Does this sound like a terrible, or illegal idea for use in warfare:
Say, for example, we were fighting against IS or HAMAS, would it be an efficient method of trying to take control by launching smoke grenades filled with concrentrated hash oil?
I feel I am having a hard time describing it, but in my head that seems like a very humane way of seizing control of a situation. I'd venture to say most terrorists like that stray away from substances like THC, due to religious conflict.
Inhaling a lungs worth of some thick hash oil smoke would pretty much subdue the target in a matter of minutes, to the point of no end.
What are your thoughts? dumb? maybe it would work? Is it considered chemical warfare?
Nono, thats a terrible idea.
They will eventually come to crave it, and make rallys just to get doused in it and have a good time.
Then we have to spend all that money on weed to keep our new pets at bay......
wait so what was wrong about it?
>The police have encircled town center and have begun getting everyone stoned.
>While the city mayor that is always behind the times had harsh words for the tactics, the local eateries made a generous donation to local law enforcement.
All those guys screaming hail Allah, death to America, death to Christians, etc etc blah blah inhaling that shit would be on a whole other level, and whoever was infiltrating could easily take over. I honestly see it as the quickest way to deter terrorism, as you'd be given a huge time span with which to hunt down and take care of any problems.
But seriously, I wish someone would do this.
It really does feel entirely different when you actually get it.
And getting way too high is incapacitating. That would not be a bad idea for a non-lethal method of pacifying an opponent.
This one time I did two huge waterfall bongs and then half of another one my buddy couldn't finish.
I was literally glued to a chair for about an hour, and then I puked my guts out in the sink and passed out for about 13 hours straight.
So yeah, I think it would be pretty effective.
However, I have another buddy who consistently claims it does nothing, despite having smoked it several times.
Personally, I think some airborne inhalant derivative of LSD would be the most effective.
>LSD bombs everywhere
>rioters freak the fuck out
>freak out lasts a solid 12 hours
>those without permanent mental damage spread rumors of 10 foot tall robotic soldiers who breath fire and shoot lasers out of their fingertips
if this were to ever come to fruition, I would gladly sacrifice time for uh... research purposes...
>Cropdusting a crowd of pissed off ISIS fighters with LSD
>Best Idea. Ever.
At least they'd get to see Allah with their own eyes before they behead eachother in an acid fueled rage, or get JDAM'd by an F-18 while strung out in the back of their technicals, staring at the sun.
it's a shit tier idea considering that:
1. it won't fully incapacitate the enemy
2. it can be negated with a standard gas mask, even a shitty carpenter’s mask
it would only work against targets like protestors, but even then it's shit compared to normal tear gas
I think police should use thc smoke bombs. Everyone would be fucking with them just so they launch one at them. Also, it wouldn't be super effective, as you can still fight while stoned. But if they inhaled so much they pass out, even better
In the case we're taking this idea seriously
1. Rounds would be expensive - concentrated hash oil is relatively expensive and you'd need a lot of it -
you need your targets to actually breathe it in and at a relatively high amount (high compared to tear gas, for instance) so yeah, expensive
2. It would require a specially designed round - again, expensive
3. Muslims would consider it justifiable to go through the smoke in order to wage jihad, you're not going to discourage them by doing this - at least not in the religious aspect
4. Assuming you're actually talking about combat and not some riot/demonstration - this would not be preferable to using an actual bomb
Now, I think I have a better idea and that's dropping a bunch of fentanyl based gas - like the type used in the Moscow theater - and tying them down naked in couples, 69ing
Imagine being a badass jihadi twitter warrior and suddenly your buddies find you tied down naked with a dick in your mouth, you will never be taken seriously again and as an honor abiding Muslim you might possibly have to kill every person who witnessed it.
I mean think about - it's not even something they can boast about or twist to their favor - their brave jihadi warriors were found with dicks, in their fucking mouths - there is no possible way you can gain sympathy for that - I mean, the world would probably find that fucking hilarious, blaming the US for war-crimes is pretty much retarded nevermind pointless and pretending it didn't happen will make it awkward if the US ever leaks photos to the media
Yeah you can also get married to a girl for an hour or two so you can fuck her than get a divorce. These people aren't nearly as hollier than thou as they often appear.
I've seen these bellends stumbling about just like anyone else plenty of times - I guess the enforcement of such things is largely regional.
just typed in military smoke grenade, saw that in hopes it would get the point across
considering a surprise would eliminate them being able to get to them in time!
It wouldn't, but it would disorient them. have you ever smoked waaaay too much weed and kinda incapacitated yourself?
I meant to say vape, as too high of a temp would just destroy the active chemicals. good point.
depends, as everyone is different. Did you ever hear about the police officer who thought he was dying / dead after eating those pot cookies? he called himself in freaking the F out. I don't see what the difference here would be
Someone please archive this! I'm dying of laughter at how stupid but smart this idea is.
I never claimed them to be anything more than just human beings like you and I, but yes under Sharia Law they have some fucked up ideologies, no drugs being one of them, so i can see them not having a tolerance to such an attack.
Fentanyl would be a pretty awesome idea.
My whole point was to try and consume as large of a crowd as you could with utter confusion (hopefully lasting for hours upon end), allowing teams to come in and sweep the place or let them just fight themselves to death. Smoke out a whole military base and blast them one by one as they come out, or just start making your way in. This was just an idea I have been thinking about for a couple weeks and i realized what better place to get this question off my chest than here
Not really implying they are the same, but they do run on the same principle of terror? death to anyone who will not convert and obey?
Im not the most knowledgeable on the whole subject in the middle east, but I do like to read up on it. They certainly don't seem like people to befriend.
>My whole point was to try and consume as large of a crowd as you could with utter confusion (hopefully lasting for hours upon end), allowing teams to come in and sweep the place or let them just fight themselves to death. Smoke out a whole military base and blast them one by one as they come out, or just start making your way in. This was just an idea I have been thinking about for a couple weeks and i realized what better place to get this question off my chest than here
It's just that it isn't too effective beyond the whole humor of forcing sandniggers to smoke ganja
you want to drive them out without harming them - CS gas works great for that
you want to harm them - just bomb them with actual artillery/airstrikes
And those are just the conventional means - don't forget that once you've decided you're going to allow the usage of chemical weapons (yes, this would count as chemical weaponry) you might as well use more potent, specially designed and already existing materials.
True, I guess if it is going to by classified as chemical warfare, might as well use something that is more efficient all around. I understand tear gas would work, and now that I think of it (Ive never experienced it), my guess is it does last awhile. I just thought it would be funny to walk into a room of jihadi's blazed out of their minds not knowing what the fuck is going on.
>Not really implying they are the same, but they do run on the same principle of terror? death to anyone who will not convert and obey?
Hamas does execute, but mainly for political reasons, not religious
if we were to dumb it down
Hamas is a terror organization fueled by religion
ISIS is a religious organization fueled by terror
>bottle rocket enthusiasts
Have you ever smoked medical grade concentrate for the first time? I imagine it being sorta similar to my first time smoking a blunt with some decent chronic. I went and saw tunnel vision for like 3 hours
>would it be an efficient method of trying to take control by launching smoke grenades filled with concrentrated hash oil?
Technically chemical warfare, especially if some idiot pukes and chokes on it.
True, the properties of the high from dabbing is different than that of a sativa or indica strain (less compounds being inhaled). But if you can remember the first time you dabbed, weren't you just amazed at how baked you got (even when you thought your tolerance was high)?
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in any case it'd probably be classed as a riot control agent and not used because it is indiscriminate, expensive and kinda lame compared to the alternatives
also they already tried this with LSD
Thank fuck my state allows medical dope and guns at the same time.
>420 BLAZE IT FAGGOTS!!!
I smoked a few times and think it should be legal, but not everyone should smoke it. Last time I chilled with my cousin and we smoked all he talked about is wanting to stab people and after a while he just started throwing everything he could get his hands on at his garage door. Not everyone should smoke.
Yeah I've had to deal with a few people puking or having anxiety attacks but that the worst of it.
>totally still on topic
YES! very intense. Imagine combating your opponent who can barely function visually and mentally. they'd be screaming for Allah and fucking up all over the place. not to mention friendly fire would probably be present as well
Gaseous LSD would be too easily dispersed in air to deliver an effective dose. Plus it would denature very rapidly thanks to LSD's fragile nature when exposed to sunlight.
It would be more effective to spray a crowd with liquid LSD. Unfortunately, either method would be extremely cost-ineffective as LSD is very expensive to manufacture.
THC is cheap because it comes from a plant that grows everywhere and can be farmed en masse. LSA would be cheaper as it can be extracted from morning glory.
Entrapment, you would be facing a civil rights lawsuit the size of Manhattan if you tried.
>get entire russian army high on PCP
Jesus Christ this entire thread screams day/k/are. Take this shit back to deaglenation.
lol, omg, reminds me of this time the british government sent a bunch of degenerate rebels a whole shit tonne of booze so that the raid the SAS were going to pull the next day would have minimal casualties.
Retarded idea, if you want to get a bunch of protesters drugged up (moronic idea but let's just assume) then some fire hoses spraying some drug like LSD would be better. Of course you could just use regular fire hoses shooting water to accomplish the same thing.
>have you ever smoked waaaay too much weed and kinda incapacitated yourself?
Of course not because I'm not a degenerate retard.
weed has steadily gained popularity with the general population. Night /k/ loves ATF, and those threads already have people who don't drink or smoke cigarettes but smoke weed. Can't beat em, join em.
Try to get them high, on American marijuana which is much weeker than the hash and opium they regularly smoke. Try shooting a couple gas grenades like that at them and they wont get stoned. but you will get Stoned, with stones.
>He thinks marijuana inhibits your mental activity
You would probably find that your enemy would become dug in even more so.
Either that, or they would suddenly realize that killing for peace is pointless and the fight would end peacefully.
>I was gonna suicide bomb
>before I got high
>gonna bring them with me in tomb
>but then I got high
>there'll be no virgins for me
>and I know why
>because I got high, because I got high, because I got high
I don't think you understand quite was hash is, my friend. Hash will always be stronger than any weed whether its been grown in a closet or by a professional in a business setting.
>Plus it would denature very rapidly thanks to LSD's fragile nature when exposed to sunlight.
How do you invade the sun? Do it at night.
>either method would be extremely cost-ineffective as LSD is very expensive to manufacture.
Only because it's as banned as banned can possibly be and the precursors are extremely hard to get. If governments decided to make it industrially, it wouldn't be that expensive.
I've heard of green being laced with PCP or other drugs at times. That could have been the problem if the dealer wasn't exactly trustworthy or had shitty connections. Could have been a legal high though, if it smelt kind of odd, like burnt plastic and weed burning in a joint then it could have been something like Magic Dragon, El Diablo, Herbal, etc. Locally we have people known as "Herbal heads" because they've been using legals for a while and it fucked them up in the head, for example they get extremely irritable and violent over the smallest things.
/k/ I have an idea. What if we make a bomb that explodes like a fuel air bomb. But instead of filling it with liquid explosive (don't know the name), we [spoiler]fill em with pig blood[/spoiler]. [spoiler]Those IS guys will kill themselves after touching anything pork-related[/spoiler]
It's a different high in a way that cannot be adequately explained, only experienced.
If you showed someone how to shoot a rifle for the first time and they became deterred by noise/recoil, and they wanted to never shoot again, would you want that? No. You would want them to learn to get used to it.
>not living in based Washington where it's legal on a recreational level and sold in retail stores
But it's like toplel$20-30grams and usually sold out as the state has been very slow to license growers but hey it's a step in the right direction IMO, and as for price, as it's legal...