/k/. When will the military field exoskeletons to soldiers and is there any heavily armored units in the military?
>Go ahead and break my arms faggot, I'll do push ups with my dick
Gotta admit, I kinda liked how Edge of Tomorrow portrayed them.
>dat Emily Blunt being sweaty as fuck with her toeless socks
Should've kept the novel ending though.
Sir Tiptop Kekkington, no. Not until we can afford both research and production. Or even a use for them aside from prototype unit warfare.
>heavily armored units
Dismounted? No. Mounted? Obviously. An Abrams doesn't weigh any less than 50+ tons on any given Sunday, a little more so with ERA/USK equipment.
In other words, not our lifetime, unfortunately.
>the ability of the suit will help soldiers pick up/carry heavy objects allowing for soldiers to carry that heavy as fuck suit completely negating it in the first place.
I don't think you understand.
Only when technology allows for extra weight being carried, while still allowing enough mobility and speed can I see the role of "heavy infantry" being brought back into the battlefield. This however would require exoskeletons being able to carry a substantial amount of armor, speed, mobility and a large powersupply
I could see a heavily armored exosuit being perfect for the first guy in on door breaches. You don't need to be able to carry anything more than a gun and the armor.
As time goes on and the tech behind it improves we'll see more troops using them until eventually it's standard issue and integrated into a battlesuit of some kind.
Powered exoskeletons would only be viable provided it gave adequate protection to soldiers without sacrificing mobility, making the soldier's profile fuckhueg, had adequate power, and armored structurally weak vital systems (that if shot, render the armor unusable) and ergonomic. That being said, even the strongest armor can be pierced even by fairly dated conventional weapons. The best way to fight a ground war (particularly in regards infantry) is to have the initiative on your enemy and to avoid being seen so as to maintain the element of surprise and maximize your economy of force. Powered exoskeletons are counter intuitive in this regard in the current state.
While pyschological warfare is fine and dandy, people have to worry about getting shot.
And nothing draws fire better than a big object. Unless you intend to armor that soldier in reactive tank armor, you best have a body bag ready and a letter to send home.
All I did was imagine ERA going off while mounted to some very unlucky SOB and either it shredding him apart or hurling his ass several dozen feet from the shock repeatedly as it all goes off. Human pinball.
Well, that's solved by much of the bulk being armor.
Drawing fire is actually not that bad if you can handle it and dish out a hefty amount of return fire. You have the advantage of being able to be shot multiple times and be fine, they don't. Suppress the enemy and be the focal point while your squadmates are able to largely move freely since everyone and their grandmother is focused on the behemoth unloading in their direction.
We are using exo's right now on a trial basis in Afghanistan last I heard. The HULC is getting more and more efficient and with recent advancements in battery tech we could use sugar to power them. http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01-29/scientists-have-created-sugar-powered-battery-our-smartphones
Sugar powered fuel cells guys, you could collect the waste water from the system to I would think.
When they manage to make it small enough that they can actually replace limbs with it, and medical science has advanced to the point where limbs can be removed or replaced like USB sticks.
Imagine - you've just completed your CDC, and you're now a fully qualified Navy Seal. Then they tell you it's time for the surgery. Your current limbs will be kept in cryo storage for the next 5 years until your contract is up.
They put you under. Your arms are taken off at the sockets, your legs are taken off at the femoral sockets, your hip is removed, and the vessels are closed. Your shoulder blade is removed, and replaced with a series of CV joints that connect directly to your replacement hips. Your ribs are removed and replaced with slatted steel armor, braced against the shoulder-hip join so your insides don't get accidentally crushed.
Each limb is tied into your nervous system and responds exactly as your normal limbs would, down to the dexterity of your fingers and complete sensory feedback.
Each piece is powered by a small reactor which charges a battery, and while being fairly weak, it's enough to power you for normal movement. For strenuous movement you can flip a switch and go superhuman until the energy runs out and must be recharged.
We Crysis now.
i mean right now maybe, but development can take time for something like this. realy the biggest problem would be powering the damned thing for long enough for combat useage. if it clocks out after 24 hours its not going to be anything other than maybe a specialist item or something for transporting goods, which was kind of the point in the first place, helping people carry boxes.
fighting for freedom and getting high with your comrades when?
The only way I can see it working now is if it was used for defensive purposes, and users remained within a certain area.
In Evangelion, the EVA's have a 5 minute power supply, but get around this by putting multiple power cables throughout the city they are defending.
This would be retarded as all shit for an exoskeleton, but it would work.
Not necessarily. I mean nothing except some skin, muscle and nerves would actually have to be cut to remove your legs and arms. If you've got the tech to interface nerves with an artificial leg, I'm sure you can interface them back with normal nerves again.
Still it doesn't have any benefit, an operator doesn't need superhuman strenght to punch heads off, maybe corneal implants with some sort of glasses for a HUD display would be much more useful.
Damnit, anon. This isn't the time for best girl.
By the time these see combat use battery tech will have improved. If it's not good enough yet then just wait a few years. It WILL improve and we can only speculate on how much.
>Can make giant fighting robots capable of incredible mobility
>Cannot into improving battery technology or other power sources alongside it
I never asked for this.
Fuck exoskeletons. Full prosthetics is where it's at.
Just making sure we are on the same side anon.
Just run them on gasoline, JP8 or diesel. I don't know why everyone seems to think you need an entirely electric drive for this shit.
Also the first true exoskeletons to actually see battlefield use probably will be tethered, most likely to tanks for logistics use.
He needs superhuman strength to run across a 50ft expanse, exposed to enemy fire, while they're reloading.
He needs superhuman strength to shoulder an M2 and fire it from the crate of ammo he's carrying on his back.
He needs superhuman strength to punch straight through a wall, instead of breaching a doorway where the enemy has all their guns pointed.
He needs superhuman endurance to do all of the above for hours, or even days, at a time. Drugs can already keep you mentally alert - but if your leg and arm muscles aren't drawing energy, you will have far more stamina to carry on non stop than you would otherwise.
You also have the benefit that your extremities are all armored to some degree against small arms fire. Made dense enough, and nothing but a gutshot or a headshot would put one of these guys down. The kinetic energy of a bullet hitting your frontal shield would be transferred back into the supports, and at worst you get a bruised back, whereas before you would've had a hole in your chest.
Gasoline is heavy. The point of power armor is for the soldier to be able to carry a shitton of equipment, and that point is kind of lost if they have to carry a hundred liters of gas on them
No, the major drawback is battery technology not being advanced enough to allow usage for long periods of time, for example, the Lockheed Martin HULC allows soldiers to carry up to 200 lbs + the weight of the exoskeleton without noticing it, run at speeds up to 7 MPH, and sprint at up to 10 MPH (at a large cost to battery life), the only problem is that the battery only lasts 4 hours if all of the soldiers time is spent walking at 3 MPH. Once they solve the battery problem it will be ridiculous what soldiers could be armed with (average weight carried by soldiers today including ruck is about 80-90 lbs), all while sprinting around like they are carrying nothing.
Well, it's confirmed. Asuka best girl, BTFO Rei fans.
>even though I like her too..
There's more than one endgame for exo-skeleton development. Heavy infantry able to field normally crew served or vehicle mounted weapons is one of them and probably the closest thing to the power armor we see in fiction.
The HULC system uses 1000 watts of power.
The Hoch nuclear reactor can put out 10 kilowatts, and it's small enough to hold in your hand.
We have the technology, people are just squeamish about applying it where it needs to be.
Other Asukafag here, i like her. just not as much.
I liked Evangelion back when you were still drinking out of a sippy cup
I watched the movies in Japanese because they had not translated them yet
I figure at some point in the future basic troops will resemble this with advanced powersuits.
Pic related is the HULC, simply doubling the weigh soldiers can carry would do ridiculous things, doubling the weigh of the armor soldiers carry could give them full body NIJ IIIa coverage plus rifle plates over the full torso and the front of the upper arms and their helmet could be made to stop rifle rounds + a NIJ IIIa ballistic mandible/face shield, combining this with the LSAT program would allow them to issue every soldier a LMG and the guys who would normally get LMGs could be given an XM214 microgun.
It's not that. It's that I don't see how wearing that shit makes you stronger since you are actually carrying the weight of the machine and the stuff you are carrying.
Because the robot parts are assisting you in carrying the weight, it's the same principle behind hey bro this dresser is too heavy for me to move on my own, come help me. How is this hard to understand?
A human being can lift it's weight and more.
A machine can do that to an extreme.
It's weight is arbitrary compared to how much it can lift
And? It's not as if the machine is several tons.
Do you not know how a master/slave system works? You aren't pushing against the robot suit to get the robot suit to move, the robot suit is reading your movements and then duplicating them.
>inb4 you're still carrying the weight while wearing it.
The machine is mostly supporting you. Same way a grown dad can carry his kid, and a cinderblock. All you are doing it steering the fucker.
So build one with modern tech. Oh wait, the ecotards won't let us, because something built decades ago is unsafe the modern version of it must also be so. Meanwhile wind farms chop birds into little pieces and solar power stations are flash frying them by the hundreds.
Imagine a big burly man and you're standing on his feet and he's holding your arms while you lift things doing almost all the work for you. It's exactly like that only the exo-skeleton doesn't tickle the back of your neck with it's chest hair.
Radiation shielding still weighs a lot and takes up a lot of room.
Considering the US wants the first versions ready for use by special forces by 2018, the first milsurp ones should be available by 2050 if not sooner.
Solar farms destroy insect populations around them.
Wind farms are causing migratory bird species to go extinct as they get confused and end up getting slaughtered en masse in the turbines, or at the very best, don't make it to their destination and die of starvation.
Guys remember this is only the prototype. I'm sure comforting simulation body hair will be included in the production model along with a soothing baritone voice that whispers motivational phrases in your ear.
Technology is exponential
Expect SOF units to have working power armor suits before 2035.
Look at tanks in WW1. Then look at tanks 25 years later.
Funny thing is it's actually true. Birds fly into the concentrated light beams in the salt turbine type (the tower surrounded by mirrors) and burst into flames as if it was a kid frying ants with a magnifying glass.
The solar plants are Archimedes' heat ray in action super sized and computer controlled.
As for the turbines they smack birds right out of the air. A solution to that is make them ducted and put a mire mesh over the openings.
I would have to put a hilt on the male one and use the female as a sheath. Attach it to a belt or something and you've got a weapon that will cause an immediate wtf from any attacker.
And by working power armor I mean like shit like not that god awful garbage we today. That's just first generation.
I honestly expect Master Chief tier power armor ( without energy shields of course ) before 2070.
Yes, but it wouldn't be easy. Concrete is already a bitch to destroy without spending hours pounding away at it, or using so much force that everything nearby also gets fucked.
You could seriously fuck up a car though. Probably rip the fenders off.
Wouldn't even need augmentions tbh. Master Chief's suit weights, what? 1,000lbs? Current shit tier power armor like in the OP can already carry 200lbs like it's nothing in the year 2014.
New technology grows exponentially really fucking quick. Look at both the airplane after WW1 and the tank. Or space tech.
Thinking about it those solar arrays could be weaponized in spectacular form. I can see it now.
>2025, war has begun
>Hostile jets make the mistake of flying over the great Californian solar farm (formerly death valley).
>Everything seems fine then they notice an intensely bright light and everything starts getting hot within seconds.
>Light just keeps getting brighter and eventually the plane bursts into flames and the hull begins to melt from the intense heat.
PRAISE THE SUN!
>looping all liberals in with hippies
Fuck you're ignorant.
Here's the difference in our philosophies:
I listen to scientists whose job it is to determine and spread the truth to the fullest extent that modern science can determine on various topics, including the enviroment
You listen to corporate pundits paid by organizations who have a vested interest in an ignorant populous.
>The Hoch nuclear reactor can put out 10 kilowatts, and it's small enough to hold in your hand.
Sure, the core can (not the size of a single pebble but about the size of a mini keg is the right ballpark) but once you add in all the shielding and cooling then you're looking at something the size of a washing machine minimum, and that's assuming you aren't too fussed about radiation emissions.
A pebble bed reactor can't magically overcome critical mass requirements. You could use a fissile material with a lower critical mass, like americium but it would be expensive as all fuck.
The Davy Crockett gives a good idea of what can be achieved with plutonium/uranium since a nuclear weapon is, in effect, a reactor designed to operate very quickly. However, for controlled fission, you need to go larger with more material and neutron reflectors since nuclear weapons use explosive compression to achieve criticality.
Perhaps some sort of mega tank. A regular sized tank would be pushing it and you'd limit the crew to short missions to avoid radiation poisoning, thus defeating the greatest benefit of nuclear power (endurance).
The solar system. Used thousands, or hundreds by the time of Stardust Memories due to improved computer control systems, of mirrors to reflect and focus the light of the sun for use as a weapon.
Wasn´t the military working on a energy harvesting device?
That could elongate the battery life immensly so why not simply make exoskeletons more efficient and simply armor them.
It sounds way cheaper than surgical augmentations.
Sure they would get a HUD, a trackingdevice and most likely a killswitch implanted but the limbs are not feasable.
Just imagine an EMP hitting your cities and your supersoliders are suddenly cripples again because most units i their limbs were just fired.
This, to some extent.
Why spend tons of money building a condom for poor sensitive little GI's when you can replace their entire body? Much more efficient, much cheaper, less parts of the soldier to break and id assume less bulky.
Id stop short of UGV armies though. While robotic technologies may reach the levels comparable to human abilities, i think it will be a long long way off from replicating human brains. Why not just work on making humans better?
Eventually, we can get to sorting out our simplistic frames and replace the outdated biology bit by bit, until our humanity is nothing more than a representation of our global identity to transcend primacy.
Shit, you know, that could almost be feasible.
As well as replacing the limbs...
Artificial heart? Check.
Blood-gas exchangers to replace lungs? Check.
All we need to do is figure out how to convert ATP (adenosine triphosphate, the body's direct source of energy) to actual electrical energy, and we could run all these motors and pumps and devices with the body's own blood supply and energy. No reactors or batteries needed.
>mfw looking around
>mfw that tech already exists
>Imagine what it would be like if electronics operated like cells. The electronics could stay inside our bodies without batteries — all thanks to ATP. Improving communication at a localized level would improve biosensing and diagnostic tools. And computers would become more efficient if biological components made their way into transistors.
>Of course, prosthetic devices would benefit tremendously.
And this is why ironically, military funding will always indirectly benefit people to some extent.
We will get to the point of making humans so survivable that we will presumably lose the point of making war in the first place.
Assuming we don't tear ourselves down before then.
>Of course, prosthetic devices would benefit tremendously.
We good old times after 9/11 now?
>/k/. When will the military field exoskeletons to soldiers and is there any heavily armored units in the military?
As of current technology, exoskeleton manufacturers can build exos that can carry everything that's needed.
The only problem everyone has is to create a power source that can make the exosuit viable.
Once that is solved, you can expect powersuits to be in the battlefield in massive numbers.
>your life isn't worth half a mil easy
Do you even understand how much money governments put in their troops? Easily in the millions per soldier. It rises exponentially if they get injured and you have to pay for healthcare for the rest of their lives.
>and no armor over the arms or chest, seriously what the fuck? The armor from Edge of Tomorrow was the same way.
But they had armor for the chest area in Edge of Tomorrow. They even had heavily armored types that are covered almost everywhere.
The EoT power armor was basically more for enhancing the soldier's ability than protecting them anyway. But they still had body armor underneath the armor too.
Besides, doesn't modern doctrine champion not getting hit in the first place over surviving hits? mobility is what's important, to quote the trainer guy from Mechwarrior:Mercenaries, "In real combat, speed is life, you go slow, you die."
They made 3 kinds of suits, I read about them:
1 was very realistic models, for the few main characters.
2 ware primitive models, for actors in background
3 3D version for back plan and several scenes
Yes. Watch behind the scenes, Tom said the suit weight 8Kg without any attachment and 15 when it loaded with bunch of shit.
The scene when Rita spinning in midair and stab a mimic? It was real stunt. With cables of course
Doesn't even need to be a reactor, it could also be an RTG of some sort. One kilogram of fresh Polonium-210 for example generates 140 kW and has a half-life of 138 days. But like with all nuclear fuel, they are highly radioactive and will be spread into the environment when containment fails - which will happen at some point in war. Plus it makes an excellent murder weapon in minute amounts.
There's a reason these things don't exist even when they could.
Just so you know, at top RPM a minigun creates a constant recoil force of 300 pounds or more. There is no way they can be hand held or exoskeleton mounted without drastic RPM reduction. Triple barreled gas operated machine guns, maybe? Miniguns, nah.
Nobody respects the classics. Fucking Starship Troopers' Mobile Infantry. Fuck the movie, the book would make your manhood quiver with the practical details of the suits. Heinlein was ahead of his time, as were most great sci-fi authors.
Holy dog shit, this article talks about Lockheed Martin supposedly demonstrating a lighter version that can go for an 8 hour march on a single battery charge:
If the capabilities that this anon >>22855641 estimates are true, how would a military without powered exoskeletons be able to counter a military that has powered exoskeletons?
Packmules, more dudes, high capacity assault vehicles (trucks), whatever. Basically, it's an advantage, but it's not a huge paradigm shift. When it comes to armor, first off I wouldn't run more armor than you can comfortably wear already as the thing could still lose power at an inopportune moment. Besides that, it's just as hot and bulky, etc. Also wearing a facemask still sucks and the exoskeleton supports you either at the legs or at the legs and arms, but not the neck, so it's not going to make any less when it comes to armored helmets and faceplates. Finally, say we do get to a point where everyone is running armored plates all over with full coverage power armor - saboted armor piercing small arms munitions are going to get a lot more popular.
>how would a military without ridiculously huge manly men soldiers be able to counter a military filled to the brim he-man woman haters?
I don't imagine it'd be particularly hard honestly, hell even the most primitive of stuff would start to become increasingly effective.
You drop a fully loaded dude in an exoskeleton into a hole and he's fucked, sure he can walk and run around, but he sure as shit won't be able to climb.
you could put your heavy machine gun teams in exoskeletons and they could carry their M2/mk19 dismounted. Allowing the quick deployment and redeployment of heavy weapons in places you can't get a vehicle or don't want to put a vehicle.
you could do this with in 5 years. As micro turbines that can burn JP8 and provide the power needed and be small enough already exist. A single tank of fuel could provide hours of endurance if paired with a small battery. so the turbine can be switched off during lower power times. Like when the heavy weapons team is sitting in their position.
>When it comes to armor, first off I wouldn't run more armor than you can comfortably wear already as the thing could still lose power at an inopportune moment.
Simply make the additional armor able to quickly detach, similar to how they have the quick detach for current vests when soldiers need medical attention.
>Besides that, it's just as hot and bulky
If they can double the weight that soldiers can carry, I'm sure that they would use a couple pounds on a climate control system, they already have something similar for soldiers who sit in armored vehicles.
>Also wearing a facemask still sucks and the exoskeleton supports you either at the legs or at the legs and arms, but not the neck, so it's not going to make any less when it comes to armored helmets and faceplates.
I remember seeing something a while back that supported the soldiers helmet on their back and still allowed for a full range of head motion so that soldiers could carry heavy helmets.
>saboted armor piercing small arms munitions are going to get a lot more popular.
Saboted ammunition and battle rifles, currently the US military has armor that can stop tungsten core 7.62x51mm (M993 if you are interested) but it isn't worth the extra weight to issue it to soldiers. Only problem is that saboted ammunition is crazy expensive ($3-$4 per round, regular tungsten core 7.62x51mm M993 costs the government $2.61 per round), is normally less accurate, and can't be used with muzzle brakes (due to the possibility of getting caught in them). Who knows, poorer countries might resort to issuing larger caliber conventional AP ammunition due to cost.
That would have to be a deep fucking pit, they would probably have to tie a rope to the guy and have other guys pull him out.
>If they can double the weight that soldiers can carry, I'm sure that they would use a couple pounds on a climate control system, they already have something similar for soldiers who sit in armored vehicles.
Here is one for soldiers that weighs 2.64 lbs and can operate for 8 hours on a single charge:
This is why everyone hates you.
Sure as shit is a lot cleaner than natural gasses and oil.
Especially since a lot of those species are being rendered extinct anyway.
By the time we have technology for good exoskeletons, we will also have the technology for even better drones.
In which case, there's no point in outfitting solders with exoskeletons, since all warfare will be with drones anyways.
>replacing infantry with drones
Yes I love wrapping technology and resources in a bow and handing them to my enemies. Oh you broke through our lines how completely unexpected well I hope my anus is lubed to your specific requirements gentlemen
7.62 doesn't penetrate any better than 5.56.
Consequently, the rational reaction to more armored troops is to spray more bullets, because it's impractical to be a perfect bulletproof cocoon, not to use bigger guns.
The other benefit of this approach is that shooting more bullets is more useful vs the unarmored, shooting bigger bullets isn't.
So expect exoskeletons to carry 40 or 50 pounds of plates, instead of 20, or 200; and expect the new upgunned weapon to be an ordinary GPMG or SAW, not an antimaterial rifle.
>solar farms destroy da insects!
>Windfarms massacre birds!
Every piece of evidence and research study says no, and turbines are moving too slow for them to get hurt you dumb shit.
Seeing as we aren't going to be confined to Earth for another century anyway, what does it matter? Once we know longer need this environment, what purpose does it serve?
Sure it looks pretty, but in the grand scheme of things the only product of Earth of any relevance is humanity.
Drones can't chat up village elders, pat kids on the head, or do any number of basic, versatile infantry tasks.
You're probably thinking, "well we'll use drones for the grunt jobs, but have humans on-site to do the human stuff" and that's where exoskeletons come in.
Unless you want to go full retard superfuture projection on me, drones lack anything close to the situational awareness of a soldier or the versatility. Without human support a drone on the ground is basically pointless and helpless.
>Ok you are standing on the streets of Iraq 2.0
> a 12 year old runs by and throws paint in your face. Wat do?
Your argument is dumb and you should feel dumb. Choose a different analogy.
>dude there's a kid running at us with a can of paint
>trip him or something idk
>probably don't see it
>if they do there's literally nothing they can do but shoot the kid
>get splattered in paint
>have no way to deal with it
>infantry has to clean up the mess anyway
Drones can talk to sandnigger village elders in a language they understand
Drones can pat sandniglets on the head in just the right way
It sound something like this;
>"hyuck hyuck look at those niggers go"
And so the west will bring peace and quiet to the whole god damn middle east.
Fucking sandmonkeys only understand violence.
>Implying an expensive drone wouldn't have panoramic optics
>Implying optics aren't protected and equipped with wipers and sprayers
>Implying that optics are the only sensor system that can be equipped
I'm glad your not an engineer. The level of creativity you possess would find you out of a job in any field.
Just so you know i think completely replacing infantry units with drones is a dumb idea too, but your argument against them is terrible.
>replying to myself
You can even expand this. No reason to stop there. Every sandnigger in east durkafuck can tell their children and wives to tip over, block, dismantle, throw shit on and generally fuck with any piece of western dogshit they see. What the fuck are you going to do about it? Nothing because killing unarmed women and children to save bolts and wires is political suicide.
>I think your argument is dumb because my assumptions aren't based on any reality that exists
dem panoramic views, dem wipers
Oh what's that you say we should make them higher tech and more expensive? Great idea. The durkastan tech market will love it.
How are you gonna process all the hydrogen or fissionable/fusible material or whatever the hell future energy source we'll be using to get off the planet?
Environment be damned, it's still much easier to develop these technologies while we still have all this free easy energy available in the ground instead of once it's finally depleted.
Not to mention producing plastics/composites/etc is often simpler via refining existing hydrocarbon stock rather than building it from the ground up or from biological processes/materials.
A kg of polonium-210 also costs as much as the tank itself and can't be switched off. No amount of thermal camoflage is going to hide 140 kW thermal.
Also, RTGs aren't that efficient and that 140kW is only 190 horsepower, not much for a tank to work off, even if you have 100% efficient conversion. Finally, that will decrease as you progress along the half life so you'd need double that to even reach 138 days and that would be fresh isotope, imagine the logistics of making that abominable amount of radioisotope for all your tanks and getting it to the front line.
>7.62 doesn't penetrate any better than 5.56.
False, 7.62x51mm M993 tungsten core will penetrate 17mm of RHA while 5.56x45mm M995 tungsten core will only penetrate 12mm of RHA (similar to the 10.7mm of .30-06 M2 AP steel core).
>hold still while I shoot you in the same place repeatedly
Unlikely, more likely would be what these posters here: >>22859124 and here: >>22859492 were saying, battle rifles firing saboted armor piercing bullets, keep in mind the the current Lockheed Martin HULC allows soldiers to sprint at 10 MPH while carrying 200 lbs of gear, so soldiers in powered exoskeletons are going to be quite mobile, not clumsily shambling around the battlefield.
This, forklifts would be much more convenient than power loaders, some people don't realize that forklifts drive around with loads a lot, and walking more than 100 yards or more in a power loader would be much less convenient than driving the same distance in a forklift, not to mention you wouldn't be able to carry as large of a load as you wouldn't be able to turn your body slightly to look behind while walking backwards you as easily as on a forklift. I also don't see it doing much better in small spaces than a standing drive forklift. Only thing I see replacing forklifts is self driving forklifts.
>all imaging sensors use light
>not 3d mapping that doesn't require optics
Supposedly the moons of Jupiter and Saturn are several times richer in any element we could possibly need. We're really fortunate to have been born into such a loaded solar system, we don't really need Earth at all once we start colonizing other moons and planets and constructing free space colonies.
get 5 guys in exoskeletons. each one carries a big ammo can of .50bmg or linked 40mm grendaes on their back. They all have M4s mounted to a forearm. One guy carries the tripod. one guy carries the weapon. one guy carries spare barrels(m2 only). one guy carries a shovel and sand bags.
You now have a mobile heavy weapons team that is faster then guys on foot and can get to places you can't/won't put a vehicle.
>Thread is surrounded by Edge of Tomorrow
You'd have to reinforce basically the entire human body to prevent these over torqued limbs from wrenching themselves loose or kinking your spinal column into a pile of spaghetti.
And enjoy consuming 20,000 calories per day to feed these limbs, so you'd have to have a new digestive system too, one that is much more efficient. This is before we go into the psychological effects this would likely cause.
Tl;dr ur a faget
>same actor from District 9
>he's also South African in Elysium
>Elysium takes place around 2100, after the events portrayed in District 9
>aliens promise to turn Wikis back to human form, but plan is foiled and the alien mothership leaves
>years, possibly decades pass before the alien mothership returns to pick Wikis up to bring him to their home planet to be healed
>wife has moved on and died before Wikis is turned human again due to time spent waiting and possibly due to space travel at or near light speed
>aliens return Wikis to the state he was in before the transformation (late 20's, early 30's) possibly ages at a reduced rate due to treatment
>still infamous, Wikis moves to America and changes his name
>in Elysium Kruger is violent and angry, perhaps because being an alien altered his psyche, or he is just pissed his family moved on and he outlived them
>some alien tech knowledge is gained, allowing earth to build Elysium, robots, and weapons seen in Elysium
>mfw Wikis and Kruger are the same fucking person
I read an article (can't remember who published it) that said that there's a ton of plastic, sulfur, carbon and other useful materials on Callisto, Europa, Ganymede and Io, and that the methane oceans and helium lakes on Titan and Enceladus can be used for fuel and whatnot.
This could be plausible but would he just have tried to visit his wife and even send a message to her though time?
for some reason, i can see these being used for load toads... "sure i'll move that 1,000 pound bunker buster."
He did "visit" his wife when he was an alien he made those little trash trinkets and left them for her. He probably wouldn't want his wife to see him as an alien.
As far as the relativity is concerned, depending on how fast the alien ship traveled, what may have been a week for Wikis may have been decades on earth. Perhaps he wasn't aware of that, or already accepted that she had moved on before he even departed. Also I can't remember for certain if Wikis had to just go back to the mothership for treatment or to their home planet. Either way, his aging rate may have been reduced so he's still relatively young in Elysium
>>ERA on a human
It's for tactical hugs
In 500 years military will not need exoskeletons for combat roles because AI drones everywhere. No need to put human into harm way anymore. Exoskeletons have 50-100 years window to exist before AI.
watched that yesterday. Was impressed, and can definately see exoskeletons being used.
However I did cringe when Tom Cruise asked for three more "clips" of 5.56. /k/ is rubbing off on me
>AI malfunctions and limitations
>Ethical issues of machines that are as smart as humans but not given human rights
>Operating and making decisions independent of command.
>Tracking signals to controllers
>Social response to a human as compared to that of a machine
I feel like soldiers in exo suits will be like modern flame thrower carriers.
Sure they'll be scary as fuck and probably kill a shit ton of people but their life expectancies will be short due to the fact that they are so dangerous.
Other than moving equipment they're basically going to be the same thing.
Except unlike flamethrower carriers they will have much more armor than the average soldier, this anon >>22855641 talks about what the armor coverage could be like, combined with how they could run just as fast if not faster than normal soldiers (talked about multiple times in this thread with the Lockheed Martin HULC being able to sprint at 10 mph with a 200 lb load) the exo soldiers would likely have a higher life expectancy than normal soldiers.