bongland sucks

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Dumping what I have

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Thinking occupied survival here of course being in bongland i cant fight guns with rocks!

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God tier bug out bags welcome

bump for intrest

>>22707381
Don't forget air holes in the snow covered one.

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Anybody lurking at all?

>>22707455
You can asphyxiate in snow?!?!?

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Well nobodies interested ill start studying this one :(

>>22707362

bump2

>>22707481
Yup. If you ever make a snow shelter, poke a couple holes through it so you don't die in your sleep

>>22707481
How do you think most people die in avalanches?

>>22707343
I've yet to try it but a 50-50 mix of orange juice concentrate and petrol works if you're in a hurry. I know Fight Club. A few of my friends tried out the recipe with was 2/3 orange juice and they told me 50-50 worked the best. I'm assuming your using it on people, not to blow something up.

>>22707727
Never planned to be caught in an avalanche im in Wales it rains here no avalanches

>>22707811
Yeah people not machines, straight up petrol would work anyways though right?

get a .45 / 410 flare insert, alot safer.

>>22707278
Make a Sten, like the old days.

>>22707290
I've seen that before.

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>>22708683
Dont believe I have the skillset for that sadly or would have done a long time ago

bump for interest

>>22709614
You can always learn anon, also never ever transport it while loaded because if the stock is hit hard enough it will fire the gun.

>>22709614
So get it. You act like it's impossible.

>>22709614
9mm is pretty hard to get in bongistan anyway.
The only place to get it would be to loot police stations and army bases but they'll have MP5s anyway so there's no point

>>22709969
Or you know a gun store.

>>22708683
where can i acquire all the necessary parts to do this? Do i have to register it and get a serial number for it once ive built it? Does it count as a handgun or do i getslapped with a bogus SBR tax stamp even if it uses a pistol caliber? Teach me the ways of the sten, /k/

>>22710023
http://www.semiautosten.com/

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>>22709969
you can get blank ammo in 8mm & 9mm, 12guage & .22 long.
>>22709614
google luty British standard pipe 9mm smg.
or 4winds shotgun +matchhead ammo

>>22710173
Holy shit, people can get creative when they need to kill someone.

>>22709989
Its easier to find a police station or MOD base than a gun store if you live in a big city. Where's the point in building a STEN when you can loot an MP5? Start building STENs once you're armed and trade them for more guns/sexual favors

>>22709989
The problem in the UK (and many nations) is that they can't just sell you ammo without the proper permits.

Luty has some instructions on how to modify blank rounds, which could help.

>>22707494

>DIY MREs
>MREs
>MRE
>Meal Ready to Eat
>Ready to Eat

That shit is not ready to eat, the fucking brain dead retard. Meal ready to cook does not = ready to eat. If that were the case a fucking bag of rice would be an "MRE"

>>22707353
needs a grenade sump

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>>22707278

>>22710420

Saved me the breath, thanks.

>>22711053
wooden bolt on blowback gun.
LOL, tiny hand grenade.

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>>22710420

mufugga doesn't know you can eat dry ramen?

>>22711104
Overdesigned useless piece of shit that's not even concealable since it'll catch on the junk in your pockets.

>>22710420
And on top of that, it's a pretty shit meal anyway since it's just, what, ramen and saltines?

O.P here...and when shtf wouldnt trying to loot a police station be a shitty idea? I can easily acquire some 12gauge though and have some in my house anything for that?

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Is the Makarov as simple as it appears? It has always looked like it would be simple to replicate to me.

>>22711136
Enjoy dehydration when it does to your body what it does to boiling water

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>>22711241

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>>22711195
A 4 winds shotgun with a stock.

>>22711241
I've actually already made a somewhat crude device like this wont be home until tuesday to post though
Keep them coming guys stuffs golden!

>>22711287
Some blueprints? Pleasings!

>>22711271
>CLIT
I chuckled.

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>>22711195

>>22711241
Too complicated

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Dumping pics of my shotgun shell "early warning device"

>>22707839
Hello, Welshbro, where abouts are you from? Are there many muzzies in your area?

>>22711287
Crude will still put a threat down, or take a bird out of the air for dinner.

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Stick shotgun shell in the top part and when the pin is pulled out (will be attatched to trip wire IRL) the firing pin flies toward (there's a spring in the main housing) and strikes the shell.

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that's where the shell goes

>>22711394
Another welshman? Valley boy ya!

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Replace the pvc with a 4x4 block of wood with a hole bored out, and you'll have a half-assed anti personnel device.

>>22711443
Thats well made...I applaud you!

>>22707727
That's from the snow compacting around them, they can't take in a breath.

>>22711195
idk the police would probably murder you

look at "SHTF" this way: 99% of the shit that could go wrong in any developed country is weather-related. Adverse weather can't exactly be conquered with guns and knives, nor will they help much compared to actual emergency equipment like a generator, stocks of nonperishable foods, etc. You could say that you need it to "acquire" goods, but that's unreliable, not to mention illegal and will get you arrested or killed. Likewise, you could say it's for defense, but defense from what? Experience has shown that when it's shitty out, people don't do crime. It's hard to steal TVs in the middle of a flood or ice storm. Some crime may happen, but it's hardly like there'll be roving bands of brigands tearing shit up for no reason.

And because I know someone will bring it up,
>bbbut katrina
Crime during katrina was way over-reported and many of the reports were found to be false. Very little crime happened because again, it's kinda hard to do crime when just passing through the city is next to impossible. On top of things, in any other disaster, the national guard or some other relief agency will set up a LOT faster than did in katrina, providing both refugee aid and police service, assuming it's even that bad

Basically, if you're in a developed country, SHTF prep doesn't mean buy more .223.

And if you're not in a developed country, S has already HTF


>>22711203
Automatic pistols in general are really simple devices and mostly work the same. The fun stuff is in the quality of manufacturing and the various safety systems (DA/SA triggers, that weird plate shit that Glock does, etc)

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>>22711469
I love it.

Just buy a gun, I'm an Amerifat and even I know you guys can get guns. Fuck, you can get silencers easier than we can.

>>22711195
No, that's on par with the people who say that they'll just loot a gun store in shtf. You think other people wouldn't have the same idea? Get a gun, anything is better than nothing. I know you can get a gun of some kind in the UK.

>>22711309
>blueprints
>for a fucking tube and a nail

I don't think I want anyone as inept as you having a gun.

>>22711239
next time bring some water with you- sheesh.

>>22711509
You need 2 seperate safes one for gun and one for ammo...a safe place to shoot the weapon a certain distance away from roads and people...a local police man to check on these every so often and not to forget you need a reason to posses said fire arms and firearms license...to the point its just outrageous and not worth the hassle dettering everybody here from even bothering...and expensive :(

>>22711590
>WAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH PAPERWOOORRRKKKKKKK

>>22711576
So what you just flick the fucking nail? What a twat, just asking

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>>22711590

>>22711309
It's as simple as it looks. Just metal pipe and another pipe that slides inside the larger one that you can jam a shell into. Put a nail in the end cap and slam it into the back of the shell, it will set off the shell. Most metal conduit pipe will not explode from the round going off. Just test it with a rope or something before you hold onto it if you like your fingers.

>>22711601
Not so much as paperwork as having a copper poking around in my house...not a fan

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This is a good one. I don't know how common buckshot or slugs are for you fellas over there.

>>22711590
Well fuck. I thought it wasn't that bad.

>>22711637
I was wondering what the other pipe was for now I understand the design lol...yeah im not sure about losing the digits im kind of attached to them.....

>>22711637
Also, look up 4 winds on YouTube, seeing it in action makes more sense.

>>22711681
Yeah, I'm amazed it works, but I guess shot shells are low pressure enough that it works. I'd still tie it to bench and pull a rope a few times to be sure.

>>22711634
I miss young Kurt Russell.
>Tango and Cash 4 lyfe

>>22711620
Well, in most designs, it's more of a slam than a flick, but yeah, basically.

If ever I'm some kind of rebel or revolutionary leader, I'd say up front that there's no place for people like you in the new world being forged. Completely fucking inept. Holy shit. Go back to burgerland.

>>22711661
shit, as long as you don't mind port loading it you can get the job done cutting almost all the way around the plastic shell above the brass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85qdjK3FnDo

>>22711727
C'mon, not everybody grew up building shit in they're garage. People are always amazed when they find out that I can weld, that's our generation.

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>>22711727

>>22711484
or, they use up all the air.

>>22711757
Welding is one thing. Looking at a tube screwed to a piece of wood is another.

This is mag-pulls all over again.
>you are now aware that 90% of /k/ requires an ~*InfoGrafic*~ on how to duct tape a piece of string to a magazine so it can be more easily be pulled out of a tacvest (because that was totally an issue people have)

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>>22711387
>>22711443
>>22711490
So what you put this behind a door with a wire or do you stick it in the ground like a mine?

Does not look that sensitive imo
but looks cool, have you tested it?

>>22711757
I am a plumber mind but it is also 3.15am beyond brain function time ha

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>>22711309

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>>22711309

>>22711601
Go back to /b/, you insufferable douche.

>>22711860
>HELP IM TOO STUPID TO HIT A SHELL WITH A DULLED NAIL BUT IM ALSO TOO STUPID TO WRITE MY NAME ON SOME FORMS WHAT DO I DOOOOOOOOOOO

>>22709969
Im not sue I could get into my local NATO base ...

>>22711906
Two different people you bellend

>>22711915
>>22709969
Have you considered using a different cartridge?

For people who claim to love freedom and individualism so much, gun people tend to be pretty rigidly constrained by design documents, hero/idol worship and precious ~InfoGrafics~

>>22710023
If you want it to be considered a pistol, it can have no stock. If you want a rifle, stock and barrel over 16 inches, gun overall 36 inches. A rifle with a barrel under 16 inches is NFA only. semiautosten will teach you how to build it.

>>22707331
this load looks rediculously unwieldy...

having all that shit above your head is going to make the pack feel awkward.

>>22707395
this design is flawed.

the "vent holes" method of making a can-stove is less effective than simply goring out the entire center of the top can.

>>22712074

FUCKING SKIS?!

That's it, I'm done. I'm done.

I'll never be as smart as other people.

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>>22711906
> implying everyone wants their name ona ggovernment list.
> implying everyone is willing to allow the police unfettered access to their homes.

>>22712155
yeah and how dare they say I can't drive on the highway without a license, MY RIGHTS, JOHN LOCKE, E N L I G H T E N M E N TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

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>>22710420
have you ever eaten an MRE before?

they contain shit like oatmeal that requires just as much cooking as ramen noodles.

this isn't to say that the MRE's you're criticizing aren't shit: ramen is a terrible food that's not worth its weight in nutrients.

>>22712200
I actually have. Canadian IMPs.

They do not require cooking, and even the couscous/rice/whatever packets that DO require hot water are not the main course. The main courses never, ever require cooking. It's nice to make them hot, but they can be eaten cold just fine.

the only thing that requires "cooking" are the rice/couscous side dishes, and I'm not even sure if they're not just dehydrated or actually require cooking or what since I gave mine to a buddy because fuck that noise

>>22711802
If you look at >>22711490 you can see two holes in the main housing. These are for nails so you can mount it in the ground/ on a tree/ on a wall stud.
What do mean by sensitive, like the sensitivity of the pin?


I have't tested it yet... 2 scurred

>>22712194
weird.

last time I made one with little vent holes in the center, it was complete fail. had to gore out the center entirely to make it work...

>>22712289
well, if we want to get picky with shit, bear in mind that the spam single provides more calories than the noodle pack and is far more of a main course than the noodles.

it's no different than a real MRE...other than the fact that ramen is shit food that is literally as valuable as cardboard in terms of nutrition.

>>22712347
>bear in mind that the spam single provides more calories than the noodle pack and is far more of a main course than the noodles.
bear in mind that spam is horrible shit not worthy of being fed to dogs

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>>22712249
This will kill you.

>>22710208
They're not people, they're germans. They're the McGyvers of engineering

>>22712396
...Why would I be trying to make bleach from something decidedly less prolific than bleach?

Bleach is way easier to find than "pool shock"

>> 22712380
It most certainly will not.
http://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/drinking/travel/emergency_disinfection.html

>>22712449
Bleach has a shelf life and is bulky.
Pool shock will last indefinitely as long as it's kept cool and dry and takes up far less space.

>>22712449
Because right now you can go to the store and buy 5 pounds of it for $10.00, which would treat THOUSANDS of gallons of water, while taking up no space in your basement.
If you were setting up your SHTF prep, would it make more sense to store thousands of gallons of water, or one bottle of treatment?

>>22712486
>shelf life
Yeah, a shelf life far longer than I plan to use it for. Shit, what use does it even have besides as a cleaning agent? Water treatment? I can just boil my water instead, or use filters.

>>22712530
Probably a stove and combustible stock so I can just boil it instead. Yikes. Maybe use all that bleach space to set up, I dunno, a little aquaponics setup as a 1st stage filter before I run it through a better one and boil it instead of drinking silty chlorine.

>>22712380
Will it?

>>22712591
This. el cheapo water filters are so prevalent now. you probably have one in your kitchen, a water bottle, a dispenser. If your refrigerator has a water dispenser built in, there is a filter, usually near the floor.

>>22712611
No.
How do you think every major municipal center in the western world treats its water?

>>22712640
My city uses mechanical filters, actually.

>>22712380
Actually very small amounts of bleach in water is technically safe.
Technically.
Doesn't mean its a good idea to use often.
Filters are cheap in this day and age.

>>22711138
it seems to have a use or two, have you drawn any plans for a better design?

>>22712690
No, sorry I haven't felt the need to draw up a plan for a spring loaded nail that hits a round when you release a trigger. I felt it was simple enough that it couldn't be fucked up. Looks like I was wrong after seeing your work!

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>>22712630
I bought this at walmart for about $30.00. I keep it in my B.O.B. It's advertised as being good for 100,000 gallons.
I also bought a bottle of pool shock, and a different water filter. You never know what circumstances will be, or what will break.
I think a $10.00 backup is a worthwhile investment.

>>22711486
I agree with you about how its not necessary for everyone to be getting wet dreams about killing some chinese/russian/N. Korean paratroop or even some basic rioters/looters and that its better to have a bug-in bag due to most emergencies being nature related

but a handgun or rifle is pretty nice to have if a ferguson^10 happens (major rioting) and you need to defend your self.

>>22712690
just looking at this design:

if you have the ability and tools to make this shitpistol, you have the ability and tools to start turning out lutys.

>>22712611
if you go over the top and use too much bleach, it could kill you over prolonged use.

>>22712717
I bought 5 of those fuckers online, they're glorious.
I go hiking around lakes and use it them pretty often. Saves carrying a ton of water and it's delicious.

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There's this dude on youtube who makes improvised weapons out of stuff you can buy in duty free shops, after getting security screened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsem22DkIjw

>>22712611
Ideally you would let it sit for a day or so to allow the chlorine to evaporate off but yes you might get some damage if you overbleach and drink it solely.

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>>22712867
Bolt's too light. It would quite literally explode in your hands.

>>22712959
:^)

>>22712985
>bolt
>explode
>due to being light
huehuehue

>>22712985
not if you can make your loads and underpower them

which really, if youre making diy guns, youre probably also reloading your brass

>>22712895
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsem22DkIjw
Perfect for when you want to remove your hands and bleed out just before airport security arrive.

>>22712194
What was the paper thing he put into the bottom of the can?

>>22713566
Cotton padding. Like flattened cotton balls except padding. May or may not be soaked in vaseline

>>22711375
>Hecho en Switzerland
gets me every time

>>22707466
that shit is slow as fuck

>>22713643
It's for drinking not taking a shower.
You probably think hot water isn't a luxury.

>>22712373
Man, have you never eaten some rice, eggs and spam? That shit is the fucking best camp food.

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>>22713411
>MFW seeing the rest of this guys videos...

I dont know who this guy is, but they are never letting him on another airplane again. But on the bright side if the happening ever happens while I am sitting around waiting for my plane to roll up.....i'm heading to the concession stand and walking out like rambo.

>>22712600
Could've used a bigger padlock, but that chain looks pretty hefty.

>>22707315

That is dangerous as FUCK and I would not even want to try that due to fears of it going off while making it thank god I am a law abiding citizen.

>>22714730
Op here back again
Funnily enough i used the same style detonator for said pipe bomb lol

>>22711090
I think that's a zip gun, dude. It's only a bit less dumb but...

>>22717290
A wooden dowel is fine for a .22. I wouldn't want that for anything bigger, though.
Also, bumping a dying thread. I love improvised weapons/infographs

>>22718588
Dude, it's a blow back gun.
The bolt will open way too fast and there will be high velocity brass shards everywhere.

>>22714103
dont forget the kimchi

>>22713608
>>22713566
Just any ol' fibrous tissue, that soaks up the fuel you put in and gives more surface area to generate vapour

a lot of the designs I see call for fibreglass insulation

>>22712434
McGyver was the McGyver of engineering

>>22707278

Bump.jpg

>>22718890
so if he put a stiff spring behind the wooden bolt that would (hopefully) PREVENT THE BOLT OPENING TOO FAST.?

i dont understand why the brass would explode though, wouldnt you just get alot of hot gas blown back into your face if the bolt opened too fast?

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>>22718890
I agree that would happen with a stronger cartridge, but with a spring that's strong enough to fire the round, I just don't see it happening with a .22

>>22707278
Well if you don't have a gun license or even a blackpowder (explosives license) then if it comes to the point where you want to make a musket/blunderbuss then use pyrodex. It's not regulated since it's a "propellant". Will work as well we gunpowder. Near enough. Very corrosive though

>>22712164
Is this real life?

>>22712657
Many do...though most also use some sort of chemical or UV filtration at some point.

>>22721479
>.410 wax slug goes steel plate ate 100 yards
Why the fuck have people, including /k/, said wax slugs are good for HD? That shit will over-penetrate like hell.

Or is that pic bullshit?

>>22724382
it may well penetrate steel

However, the benefit of wax slugs is that they penetrate the first barrier they encounter very well and then expand rapidly after penetrating that first target.

The result is a slug that fucks up what you aim at and then turns to birdshot when it exits


here's a good demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InbyFtvHilM

http://uscrow.org/2014/09/05/make-shotgun-grenade/

>>22712373
You take that the fuck back

>>22711353
complicated and difficult to find...
C.L.I.T. sounds like an appropriate name.