Kantai Collection -KanColle-

Is Shioi worth LSC?
What good is a fifth sub?

Just a daily reminder that Abukuma is cute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eutG09sgz8c

>>14660624
Don't be a statfag, get all subs because they are top cute.

>>14660635
Abukuma is cute, except her fucking voice

>>14660624
Her Seiran alone is worth it.

>>14660531
Now that you mention it, the chart is still incomplete. The anon who made it never seemed to update it.

I think i know a Air Superiority Calculator better than the one posted.

http://tsoft-web.com/sub/kancolle/air/

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Kasumi is love

Haven't played since last event and I keep getting cat bombed, which never normally happened.
Did they change something while I was gone or am I just getting unlucky?

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>>14660508

>headband
>yamato socks
>red randoseru

Reminder that you should be keeping Kasumi at K2B.

>>14660650
The fit gun chart wasn't made by us. It was taken off of this guy's twitter.

https://twitter.com/Ex_witch/status/622428240364355585

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>>14660508
>tfw prefer Kasumi red randoseru sprite
>statfag in me want to keep her at K2
What do?

>>14660744
do it for love

>>14660744
Her K2B also has new lines that the regular one doesn't have. Fucking why.

>>14660744

Well, unless Tanaka becomes the absolute madman, then for any potential future E-7 scenarios you should have access to almost all of your ships anyway, so Kasumi is unnecessary for cut-ins since you have Poi and Potatoface.

Keep her at K2B so she feels special.

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>>14660665
>>14660703
>>14660744
I want to take my daughterus to school.

>>14660659
Started playing around with it, it's pretty fancy visually.

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>>14660753
>>14660761
>>14660762
>>14660764
Good point.
I don't need that many boat with cut-in. Double attack + fumo is good enough.

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Kasumi's head is at the perfect height for headpats.

am I in /a/

>>14660744
If only K2B also had her ribbon necktie, it'd be the cherry ontop it really needs.
I'll consider it when she reaches that level eventually. I stopped at 80 before the maintenance.

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>Flagship I want to sparkle gets taiha'd at 1-1
JUST

why is army dog so pale?

>>14660808
No, you're in hell.

>>14660868
Because everyone keeps her tied up in the basement till event time.

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>>14660853
Cutesuki is too weak! That is until she gets remodeled, who even wants the other one?

>>14660901
I really hope it's Satsuki, but I won't be mad if it's Nagatsuki.

>>14660901
>until she gets remodeled

She still won't even match the average Kagerou-class Kai FP / armor.

Did Samidare get her Kai 2 yet.

>>14660972

>さみ誰

>>14661105
Nice taste

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`what do I do with Abubear?

>>14661160

permanent expedition slut

>>14661160
Permanent expedition duty and lower your game resolution.

>>14661160
permanent expedition slut, which actually means the savior of 3-2, 2-5, 3-5, every event with CLT trolling, and more. But hey, in between outdoing Jintsuu as the best surai sentai flag, yeah, she's outdoing Tenryuu, Katori, and army dog in Tokyo Express.

tl;dr you do everything.

>>14661214
>3-2
If someone didn't do it with 6DDs, you never graduated from the tutorial.

>>14661225
What kind of retarded assumptions are you making? You know the game takes you back to 3-2 countless times, right?

>>14661236
Not as many times for leveling, and that's not even requiring a CL

>>14661214

Basically, Abukami is good for whenever you can't use Jintsuu's daytime double-attack. Even then, you could argue that an opening torpedo does more consistent damage on maps like 6-3.

Of course, when it comes to rengoukantai in events, why not both?

>>14661269
>when it comes to rengoukantai in events, why not both?
Because you can only have one CL in the escort fleet, the game won't let you form a combined fleet if you have two or more.

>>14661272
I didn't mean at the same time. I'm not THAT much of a polygamist.

>not grinding 5-4 for rank
>have no AA modernization fodder at all

S-Sorry Kasumi

Does the 53cm count as a midget sub or torp? I don't think you can cut in with it so I'm just using it on orel subs.

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>>14661272
>can't take best CLs at once
Fuck combined fleet and its strict restrictions.

>>14661283
It's a torp.

>>14661286
>cant use isuzu and sendai at the same time
Kill this game potatofucker, I want to be free again.

Is anyone else getting a lot of webpage popups from kancolle asking to refresh the page? Been happening since last week and it's so annoying.

>>14661303
Me.

I wonder if it's a countermeasure for botting? Not that I could use api link instead and never receive the warning again

>>14661303
>>14661315
The one's where its something about a connection error with DMM? I get them whenever my connection blinks in and out, but usually I can ignore them and keep playing so long as the game itself doesn't error.

>>14661349
What a rare sight.

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>>14661330
This one. Turning off KCV's pinned button makes it not override your other games.

>>14661363
Press cancel, it's a connection problem. I get it whenever I forget to close KCV before turning off my computer.

>>14661370
Yea but it has been popping up non-stop for the past week and it isn't my internet's problem either.

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Holy shit, was Sakawa always this handsome?
>non plastic hair anymore
>non shit eye color
>eye shape improved
>no dumb Agano uniform
>can slightly see her lips
>doesn't look retarded
>retard face effectively gone
>much better pose, almost boner inducing
Monkeyman really is on a roll, now I wish she was fixed after seeing the promo image, maybe I'd seriously use her.

>>14661403

Fuck off, Shitkawa.

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>>14661403
Sakawa is the cutest CL

>>14661403
She looks like she just swallowed a load.
Need a shop please

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>>14661413
Here you go

>>14661403
>Actually trying too hard to praise that runt
End yourself.

plz not bully Pyan, she is good girl.

>>14661403
Sakawa is looking very cute. I want to take out all 4 Agano Class on a date.

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>>14660321
>Why do you guys block your names?
There's no use for them until the friends feature gets added, which will never happen, and there'd be a shitstorm every time someone notorious posts. In fact, if I used my name, this very post would lead to a big shitstorm over my shipfu and attention whoring.

>>14661417
>>14661414
>>14661403
They need to hurry up with her kai ni.

>>14661472
>which will never happen
It took two and a half years for Americans to be added, but Tanaka keeps his promises. We'll all be buddy buddy when the 2nd phase starts sometime in the 2020s.

reminder that you need 3 Kasumis for maximum resource gain

>>14661478

>tfw I'll be bullied for not having all memedals

I hope the friends list never comes out.

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>>14661428

>>14661472

What gimmick could they give a new CL Kai Ni?

>>14661403
>no dumb Agano uniform
I will end you

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>give Kasumi a second K2
>make it all >muh ten-go so it's clearly what she's supposed to be
>give it a much higher remodel level
>give it unique lines
>give it a unique AACI
>let it use large RADAR for FuMO and future super USN RADAR
>but then make the AACI absolutely horrible and overwrite better ones, make her lose 13 firepower compared to base K2, and make it so she can't equip the FCF like base K2 can, which has obvious implications for the upcoming event

What the fuck was Tanaka thinking?

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So uh, when's Inazuma getting her Kai Ni?

It's be a while and she deserves it!

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https://a.uguu.se/zfkcgy_Freedom_Collection_is_coming_prepare_your_ship_slo.webm

>>14661526
As dumb as Battleship was, I was enjoying the Missouri action porn.

Help me, I have an overwhelming attraction to literally who destroyers

>>14661529
I love the Akitsushima Style dodging part.

>tfw finished the one time quest with atago/takao
>need to scrap them to free up space but they're qts

what do

>>14661544

>Kept Takao because she was my first non-DD
>Had to scrap her sister
>Felt terrible

>>14661544
Scrap them and get Choukai instead.

>>14661544

Space is not that expensive and there is nothing wrong to spent money on the game that you enjoyed.

>>14661544
>scrapping ships before they get their Kai Ni

>>14660853
Drop some engines on her. That's what I do with my DD when I solo sparkle them.

>>14660508
-Next Mutsuki class kaini time is Feb.
-Please update BB fit gun image

Are like Takao class ships the most common Cruisers around or what? I keep getting them from random drops and construction all the time.
First I kept getting Atago from everywhere, so I finally let her in my main fleet.
Now I seem to be stalked by Maya.

>>14661600
They're common until you scrap and keep 0 copies. Then they'll never drop again when you need them for quest.

All the girls in DesDiv 6 are sisters right? Or are they not related just in the same division?

>>14661604

All girls of the same ship class are 'sisters'.

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>>14661613

>>14661613
>>14661670
>>14661674
I've found a new gun for Yamashiro and Fusou. Goodbye 38cm Kai.

>>14661613
>>14661670
>>14661674

>500 sample size

>>14661686
They're looking for more people to help enlarge the sample size of a wide array of tests and you're extremely welcomed to join.

Is there a map that guarantee transport kills?

I got compass fucked in 2-2 like 12 times in a row despise not having a CV(L) in fleet. Boss node every time.

>>14661707
AV lead to boss too.

>>14661707
5-4

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My dick

>>14661674
>four 41cm
Am I looking right?

where can i get more pictures of boats in cars? I have the fubuki one

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>>14660901
I want Nagatsuki.

>>14661744
[y]

>>14661496
Radiation poisoning.

>>14661496
ASW cut-ins.

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>>14661841

>>14661875
Impressive.

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>>14661875
What's his secret?

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>>14661888
>>14661875
Sasuga
Real deal TTK right there

>>14661888
Holy fucking shit.

>>14661888
Most likely account sharing and massive autism.

>>14661909

Is account sharing allowed by dmm?

>>14661915
nope, and there are ban suspected to cause by it

>>14661915
It's not like they can detect who is using the PC if they live together.

Is there a source for this Radar Artillery Spotting? I can't find it mentioned on the KanColle twitter anywhere

>>14662040
its in the info card
>Iowa級戦艦の主兵装として米国で開発された新型三連装主砲です。前級に搭載された主砲の改良型で、長砲身化などの改良によって威力がより向上しています。発展途上ではありましたが、レーダー連動の砲射撃指揮装置によるレーダー射撃も可能です。

A new model triple-mounted main gun developed by the USA as the main armament of the Iowa-class battleships. An improved version of the main guns mounted on its predecessor, the lengthened caliber and other improvements increased its power. It's still in development, but radar spotted artillery is possible with the radar linked fire control system.

>>14662062
It just says there radar-guided firing, not radar spotted artillery. I don't know how the translator immediately assumed radar spotted artillery where the phrase "radar-guided", wherein it could simply just mean increased accuracy.

>>14662062
It'sIt just like Shiun

>>14662062
They missed an opportunity to call the US the land of the burgers.

>>14662093
Iowa herself can still say that in her library line.

>>14662093
Burger from Germany after all. Hamburg to hamburger to burger.
>and US create their own cuisine. They evan can't create their own language.

>>14662131
>They evan can't create their own language.
If you ask the British, they'll say we did.

>>14662162
The British also call that horrible amalgam of German and French that they speak a language though.

How many stars does a type 1 AP shell need to match a +6 type 91?

>>14662183
+4 ?

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"Unequip the whole fleet" button fucking when Tanaka?

>>14662183
Too many.

How does one defeat fleets with heavy BB/CVs for exercise?

Do you deploy a full sub fleet or heavy CLT fleet?

>>14662264
You use your own BB/CV fleet.

>>14662264
If you want to rack up losses, by all means use >>14662267 suggestion.

If you're a decent human being, than yes use SS and CLT to dunk those ships.

>>14662245
Forget that, I need ways to sort the ships in the equipment menu, or at least see their level all the time.

>>14662284
You're the kuso.

How much time do you spend playing per day?

>>14662323
Not enough.

>>14662323
24 hours

>>14662323
I have the game open pretty much all the time, but it's usually just resending expeditions and quests if you consider that "playing".

>>14662323
All day playing on my laptop while I play other games on PC. It's easy to mutitask this.

>>14662323
Enough for daily PvP, upgrade and expeditions.

>>14662323
I'll try to do the PvP, dailies until the 3 transports and 10 expeditions at minimum. Other days I play several hours.

>>14662320
Do you enjoy bullying novice players with your shitty suggestion?

>>14662387
Using subs in PvP is epitome of retardedness.

>>14662245
>>14662301
Is it too plebey to hope for a furigana to their names in the menus? Shit kills me, I only know my shipfu's kanjis.

>>14662391
>wasting resources for no reason
Whatever floats your boat, mate.

>>14662391
I don't need the XP for heavy fleets and subs are the cheapest way to do the weekly PvP quest. Seems you are the retard here.

>>14662399
You're the one wasting resources. Use your brain.
PvP is the best place to earn experience. It's also repair-free. That makes is the most resource efficient place for training BBs who have expensive repairs. Unless they're lv99, there's absolutely nothing bad about using BBs in PvP.
Meanwhile subs are the only class that doesn't need experience. By using subs you're wasting huge amount of cheap exp that could go to other ships and small amount of resources for subs' resupply.

>>14662403
Weekly requires 20 wins. Are you saying you're so shit you can't win 20 out of 70 fights? Pure DD fleet should be able to win most of the battles.
Don't go correcting others when you can't process anything more complex than direct relation, moron.

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I won't be daijoubu, will I?

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>>14662427
No

>>14662323
I play it even when I'm playing other games.

>>14662417
>Are you saying you're so shit you can't win 20 out of 70 fights?
Yeah, because I control the other players fleets, right?

>Pure DD fleet should be able to win most of the battles
Sure, these 3BBs 3CV fleets are easy for them.

Guess you are legally retarded and love to project your condition.

>>14662443
You can see them and game gives you huge advantage with multiple mechanics favoring your fleet.

>Sure, these 3BBs 3CV fleets are easy for them.
They aren't common and can be dealt with semi-reliably without using subs. I never had problems with those even as two digit TTK.

You're just shit.

>>14662417
So much autism in this post, I just don't know what to say.

Please, I suggest you to stop browsing and take a nap or something.

>>14662449
When brainless kusos leave.

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>>14662427
You will be a lot more daijoubu than me. I need to get out of orel and train my girls.

>>14662448
>without using subs
I'll tell you again, idiot. I only want XP for my DDs and a cheap screw. Isn't that hard to understand for you?

>>14662457
Yeah, you're totally fucked.

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>>14662427
Not enough buckets

Comps will probably be DD-heavy just like last event, where I spent 900 of them despite using the most bucket-efficient comps possible

>>14662460
>I only want XP for my DDs
>again
You didn't say it before, moron. Get a hold of your delusions already.
Using subs in PvP won't give exp to your DDs either so I really don't know what are you trying to say here. Do you speak English?

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>>14662461
Welp.

>>14662467
>You didn't say it before, moron

Literally here: >>14662403
>I don't need the XP for heavy fleets
But guess reading comprehension isn't your strong point.

>Using subs in PvP won't give exp to your DDs either so I really don't know what are you trying to say here
>[...]and a cheap screw

At this point you are just shitposting. Do us a favor and kill yourself.

>>14662465
My focus is on buckets and bauxite for now. Running 21 on the side.

>>14662427
>>14662465
>485
>900
What the hell, anons? I rescued everyone and then completed Hard, going in with a reserve of 80 buckets. Were you bruteforcing or something?

>>14662476
They don't hold anywhere close to the same meaning, moron. Learn how to speak and what the words mean.

You're the one shitposting if you're implying you can't win 20 fights out of 70. Kill yourself. Or start by reading the discussion since start which is here: >>14662264
And wasn't about your personal scenario, you self-entitled waste of oxygen.

Is there any viewers that I can use on this Windows 98SE computer?

>>14662484
200 fucking runs for Graf, then probably 100 more for extra Maruyus and U-511's

>>14662484
I don't have time during the day to run the event. I can sneak stockpiling resources in, though.

>>14662484
did you actually mean winter? Or the easyfall?

Amagi drop in the next event? what do you think?

>>14662499
It's definitely possible.

>>14662499
99% chance.

>>14662499
Man, it's been almost a year and I still didn't remodel her.

>>14662499
Unryuu didn't dropped the last event, so maybe the 3 sisters will drop this time.

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>>14662427

fuck my shit up

running 2/4/38 for that bucket

>>14662512
Can't blame you, only remodeled mine in December.
I don't know what to do with medals now, after EOs I'll have 14 of them.

>>14662512
same here but with Katsuragi

>>14662323
16 or so if you're nitpicky.
I just keep the game running all day, muted, and check on it any time an expedition needs to be reset, or a fleet resparkled.

Actively sorteeing though? Probably an hour or two a day, not counting exercises.
If I'm level grinding I can stretch that to 4-6 hours, but usually with a movie or mongolian sex-ed puppet show in the backround.

>>14662518
Dupe Choukais

>>14662518
I haven't done EO this month and already have 16 medals...but the thing is I still haven't remodel any Tone/Fusou/Unryuu/V.V. Class yet due to lack of levels and I am lazy levelling now..

>>14662518
they'll probably do something with medals in mind to cut down stockpiling like with furniture coins

>>14662540
You could always turn in some medals for screws.

>>14662518
Farm equipment like Choukais radar or use them up for screws.

Just keep enough for a few blueprints in case something like the spring event happens again.

>>14662540
do you say the "Tone/Fuso remodel mandatory" is a meme?

>>14662541
I can already see it, remodels that take 100k resources or 500 resources + blueprint.

>>14662548
I do feel the need of one or two Tone-Class CAV after completing a certain event map with Suzuya or Kumano last summer but I am not really incentived to start levelling them...

>>14662443
>Are you saying you're so shit you can't win 20 out of 70 fights?
>Yeah, because I control the other players fleets, right?
I'm just stopping by to laugh at you. Fucking wow.

CAs can hit enemy for shit. Even the DDs have better aims. I am so disappointed.

>>14662443
On myfleet.moe, If your pvp win rate below 50%, you can already get a special tag for it. Less than 28% is quite dramatic.

>>14662568
It have been confirmed that accuracy does not vary among different type of ship.

>>14662264
Sub fleets belong in Orel/ranking and CLTs are only acceptable when below 80 or grinding quints, at least for me. Winning against BB/CV is a matter of AS and adjusting for enemy comp.

The lazy way of ensuring AS is to have one more CV(L) than the enemy and fill them with one bomber in a medium or large slot and the rest green (saiun is optional). After that, you make a judgement on the number of CA/BB you need, if any, to help take out their counterparts. Usually you'll have enough slots for at least one ship for levelling and a Katori-class.

>>14662575

The problem is when they do hit, it is only scratch. At the same time DDs can hit around 40+ damage on the same ship that the CA just hit.

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This is my third, do I just steal her Daihatsu or do I take the time to also steal her autogyro and ASW plane? I feel like two are sort of enough.

>>14662582
>>14662264
You're generally right but I'd like to add that if enemy has 3CV or more, it's better to take 0-2 CLTs, rest of the fleet CAs and bet on yasen as you won't be getting AS anyway.

>>14662587
You want 6+ autogyro.

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What have they done with 2-5.

Hit the transport ship for 19 damage, 2 times in a row? Really Maya, really? I am so triggered right now.

>>14662613
It has 65 armor.

>>14662594
Where am I going to use 2 BBV for ASW duty?

>>14662587
you want at least 5

>>14662603
ib4 devs gonna nerf this route

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>>14662563
To win with DDs, are you retarded too or him samefagging?

>>14662570
Who said I have problems with PvP? My only problem is that I don't need the XP for heavy ships.

>>14662616

And Maya is a CA.

>>14662585
It's just RNG. RNG determine if it is critical hit or not, and determine a random value for enemy armor,

>>14662619
>2 BBV
No, it's 4 on a BBV and 2 on a CVL.

>>14662637
Ah, I see. So the Type 3 planes are scrappable once enough autogyros are gathered?

>>14662630
oops misread sry

>>14662637
For 1-5? You S-rank that map every time even without autogyro.

Choukai is better, at least 80 damage per hit. Should've use her from the start.

>>14662643
Pretty much.

>>14662659
Yeah. People would even get Ryuuhou to Kai just for her T97 931 so they can do 1-5 more efficiently.

>>14662619
It's BBV and CAV on 1-5. Both with chevron bomber in first slot and three autogyro.
Only scrubs use CVL on 1-5.

>>14662678
I don't like getting red T at the boss.

>>14661515
She's only not as good as Akizuki because she's not a "professional" AA ship, but it sounds like he knocked out 2 birds with 1 stone.

Funny to see someone being delusional that their fanarts will be used in the official.

>>14662693
What?

>>14662630
>hurr samefag
How typical of shitposters like you.
DDs only have problems with full BB/CV fleet which are rare sight and msot often you can catch your opponent with different fleet. If opposing fleet has Akashi, you most likely won. If opposing fleet lacks CVs, you won. If opposing fleet has DD or unremodeled flag, you most likely won.

>My only problem is that I don't need the XP for heavy ships.
>HQ104
Pfft. You do. And even if you didn't, learn that this game has more classes than heavies and DDs.

>>14662694
Those chink USN fanart from himeuta.

>>14662699
What, he really thinks they're going to use his designs?

>>14662681
Red T at boss doesn't matter when each of your ships can oneshot the gold sub. Actually, BBV and CAV get the MVP more often than my DD/CL with upgraded T3/4 ASW eq.
CAV is much better choice than CVL because she has more armor (and possibly HP), can still fight at chuuha and deals more damage.

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>If the total number of BB(V) and CV(L) combined is 4 or higher there's a high chance that you'll go to node I regardless of LOS
How the fuck am I supposed to do B32?

>>14662714
Add 2 CLT and Maya.

>>14662714
Only take the required ships and take CLT.

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>>14662714
Deal with lack of AS.

Or use easy mode: >>14662721

>>14662721
Hybrid setup or full AA?

>>14662740
>Hybrid setup
What do you mean by that?

>>14662643
I'd rather use planes with proficiency

>>14662740
I'd go with reppuu mule, but your call.

>>14662709
Well. I read something KDKW visited their booth at comiket which led them (himeuta folks) speculate about it.
But from the appearance of kawaii freedom fairy, I don't think devs will use their designs.

>>14662743
Whether to have day cut-in+AACI or sacrifice the plane slot for more AA.

>>14662752
Meant on Maya.

>>14662759
>day cut-in
Don't use this unless you're fighting PT boats.

>>14662759
Full AA, duh. If not you might as well bring a CAV or something.

>>14662697
>DDs only have problems with full BB/CV
Exactly the case I was talking about, tardo.

You are a waste of NEET time.

>>14662785
Read rest of my posts, moron.
And it's still far better choice to give your DDs exp for D rank with a chance of B than utterly waste that on subs.

>>14662757

Is their design even good to begin with?

>>14662799
Absolutely not.

>>14662799
Reminds me of bob desu.

>>14662804
Could we see some of them?
Surely it's not that nipp who made the Pacific fanbook, his art definitely isn't shit.

>>14662847
>nipp
November, the USN kanmusu artist, is chinese.

>>14662757
Nope. The booth in question is about the Chinese clone mobile game, which I suppose it is not connected with the artist. And even if they are connected, that booth were run by a company named as patch which lost its operating right on that clone gane shortky after.

>>14662847
I think it's the one that looks like Yamato in blue with bob coloring, I don't know what to search but someone once posted it in this thread.

>>14662847
https://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/9415

>>14662893
Well then.

I figured being a good artist and being a salty bitch were mutually exclusive.

>>14662709
I've Just read those latest reply on the relevant himeuta thread, and it's only those who follow them say things like this not creators themselves

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Best Mutsuki.

>>14662921
Ikazuchi isn't Mutsuki class, silly.

>>14662929
That's clearly Wakaba, but she isn't a Mutsuki either.

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>>14662929

>>14662897
>salty beach
His taihou trauma?

>>14662944
Oh god. All those Ikaduti.

>>14662944
>ruined by megane
what a shame

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>>14662630
>2 medals

Here's an example of how to win in PVP with small ships. Note how my cute little Hagikaze still isn't kai, but managed to destroy Shoukaku all by herself. I wish I could've used a tougher opponent, but this was the strongest fleet in the list. All the other battles were easy S ranks.

>bw7 3/5
>i should finish it before the reset
>40 buckets later at 3-3
>4/5

just kill me

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>>14662944

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>>14662974
Don't bully the sleepyhead.

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>>14662980
>0/5 World 3 bosses
>Didn't even finish Bw1

I'll work harder next week. Kamo.

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>>14662979
>No kai ni
If you can cherrypick this way, allow me to do the same.
The moment they start double attacking/cut in, it is over.

And trust me, even with elite DD, you can be slammed by a C rank because of ugly aerial strike than Yamato class pummeling your ass.

And that's with a 4 kanmusu fleet. A full elite fleet would be even less possible for a full DD fleet.

>>14662979
>cute
But monkeys aren't cute.

>>14662944

I'm trying to imagine what KC would be like if they all had the same hair and eye color like actual japanese

>>14663042
>And trust me, even with elite DD, you can be slammed by a C rank because of ugly aerial strike than Yamato class pummeling your ass.
Oh boo hoo.
Suck it up, it's not like world ended.

>>14663052
Every ship would be drawn by shibafu.

>>14663056
So instead of preaching "duh, go full small ships for PVP, no need for anything else", you pull the "a loss isn't the end of the world!" card?

Right. The whole argument with the other guy was optimizing your pvp. Regardless of your rank, ending against TTK putting their best fleets arguably lower the odds of having a good score with a light fleet, period.

>>14663063
You don't get "GAME OVER" after losing a fight in PvP. You still get shitload of exp even from loss in PvP. I'm not pulling any cards. I'm just saying your rare situations are completely irrelevant. Nobody said DDs have 100% win rate.
What the hell is your problem?

>>14662979
Ok, now win against 3 BBs and 3 CVs with only DDs, since that was the discussion since the start.

I'll wait for the screenshot.

>>14663042
5 DDs and Full Reppu Kaga, -zuki AACI or two normal AACI. Easy S rank. Or 6 DDs and you have 80-90% chance of winning.

>>14663076
From what I saw the discussion was about whether it's worth using subs in PvP or not. If you took part in it since the start, you have been moving goalposts quite a lot. If not, you missed the point.

>>14663084
>the discussion was about whether it's worth using subs in PvP or not
Then I said, "Since I don't need to level my heave ships. I use subs for the medal".

Keyword: "I".

>you have been moving goalposts quite a lot
No, I didn't, I said what I do regarding of PvP and subs, then (you) sperged about it.

Stay mad.

>>14663092
And you don't have to use heavy ships to win vs 3BB3CV. Your point?

>>14663097
Prove it. Burden of prof is on your side.

>>14663076
Not him, but why arguing about PvP of all things? Enemies always attack after your units (both phases), can't attack with 1HP, can target your ships with 1HP, can't defeat your flagship, preventing you from getting rank B and so on. Defeating 4BB 2CV / 3BB 3CV with all DD fleet may be uncommon, but possible. Not trying to side with anyone, but it's just fucking PvP.

>>14663042
It would be fun to send a full DD fleet against them and try to win, but realistically, you'll have lots of other ships that need leveling. I removed a Souryuu getting farmed for egusa to set up that last screenshot, so with her back in, the enemy wouldn't have air superiority. That turns those four into a very likely win.

Losses are possible with bad luck, but you're not going to get unlucky so often as to fail to get 20 wins in a week. If you get an 80% win rate, that's 56 wins a week.

>>14663076
Give me a 3BB 3CV fleet and I'll do it. You'll be waiting at least 11 hours before the list even updates.

>>14663099
>why arguing about PvP of all things?
It was the start of the conversation, someone asked if using subs worth it in PvP.

>>14663098
Have you ever heard about CAs or CLTs? I only lose vs heavy fleets with CAs when they have Hotels and get lucky with engagement. Even then, one chuuha DA aimed at flagship is enough so it's definitely worth the risk. Taking a single BB is good for potentially disabling CV.

>>14663107
I have no idea how is using subs related to DDs' performance vs BBs.

>>14663074
It is not, but then again, I put priority on getting most of exp with PVP so I'd rather use my own Yamato for that kind of stuff, because it will improve my chances of winning by a lot and it less expensive to grind her in pvp than in maps/event.

Nobody said you have 100% win rate, but I find retarded to claim you should use DD as they win "most of the time", despite it doesn't work on some servers, exactly because high rank guys will put their best fleets which is my case in tawi tawi.

>>14663084
Full Reppuu kaga will only insure Air parity, which means they still can activate artillery spotting. The moment enemy BB does that, you are fucked.
And no, an Akizuki class will not always disable enemy CV bombers, which will spell huge pain.

>>14663101
I'm not even worried about the weekly. I lose like once per month at most, but that's mostly because I never bring DD when there are like 2 BB and 1CV minimum, esp if there are Yamato class in there.

ITT: people don't know how to spam F5 in PvP without the battle registering

>>14663084
Reppuu

>>14663117
But Heavy Cruisers are Heavy. It's in their name.

Nooby teitoku here, is there any guide available outlining comps for exercises?

>>14663127
They aren't heavy ships. Heavy ships are BBs and CVs. CAs are medium ships.

>>14663117
>Have you ever heard about CAs or CLTs?
The point is that I only want XP for my DDs, and somehow you obsessed about that. Not about how to win Vs 3BBs and 3 CVs.

Dude, you can't be this retarded for real. Why do you keep pretending to be retarded in /jp/ of all places?

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Oh for fuck sake. Just how much luck does he have?

>>14663128
Whatever you want to level.

>>14663128
There's only one thing you need to know - don't waste your resources when you see two level 1 ships in top slots. Other than that, you can't really fail at PvP (you can lose fights, though) so use whatever you want.

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>>14663076
Not him, but this was the best I could do. Based Hatsushimo saved the day again.

>>14663133
>Heavy ships are BBs and CVs
And yet, heavy cruisers are counted as heavy in every routing with heavy/light ships.

What a mystery!

>>14663142
Asashimo and Abukuma are BBs now?

>>14663133
Then why aren't they called Medium Cruisers? Shit is confusing.

>>14663142

>>14663124 here. That's exactly why full DD PVP is retarded to me if you do that against a remotely serious fleet. If you don't have a lucky shot against their flagship, you have wasted toncrap of exp for nothing, and even reduced the morale of your DD.

>>14663128
Try to get AS and a couple of ships with double attack, CAs and CLs are fine.

I'm currently leveling the hotels and use 1 hotel , the 2 training cruisers and 3 others.

>>14663127
They are heavy for a cruiser but are just medium weight when looking at all ship types.
Don't be obtuse.

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>>14663151
Guys, just stop. This whole argument is pointless and retarded as fuck. Is it possible? Yes. Is it worth it? No.

>>14663154
If you think that shit's confusing, go look up Large Cruisers.

>>14663167
Ha Ha, time for the fine print!

These are 4BBs and 2 CVs.

>This whole argument is pointless and retarded as fuck.
True, I don't know why I replied to that idiot more than 2 times.

>>14663142
>>14663167
I find these incredibly hilarious.

>>14663124
I read the whole discussion and didn't see anyone claiming you should use DDs. The closest one is "Pure DD fleet should be able to win most of the battles" and this is true. People don't have BB/CV fleets 24/7.

>Full Reppuu kaga will only insure Air parity
Nah, it's gonna be AS 99% of the time.

>Air parity, which means they still can activate artillery spotting
That's wrong.

The point of AACI is preventing airstrike taiha.

>If you don't have a lucky shot against their flagship, you have wasted toncrap of exp for nothing
Huh? How? The DDs gain exp from the battle.

>>14663142
Nice shot. Hatsushimo's a good girl.

>>14663167
Well done. Having Yamato as flagship adds that extra touch.

>A rank
>B rank
Not worth it.

Besides I have CLTs to farm.

>>14663135
You're the one obsessing over DDs vs 3BB3CV though. You seem to have serious brain problems with that projecting.

>>14663145
Read up about 2-5, lying retard.

>>14663154
Because cruisers are medium by default.

>>14663167
>This whole argument is pointless and retarded as fuck.
I know. That's why I'm surprised why that retard still can't get it. I shouldn't have replied to him.

>Is it worth it? No.
Depends on what's your goal. If you want exp for DDs, that's base ~400 exp even with D rank

>>14663177
>The closest one is "Pure DD fleet should be able to win most of the battles" and this is true. People don't have BB/CV fleets 24/7.
It isn't true in a sense that it is heavily dependant of your serve. As a 元帥 on tawitawi, I always get at least two/three opponents with a serious fleet.

>Nah, it's gonna be AS 99% of the time.
Not against 2 CV with 2 reppuu each, which is standard when TTK put a remotely serious fleet idle. If they only have 1 cv, that works though.

>That's wrong.
Test it for yourself: if the enemy fleet has air parity, they can use artillery spotting. Same goes for the abyssals.

>The point of AACI is preventing airstrike taiha.
Not guaranteed. Even using Maya or Akizuki doesn't insure you won't be rekt.

>Huh? How? The DDs gain exp from the battle.
And I never said you don't gain any exp. You lose a bunch because you obviously get more exp with higher ranks.

A S Rank flagship MVP that would usually yield 2400 exp would yield 1600 exp with a C rank and 1400 with a D rank. Granted, that's not so much, but any extra exp snowball over time.

I want to comfort ushio with my body

>>14663208
>I shouldn't have replied to him
Just ignore/report his post and eventually he'll go back to /a/ or /v/.

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So many BBs, I won't be able to clear the weekly again.

Kiso is the worst CLT, in every way possible, no doubt about it.

>>14663218
They are all waiting 20 minutes to switch fleets.

>>14663228
She's the coolest and has one of the best K2 sprites in the game.

>>14663228
I fell for the jew's pastebin meme and leveled her, big fucking mistake. She doesn't even have a cute VA to redeem being shitty.

>>14663228
That's not saying much.

>>14663228
There are only 3 CLT, being the worst isn't saying much.

>>14663228
I mean, there's only three of them and the first two are basically copies of each other. So yeah.

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no more lsc for me
and one of my fleets is on exp 26 so i'm SOL for 3 days

>>14663228
she's not a potato which is enough for me

>>14663228
1 whole extra point of FP during the day, more AA to thwart these pesky Wo, more ASW to deal with these sub nodes, and 1 more point in evasion that makes her nearly untouchable.

With just 2/3 of the ammo consumption!

Holy crap, why is Kiso so OP?!

>>14663236
The pastebin says she's optional.

>>14663228
The sprite is better.

Kiso apologists are the worst.

>>14663255

Yea tell that to my Kiso who will taiha every time enemy BB touches her.

>>14663255
And you only have to level her to 65 instead of 50!

>>14663260
She taihas a lot when I touch her.

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How do i get rid of those two completed quests? They aren't appearing in the quest list.

>>14663275
Ctrl+w

>>14663275
Strategy room and then into Quest Flowchart

>>14663260
Unbelievable!

And even that estrange occurrence happens, she have 1 more HP and 2 more armor, which makes her nearly indestructible.

>>14663265
She needs more time to find her way. That's the reason of her 6 extra points in LoS.

6 Points! You will never miss a LoS check anymore!

>>14663214
>It isn't true in a sense that it is heavily dependant of your serve.
No matter the server, they can't have those fleets all the time. They're bound to use subs, Akashi or something lighter. That's when you strike.

>Not against 2 CV
That image had single Taihou.

>Test it for yourself: if the enemy fleet has air parity, they can use artillery spotting. Same goes for the abyssals.
I think I know where lies your mistake. You're probably thinking that no text means air parity. Not really. Red text only appears when opponent has AS+. You have to rely on your own calcs to know if they get AS or parity because game doesn't tell you that.

>You lose a bunch because you obviously get more exp with higher ranks.
Yes but DDs can't get S rank reliably. I don't think it's a problem if they get D rank sometimes if they're the only ones I want to train. If all your BBs are already lv99 you would "lose" exp either way. I used to go for S whenever it was possible but after I switched to DDs (with Katori and possibly dupe KTKM Kai) I stopped caring and noticed the little girls level up quite fast.

>>14663259
You clearly haven't met the Abukuma ones.

>>14663275
Wait for the timer to reset.

>>14663277
Tried that already

>>14663279
Strategy room is the place where you get the quests from, right?

>>14663285
I've waited about 24 hours now.

>>14663286
No, KC3s Strategy room

>>14663127
They're also one of the hardest class to level

>>14663275
Stop playing on multiple devices, it can't see shit you're doing on another computers.

>>14663294
Wait, what? CAs should be your workforce, using them for all the weeklies.

They are also easy as fuck to porwelevel in 3-2A.

>>14663294
You're joking, right? Bring them to 5-4 and they steal MVP even from bomber-fitted CVs.

>>14663302
But how can I rank if I don't play at work, anon?

>>14663294
I have ten of them in top50 and always had at least a pair in top10.

>>14663302
Naw man, I'm playing on my main computer.

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Let's do our best this week as well.

>>14663322
nice

>>14663322
>right on time
>tripdubs
Impressive, Yodo.

>>14663322
Fucking mint.

>>14663236
>you in charge of reading comprehension

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>>14663322
Whoa!

>>14663294
>he didn't send 4 CA 2 CV(L) to 3-3 for farming furniture coins

>>14663322
Not bad.

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>>14663294
Hardly, it's the DDs and CLs that are hard, also most slow ships.

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>>14663322
I'm so fucking tired of eternal weeklies, I'm starting to hate every second spent on 1-1 for bw1 and my subs have been mindbroken by bw4 for so long that they probably don't even remember my name. Why do they even have to be done in fucking order and not all at once? I spend every week thinking these things as I clear weeklies without fail.

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>>14663354
> I'm starting to hate every second spent on 1-1 for bw1 and my subs have been mindbroken by bw4

Then don't bother with these quests. No, really. I know that you want more screws, but fuck them. Take it easy.

>>14663354
If you plan to do all the weeklies you are supposed to do bw4 and bw6 at the same time, you bwaka.

>>14663354
Just skip Orel and kill those 70 transports somewhere else. The resource gain isn't worth the time expenditure.

>>14663354
I do that on 5-4, I'm honestly sick of the map but it's so easy to not do it.

>>14663350
No kidding. As a kuso I'll have to spend a solid month at 5-1 to catch up with all current K2.

>>14663375
Don't even mention that map, I have went there over a thousand times and ranking rewards were always shit when I did it, so I stopped doing so.

>>14663350
>Suzuya lv48
>Kumano lv37
Is this bullying?

>>14663354
I've literally only done the the 50 transports and beyond weeklies once, and that was just because it's required for the catapult quests. I dunno, I have too many other games to play and shows to watch to ever devote a ton of time to KC.