a thread for all things artillery
>be me browsing /k/
>occasional fudd or hipster insisting "muh steel framed and/or hammer fired gun is best/preferable" or "5.56 is too weak we need muh 6.8 or 7.62 to reach out and touch someone."
>understand that for some people progress is lost upon these few outliers
>recently sig p320 adotoption/drop safety issues happened as well as army requests for 7.62 battle rifle
>now all these additional luddites come crawling out of the woodwork from nowhere saying how striker fired polymer handguns and 5.56 are garbage and that we should literally go back in time over half a century in military procurement progress
What the fuck is going on?
>waaaaah people disagree with me
KYS buddy.
1911 and m14 new US Army standard issue confirmed, millenial nu-/k/ btfo
>>34816173
Dem tiddys. I need moar!
Back when the F-14 and AIM-54 were being used, carrier groups could rely on them for anti-air defense. The AIM-54's range was about 100 nmi, on top of the F-14's combat range (500 nmi).
Nowadays they rely on the AEGIS system, that uses ship-launched missiles with a range of about 100 nmi. Also it seems to me that the maximum amount of missiles that the AEGIS system can dispense out of a single carrier group is much lower than what an F14 squadron could.
Am I looking at this wrong? It seems like the USN lost both range and ammo capacity when it comes to carrier group defense.
>>34816083
>AIM-54
The AIM-54 was of questionable quality. The vast majority ever fired in combat just fell away from the plane without lighting up. Eventually the Hornet, it's avionics and the AMRAAM came into service and outclassed it. Now with the AMRAAM-D and Meteor type weapons, we now have the same capability with a higher probability of a kill.
>>34816083
to add to
>>34816167
80's systems were notoriously slow, which is why you needed a wide enough space to react to threats. Now with Aegis, data-linking and better missiles, you can fire twice as many missile, faster and have a higher probability of killing whatever you're aiming at.
>>34816167
>>34816186
I get what you guys are saying, but why not just revamp those platforms with modern systems and reliability, instead of scrapping them for a system with less than half the range and a lower ammo capacity? No matter how good the response time becomes, having long range capability and being able to engage more targets is always good, isn't it?
Also, is the AEGIS system able to take down, say, a squad of Russian planes homing in before they are in range to fire their hyper sonic anti-ship missiles?
I have a friend of a friend with a fully functional mp40 and multiple clips, is this bad? I fell a strange presence of evil/ pride when I hold it fully loaded. Opinions?
>>34816042
This is a bait thread and we all know it.
>>34816042
>I have a friend of a friend with a fully functional mp40 and multiple clips, is this bad? I fell a strange presence of evil/ pride when I hold it fully loaded. Opinions?
Fuck off with this weird shit.
But in case you're serious: It means you're mentally unstable.
>>34816074
Is it safe to post pics?
What does everyone think? What sort of loads do you think you can get from this projectile? Highest possible fps but still safe.
Also will this sub sonic go through level 3a armor? The core is only 130 brinell so I doubt that a bit.
>>34815972
If your rifle round can't penetrate IIIa armor, why the fuck are you using it.
>>34815982
SUB SONIC
>>34815987
This. Russian and US 7.62mm are different diameter.
You're tasked with liberating your local burger joint from Communists. What weapon do you use?
>>34815145
Skoda 7.5 cm Gebirgskanone M. 15
>>34815145
Prob my tec-9
>>34815145
Common sense. Commies can't stand it.
What is the difference between a carabine and a rifle?
Is it mechanical practical, theorical or cosmetic?
Size
>>34815121
Carbines are short, rifles are long. That applies to their range as well more often than not.
>>34815121
A carbine is a generic term for a shortened form of a rifle.
The M4 carbine is a shortened M16.
>ctrl + F
>No humor thread
Is this the YLYL thread my fellow /b/ro?
There are two (2) threads about fucking deer.
Humor me, /k/. What if I used a 458 Winchester for home defense? I could use lightweight 300 grain bullets of the kind used for deer hunting with a 45-70, and I could handload them to about 2500 fps, which would give me great expansion. That ought to put an end to whole stopping power debate.
>>34814819
I suppose you don't care much for your neighbors.
>>34814846
The section density of a 300 grain .458" bullet is pretty low. Combine that with the enormous expansion caused by driving a soft lead bullet at that speed, and the chance of overpen is no more than for any other rifle.
>you will never have a cute Norwegian waifu with a 458 Win.
Why even live?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jA7To9l_jQ
how many languages does /k/ speak? because in movies, operators always speak a really obscure language. now this is mostly to americans, and veterans, but do you guys speak any bad ass languages? i mean, we spend all this time learning weapons and stuff, anyone ever buckle down on some cantonese? or some swahili? i mean just for the intimidation factor its pretty fucking cool
>>34814711
I've forgotten a shitload of German
>>34814711
i can read the cyrillic alphabet, but i don't know what the fuck the words mean. also russian grammar is caveman tier
I'm a polylinguist as it pertains to my career. My career is 0% OPERATOR though.
>Remember, if even a fraction of a square millimeter of your gun isn't oiled, it'll rust
>But also remember that over-oiling is the #1 cause of damage to guns
>Make sure to clean your gun after every use, and at least twice a year when you don't
>Keep in mind that over cleaning ruins the gun and wears out parts prematurely
>Put your gun in a safe to protect it from humidity
>But if you didn't spend $5000 on your safe it was probably made in China and is effectively a hyper-accelerated rusting chamber full of formaldehyde.
>Oh, you use [oil] because your friend used it and he's never had problems? Here's 8 forum posts about how it's basically concentrated xenomorph blood
>Have an article about how if you don't use [different oil] you're basically soaking your gun in saltwater
>What? You use [different oil]? My buddy used that and his entire safe turned into a just a dirty orange stain over the weekend.
>If you don't use a goldenrod in you're safe, you're practically begging for condensation on your guns
>Of course, it will dry out and crack all of your wood stocks.
>Make sure you put gun socks on all of your guns so they don't get dinged in your safe
>But be aware that you're basically storing your gun in a wet sponge if you do
>Make sure before putting your gun that absolutely every nook and cranny that you touched is wiped if you don't want to get a rust fingerprint
>We did mention how much over-oiling and repeatedly disassembling your gun is fucking your shit up right?
How the fuck does anyone live with this stress?
>>34814426
Over time you learn what works and you learn to filter the incredible amount of bullshit and/or OCD about it.
>>34814426
This is partly why I don't spend a ton of money on trophy guns. I got into guns about 3 years ago and I own 6 guns now. None of them cost more than $600.
I feel less stress about making sure I'm not doing anything to prematurely wear them out as I'm learning about firearms. Maybe one day I'll decide to drop some money on some super premium gun, but honestly I'm not even a good enough shooter to take full advantage of the upgrade that expensive guns afford you in terms of accuracy.
Just store your guns in a cosmoline tub and you should be good.
LGS offered me a matte S&W governor for $711
I don't really need or want it, should I buy it?
>>34814071
why
>>34814058
If you don't want it don't buy it. Just get something you do want later on.
No and you're a fucking faggot for asking
How many of you think you could hit a moving target, using a bolt action rifle, from 90 yards away, hitting at-least two out of the three shots you fired (including at-least one head shot), and do it all in 5.6 seconds?
>>34813889
I could do it blackout drunk and with one hand, 90 yards is spitting distance.
>>34813889
the shot came from the grassy knoll. back, and to the left. back, and to the left.
>>34813889
I met this ex-ranger once who told me a gov. operative took him out but who relay fucking knows anymore right?
>140K lumens
>3.4kg
>69cm (27in)
Well, /k/? Would you trust this light for HD? Perhaps other purposes?
>inb4 4 second run time
It runs for 20 minutes, which is significantly more than 99% home defense scenarios.
Source: https://www.stratusleds.com/ten/
>>34813870
Also only 1 thousand smackaroos for the fixture and the battery! wowie!
>>34813870
i realize its bait so here's your (you)
why wouldnt an intruder just shoot at the light, dumbass
>>34813870
It's a fun idea and all but a gun would be better, in pretty much all scenarios.
Anyone buy the new kid-on-the-block striker wonder 9 memegun?
I heard it's pretty good, wanted /k/'s opinion.
Great reviews, total shit talk on /k/ about QC. What's new?
>>34813679
>>34813842
>buying CZ
there's another site for your kind
>>34813859
fuck off glockfag. czechnology is superior in every way.