GUYS, GUYS! Idea! A gun, that can, get this, shoot EVERY CALIBER!!!!!
So 7.62 AND 5.45
>idea guy
>>34753209
So an artillery piece with a selection of interchangeable barrels, barrel inserts, feed mechanisms/ mag wells and firing mechanisms?
Fund it!!!
>>34773993
What's the beat gun I can get for roughly $310.49?
My S&W SD40VE was $309 out the door with a box of ammo.
LEO surplus Gen 3 Glock 22's on aimsurplus for $309
>>34753199
A "previously owned" Glock just like this one, plus a few hundred rounds of ammo and a holster.
I know this $310.49 thing has become a meme that /k/ won't let die, but it's also interesting that it's such a big deal when someone finds a new gun at something less than the "established" sticker price. The used gun market is full of really good guns at 50% of their new price point.
I've just learned to stay away from pawn shops, where a used gun generally sells for right at its lower-end price brand new...and they paid some hard-up schmuck 1/3 of that.
Would .22Magnum make a good self defense round coming out of a rifle?
Its power is equivalent to the 9mm, with over 1800fps for a 40 grain projectile. And while most people say that 9mm is more than good enough you get frowned upon when you mention .22 magnum.
Is it because all .22s are compared to .22lr which has half the power of the .22magnum?
>>34752893
Good? Yes.
Just remember, there is good, better, best.
Side note, not /k/ related: everybody knows a certain pizza place that serves you less than best ingredients.
But .22 mag or .22 hornet?
Come on, dude, why when there are so many other better rounds?
>>34752893
Rim fire reliability is why. Also, it's thinner than a 9mm is to a 45
Bruh it's most certainly not equivalent to 9mm, also, keep in mind that these numbers are out of a 118mm barrel.
So I ordered a Savage MSR-15 Patrol off Buds for $506 with free shipping. Now I see on the same website that buds is selling the same rifle for $611 also. I checked other online stores and see more in the 600 range? Can anyone explain why this is?
>>34752841
Buds likes to fuck with the pricing of their guns for no reason. I think it's an automated system. When a gun doesn't get much interest in a while, the price falls, but when page views increase, the price goes back up to what it was previously.
I was looking at a Sig M11-A1 one night a few weeks ago thinking that I might buy it with the proceeds of selling a gun not too long before that. The following morning when I refreshed the page, credit card in hand, the price had been jacked up by $50 for no reason. It just turned me off the sale and I ended up not buying it. Even when they are consistent with their prices, the "cash only" price adds a full week of processing time to the already lengthy 3-4 days processing time. It's really annoying when they advertise that you're getting 1-2 day shipping. If you pay with an ACH e-check, don't expect your gun for at least two weeks.
Assume you have a small fireteam, 4-6 guys who are mercenaries or skilled persons of some sort.
Design a bag you would you outfit them with for an absolute SHTF scenario.
I dont mean just a regular civilian-trying-to-get-away style bug out bag, although I'm sure some of it will be the same. But I mean give these operators everything they need down to a p51 can opener to survive indefinitely in a hostile shtf environment and remain combat effective.
>Assume water and food are available through foraging/hunting. no need for 40000 MREs
>only what they can carry on their persons and maybe 1 vehicle.
What do you think /k?
>>34752792
Large ALICE packs
let them decide what they need.
>tourist's delight x 40 tins
>exact same clothes as me
>copies of my id, with exact same wallets as me
>shaved heads, like mine
>>34752792
Impossible to give them enough.
The thing about supply is that from the moment you carry it (whatever it may be) you start losing it. Sure you could classify gear into consumables vs. non-consumables but it still means that eventually you will run out of the basic shit you need (medical supplies, rations, toiletries, electronics, incidentals, to say nothing of ammunition which is just about the heaviest thing you'll carry alltogether). While some of this shit might seem superfluous; try going without it when you absolutely need it.
While there are certainly stories of people "surviving" for long periods by themselves, this rarely takes place in combat situations. Even for special forces, there's still a logistical chain and they get restocked on the shit their using.
That brings me to my next point. If your guys are busy foraging/hunting/surviving, then their not out kicking ass or taking names. Sure they can still cause trouble but, their effectiveness will be severely reduced because of the extra time spent not dying. In a SHTF scenario that involved potential combat, you could expend 2,000-3,000 calories. You'd have to forage constantly, trap animals, and hunt so much just to be able to keep up or function in a life/death situation. Rations can reduce this effect but you'll run out of that eventually.
In order to design the bag, you must design the mission to the letter; Area of Operations, Timeframe, Victory conditions, RoE, Terrain Homework, Field Guide etc.
There is no one size fits all, that's just fantasy.
In a SHTF, even 4-6 guys will probably need at least 8-10 people backing them up logistically (hunting, foraging, growing, cooking, cleaning, fixing, etc). They will need to be resupplied on near constant basis and not meeting that resupply will result in FUBAR situations.
Even the smallest army marches on its stomach.
What's the most historically accurate western in terms of the weapons portrayed?
>>34752786
pretty sure Tombstone is correct.
The Outlaw Josey Wales
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Outlaw_Josey_Wales,_The
>>34752821
Truly the best Western
That's a Double Lung Meat Target
>>34752749
The best simulant for a human body is a live hog. Sorry, PETA.
Of course, you can also look at coroner reports where the caliber was known.
>>34752777
trips of truth
Aww I remember our medics keeping their patients alive all day, good guys.
could modified sports safety equipment be bullet proof? also I want to learn more about improvised weapons and armor
So you got the new alien protection job at NASA, (yes I know what it's really about)
What alien weapons should you be prepared to defend against?
What can we dream up to help NASA be ready for ayy ya.
Personally I think orbital bombardment with space rocks is the most cost effective choice for E.T.
>>34752483
Not really. This is wh40k thing, but the point still stands - if you have capabilities to change orbits of asteroids, you also most probably have capabilities to just nuke the fucking place to hell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd-ZPo-SjcY
Why did the stoner fail to get adopted? Was it just a bad design?
>>34752413
I've heard it had a few issues at its inception. But I knew weight was a factor.
>>34752413
>heavy
>complex
>maintenance queen
>partially a victim of the same old army fucks who hated .223
>expensive
>not really better than an M16 and not durable enough to be an LMG, a role filled by the M249 like 15 years later
Also, starting this thread with an anthro image was a mistake. And the artist should have traced the weapon instead of shopping it.
It had mechanical issues, though these weren't a big deal for its end users who took greater care of their guns than the average draftee. The biggest issue it faced was being tied to Eugene Stoner, who was a legitimate aspie who made some of the most recognizable and important designs in history, but was unable to make success of them himself. He was the firearms equivalent of box office poison.
PLEASE SOMEONE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SEED THE TORRENT THERE'S LIKE 20 PEOPLE WAITING AT 96% PLEASE BUMP
Just grab it from the ark.
bruh we really need that seed for the document
>>34752395
thx
They are fucking everywhere, and no one is going to piss and moan about you smoking a few of them. I just bought a Ruger American rimfire and I want to do this so badly.
>>34773894
They tried that, it was called the holocaust.
>>34773894
What optics is that
>>34773894
Snake, is killing rats really that fun? Torturing small animals is a
sign of a warped mind, you know.
/k/ can you tell what rifle this is just from this crappy picture?
m1903?