encourage citizens to stay on the up and up.
What about drugs?
I feel like we need at least one person who is VERY well versed in law to figure out how we as a collective cover our asses in the global community.
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>>22963246
>>what of laws for things that aren't childish caricatures of crime like MUH RAPIN N' KILLIN such as violations of workplace/chemical/fire safety standards or public urination
friend I don't think you quite grasp the point, the idea is to get out of the nanny state, not become it. read:
>Brainstorming doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17HzC_dxSUdwRLO4RAHH6a_a9ZZK5ETj47tGgI631NGk/edit?usp=sharin
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>>22963269
Filter the tripfags.
I know what you mean though, too much shitposting right now.
Gotta wait until more trailers come out.
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>>22963281

So... six months from now?
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>>22959054
Big Boss frowns at your ignorance.
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>>22963307
yes
such is life as a metal gear fan
I'm gonna replay the entire series, and hype myself up.
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Wait, we're really gonna try this?

Count me the fuck in.
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>>22963256
>We are becoming exceedingly efficient at it.jpg

>>22963276
Yes, we definitely don't want to anger the international community. So if we ever became the chum buddy of China / Russia / USA, in return for letting them fly/dock here, they take our criminals.

It not like we'll have many.
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>>22963279
so how will you do things like, say, manage traffic to not be a horrid clusterfuck of tourists' cars? What will your criteria be for the cataloguing of hazardous materials and how they are hazardous (so that emergency personnel can clean it up effectively)?

Or is this just an anarchist commune that won't go anywhere because no one's responsible for anything, so nothing will get done?
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>>22963348
Once alliances come into play, enemies can follow. I think the sans frontieres concept should be employed literally so that we don't step on the wrong toes.
Wet dream instance: some chaps do wetwork for country X. Country Y finds out, retaliates against the group, rather than country X, since that would turn into a bigger shitstorm.
There is much to ponder. Tree huggers would have a much easier time establishing a non-threatening community than a collective of people who could be considered paramilitary, even if we're on the level.
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>>22963334
get on in here friend
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DL23KVpG3A-cBcKUQn51mU3H5PRMyciYvrrCNCYTmao/edit#gid=0
>>22963348
I feel like China would be a good friend to have in that area, and they love swinging their dicks around the rest of Asia, so a China friendly port island might be cool.
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>>22963348
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>>22963413
No, not the Rocky Road.
That's my favorite flavor ;_;
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>>22963413
Jesus Christ how horrifying!

>>22963391
I'm already on it buddy
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>>22963376
Well I can not speak for the group. But as far as I know it is to be a paramilitary country/organization, so no not an anarchist commune at all, and as far as getting shit done, again paramilitary, so I figure shit will get done quickly.
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>>22963386
There is that risk yes, but you can mitigate that risk by allowing all sides to tender their vessels / aircraft there in return for whatever is agreed on.

>>22963391
It would be handy having a regional power on your side, but at the same time you don't want to be squished by the upcoming 'Pacific Pivot'..

My thoughts on it was with the India Ocean island options, that we would offer Russia tendering contracts in return for aid. Russia receives new range for its fleets, we get lots of Rubles to use... this was before Ukraine shit flinging of course.
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I'm in.
I've got a lot of different things I can do but none of the funds required to do it. I can read and understand schematics and parts manuals.
Farming, hunting, mechanical/machining work.
A bit of experience in food production and such as well. Also taking up a hobby in trying to reverse engineer some stuff too, but that's still in its infancy.
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>>22963413
;_; man I hope that's cleaned up right after the photo was taken.
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>>22963470
>paramilitary
>shit will get done quickly
confirmed for never having been even near a military building, let alone in a military environment
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>>22963569
>confirmed for never seeing a Sgt make Pvts rake leaves.
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>>22963569
>>22963470
all military is like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxRSsUcuXPQ
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God dammit, I want to be a part of this shit.

I'm pretty damn good at repairing small engines, especially two strokes. I'm not a half bad shot either.

I'm sure I could construct a few Mad Max helicopters if I had the plans and the parts.
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>>22963575
>confirmed for never seeing a PO make Mat1s organize the other Mat1s to go to dinner on time

>>22963588
>thinking a town is built on "mad max helicopters"
>thinking he can build such a thing
yolo
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>>22963599
O-okay then.

Sky pirates need rad gyro-copters.
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>>22963599
>Those crazy Wright brothers and their flying machines!
>It can't be done!
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>>22963613
>>22963605
>>22963599
>>22963588
this isnt waterworld altho that would be cool
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>>22963599
Never seen a "Mosquito" Helicopter bud? There pretty sweet little machines.

>>22963588
Mechanically inclined is always useful, be ready to help build structures and Aquaponics units.
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>>22963613
>>22963636
>saying some random anon probably can't do a thing means that the thing is impossible

I can't drive 55, therefore, the speed of light is 55
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>>22963636
I don't know shit about Aquaponics but I'm up for it.

What are we gonna do with the current inhabitants of Sealand though? We can't kill them, we'd be branded as pirates.
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>>22963651
It appears we've moved on way past Sealand, friend.
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Web developer and novice-to-intermediate programmer/sysop (depending on what the subject matter is).

I'll keep an eye on these. I'll hop in if and only if you have a location established and a gameplan for political relations. I travel a decent bit so at that point, I'll plan a trip to the locale and spit with you guys in person. You'll need information infrastructure and someone to manage your local network.

Though in the meantime, I would highly recommend people dumping pdfs and guides of relevant information, and creating a DropBox of these do/k/s. We'll have a small electronic library of information to bring people up to speed.
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>>22963655
Moved on to what?
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>>22963665
Did you not read OP/go to the links provided?
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>>22963665
PMC work to fund an island.
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>>22963665
Island in the Malaysia/Indonesia area.
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>>22963686
>/k/ doing PMC work

Lel

>>22963690
That doesn't sound too bad, but the mosquitoes and the heat and humidity would destroy morale and equipment.
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>>22963690
Since when did we decide on Malaysia?
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>>22963709
>/k/ doing anything else for a living
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>>22963742
>implying /k/ could even physically do PMC work, let alone the fact that no one would hire us.
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>>22963748
Every great journey begins with a single step.

Shitty security contracts protecting a herd of goats ain't glamorous, but it's a start.
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>>22963646
No the "> thinking he can build such a thing" was the part I was rebuking. Mosquito choppers are very mad max~ish.
Tubes, 2 rotors / props, and a small snowmobile engine.
Good for 40miles of flight in calm air.

http://www.innovator.mosquito.net.nz/mbbs2/index.asp
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>>22963762
If those actually exist, we have a chance.

But thats all we'll have for a long while
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>>22963709
>>22963726
Yeah, that's a poor spot. We'd be flooded by Indonesia immigrants in no time the moment they found out that we built a house. Ask Australia if you don't believe me.
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>>22963780
thire are hunderds of low risk low value things that need guarding, like goats, and empty ware houses, and rich white folks, those all exist and could give the /k/ PMC a start and some reputation.
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>>22963780
I have no idea, but I did a short job back in July where I drove two states over and camped in a guy's field on the US/Mexico border for a week to protect his property and family from illegal aliens. I was within 1/4 mile from the border or closer at all times.

I have to assume if shit like that is available in the US, then in a wartorn or threatened place in shithole countries there HAS to be people wanting protection. It's just logical.
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>>22963801
>>22963807

Welp, guess that means I'm in.

I guess I should start printing off building plans for small helicopters.
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>>22963807
dude that's /k/ as fuck. How do you get work like that? I envy you.
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>>22963780
Elephant & Rhino guards, gotta fend of poachers.

Get a decommissioned frigate, slap on some dakka, do escort work for pricey container ships.

Protect Japanese whalers from fat Australian for $.

The options are slightly endless.
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>>22963811
I dub thee, "ThaChoppa"
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>>22963843
I like it.

Anything else I have to do to become officially a part of this?
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>>22963822
It's nothing tacticool or operator, but for personal reasons I don't want to say over the internet. Nothing happened while I was there with buddies (which was mostly the point, we were a deterrent and made our presence known for that reason) and with all our expenses we didn't even break even. I did it for the experience alone because I was the only one of my buddies who didnt go military.

It did show me I do kind of like doing security work for people besides the fucking government, though.
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>>22963851
Go here, fill it out.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DL23KVpG3A-cBcKUQn51mU3H5PRMyciYvrrCNCYTmao/edit#gid=0
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Glad to see this is going well, don't forget to sign up on the roster, we have 23 people on it already so if you forgot to do that go ahead.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DL23KVpG3A-cBcKUQn51mU3H5PRMyciYvrrCNCYTmao/edit#gid=0

We'll take all skilled and unskilled, because anyone can learn just about anything and we have a long road ahead of us so you'll have plenty of time to learn new things. Even a skill that you might think is dumb could come in handy, right now we're really just focusing on planning the beginning steps to this whole thing so don't be afraid to join in if you're interested.
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>>22963854
but for personal reasons I don't want to say over the internet.
Eh, understandable, still good for you mate, I hope to get back into security some day.
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>>22963862
Cool. I think I did that right.
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>>22963919
I think I'll also look into getting our members educated about shit. Reading maps, navigation, communication. All that stuff. Just in case we have members who don't know that stuff already.
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>>22964006
We need somebody who can twirl guns without ND-ing.
Essential skills, you know.
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>Want to join
>No practical skills
>Know quite a bit about optics and photography
>Know a bit about audio production
>Decent writer
>Hasguns
Guess I'm joining the clownshoes corps.
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>>22964073
Or work on gathering intelligence, setting up surveillance perimeters.
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>>22964036
It is remarkably easy with a nagant revolver
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