Defense of the Shrines 2 thread
Rumia stronk edition
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>EVEN THOUGH WE NEARLY HAD A 4V4 BEFORE THE SERVER ACCIDENTALLIED ITSELF
C Y K A S
I swear to god as soon as I figure out what this bitch actually builds late game I'll make her useful
calm down, it'll just be here until the steam group gets more coordinated
currently nobody can post announcements and events except for the owner, which leaves much to be desired in getting games ready
Yeah it's completely unusable with any enemy CC unless you're willing to use it from far away which basically defeats the purpose and you'd be better off spamming Qs for damage, and that only gets you so far.
I'm gunna need to try building move speed items and see if that gives her the desperately needed chasing power she needs midgame. She would utterly bulldoze games if blink existed
Yeah, the thing about okuu is that she really needs a good wall to keep her E+R combo going, especially since she has too low of a strength gain to keep her in enemies faces, and she's easily interrupted by a disable that prevents her from doing her full damage. She's even more incredibly squishy once you level ult twice forcing you to drain health for mana to cast all of your abilities.
it's probably a shitty idea, but would you maybe be able to use her abilities to flashfarm carry items? A 500 damage aoe nuke on a 10 second cooldown looks like it would be handy for sucking up farm.
500 damage AOE nuke with a 10 second cooldown should be used for ganking, then farming the lane or adjacent forest you just ganked.
But of course you need to be able to do something with that gold
I was thinking that too.
Maybe build this
It gives a bunch of agi, a bit of strength, and some movement speed. I think it would be pretty good for getting that boost she needs mid game.
There are also plenty of abilities that give truesight to deward. Wriggle and Momiji especially. Momiji can actually sent her invisible pups over to ward spots, use her global true sight there, and deward from anywhere on the map. Although the best dewarding in the game may not outweigh the fact that she's pretty underwhelming in every other regard.
Tie between Sakuya and Rumia from what I've seen so far. Rumia will absolutely ball out of control if you don't ground her laning phase to a fucking halt with an iron boot heel with little to nothing you can do about it. Sakuya gets free teamwipes until enemies build the yukkuri hex item.
Master Spark does not go well with 500 ping! Not at all!
I'd say just pick beefy who can spam spells in lane to go against Rumia. Whenever I play her against a squishy int hero in lane, I get easy kills and then snowball. Not so much when they can bully me in lane equally as hard or be able to take a few hits.
I'll tell you one thing though; Kanako shits all over Rumia, but do NOT put Kanako in a lane against her, she will be crushed and give loads of strength to Rumia. I always find Kanako extremely difficult to deal with, due to the constant aoe stunning that happens around her, and that the bigass circle is a pain in the ass to deal with as a melee carry.
Also forgot to mention that Kaguya is the worst possible pick against Rumia. Period.
Making it night will fuck over your team hard, as Rumia's impossible to catch and attacks at the speed of light at night.
Why did you start the thread with "edition" and "last thread: x"? Is this the current trending epik meme?
I also noticed that.
That's why I removed my post, I thought I could delete it fast enough for not anyone to reply.
The strange thing though is that I could see other groups but not the DotS one, that's why I was worried.
I really don't enjoy playing with those other people that also tend to play dots a lot.
They seem to take the game too serious and even wants to ban heroes and such before playing.
The only group that does that is the Russian stack (not our Kanako player, he's the best). They aren't jp, they just play DotS a lot too. I have no idea why they want to ban cirno and aya though, both are fine.
Nah, /jp/ lobbies are easily the most friendly group of people I have met, I fed like mad my first game and everyone didn't mind. Although our lobbies aren't private so we occasionally get the random pub dude that's pretty rude.
Yeah that's the group I'm talking about. They just seem to take the game too serious.
If I wanted to "tryhard" and be serious I would play regular dota. It ruins the fun I think when you start to take a game like this that serious.
Yeah, one added me (the guy who played Byakuren last game) and I accepted because I thought that more players would always be nice.
I may unadd him so they don't tag along in every game. Hate to circlejerk, but they make the games really unfun.
I really couldn't care less who plays in the game, as long as they aren't rude or acting like an asshat, especially to new players
We really need to keep out that byakuren stack out of our games though, it could really discourage new people from playing especially with how they act.
>10 minutes for a 3v3
That's actually pretty fucking fast
Also, we do have a steam group, I think it was posted earlier in the thread. Feel free to join it, it's almost got 30 members.
I've only seen probably 7 people from there play DotS though, it's a shame.
I haven't had the chance to join a game yet but I'd love to hop in sometime.
Problem for me is I tend to not watch the thread and it's a pain in the ass for me to launch the game. Literally takes me over 2 minutes just to load a lobby for this damn thing.
Honestly I'm a bit burned out on the map, but I'd happily pick it back up if interest is picking up.
I somehow managed to miss every single lobby this entire day
God damn it, I'm actually upset.
Alright, Take it easy until then. I dont think any lobbies are going up for a couple of hours anyways. No one is really playing except for the random pubs which are no fun and take the game super serious anyways.
I was the Byakuren. I saw a stun on my Q and ally teleport on E and thought "maybe she supports" but apparently I'm a hard carry? I stunned one person in lane and that was it for my contributions, I think.
I've never played her, although while having a very support-ish ability set, I have seen her carry into 50+ minutes and win. They were on the other team though, no idea what they did/built.
Byakuren is a pretty weird character from what I've seen. Melee, heavily scales off of items, but her skill set is really terrible for carrying and not particularly useful for supporting.
>tfw you can't pick your waifu because everyone finds her toxic to play against.
Sakuya runs away with the game if you don't have a farmer who'll build CC on your team.
Rumia is a step above her imo. You literally can't do anything when Rumia goes invis and beelines for you.
She might be okay super late game with items like control rod and mystia's flute but overall I just dunno. I think other carries carry way harder than her and come online a little faster too
Alright from my limited experience of playing the 2hus in this gamemode I can clearly discern the fact that the creator is on Team Kaguya because she's a million times better than fucking Mokou is
So apparently absolutely none of the girls have butts, not even modeled panties or bloomers or any of that. Kind of disappointing.
I swear to god if you nerds stop playing before I can test Byakuren better
Support Utsuho is less awful than I thought it'd be
>Stack jungle and farm it with E
>If enemies try to contest then they're fighting the most powerful early nuker in the game
>Strong enough to bully anyone away from your carry
Unfortunately it looks like games have winded down for tonight. Gud gaems /jp/
Good day of games all around I think. Though I do apologize for my potato of a computer holding some things up.
I'd also like to thank the Yama in my first game for buying all those wards and sentries. Pretty much won the game right there.
Hope we can also get a lot of players for games tonight,
I find it a little strange that we got so many people in our /jp/ dots steam group now, but I don't think I've even seen half of the players from the group in our games.
>I find it a little strange that we got so many people in our /jp/ dots steam group now, but I don't think I've even seen half of the players from the group in our games.
I haven't seen many of them in the /jp/ chat channel either.
Guys, tinyAdapter here. One of the CORE developers of DotS2.
I was soooo shock and extremely angry when I saw the last discussions by someone.
What I want to say is:
DO NOT be fooled by the mischief-maker (Under I will tell you who is). We are fine. The dev group is also fine. All one reason why we delay the development of DotS2 is just that the boss, Archer, is stuck on another development of a new DOTA2 custom game. So are the modeler and other core developers.
Archer is a good person, all developers of DotS2 would agree on it. Oh, except one, right?
necrodesu. I don't want to spew you. You're just not learning the truth. Most people in the dev group say Chinese, and we have such language problems, which I really understand. Your icons are pretty nice, as we all know. Please sit here for a while and let me tell you and the watchers WHO IS THE MISCHIEF-MAKER.
It's スターサファイア, or, HeadCrabD, AhHa?
The moment he edged in the dev group, it was fated the dev group would be destroyed by him.
He has done something reeeeally "good": pretend to know what he don't know; disturb other developers again and again, and finally, make the boss restart a smaller core dev group so as to avoid him.
He says he's the "mapper". But wait wait wait. Firstly, how could, a mapper, makes, a map,that can not to play?!
I'm just not kidding. Try the third map of DotS2. That's his "masterpiece".
Let's see what he said in the last discussion:
-Im the mapper and the public communicate guy for you guys.
No one gives you the "public communicate guy", DO NOT mistaken-love.
-And yeah. I felling really low to work in this team.
So do we when you're in the team.
-The team have around 80 peoples here. But not doing anything.
EIGHTY?! AHHHHHHH COME ON!!! There are only TEN real developers. And you, are NOT in it. I'm deadly, f`cking, serious.
-And the Archer dont trust us anymore.
He just dont trust you. And we dont, too.
-So im afk for a while..
Thank you. It's our honor.
So you can see... Nope, you cannot see. You just cannot see how we are tolerant of his "stuck-up and artless megalomaniac dead-set" again and again. And finally, we quit.
We are in the core dev group now. We are all fine. Thanks to your favor of DotS2. Thanks to your keeping playing and your feedbacks. Archer always checks them himself. He is just too busy now to fix these.
But we have the timetable. In the middle of September, we will finish all works of the new custom game. Hope you support us.
Finally, what I want to say at last:
HeadCrabD, Archer and other developers leave you because of yourself.
But if you want to leave us. Sorry.
We don't give a sh`t.
If I try to join having never played Dota before will I get bullied?
Download the Defence of the Shrines game mod in the arcade tab, then just wait in the thread until the next lobby is announced.
You can then use the Lobby list to filter it out.
You should also join the /jp/ chat channel, it is under the "User" category.
He did not bully the Kaguya, but the guys is just plain annoying and likes to abuse broken heros and stack teams.
First thing he did last game after poicking Kaguya was start talking about how much he loves to play her because the enemy can't have fun versus her.
What is this dead feeling inside me
Sorry guys, think the lobby is fucked again since I was hosting it
Still don't understand why Valve constantly chooses me to be the host when it can't handle it 90% of the time
Oh hey look, bump limit already.
Alright so time to make a decision.
New thread right after this one 404s?
Rely on the group and make a new thread only every two weeks or so as to not shit up the board with yet another general. (This implies you HAVE to use the steam group!)
If we decide to make a new thread right after this one 404s then whoever makes it should put a link to the steam group in the Op as well as mentioning the /jp/ chat channel.
Although we NEED people to use the discussions. We also need a way for people to post announcements and have them show up, currently normal users can post announcements, but they don't show up.
I don't have much experience with steam groups but I'm pretty sure it's events that send an active notification to everyone, not announcements
Hopefully that nerdy guy who made it sets it up right soon
Pretty sure announcements show up if you're a mod or admin, but not normal user. I think it's a spam prevention thing.
Four years ago, as an experiment, the owner of a 2k person group I was a part of got many people to spam announcements to see how many would leave, and needless to say, around 700 or so left. So I think the normal user invisible announcements thing was made to prevent that from happening.
I think we should try and rely on the steam group(even if I don't find it a good medium) so we don't shit up the board too much.
But I also think we should do a thread once in a while(but not constant) as it has proven to be really good to find new /jp/ players.
I'm surprised and really happy how many /jp/ players are playing DotS right now. Before these threads you had to wait for like 1h+ to play a 3v3 game and most of a time someone even left. But now we have a lot of fun games with nice /jp/ players which also makes the games even more fun.
I hope we get even more friendly /jp/ players to play with!
I think a bi-weekly thread would be good, since these take about a week to reach the bump limit. That means every other week there would be a thread, which prevents another general from plaguing jp, and we get to have a thread up somewhat consistently.
Although, we need the group owner to maybe add some of the more consistent players to be mods. Normal user announcements don't pop up when made.
Also regarding the group, we need people who want to play to transition from the thread to the discussions. No way we're coordinating games or discussing the mod with the thread gone and no active discussions going.
One thing I've also noticed with the steam group function is that you can't see what time an announcement was posted. So you don't really know if the announcement is relative anymore if you see it.
You can see the time when "discussions" are posted but not announcements, which is kind of weird.
Yeah sorry, computer randomly restarted and started windows update. Thought I disabled that... guess not. I'll cya guys tomorrow.
Yo I think I found my new favorite hard carry
Thread is nearing page 10.
Please actually give the threads some time inbetween this time. We don't want this game becoming a general on /jp/. Please dont create another thread for like what, a week or two after this one dies.