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-Winter event has been announced to be Operation Rei-Go, for early February. It will not have many ship rewards.
-Kasumi receives her convertible Kai 2/2B remodel.
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Reminder that you should be keeping Kasumi at K2B.
>tfw prefer Kasumi red randoseru sprite
>statfag in me want to keep her at K2
Well, unless Tanaka becomes the absolute madman, then for any potential future E-7 scenarios you should have access to almost all of your ships anyway, so Kasumi is unnecessary for cut-ins since you have Poi and Potatoface.
Keep her at K2B so she feels special.
I want to take my daughterus to school.
I don't need that many boat with cut-in. Double attack + fumo is good enough.
Kasumi's head is at the perfect height for headpats.
If only K2B also had her ribbon necktie, it'd be the cherry ontop it really needs.
I'll consider it when she reaches that level eventually. I stopped at 80 before the maintenance.
>Flagship I want to sparkle gets taiha'd at 1-1
Cutesuki is too weak! That is until she gets remodeled, who even wants the other one?
permanent expedition slut, which actually means the savior of 3-2, 2-5, 3-5, every event with CLT trolling, and more. But hey, in between outdoing Jintsuu as the best surai sentai flag, yeah, she's outdoing Tenryuu, Katori, and army dog in Tokyo Express.
tl;dr you do everything.
Basically, Abukami is good for whenever you can't use Jintsuu's daytime double-attack. Even then, you could argue that an opening torpedo does more consistent damage on maps like 6-3.
Of course, when it comes to rengoukantai in events, why not both?
>when it comes to rengoukantai in events, why not both?
Because you can only have one CL in the escort fleet, the game won't let you form a combined fleet if you have two or more.
>can't take best CLs at once
Fuck combined fleet and its strict restrictions.
The one's where its something about a connection error with DMM? I get them whenever my connection blinks in and out, but usually I can ignore them and keep playing so long as the game itself doesn't error.
This one. Turning off KCV's pinned button makes it not override your other games.
Holy shit, was Sakawa always this handsome?
>non plastic hair anymore
>non shit eye color
>eye shape improved
>no dumb Agano uniform
>can slightly see her lips
>doesn't look retarded
>retard face effectively gone
>much better pose, almost boner inducing
Monkeyman really is on a roll, now I wish she was fixed after seeing the promo image, maybe I'd seriously use her.
Sakawa is the cutest CL
>Why do you guys block your names?
There's no use for them until the friends feature gets added, which will never happen, and there'd be a shitstorm every time someone notorious posts. In fact, if I used my name, this very post would lead to a big shitstorm over my shipfu and attention whoring.
They need to hurry up with her kai ni.
>which will never happen
It took two and a half years for Americans to be added, but Tanaka keeps his promises. We'll all be buddy buddy when the 2nd phase starts sometime in the 2020s.
>give Kasumi a second K2
>make it all >muh ten-go so it's clearly what she's supposed to be
>give it a much higher remodel level
>give it unique lines
>give it a unique AACI
>let it use large RADAR for FuMO and future super USN RADAR
>but then make the AACI absolutely horrible and overwrite better ones, make her lose 13 firepower compared to base K2, and make it so she can't equip the FCF like base K2 can, which has obvious implications for the upcoming event
What the fuck was Tanaka thinking?
So uh, when's Inazuma getting her Kai Ni?
It's be a while and she deserves it!
Are like Takao class ships the most common Cruisers around or what? I keep getting them from random drops and construction all the time.
First I kept getting Atago from everywhere, so I finally let her in my main fleet.
Now I seem to be stalked by Maya.
its in the info card
A new model triple-mounted main gun developed by the USA as the main armament of the Iowa-class battleships. An improved version of the main guns mounted on its predecessor, the lengthened caliber and other improvements increased its power. It's still in development, but radar spotted artillery is possible with the radar linked fire control system.
It just says there radar-guided firing, not radar spotted artillery. I don't know how the translator immediately assumed radar spotted artillery where the phrase "radar-guided", wherein it could simply just mean increased accuracy.
You're the one wasting resources. Use your brain.
PvP is the best place to earn experience. It's also repair-free. That makes is the most resource efficient place for training BBs who have expensive repairs. Unless they're lv99, there's absolutely nothing bad about using BBs in PvP.
Meanwhile subs are the only class that doesn't need experience. By using subs you're wasting huge amount of cheap exp that could go to other ships and small amount of resources for subs' resupply.
Weekly requires 20 wins. Are you saying you're so shit you can't win 20 out of 70 fights? Pure DD fleet should be able to win most of the battles.
Don't go correcting others when you can't process anything more complex than direct relation, moron.
>Are you saying you're so shit you can't win 20 out of 70 fights?
Yeah, because I control the other players fleets, right?
>Pure DD fleet should be able to win most of the battles
Sure, these 3BBs 3CV fleets are easy for them.
Guess you are legally retarded and love to project your condition.
You can see them and game gives you huge advantage with multiple mechanics favoring your fleet.
>Sure, these 3BBs 3CV fleets are easy for them.
They aren't common and can be dealt with semi-reliably without using subs. I never had problems with those even as two digit TTK.
You're just shit.
You will be a lot more daijoubu than me. I need to get out of orel and train my girls.
Not enough buckets
Comps will probably be DD-heavy just like last event, where I spent 900 of them despite using the most bucket-efficient comps possible
>I only want XP for my DDs
You didn't say it before, moron. Get a hold of your delusions already.
Using subs in PvP won't give exp to your DDs either so I really don't know what are you trying to say here. Do you speak English?
>You didn't say it before, moron
Literally here: >>14662403
>I don't need the XP for heavy fleets
But guess reading comprehension isn't your strong point.
>Using subs in PvP won't give exp to your DDs either so I really don't know what are you trying to say here
>[...]and a cheap screw
At this point you are just shitposting. Do us a favor and kill yourself.
They don't hold anywhere close to the same meaning, moron. Learn how to speak and what the words mean.
You're the one shitposting if you're implying you can't win 20 fights out of 70. Kill yourself. Or start by reading the discussion since start which is here: >>14662264
And wasn't about your personal scenario, you self-entitled waste of oxygen.
fuck my shit up
running 2/4/38 for that bucket
16 or so if you're nitpicky.
I just keep the game running all day, muted, and check on it any time an expedition needs to be reset, or a fleet resparkled.
Actively sorteeing though? Probably an hour or two a day, not counting exercises.
If I'm level grinding I can stretch that to 4-6 hours, but usually with a movie or mongolian sex-ed puppet show in the backround.
I haven't done EO this month and already have 16 medals...but the thing is I still haven't remodel any Tone/Fusou/Unryuu/V.V. Class yet due to lack of levels and I am lazy levelling now..
Sub fleets belong in Orel/ranking and CLTs are only acceptable when below 80 or grinding quints, at least for me. Winning against BB/CV is a matter of AS and adjusting for enemy comp.
The lazy way of ensuring AS is to have one more CV(L) than the enemy and fill them with one bomber in a medium or large slot and the rest green (saiun is optional). After that, you make a judgement on the number of CA/BB you need, if any, to help take out their counterparts. Usually you'll have enough slots for at least one ship for levelling and a Katori-class.
This is my third, do I just steal her Daihatsu or do I take the time to also steal her autogyro and ASW plane? I feel like two are sort of enough.
You're generally right but I'd like to add that if enemy has 3CV or more, it's better to take 0-2 CLTs, rest of the fleet CAs and bet on yasen as you won't be getting AS anyway.
To win with DDs, are you retarded too or him samefagging?
Who said I have problems with PvP? My only problem is that I don't need the XP for heavy ships.
How typical of shitposters like you.
DDs only have problems with full BB/CV fleet which are rare sight and msot often you can catch your opponent with different fleet. If opposing fleet has Akashi, you most likely won. If opposing fleet lacks CVs, you won. If opposing fleet has DD or unremodeled flag, you most likely won.
>My only problem is that I don't need the XP for heavy ships.
Pfft. You do. And even if you didn't, learn that this game has more classes than heavies and DDs.
Red T at boss doesn't matter when each of your ships can oneshot the gold sub. Actually, BBV and CAV get the MVP more often than my DD/CL with upgraded T3/4 ASW eq.
CAV is much better choice than CVL because she has more armor (and possibly HP), can still fight at chuuha and deals more damage.
>If the total number of BB(V) and CV(L) combined is 4 or higher there's a high chance that you'll go to node I regardless of LOS
How the fuck am I supposed to do B32?
Deal with lack of AS.
Or use easy mode: >>14662721
Well. I read something KDKW visited their booth at comiket which led them (himeuta folks) speculate about it.
But from the appearance of kawaii freedom fairy, I don't think devs will use their designs.
Nope. The booth in question is about the Chinese clone mobile game, which I suppose it is not connected with the artist. And even if they are connected, that booth were run by a company named as patch which lost its operating right on that clone gane shortky after.
Here's an example of how to win in PVP with small ships. Note how my cute little Hagikaze still isn't kai, but managed to destroy Shoukaku all by herself. I wish I could've used a tougher opponent, but this was the strongest fleet in the list. All the other battles were easy S ranks.
>0/5 World 3 bosses
>Didn't even finish Bw1
I'll work harder next week. Kamo.
>No kai ni
If you can cherrypick this way, allow me to do the same.
The moment they start double attacking/cut in, it is over.
And trust me, even with elite DD, you can be slammed by a C rank because of ugly aerial strike than Yamato class pummeling your ass.
And that's with a 4 kanmusu fleet. A full elite fleet would be even less possible for a full DD fleet.
>And trust me, even with elite DD, you can be slammed by a C rank because of ugly aerial strike than Yamato class pummeling your ass.
Oh boo hoo.
Suck it up, it's not like world ended.
So instead of preaching "duh, go full small ships for PVP, no need for anything else", you pull the "a loss isn't the end of the world!" card?
Right. The whole argument with the other guy was optimizing your pvp. Regardless of your rank, ending against TTK putting their best fleets arguably lower the odds of having a good score with a light fleet, period.
You don't get "GAME OVER" after losing a fight in PvP. You still get shitload of exp even from loss in PvP. I'm not pulling any cards. I'm just saying your rare situations are completely irrelevant. Nobody said DDs have 100% win rate.
What the hell is your problem?
5 DDs and Full Reppu Kaga, -zuki AACI or two normal AACI. Easy S rank. Or 6 DDs and you have 80-90% chance of winning.
From what I saw the discussion was about whether it's worth using subs in PvP or not. If you took part in it since the start, you have been moving goalposts quite a lot. If not, you missed the point.
>the discussion was about whether it's worth using subs in PvP or not
Then I said, "Since I don't need to level my heave ships. I use subs for the medal".
>you have been moving goalposts quite a lot
No, I didn't, I said what I do regarding of PvP and subs, then (you) sperged about it.
Not him, but why arguing about PvP of all things? Enemies always attack after your units (both phases), can't attack with 1HP, can target your ships with 1HP, can't defeat your flagship, preventing you from getting rank B and so on. Defeating 4BB 2CV / 3BB 3CV with all DD fleet may be uncommon, but possible. Not trying to side with anyone, but it's just fucking PvP.
It would be fun to send a full DD fleet against them and try to win, but realistically, you'll have lots of other ships that need leveling. I removed a Souryuu getting farmed for egusa to set up that last screenshot, so with her back in, the enemy wouldn't have air superiority. That turns those four into a very likely win.
Losses are possible with bad luck, but you're not going to get unlucky so often as to fail to get 20 wins in a week. If you get an 80% win rate, that's 56 wins a week.
Give me a 3BB 3CV fleet and I'll do it. You'll be waiting at least 11 hours before the list even updates.
Have you ever heard about CAs or CLTs? I only lose vs heavy fleets with CAs when they have Hotels and get lucky with engagement. Even then, one chuuha DA aimed at flagship is enough so it's definitely worth the risk. Taking a single BB is good for potentially disabling CV.
I have no idea how is using subs related to DDs' performance vs BBs.
It is not, but then again, I put priority on getting most of exp with PVP so I'd rather use my own Yamato for that kind of stuff, because it will improve my chances of winning by a lot and it less expensive to grind her in pvp than in maps/event.
Nobody said you have 100% win rate, but I find retarded to claim you should use DD as they win "most of the time", despite it doesn't work on some servers, exactly because high rank guys will put their best fleets which is my case in tawi tawi.
Full Reppuu kaga will only insure Air parity, which means they still can activate artillery spotting. The moment enemy BB does that, you are fucked.
And no, an Akizuki class will not always disable enemy CV bombers, which will spell huge pain.
I'm not even worried about the weekly. I lose like once per month at most, but that's mostly because I never bring DD when there are like 2 BB and 1CV minimum, esp if there are Yamato class in there.
>Have you ever heard about CAs or CLTs?
The point is that I only want XP for my DDs, and somehow you obsessed about that. Not about how to win Vs 3BBs and 3 CVs.
Dude, you can't be this retarded for real. Why do you keep pretending to be retarded in /jp/ of all places?
Oh for fuck sake. Just how much luck does he have?
There's only one thing you need to know - don't waste your resources when you see two level 1 ships in top slots. Other than that, you can't really fail at PvP (you can lose fights, though) so use whatever you want.
Not him, but this was the best I could do. Based Hatsushimo saved the day again.
>>14663124 here. That's exactly why full DD PVP is retarded to me if you do that against a remotely serious fleet. If you don't have a lucky shot against their flagship, you have wasted toncrap of exp for nothing, and even reduced the morale of your DD.
Guys, just stop. This whole argument is pointless and retarded as fuck. Is it possible? Yes. Is it worth it? No.
I read the whole discussion and didn't see anyone claiming you should use DDs. The closest one is "Pure DD fleet should be able to win most of the battles" and this is true. People don't have BB/CV fleets 24/7.
>Full Reppuu kaga will only insure Air parity
Nah, it's gonna be AS 99% of the time.
>Air parity, which means they still can activate artillery spotting
The point of AACI is preventing airstrike taiha.
>If you don't have a lucky shot against their flagship, you have wasted toncrap of exp for nothing
Huh? How? The DDs gain exp from the battle.
>This whole argument is pointless and retarded as fuck.
I know. That's why I'm surprised why that retard still can't get it. I shouldn't have replied to him.
>Is it worth it? No.
Depends on what's your goal. If you want exp for DDs, that's base ~400 exp even with D rank
>The closest one is "Pure DD fleet should be able to win most of the battles" and this is true. People don't have BB/CV fleets 24/7.
It isn't true in a sense that it is heavily dependant of your serve. As a 元帥 on tawitawi, I always get at least two/three opponents with a serious fleet.
>Nah, it's gonna be AS 99% of the time.
Not against 2 CV with 2 reppuu each, which is standard when TTK put a remotely serious fleet idle. If they only have 1 cv, that works though.
Test it for yourself: if the enemy fleet has air parity, they can use artillery spotting. Same goes for the abyssals.
>The point of AACI is preventing airstrike taiha.
Not guaranteed. Even using Maya or Akizuki doesn't insure you won't be rekt.
>Huh? How? The DDs gain exp from the battle.
And I never said you don't gain any exp. You lose a bunch because you obviously get more exp with higher ranks.
A S Rank flagship MVP that would usually yield 2400 exp would yield 1600 exp with a C rank and 1400 with a D rank. Granted, that's not so much, but any extra exp snowball over time.
So many BBs, I won't be able to clear the weekly again.
no more lsc for me
and one of my fleets is on exp 26 so i'm SOL for 3 days
she's not a potato which is enough for me
1 whole extra point of FP during the day, more AA to thwart these pesky Wo, more ASW to deal with these sub nodes, and 1 more point in evasion that makes her nearly untouchable.
With just 2/3 of the ammo consumption!
Holy crap, why is Kiso so OP?!
How do i get rid of those two completed quests? They aren't appearing in the quest list.
And even that estrange occurrence happens, she have 1 more HP and 2 more armor, which makes her nearly indestructible.
She needs more time to find her way. That's the reason of her 6 extra points in LoS.
6 Points! You will never miss a LoS check anymore!
>It isn't true in a sense that it is heavily dependant of your serve.
No matter the server, they can't have those fleets all the time. They're bound to use subs, Akashi or something lighter. That's when you strike.
>Not against 2 CV
That image had single Taihou.
>Test it for yourself: if the enemy fleet has air parity, they can use artillery spotting. Same goes for the abyssals.
I think I know where lies your mistake. You're probably thinking that no text means air parity. Not really. Red text only appears when opponent has AS+. You have to rely on your own calcs to know if they get AS or parity because game doesn't tell you that.
>You lose a bunch because you obviously get more exp with higher ranks.
Yes but DDs can't get S rank reliably. I don't think it's a problem if they get D rank sometimes if they're the only ones I want to train. If all your BBs are already lv99 you would "lose" exp either way. I used to go for S whenever it was possible but after I switched to DDs (with Katori and possibly dupe KTKM Kai) I stopped caring and noticed the little girls level up quite fast.
Hardly, it's the DDs and CLs that are hard, also most slow ships.
I'm so fucking tired of eternal weeklies, I'm starting to hate every second spent on 1-1 for bw1 and my subs have been mindbroken by bw4 for so long that they probably don't even remember my name. Why do they even have to be done in fucking order and not all at once? I spend every week thinking these things as I clear weeklies without fail.
> I'm starting to hate every second spent on 1-1 for bw1 and my subs have been mindbroken by bw4
Then don't bother with these quests. No, really. I know that you want more screws, but fuck them. Take it easy.
I've literally only done the the 50 transports and beyond weeklies once, and that was just because it's required for the catapult quests. I dunno, I have too many other games to play and shows to watch to ever devote a ton of time to KC.
>one CA + fodder
This is only done when the flagship is shit at getting MVP (DD, Aux) and is otherwise very inefficient.
Boohoo, not every class has an type of enemy only they can attack. Just bring them everywhere with you.
But you might need both forms in the event.
What if there is routing based on which Kai2 you use?
If there will be other daihatsu DDs then I will level duplicates of them too to get +20% on every expedition.
6DD Ex38 with +20% would be nice to have.
Think about combined fleet with 2 Kasumi in it.
First with AACI+FCF, other for maximum night battle potential.
You could have 2 cuntsumis cursing you at once in every sortie through the event.
>Think about combined fleet with 2 Kasumi in it.
Stopped reading there.
>Think about combined fleet with 2 Kasumi in it.
Yeah, because her aggressive tone is acceptable, even when you simply refuel her huh?
And it isn't even just against the TTK. Calling her comrades idiots during battle is not acceptable.
But I receive damage on 5-1 too and isn't the xp much higher on 5-3. Is the enemy sub CI what makes this map not viable for DD leveling and not having two a second shelling even with a BB?
>people upset over shipgirls that bad mouth you instead of kissing your ass
You have control over a fleet of absolutely loyal ships. No matter how retarded or kuso your orders are, they will not disobey.
They will sortie equipped with only onigiri or searchlights if you so desire.
They will go and fight enemies that outmatch them in hp, fp, armour, evasion, etc if you order it.
They will go and die for you, no matter how pointless it is, if you advance on taiha.
This kind of loyalty exists only in the wet dreams of officers yet some people get upset some girls smack-talk their boss? Are you children that have never worked with/under people you find unpleasant?
At least they say it to your face instead of cursing you behind your back.
I have no problem with girls that aren't moeblob or obedients waifu. Having "strictly business" relationship works too, hence why even Kaga is tolerable.
But insults and complains when they aren't due are no go. There is a difference between disagreable persons and outright cunts.
>Are you children that have never worked with/under people you find unpleasant?
People who constantly insult/aggravate coworkers (not to mention the boss) get the boot at my place.
Everyone likes loyal girls, part of the reason why Kongou, Kaga, Shigure and Kashima are popular. Then you have absolute shit tier girls like Kasumi and Akeboner that are only good for humiliating fanart and mostly ruin the mood and deserve a hard dicking.
Every shipgirl has both people that love her and people that hate her, doesn't matter how nice or how much of a cunt she is.
Characters like Kasumi just bring a lot of hate by default, deal with it.
I'd like to add some factors that mitigate any harshness I receive from Kasumi:
-she's a kid. It's nice if kids have tact from an early age, but I can't really get mad at them if they don't.
-shipgirls can't choose their admiral. You can scrap/modernize/sink girls you dislike all you want, but shipgirls don't have the option of choosing their admiral or leaving if they hate their workplace.
-you can say she's a bitch to other ships but I've yet to get any complaints. If I were to scrap someone a lot of girls get annoyed by it'd be Sendai for making so much noise every night.
With all that kasumi talk, I checked her wikia page and I realized that there is a "repair is done" line and a lot of kanmusu actually has that.
When is it actually used though? I don't remember girls using that line when I use a bucket.
DId they forgot to implement them?
Actually, it isn't the same. When you use a bucket after docking a girl, when she receives the bucket, she will use the third equipment line.
For instance, when I did that on Kitakami, she says "やっちゃいましょ", despite the repair line on the wikia is "修理が終わったよ！見てきたら？"
Furthermore, Kitakami and other girls like Yahagi refers to the repair as if it wasn't theirs, so it seems it is supposed to be played for the secretary.
Even the fog ships, who don't have marriage lines, had the repair finish lines.
I guess they were supposed to be played when the repairs finished on their own while you were at the repair docks page, but something went wrong.
Man, all I need to be happy this year is her K2.
Did you live under a rock or something?
Devs announced kanmusu equipped with 16inch gun will make their debut in spring or later.
A FUCKING CHILD TOYING AROUND WITH A SEARCHLIGHT CALLING HERSELF A LADY. YOU HAVE ONE JOB YOU FUCKING GARBAGE.
Fuck you too.
On a serious note, I've tried during event that echelon leads to more misses from both side, and result in more retreat than line ahead. Always listen to Isokaze unless you are doing an aerial node or sub node.
Nobody should miss in yasen, and it is even the last stupid enemy DD. Everybody else already done their job right and left the easiest to Akatsuki. That DD shouldn't survive. I am certainly not blaming Ooyodo for this.
my sides are orbiting planet nine
This is already just about the most resources I've ever had except for buckets.
I hope farming isn't god awful like last time.
not really on the bauxite site but fuck that shit,I need to kai ni serval CVs and CAs first
I'm uber-fucked. But I have to finish getting Kasumi to K2 and clearing 2-5and 3-5 before I can get back to stockpiling properly.
Just stick the little shit in pvp, if you can manage mvp almost every time (max modernization, 2 torps, SL as flagship lets you do this somewhat consistently) she will barely reach 75 from 50 by event start
I already did that most of the way, but since I've been snowed in this weekend, I've had time to 4-3 grind her. She's sitting at 72 now and I intend to upgrade her before the night is over. I just want to get her quests out of the way before they disappear.
You're right, it's a much better and cuter girl who should have gotten a K2 before her.