>.32 cal
>pocket pistol
>overly complex long recoil mechanism
>thin barrel shroud prone to squash and jam
>2mm captive pin
>no slide stop,If it jams throw it away
>no bluing
>more expensive with every passing year
>mashed up patents from multiple Austrian gun designs
>never paid royalties
>never been to engineering school
>worked in the for a bank
>sold over 200.000 guns
>most of them in military contract
>in .32
>jewish
I am sorry guys but better guns have never seen the light of day but this somehow made third most issued gun in the empire.
Joos,not even once.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guXG8Vaq-R8
>>34044031
I want one.
They look cool.
>>34044036
Can be found for 100 according to Othais but they are rare.
>>34044031
It's cute though, so that discards your opinion.
Why isn't the vz58 considered one of the best rifles of all time, way better than the AK?
>designed 1958
>short stroke piston
>striker fired
>only 6.5 pounds
>folding stock
>>34043939
>DEUS VULT
I'd love to get one even for like $950, but I don't think I can justify spending $1200 on one before FFL fees and everything else.
Damn leafs jacking up the price
>>34043955
I understand these are more popular in Canada but I just bought at Cabelas, new Century, for $629.
>http://www.nexter-group.fr/en/press/748-le-danemark-choisit-le-systeme-dartillerie-caesar-8x8
>>34043785
>contract by the Danish Defence Acquisition and Logistics Organization (DALO) for the supply of 15 (plus 6 as an option) 8x8 CAESARĀ® artillery systems to the Danish Army
>15 guns
>15
Poor choice. The danes should have gone with a tracked vehicle like the k9 thunder or the panzerhaubitze 2000.
>>34043808
>>34043810
Have you looked at a map? Denmark is small as fuck and flat as fuck.
Pic is related, it's 22/50 and 17/50 rounds.
> taht .223 round on the right
>incredulously super fast speedo bullet
Where can I buy a rifle for this, need one for hunting a very fast paranormal creaturething.
>pic related aren't very accurate or aren't fast enough
What's the speeds out of those? Surely .22 and .17 can only deal out so much damage and ballistic coefficient, surely this is wasted energy? They tryna break some record?
Also, what kinda barrel lengths we talking bout with this shit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiwXqiWl2bg
>M16 closed system is a superior design
>trust me i have watch 10 mud test and posted reddit Meme.
>>34043782
People trust those InRange autists. Wouldn't surprise me considering the fact that 95% of people on /k/ are autistic 12 year olds.
>>34043782
Funny how that rifle automatically cleaned itself after he put it in the mud.
>>34043782
i want that South African babe back
too bad Kart is a cuck
/k/ommandos, what do you think of the xr9? Bond Arms are going to release a new version soon that they have tinkered on so that it's more reliable and cheaper, and with the cool look and unique design, I am tempted. However, with the price starting at $1000 or so, and planning to just make it go down to $900, I want some info first.
Or, if you don't want to do that, unique guns and actions thread
>>34043707
$900 honestly doesn't sound like a bad MSRP, but I'm not sure why you would want to buy it unless you're rich enough for your average gun budget to be well over $1000. I guess it'd make a good CC but people will still prefer more proven designs that are only slightly bulkier.
I like my XR9-L.
I like the coating that Bond is using on the barrel to supposedly eliminate the need for the anti-seize lube.
The L is a bit less ammo picky than the S due to slightly reduced slide velocity on recoil. I don't know how the Bond will compare.
Trigger pull is quite long but smooth as snot on waxed paper. There is no stacking or a wall if you're wanting to stage the trigger though.
My biggest gripe is that it lacks a last-round-hold-open.
>>34043707
It's a solution looking for a problem
What is the most cyberpunk looking belt-fed? Preferably in serial production.
>>34043634
I don't know if that is a thing.
I want to say a PKM covered in decorative shit
MG-3
I posted this thread awhile ago and got a pretty predictable reaction. First of all, I want to preface this by saying EVERYTHING I say beyond this point is purely amateur speculation. I am not an expert, I think I've held and shot a gun like three times in my LIFE, but I have an interest in weapons and military history so I like to discuss it.
There was a development in body armor not too long ago that piqued my interest... it was called "Dragon Skin" and it was pretty amazing.
Anyway, there was a huge controversy surrounding this stuff... claims were made by and official inquiries into it's validity on the field due to problems with the epoxy holding it all together coming apart under prolonged exposure to HEAT... now several PRIVATE experiments conducted disproved this, and there is the whole matter of Murray Neal and his follow up product Dragon Skin 2 suddenly DISAPPEARING and all of the old models being RECALLED... but I'm not going to get in to that because it's conspiratorial and I've noticed /k/'s patience for anything convoluted and anti-establishment is limited at BEST, otherwise why the fascination with xenophobic racial politics and things that explode?
Indulge me for a moment. Let's assume that you could create a form of armor that followed Dragon Skin's core principals. You don't absorb the full force of the projectiles impact, you induce yaw (whatever the fuck that means) and shatter the bullet on impact.
Say what you want about the weight and the epoxy, you can pull up youtube clips of this shit taking an endless barrage of standard issue assault rifle fire from close range.
This is what I'm getting at. So what that you're a little slower? Say you're fully decked out in this crap - hell, you've even got a damn shield faced with it... carbon fiber base with an armored overlay. You've got that in one arm, and in the other you've got a carbine of some kind and you move in formation. (cont.)
>>34043441
You wouldn't HAVE to pack yourselves together shoulder to shoulder like they did in the old days making yourself an open target for explosive, but even WITH the added weight, wouldn't the ability to move through enemy fire make you more maneuverable than an unarmored target weighing less?
Could heavy infantry conceivably make a return given sufficient advances in armor?
A .50 BMG API, which is an old fucking design at this point, can pierce over an inch of hardened steel. Steel weighs 4.65 ounces/in3.
A 12x12x1" plate of steel would weigh 41.85 lbs and that's not even remotely enough to protect a person.
The amount it costs you to make strong, protective armor is significantly higher than the cost of the bullets that can pierce it. The best defense against being shot is not being shot at all.
How much do you think it'll cost to make armour that'll survive even a single hit from an 80+ year old API round?
>>34043552
Wait hold on now... check this out. This was filmed on the Discovery Channel during the early 2000's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYaSRIbPWkM&t=1s
Skip to these times so you don't have to watch it all
1:16 - 1:50
Armor piercing rounds tearing through steel, as you mentioned.
3:12 - 4:00
Firing same rounds at the Dragon Skin.... nothing.
This shit was OUT ten years ago... but it AND it's creator have since disappeared.
>plan on going shooting
>pack all my stuff up
>get everything prepared
>have something nice to eat beforehand
>look at all my shit
>decide not to go
Does anyone feel this feel?
>>34043427
>not shooting on private property
wow youre gay
>wake up every morning
>wish I hadn't
I haven't gone shooting in months. Every day is empty.
>>34043427
No. My range lets me pull my car right up to the bay that I'll be shooting in.
Kino Reeves did it again
>>34043426
>>34043426
Please tell me you have more John Wick 2 WEBMs.
[nospoiler]I'll share some of my John Wick 1 ones if you show me yours[/onkspoiler]
>>34043430
yesssssssssssssss
the story in 2 is stupid, yet it has higher ratings than 1.
So, /k/, if you ruled over a nation of your own, what kinds of weapons would you arm its military with?
>>34043386
do i have a budget?
>>34043386
Famas and nuggets
HK everything
Thoughts on him?
Furry.
His video about fantasy swords grants me lots of laughs.
>>34043371
acts like he knows everything= faggots believe him
You're sailing through the Gulf of Aden solo, from the Red Sea to Mumbai. It takes about 6 days to make it to relatively safe waters, and until then you have to watch out for Somali pirates. Your boat goes 5 knots, not enough to outrun the pirates' skiffs. What gear do you take?
a couple american-180's, one burst and they're mincemeat. even if they somehow survive, their boat will be full of tiny holes on both side so it will sink shortly after
>>34043221
Potassium-fused rocket-boosted 37mm HE grenades, and launchers.
It's a real munition out there, though I've only seen it in pdfs on unrelated things. Probably kept quiet to avoid legal issues with 37mm.
Few of these and......
So which tank had the best k/d rate in ww2? Asking for a friend
According to Burgers, the M4 Supertank
It killed 100 King Tigers for every Sherman
At the battle of Kursk, 13. Kompanie/SS-Panzer-Regiment 1, equipped with 13 Tigers, claimed that they destroyed 150 Russian tanks over the course of the battle, losing 2 tanks themselves, giving that unit a k/d ratio of 75:1, other units had different results
Those are also from German records so take it as you will, although Germany did actually underestimate it's tank kills throughout the war, in '43 they underestimated by about 27%
On the eastern front, particularly in german defensive stages, it's more than likely that either the Tiger tank or Pz. IV had the greatest kill to death ratio, on the Western front I'm not sure
Bear in mind I'm only talking about turreted tanks rather than hull mounted anti tank guns and such, perhaps Stugs or Jagdpanzers peformed well, I wouldn't know
>>34042969
this, no other tank could have destroyed 4.000.000 of these fuckers
Anyone else hunt with compound bows as well?
does this belong in weapons?
I hunt with both rifle and bow depending on tag prices/season
Bows belong in >>>/toy/ or >>>/his/ along with melee weapons, manual action firearms, crossbows, less than lethal, black powder and anything else that isn't a modern semi auto firearm.
/k/ is for not the place for discussion of archaic, useless and obsolete things. If you buy any of these YOU WILL DIE in shtf after jamal kicks your door in and you couldn't stop him with your special snowflake less lethal katana bow.
Save the money towards a AR, starting price $1k as anything below that is unreliable, cheap trash that is hardly suited for a range toy. Let alone a fighting weapon.
>>34042985
i have 4 ar's
>>34042950
I have some questions:
How precise do your arrows fly compared to your rifle?
How often do you miss-shoot and leave the game wounded but running, bow vs rifle?
What's your effective distance, again comparing the two
Why did you choose to get into bow-hunting? I assume you started with the rifle.