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Wiki:
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com
EN: http://en.kancollewiki.net/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Recent Updates:
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

KanColle STAFF Twitter:
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF

Anon's guide to KanColle: http://pastebin.com/ec862KsG

Air Superiority Calculator: http://aircalc.net

Combat Mechanics:
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat

Fit gun for BBs:
http://i.imgur.com/nbLMrMk.png

Equipment upgrade values:
http://i.imgur.com/1JfCOmJ.png

Voices, Sprites, Furniture Preview: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev

KanColle Viewer (JP): https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN): https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer/releases
KanColle Viewer (KR): https://github.com/FreyYa/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (yuyuvn successor): https://github.com/gakada/KanColleViewer/releases

PS Vita Game was delayed to 18 February 2016: http://kancolle-vita.com
Dengeki Online article about the KanColle Kai trailer: http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/964/964096

News:
-Winter event has been announced to be Operation Rei-Go, for early February.
-Update on January 19th, bringing Kasumi kai 2 and removing New Year's content.
-An unspecified Mutsuki class ship will get their kai 2 sometime this month.
-New Year's season has started with new and returning season themed furniture.
-4 new limited time quests have been added.
-Katori, Fusou, Shioi and others received New Year's CGs for the new year with returning old ones.
-Many new voice lines for New Year's for many ships.
-You can now have up to 8 preset fleet templates.
-New jet engine item has been added for a future plane conversion.
-Oboro received a permanent remodel sprite.
-KanColle Arcade has been delayed to Spring.
-KanColle will add Android support in Winter.
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ded
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2nd for No Taigei Club
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Will you help her get whatever it is off the shelf?
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>>14629131

Kiyoshimo for BB that surpasses Dyson.


please don't kill me jp
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>>14629131
Definitely Kiyoshimo and the devs will make her a BB with PT boat escorts just to be funny.
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>>14629131
Kiyoshimo was the one who sunk in that operation and the Suzuya/Kumano manga made a big deal about Kasumi not being able to accept what happened in the past, despite Kiyo being fine now.
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>>14629131
We haven't had a CA oni/hime yet I think. Ashigara it is.

>>14629144
>>14629146
Kiyoshimo pls
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>>14629158
Most of the special abyssals we've encountered so far are the ships that sunk in a particular area. It's gotta be Kiyoshimo for this one.
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>>14629141
I have a feeling I'm being rused.
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What was the point of Rei-go?
Did they just go bomb a beach for fun?
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are these 3 green guns worth anything?
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>>14629266
10.5cm is best for Maya if you haven't upgraded the pasta AA gun. The rest are worthless
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>>14629261
Oppose the Allied landings at Mindoro. The IJA didn't put a fight there though so the Allies have already advanced inland so the bombing was negligible. Besides, with such a small force it won't have much effect compared to Allied shellings who utilized their BBs to good effect. The consistent harassment of Allied planes made it worse for the IJN which is why most of the ships returned to port with some form of damage.
It was still a brilliant move though considering they had to run through numerous defensive gauntlets and actually managed to shell the beachhead even only for 20 minutes.
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>>14629141
I'll help her get the longer skirt she desperately needs.
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>>14629405
Damn, what's up your ass?
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>>14629465
>>>/a/
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>>14629405
These threads are dead anyways.
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>>14629473
You're assuming I'm post anime TTK, but you're wrong.
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>>14629499
No, I'm assuming you're a mango-spamming FOTM cancerous fuck.
I'd rather have a ded thread then one spammed with 50 shitty tumblr-tier loli pics.
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>>14629513
Calm down. You're still wrong.
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I want Ashigara to caress my dick with her fangs!
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>>14629128
I got two of her within my first month.
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Will Kasumi grow out of her brattyness with her K2?
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Just a daily reminder that Abukuma is cute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eutG09sgz8c
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>>14629575
>monkey
>cute
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I want to go on a date with Urakaze!!
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>>14629575
That's because you can't hear her shitty voice
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What expeditions should I run? Is it better to have all 4 around the same, or have some higher than others?
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>>14629611
2/x/38
x being 5 or 21 depending on how much you like sparkling.
What's the point of that bauxite? It's easier to use 300k fuel than 100k bauxite.
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>>14629575
Thanks, I jacked off to a MMD video with this girl a few days ago but I couldn't find her name, I thought she might be Prinz Eugen but with different hair
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>>14629611
How do you get your resources up like this, and how long does it take?

I'm constantly low on ammo and fuel despise running 2/5/21 all day. I don't craft anything either, only grind sorties.
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>>14629641
By not grinding sorties.
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>>14629641
He most likely doesn't sortie outside of Orel. You should be able to get such resources in a ~month (bauxite would take two though).
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I still need that sendai for my 3rd fleet, can't get her from anywhere.
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>>14629666
Welcome the game, enjoy RNG.
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Why is Kashima superior to that rotten Christmas cake in every possible way?
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>>14629687
On the other hand, I have an almost endless supply of Atagos. Almost can't deal with all that softness.
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Has anyone here gotten banned from botting/scripting?
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How the nobs should I 5-3D? Yellow Tas always taiha at least one bote. Do I just punch holes in everyone and stick damecons there?
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>>14629781
Use sparkled DDs.
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>>14629781
I bruteforced it with 2BB 2CA 2DD, all with some yasen gear. Took me less than 20 sorties to clear it.
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>>14629781
If you're in no rush, 5SS with transport quests active about 2-3 times a day.

It's likely they won't go to the boss node, but at least they'll sink some transports for the daily & weekly quotas.
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How did you guys pronounce your I-class submarine without calling their nicknames. Aye-(number) or ee-(number)
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I just saw a married Pyan in pvp for what I'm pretty sure is the first time ever.
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>>14629835
ee-number
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>>14629835
い-[number]
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>>14629835
E-numbers. That's how they introduced themselves and their voices got stuck in my head.
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If Kiyoshimo ever does get a K2, they should make her a Battleship (fake) just for laughs. She could keep the same DD stats, but enable second shelling phase as her unique mechanic (And maybe let her equip 14cm guns at a horrible overweight penalty if they're feeling extra generous).
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>>14629855
I'll scrap her if that happens.
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>>14629855
That would be pretty fucking retarded. I like it.
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>>14629775

No, you pretty much have to if you want to have enough resources and buckets for events. Not to mention ranking.
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>>14629775
Yeah, my bud didn't randomize his bot enough and got B&.
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>>14630131
Did he make it click on the same pixels every time or something?
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>>14630234
No idea, he was making his own bot. I think he said it was some internal bot detection variable that he forgot to take into account with his methods.
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>>14629714
I still don't understand why people have such a big boner for her.
I mean, other than "she's cute" because that describes like most of the girls in this game. I kinda just see her as another 4-slot auxiliary ship.
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>>14630281
She's the only ship of her class that doesn't look awful.
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>>14629855
Let her equip 51cm guns with no overweight penalty but her evasion gets reduced to 1 while they're equipped.
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>>14629482
Don't give in to hysterical and emotional women.
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Trying to get my second CAV from minLSC for AP shell quest is suffering.
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>>14630289
They both look fine to me.
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>>14630289
Get a load of this shit taste.
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>>14630281
Because she's new and pretty. Stats idiots won't appreciate her obviously
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>>14630389
Nice straw man.
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Why is Yukikaze LoS so shit even with those binocs?
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>>14630410
Yeah, seeing her as another 4-slot aux ship is so vague
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>>14630769
That's why she has to use binocs.
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>>14629855
I can see this being an April Fool's joke.
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>>14631269
almost
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>>14631269
I expected seasonal Ooyodo.
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>>14631269
I will do my best!
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>>14631269
I'll do my best next week. Maybe.
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>>14631283
I couldn't find it in the mountain of Ooyodo images.
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>>14630281
Same. She's just there. Katori at least introduced new fetish, Kashima while slightly better, is just another cutie.
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>>14631489
What new fetish? DD molester or cake? She's the only one who does glasses erotically.
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>>14631530
S

Didn't have cake in mind but it works too. She also pulls off megane better than other girls. I guess she's too old for most of otaku.
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Is there a more effective fleet comp for 1-1 spam to complete Bw1?
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>>14631568
Yeah, sparkle
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>>14631568
Single subs for sparkling
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>>14631568
by effective I mean spending the least amount of resources
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>>14631568
2 subs, why would you do that?
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>>14631568
Sparkle everybody, then do Orel or 5-4 if you didn't finish it in one go.
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>>14631568
>>14631577
>>14631580
You have no idea about resource management.
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>>14631590
Teach me.
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>>14631600
Sparkle DDs so that you gain more from expeditions.
Using 1-1 for anything other than sparkling is waste of time and resources.
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>>14631568
AV.
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>>14631610
Jokes on you you're the one wasting resources by sparkling DDs instead of subs that are cheaper, nerd. You can sparkle DDs in PVP
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>>14631621
You're a retard. Subs should be mainly used for farming resources.
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>>14631621
If you're sparkling subs then you should use Orel or you're wasting resources
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>>14631630
Orel is a waste of time
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>>14631610
So using 2 subs on 1-1 for Bw1 is a waste?
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>>14631641
Yeah, since you could use 1
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>>14631638
>said no one ever
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>>14631638
Doing Orel once will give you more resources than you would gain from using sub instead of DD on 10 expeditions.
If you're seriously defending sparkling subs instead of DDs for expeditions then you really can't count, not to mention that you have to sparkle mostly DDs anyway.
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>>14631621
You HAVE to use DDs for expeditions. Subs you can sneak a couple in here and there and for ex2, but you're most likely using a large amount of DDs to do resource runs.
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>>14631641
Of course. It's just that - a waste.
If you used a DD, you could use its sprkle to gain more from expeditions.
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There was lv 148 Kongou instead of Ise a moment ago ;_;
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>>14631651
>>14631655
You can sparkle DDs from PVP so you don't have to waste time running 1-1. If I really need to sparkle a DD, which I rarely do, I run 1-5, not 1-1

Sparkling subs at Orel is stupid because Taiha rate is relative high with 1 sub and with 2 or more getting MVP is entirely up to RNG. My repair docks are already constantly full so that would mean increased bucket use. I simply don't have the time to make an average of 6 five minute Orel runs to sparkle a single sub, especially if I'm running sparkled Ex6. Time is the most valuable resource
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>>14631688
>You can sparkle DDs from PVP
No, you can't. The +1 isn't worth much anyway.
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>Next event triggers special cutscenes if you bring the right ships for the comp
>New dialogue sprites and is voiced
>You're doing it right if the final boss of the event triggers a cutscene and duel with your flagship before the rest of the fleet shows up
>New special mechanics for flag duels

How hyped will you be for this?
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>>14631693
+13 for flagship. 3 Sets of subs gets you to Cond89. You only need 2 DDs for Ex5, which is usually the only expedition that requires DDs that I use.
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>>14631688
>I'm running sparkled Ex6
Farming bauxite? Now that's a waste.
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>>14631699
It wont happen.
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>>14631699
And I thought Tanaka's ideas were stupid.
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>>14631701
Yeah sure. You're so going to get those morale against BBs and CVs. And it's so easy to control MVP with DDs.

Have you even spent a single day playing this game?
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>>14631703
Bauxite is the only resource that's a pain to get outside of expeditions

>>14631708
Obviously not every matchup is against subs, but around 50% of them are. If I don't get any subs and my sparkles run out I have to run 1-5. Not a big deal.
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>>14631720
>50%
good joke
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>>14631699
It needs hype music, but they have recently been aiming for melancholic music.
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>>14631728
Close enough for me
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>>14631720
>to run 1-5
>Not a big deal

Facing the nuclear sub is a deal, specially since you said there >>14631688
>My repair docks are already constantly full
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I just want to finish Bw1 as fast as possible, not sparkle for exp
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>>14631741
The sub almost never hits me in double line though. 1-1 accumulates scratch damage too which is even more repair time, but more important than that increased micro management since every DD will be scratch damaged
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>>14631688
>Sparkling subs at Orel is stupid
What's wrong with you to even consider that?

>My repair docks are already constantly full
Because you cant play efficiently. When mass sparkling DDs my docks always keep up with scratches.

>sparkled Ex6
DDs can run it just fine.

By the way, you're fundamentally wrong in your belief that subs are cheaper than DDs. Go read the wiki.
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>>14631747
DDs finish it just as fast as subs though?
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>>14631758
> you're fundamentally wrong in your belief that subs are cheaper than DDs.
Some expeditions only use fuel though, and I keep my Mutsukis sparkled for if I run 21 or Tokyo Express.
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>>14631747
Sparkling + 5-4 is the fastest way. If you're lucky, you might only have to do 5-4 about 10 times and you can do the other weeklies at the same time.
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>>14631688
I haven'r run exp6 for over a year and still have 290k baux, shit is incredibly easy to get. Of course if you haven't beat LSC then sure keep running it, but you really should replace that with exp38.
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>>14631773
There's only one relevant expedition using fuel for which you would use sparkled ships. And three slots are reserved for non-subs.

Not to mention opportunity cost, sparkling DDs and using them on expeditions gives them experience. It would be wasted on subs.
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>>14631782
Sure if you only stockpile and sortie for EOs and maybe weekiles it doesn't matter for shit what you do, you gain resources no matter what
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>>14631790
Unless you don't get AS you aren't going to piss away baux on normal maps. My baux has never been under 200k for since MI ended, even during events baux use isn't very high.
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>>14631805
Once I'm done with these radars and my last LSC ship I'll be free too. I won't need to level my ships anymore so no more 5-4 either. Can't wait to sit on my ass with 300k resources
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Why is this thread so dead?
Was everyone banned for posting outside of the general?
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>>14631890
I don't know about the rest but I got bored of the game. I lurk here but I don't post much anymore.
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>>14631890
Whenever the event is near, everyone hibernate.
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>>14631890
Noting new to talk, so unless someone ask a question shit is dead yo.
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The mole made it and actually hit something.
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>>14631933
That's just evil, man.
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>>14631933
You're a bully, you know it?
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>>14631890
Wait for Kasumi Kai Ni update teasers and leaks and event next month and it'll be more lively.
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>>14632025
pls no
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>>14632025
There is no reason for a DD to have such a high remodel level. The devs are going insane and can fuck over the players whenever they want.
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>>14632025
L80 at most.
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>people don't sparkle subs for 6-1 monthly
baka desu senpaitachi

I'll give that sending 2 subs to 1-1 is retarded though.
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>>14632052
>Fuck over the players

It's just a number that takes like 5 more days to reach than normal K2 levels.
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I still can't decide whether to give my two blurprints to Bismarck or Zuikaku and Shoukaku now that I'm almost done the catapult quests.
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>>14632093
Wait for the event. If there's tough combined fleet maps or not much use for carriers beyond support, go Bisko. Otherwise, get the cranes.
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>>14632080
He has an entire month to do it, doesn't even need to waste buckets.
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>>14632069
Are you retarded? Sparkling for the quest that rewards Irako?
You're trading someone your homemade ravioli dish for their Chef Boyardee.
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>>14632080
It's just for clearing the quest log. Same reason why some people upgrade the Iwai plane.

>>14632168
6-1 is pretty easy if you sparkle for it, there's no reason not to.
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>>14632069
Doing the 6-1 monthly is useless if you don't have Mamiya, which is impossible to get without buying it or do one-time quests.
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>>14632231
As I said before, quest log.
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Does there come a point where you have to scrap every new ship you get? I've always had something against it so I've used every girl for modernization, but at this point just about everyone is fully modernized. I guess this is a stupid question but I just don't want to know the answer.
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>>14632271
>I just don't want to know the answer
I'll give the answer to you, nerd.

Yes.
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>>14632271
Yeah.
It feels strange. Farming dupes and training trophy DDs help a bit with this problem. If you do 5-4 or 4-3 though you can even max AA in less than a day.
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>>14632271
Yes, but some come with good stuff at kai if you have the time to level them like quints and various radars.
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>>14632271
Even if you do the modernisation and scrapping quests, you will experience an overflow, depending on how much you sortie.
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>>14632293
Yeah but leveling them just makes more ships that I'd have to do something about.
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>>14632271
I only scrap ships for the daily, when I need to get rid of ships I modernize level 1s with level 1s.

Scrapping every ship just takes too long for me.
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>>14632271
Yes, especially if you don't have money to buy more slots for ships. Plus you should be scrapping 2 a day for the daily anyways. To make you feel better, just imagine that you are taking the girl's equipment off and sending them off to go live real happy girl lives
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>>14632319
You're missing out on 50 steel from BBs.
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>>14632319
>Scrapping every ship just takes too long
Multiple scrapping fucking when, Tanaka?
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>>14632197
Sorry for confusing you with the analogy.
You're putting in the effort to sparkle for a quest that doesn't give you anything meaningful except for the item that gives you effort-free sparkling. Get it?
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>>14632393
So he's canning the food during peace time to use it in the front, when time is a problem? I fail to see your problem.
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>>14632404
I beat last Summer in a week. It's never a problem.
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>>14632434
I never use food nor damecons so I usually I don't bother to do that quest.

Still, your analogy is shit. If you want to use foods in events, sparkling to getting it easier is logic.
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>>14632393
>empty quest log
>not meaningful
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>>14632329
Well that's the thing, I have ship slots and I do hoard a bit, so I've been using almost every girl for modernization for about a year now. So I kinda just hit the point where new ships don't come along often enough and I've already modernized everything including the pre-kai ships I haven't leveled yet.
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>>14632434
I started last summer event on the 2nd day and still managed to clear it on the 4th day, so I don't see the point of your argument. Why do you even care about how other people play their game? It's not even like he's doing something extremely retarded that makes no sense.
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>>14632454
Actually, logic would be doing it with the minimal time/effort, using full subs over time or just crushing it out with ABKM/KTKM/CVB yuri squad.
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>>14632434
>I beat last Summer in a week
Farming all the girls? Congratulations, now explain us how to get good at RNG.
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>>14632480
grats on your easy clear.
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>>14632485
>logic would be doing it with the minimal time/effort
That's "efficiency", Anon, not logic.
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>>14632485
>CVB
>>>/wikia/
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>>14632489
You're so cool with your assumption there anon.
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>>14632464
It's impossible now with that one quest that uses up a Skilled Pilot item. You will eventually run out of them.
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>>14632507
I haven't done that quest in December and I'm not sure if I should do it this month. Anyone else?
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>>14632491
Efficiency is logical.
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>>14632507
Not if they keep giving one each month, which they've been doing so far.
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Am I equipping my kaga wrong or something?
She seems to underperform compared to my akagi, as in kaga tends to miss more and receive hits more often than akagi.
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>>14632657
Get better planes.

Torpedo bomber goes in the biggest slot.
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>>14632657
Look at ranks of their planes. Move blue to big slot.
Also, first slot belongs to bombers.
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>>14632657
Those planes.
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>>14632657
Plane quality is really lacking, Ryuusei and Suisei 12A are way better than those.
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>>14632657
Divebombers don't need to be in the largest slot. They are mainly used for shelling, which isn't affected by plane numbers.
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お待ち頂いていた提督の皆さん、大変お待たせして申し訳ありませんでした。PSVita用ソフト「艦これ改」、開発完了致しました!

Vita version has officially gone gold.
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>>14632810
>complete development
>right before Winter event
Confirmed for medicore rewards.
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Only the I- subs are buildable not counting the LSC one right?

I-19 is the only one I haven't gotten and I've all the ships from 250/30/200/30 recipe so crafting for that one sub is probably a waste of time. What other subs are obtainable right now? Or are they all events drops?
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>>14632826
You can't build I-19
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>>14632657
>Those levels
>Those planes
Do you never develop anything, or did you just fuck up leveling in general and overinflate those two?
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>>14632826
I-19 is a drop-only sub on a couple maps. Just keep playing and she'll come to you eventually.
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whats better for 6-1 ?

>ABKM, CLT, CVL, 3ssv
>Taigei ,2DD, 3ssv
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>>14632952
If you're doing 6-1 monthly, don't do it.
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>>14632952
clearing for 1st time, and for 6-2 quest
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>some girls are denied their full cut-in potential in luck
This shit sucks.
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>>14632952
The former. Just keep your LoS in mind.
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>>14632967
Bring Kaga with 2 Reppu, 1 Torp, and a Saiun instead of CVL. You're facing a hellcat Wo.
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CLH is a seaslug
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>>14632952
CL, CLT, CV, 3 SS
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>>14633120
It's weird to think they are mutations of marine life, but then again the DDs look like sharks.
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>>14632975
Reppuu
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>>14633349
leppu
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>>14633349
REPPUUZAN
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>>14632973
>>14632975
>>14633137
>>14633137
manage too reach the boss once and s rank it, after several taiha retreat
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>>14633464
Did you sparkle?
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http://exhentai.org/g/895520/a10d001e06/
http://exhentai.org/g/895521/3ec72f10c4/
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/fd8aaokj5b6h4/KCDJ
Zuiun.
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>>14633457
>still no Kancolle x Strike Witches event
It's my wet dream, someone make it happen already.
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Are you ready to be graced by the presence of the greatest destroyer of all time?
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>>14631579
I think the word you are searching for is "efficient".
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>>14633507
She was literally who 9 months ago.
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>>14633503
>Kancolle
>small c

>>14633507
My Kasumi's level is nowhere near ready, but well, bring it on.
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>>14633507
Why haven't there been any leaks yet? Aren't they usually out by now?
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>>14633522
Are you retarded? This shit never gets leaked, you only see previews during maintenance and the earliest you'll get the sprite is half an hour before servers go live again.
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>>14633530
I could've sworn Zuikaku's leaks were out days before maintenance. Maybe my perception of time just went haywire
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>>14633499
Thanks m8
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I've only crafted some radars and planes. Should I bother crafting anything else if I don't have Akashi?
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>>14633576
shells, ASW
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>>14633576
Both types of shells, you will need them for the event.
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>>14633507
Yeah, shame the bitch is getting a K2 before her though.
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>>14633617
but ooi has kai ni already
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Do you guys keep duplicate Yamasushis? If so, for what reason?
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>>14633628
>dupe useless BB
no reason for keeping dupe yamato class, so expensive and we have the pasta girls. I dont remember the last time ive used Yamato class, even for suport expedition
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Seeing married Akagi in PVP makes me feel sort of sad, she carried me so hard during the beginning and now I don't even remember the last time I sortied her. Is there anyone like that for you guys?
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>>14633628
There is not reason to keep duplicates of anyone besides daihatsu mules and subs if you're into slaving.
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>>14633644
No, because I use my CVs as much as possible.
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>>14633628
>>14633636
You can keep both of them at lvl 1 equip them with large bulge. fill the rest of the team w maya k2 ,clt, CV and some asw ship
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>>14633617
Fujikawa is stuck drawing Yuugumo class until the devs let him do another kai 2.
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>>14633644
>she carried me so hard during the beginning
I was lucky enough to get both cranes before Akagi, so I barely sortied her.

> Is there anyone like that for you guys?
Ise. She was the absolute heavy hitter of my fleet for a while and now she's just gathering dust.
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>>14633617
I think this is my favourite damaged art in the game.
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>>14633644
Not really, but I truly appreciate her, she's cute plus fujita, I couldnt care less she's a potato carrier. Sadly memes went too hard on her and she's pretty much a joke nowdays.
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>>14633678
Minigasa.
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>>14633644
Choukai was my first CA and carried me before I even got my first BB. She still does thanks to her kai 2 and I'm glad the level cap was increased so I could use her more.
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Is it more efficient?
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>>14633507
Level 70 right now. Got a day of 4-3 to do. I powerleveled her from 1 since yesterday.
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>>14633751
Only in that you can finish the resupply quest faster.
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>>14633751
Well, if you could do it the way Akagi wants you to you end up spending 12x the resupply cost.
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>>14633751
If you were a real cheapskate, you could even refuel & resupply ammo separately for each ship, and it'll still count for the quest.
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>>14633507
Nobody noticed her until her Kai Ni got announced. So sad.
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>>14633785
It's almost like having a shitty personality makes people not care about them.
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>>14633785
You mean like most of the ships that got an upgrade?
>>14633791
kusoboner pls
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>>14633802
Calling someone a fan of fucking Akebono in response to not liking ships with shitty personalities. Do you understand how stupid that sounds?
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>>14633785
Didn't that Kancolle light novel come first? More people became sympathetic after that if I recall correctly.
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You faggots aren't a believer of Konishi yet? He'll likely deliver just like always.
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>>14633824
Cranes look pretty bland.
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>>14633827
Wrong, you're blind or trolling. His art is a huge step up, cranes look more reliable and confident.
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>>14633832
Shoukaku is literally Akagi with white hair and Zuikaku loses her great camo outfit if you want to use jets on her.
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>>14633827
That's because he dedicated all his time to actual good promo artwork of Agano, Noshiro and Yahagi
PLAINCLOTHES NEVER ;_;
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>>14633834
What? They're nothing alike. Shibafu's art is just emotionless as a dead fish, while Konishi's art managed Shoukaku to be more capable and mature than her regular form.

> Zuikaku loses her great camo outfit
It's shit. Her red and white scheme is much better, and it's a good thing that's her K2A form. Do you have a taste, dude?
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>>14633849
No, you're the one with shit taste if you like the generic white and red uniform over camouflage.
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>>14633824
>2016
>literally year of the monkey
Newfags I swear.
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>>14633858
>generic
No, her camouflage made her look dull and lackluster. Konishi and I have better taste than you, faggot.
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>>14633869
Konishi has amazingly shit taste if he can't be assed to do more Asashio-class art.
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>>14633827
I like Shoukaku though.
Do I have shit taste?
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White and red looks better on zuihou while camo looks better on zuikaku.
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>>14633872
>Asashio-class art.
That's just sad, man. Out of all classes he made, you picked the most boring one. Congrats.
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>>14633884
And yet one of them is getting the best Kai 2 since Ayanami, and if lucky will look as good as ABKM.
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>>14633887
That doesn't change how asashiwho class is like half a step above the literally who mutsukis and fubukis at best
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>>14633909
Good enough, that means they're only below the Kagerou Collection and Fujikawa's Hair Adventures.
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>>14633887
Can't wait to be underwhelmed tomorrow
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>>14633920
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A4%A7%E6%BD%AE_(%E9%A7%86%E9%80%90%E8%89%A6)
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>>14633887
Not to nitpick, but I've never encountered a person who would even say Ayanami has the best Kai2 in recent memory, still Ichiso holds the best one in terms of art and stats alone. And just because they will make her special like ABKM doesn't mean she wasn't a nobody before she got her own privilege.
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>>14633926
I forgot to put DD before Kai 2 there. No DD since Ayanami has had as good a remodel as hers. Akatsuki's came close but fell off due to her luck.
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Do the cranes have Taihou's pathing on 2-2?
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Why the fuck would anyone need 250+ slots?
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>>14634067
Fuck off.
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>>14634065
dupes and marrying dupes
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>>14634065
Most people with 250+ slots that I've seen keep like 100+ fodder
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I really hope they make Asashimo/Kiyoshimo droppable at relevant maps like they did last time with Kawakaze. No amount of desperation will make me grind 4-5.
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1 more day left.
Is your Kasumin ready?
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>>14634213
Grinding 4-5 wouldn't be that bad if rare DD drop rates weren't fucking abysmal. 2%, maybe 3% on S rank would be good enough to consider farming.
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>do sink 3 transports quest to unlock Bd7
>boss node 8 times in a row

I want to get off this ride.
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>>14634300
5-4
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>>14634303
I haven't even unlocked 3-3
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>>14634307
Time to get on it then.
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>>14633628
I would keep 3 of each (for support) if I could get more than one.

Actually I would like the hotels enough to keep one each at base, kai and the inevitable kai 2, so there's that too.
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How high would Kasumi's remodel level be tomorrow? I am having her at level 75 and I am afraid that it is not enough.
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>>14634366
88 for her final form.
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>>14634366
Its not enough. Keep botting.
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>>14634366
Level 99. Kai Ni A need 100.
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What if Kasumi's alternative second remodel turns her into a ``BB", just to spite Kiyo?
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>>14634377
What if you stopped coming up with dumb ideas?
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>>14634377
What if KanColle turned into an FPS game?
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>>14634378
Why would I? I have nothing better to do at the moment. Akagi Kai 2 should improve her stats (FP, armor, evasion, LoS) after consuming jelly donuts, 1 sortie duration.
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>>14633811
I doubt people even read the light novel, let alone know her personality in it.
>Kancolle
>small c
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>>14634377
I'm sure this would just have the opposite effect and instead she'll be Kasumi's biggest fan, if she wasn't already.
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What if fleet girls are real?
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>>14632952
>CVL
Where are you people coming from? Read the threads goddamnit. We're going through it every time in past week.
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There is no good Kashima h-doujin from C89 surprisingly. Maybe my standard was too high. On a side note there is no good Kiyoshimo h-doujin too.
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Is senka dead for anyone else?
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>>14634431
The very first one was already nice.
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>>14634437

I was hoping for a seduction doujin from Kashima. Basically Kashima successfully makes an admiral who is as dense as most harem MC fuck her for real.

NTR is fine too.
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>>14634447
You were thinking about Katori then.
Kashima is just another cutie.
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>>14634433
They're working on new features for the site so it's been up and down for at least a few days now
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>>14634384
What if KanColle got a first person shooter spinoff game where players control the ships of browser game players, and browser players use the friends button to order them around?
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First try on Orel with subs at HQ lvl 101. I realised that I missed out a lot.
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>>14629855

Oh please. That's nothing.
please make it happen devs
>>14630297
Triple 51cm equips and Skilled Lookout.
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>>14632838

>clicks image
>lv 7x and 8x
>regular planes and reppuu

Come on man, what the fuck? How can someone play like this? It's like using Haruna Kai Ni until lv. 99 with JUST her dazzle guns and Fusou with only proto-triple, etc etc.
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>>14634494
I'd say it's like using T21 on Haruna and T22 on Kongou.
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>>14631737
>rankings blanked out
hmmmm
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>>14634506

Let's not go there.
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>>14634477
Sounds extremely clunky, given the current interface, and prone to griefing.
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>>14634477
I may enjoy my cawadoody but there's no way I'm going through FPS version of Orel.
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>11 hours left + the downtime
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>>14634748
Only 73 here, panic.
Leveling really becomes slower after lv70.
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>>14634753
Just over 50 here, at least she'll be ready for the event.
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>>14634748
I got Kasumi to 90 just to stay safe, then I was addicted to 4-3 farming and leveled Hayashimo till 50 and now your pic related until 50 too...
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>>14634642
>and prone to griefing.
That would be the fun part, just like the random compass.
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>>14634797
I wish I liked 4-3 grinding that much.
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>>14634813
After only 30 runs and 13 taihas I think it's better for me to save them buckets for the event. Or maybe until my girls feel better.
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By what HQ level are players expected to have Akashi?
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>>14634813
Really, I don't know how many times I did run that map since the last week, I remember I had Graf at lv89 and now is 95 (not flagship ofc and rarely MVP if ever)
It's somewhat relaxing.

Last week I did the 20 transport and 20 carrier quests there, too.
Getting the 15 sub quest after that was funny.
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>>14634826
I think it might be levels but I don't get taiha'd that much. I trained Kasumi from lv32 to 73 and had to use 7? buckets.
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Looking at the list of CLs, I realized the majority are very uninteresting. Are they destined to be the "that one CL I always take to combined fleet no matter what" forever or what?
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>>14634863
Abukuma, Jintsuu, Ooyodo. Pick your poison
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>>14634836
Levels don't matter when both the compass and Ta are being a bitch.
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>>14634863
Tfw Sendai is my only CL that's Kai Ni
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>>14634872
They do matter a lot. Ta can't hit my girls without scoring a crit.
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>>14634813
I do 5-1. It's better exp-wise, but you have to have at least 3 rotating teams, or it's incredibly slow.
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>>14634875
Do you have Kuma/Natori/Nagara at similar levels to her? They're better than her you know.
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>>14634891
You can spam it even in red morale but B ranks become more often.
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>>14634895
Sendai's better. In bed.
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>>14634895
Natori is too fragile.

>>14634899
Don't underestimate the wild fluffy bear.
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>>14634895
Is Natori the most "literally who?" of CLs?
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>>14634891
5-1 would be great if I didn't have to refresh every 4th sortie.
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>>14634895
No.

My Kuma/Natori/Nagara are all below level 10
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>>14634902
That would be Yura.
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>>14634906
Only Jintsuu has more FP than them.
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>>14634902
Yura, despite her being common.
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>>14634907
>That would be Yura.
That used to be Yura before she became that meme. Now everybody knows about her because of it, so she's not a literally who anymore.
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>>14634910
I'm actually leveling Jintsuu now at 4-3, I realized that I'm seriously lacking in high level CL's.

I need Yoda pretty badly too.
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>>14634907
>>14634912
由良も今年こそ!
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>>14634907
>>14634912
kek, I forget about her existing.
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>>14634902
Kinu.
You get her, "what the fuck is that", look up her and "scrap".
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How do I do 6-1 without Abkm or Ooyodo?
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>>14634924
By using any other CL.
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>>14634923
She has that Colombia pose.
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>>14634923
I always remember her as being "the mad demon" and her "I'll reck your shit m8" pose.
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>>14634919
Yura is great. I'm loving that she's getting regular seasonal lines.
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Any quick guides for the new year quests? Just returned from holiday
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>>14634902
>seasonal art
>barely anyone gave a shit
At most, people realized she has big breasts, but that is it.
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>>14634923
Rude.
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>>14634918
Just level Sendai, Jintsuu, Abukuma and quest girl and you'll be fine.
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>>14634933
Yeah, I've been a big fan of her ever since I started playing. She's my second highest level CL after Melon, and still managing to beat out Abubear by a single level.
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>>14634918
Levels don't matter.
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>>14634935
2L8m8
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>>14634933
>Yura would like... a new swimsuit too.
>Ah... Yuudachi-chan, your swimsuit is cute. Yura too, next year for sure...

Will she get her seasonal sprite or will devs continue bullying her?
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Did devs fix the 2=4 transport ships thing? Maybe i'm just tired
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>>14634960
He still has 9 hours. It's only, what, 1-4, Orel, 4-2, and 6-2? As long as he has 6-2 unlocked already that should still be plenty of time.
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>>14634968
Not as of yesterday afternoon, no.
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>>14634968
No
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>>14634970
>1-4
1-3, I mean. I think.
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>>14634970
iirc there are multiple S required in some of these maps, but yes I did it in a couple of hours or so
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>>14634965
Sounds sad, most players probably didn't even hear her say it.
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>>14634935
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FUCK Urakaze.
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>>14634984
That 12cm gun spam was really hilarious, thanks Tanaka.
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>>14634990
Urakaze did nothing wrong.
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>>14634935
>>14634970
>>14634984
so it's
1x 1-3
3x 2-3
2x 4-2
2x 6-2
rank S

godspeed ttk!
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>>14634990
I would love to.
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>>14634990
36 of the transports done already? I didn't even do my dailies yet.
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>>14634990
Is 4-2 really better than 4-1? I don't need to bring 4 subs to the latter.
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>>14635023
at 4-2, I go to Node I alot.

>>14635029
I think it's better for doing bw4 and bw6 in my opinion.
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Is F22 really worth the skilled crew member, beyond unlocking the later upgrade quests?
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>>14635040
We don't know until the jets come, but it's easier to level Souryuu while also getting her Suisei bomber.
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>>14635040
At the moment there's literally nothing else they're good for, so yes, unless you think that it's just a trick to get you to waste them all.
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>>14634933
Yura is very lovely and I adore her, but I've been hesitating to keep her for a while. Since, if I did, she'd just be sitting at a low level while I prioritized other girls.
That happened anyway.
I feel bad whenever I see her name on my list.
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How many ships are you away from completing your collection? only Amagi and Yuu left for me.
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>>14635078
Amagi and that orange hair girl from last event.
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>>14635078
I hope you meant encounter.
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>>14635078
Taihou and Shioi, can't be bothered to try and craft them. I prefer spamming min LSC.
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>>14635078
Bismarck
Mizuho
Umikaze
Graf Zeppelin
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>>14635078
Completed the dex about a year ago, since then it's been only a matter of getting all the event exclusive drops and memedals
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>>14635078
senkan
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>>14635078
Last event was a disaster.
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>>14635078
Amagi
Arashi
Asagumo
Graf Zeppelin
Sakawa

Last event was a sort of shitshow for me too, but at least I was able to escape with Prinz, Akizuki and Asashimo.
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>>14635078
I have to remodel bratwursts and two carriers.
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>>14635078
Bisquick, both hotels, I-401, Asagumo, Umikaze, and Graf.
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>>14635078
A lot, but I feel I'm doing well for only two events in
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I was going to fap, but then I noticed that one Ooyodo doujin finally got translated and was so happy, I don't feel like fapping anymore. Why is she so perfect?
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>>14635078
Naganami
Yahagi
Sakawa
Amagi
Teruzuki
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>>14635196
The abyss book is better

I better get back to finishing my quests, gee
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>>14635078
Umikaze and Z3. Except I'm not even trying to build Z3.
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>>14635403
The most beautiful CA.
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>>14635414
Almost, but not quite.
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Kasumi preview when?
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>>14635414
It's a tie.
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>>14635463
During maint as usual.
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>>14635078
Just Asagumo, I hope she drops this event.
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This is great. Finally got a second Sendai to k2 while grinding Kasumi. I've been holding off on that second night plane for almost a whole year now.
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>>14635551
I would get 3. You can never be safe around RNG.
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>>14635583
2 night scouts on lvl 99 ships already gives you a very comfortable 91% activation rate.
The 3rd night scout has insane diminishing returns. Plus you're rarely going to have enough slots to fit 2 starshells, a searchlight and 2 night planes as it is, much less a 3rd plane.
You could even get away with just one plane on a level 150 girl since that will give you an 85% activation rate.

http://ch.nicovideo.jp/RayBeams/blomaga/ar894455
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>>14635583
>2016
>3
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>>14635618
I bet you're feeling real silly now aren't you?
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>>14635621
I'll show you silly, punk
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>>14635617
So slot size doesn't matter? I guess it would explain why it activates pretty much every single time on a married Choukai compared to 6 months ago.
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>>14635635
Yeah, no difference between subs and Fusou
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>>14635635
Nope. The only factors are the number of planes you have and the level of the girl equipping the plane. Not even your plane level matters.
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For those of us who only have one plane, you can only count on it activating 65% of the time on a level 99 girl. That's a pretty big incentive to get a second plane.
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>>14635651
To buy a ring*
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What's the point of proficiency on recon planes anyways? Does it increase LoS?
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>>14635657
Yes, by significant amount
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>>14635656
It's way faster to get another plane than it is to grind a girl to 150.
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>>14635657
Devs said contact rate and LoS. Who knows how much it is.
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I wonder if starshells have the same rates.
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>>14635686
That's genius.
Would be nice.
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>>14635651
Not for events, the thing is too important for it to not activate. If you married a carrier, well tough luck.
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>>14635698
Guilty. Thankfully I also married two CAs.
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>>14635692
Where's the genius in that statement? It's merely a conjecture.

>>14635698
There's no way you wouldn't be able to fit 2 night scouts in your escort fleet. You have an FBB and up to 2CAs to hold it. Even cut-in setup CAs can hold the plane in their 4th slot as a wildcard.
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>>14635722
Because nobody though about it before.
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There has been a real slowdown in terms of new research results the past couple of months. I remember right after summer we got a whole crap load of new information from the guys crunching numbers over in Japan. Stuff like overweight penalty and equipment upgrades not applying to support fleets and 51cm being neutral were groundbreaking.

I still want to know what the hell the actual numbers are on the large searchlight and skilled lookouts.
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>>14635732
Did that new luck theory with the flat +5 bonus per night battle equipment ever get finalized?
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>>14635752
I've never even heard of that.
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>>14635732
I think it has to do with how the popularity of kancolle has been cooling down lately. It's still very popular but people seem to be losing interest. The Vita and arcade releases might change this.
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>>14635752
Starshell and searchlight giving +5% cut-in activation each is generally accepted. Night scout doesn't affect cut-in. Skilled lookouts is pretty unknown at the moment but the only citation I can find says it probably gives +5% to activation as well but unlike searchlight and starshell this won't boost your activation chance beyond the luck cap.
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>>14635732
What else is there?
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>>14635810
New luck cutin-in formula.
√(70*luck). Luck capped at 60. Flagship +12.5%, Chuuha +20%. Searchlight, starshell and lookouts give +5% each. Searchlight and starshell can boost activation chance beyond luck cap whereas lookouts cannot.

Note this is only for torpedo cut-in. Gun and mixed cut-ins have slightly different formulas but I don't care enough about them.
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>>14635826
Do you have those formulas? Because I care very much about the mixed cut-in in particular.
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>>14635732
These things take time, data gathering can be tedious.
I'm doing a couple test on NB formations, but there's other stuff I'd rather do than bash my head at 5-3 over and over again.
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>>14635898
√(50*luck) for gun cut-in.
Mixed cut-in shares the same formula as torp cut-in but it has a luck cap of 70 instead if said ship is the flagship. It's unnecessarily complicated.

http://bs-arekore.at.webry.info/201504/article_4.html
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>>14635785
Blame the constant delays and terrible anime. Android version should've been out by the end of the event to preserve interest.

Thank god granblue is slowing down rapidly along with getting buttpounded on national nip tv for the monetization scumming they've been doing since Bahamut. 2hu is one foot in the grave and as long as nothing spectacular happens it'll fade with every subsequent terrible release from the semi-retired and lazy developer.

Kancolle as a franchise has been really fortunate since the unexplainable popularity spike during the ironbottom event.
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>>14634935
Annnnd made it
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>>14635988
I don't play Granblue, could you elaborate a little on that? Sounds interesting.
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>>14635988
>getting buttpounded on national nip tv for the monetization scumming
Sounds hilarious, but I don't follow. Also, Kancolle is still alive because it doesn't have aggressive P2W or reroll nonsense, thankfully.
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>>14636007
Babby's first gacha, some retarded nips spent thousands of dollars trying to roll a character and failed, and they've been crying about it ever since and trying to pass it as the company cheating them out of their money. In reality, they only have their own lack of self-control to blame, they were perfectly aware from the beginning that the chance of rolling the character they wanted was absurdly low, gambled, and lost.
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>>14636007
>>14636018
>>14636029
Here's an easily digestable version of it

People looking deeper into this should also be mindful of japanese gambling culture. While it's universally frowned upon(officially) over in Japan; gambling in a myriad of forms is huge there and the regulation is half-hearted at best
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How do we save the secondary cut-in from being utter shit?
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>>14636056
When you've already invested that much into it? No way!
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>>14635785
Nay, the nip testers are still as invested as ever and the browser game still keeps getting new players at a steady pace.

>>14635988
>>14636018
Pretty much this. Although I'd say the popularity spike was at its highest just after the summer 2013 event, and second highest during the event right after (Ironbottom Sound).
>Kancolle
>small c
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>>14635988
>unexplainable popularity spike during the ironbottom event
Arpeggio was airing.
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>>14636062
Anchira is extra-desirable? Sure, she's cute, but she's pretty shit and it's not like she disappeared from the pool after that, she will be obtainable at every legend fest this year. Who the fuck thought she was worth 700,000 yen?
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>>14636135
Hahahaha sure

Honestly, no
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>>14636135
I'm 99% sure there isn't a single mobage out there that lets you get everything without shelling out cash. Unless you get stupid ridiculous luck and get everything from free pulls.
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>>14636000
Just 5 hours? That was pretty good TTK.
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>>14636135
You don't have to, you can buy rolls with money or with gems, which you obtain ingame for free as well as some special tickets, both of which you get from events/quests/dailies and so on (at small rates). You can get by with only free characters and rolls, and given enough time you can build up a good character base.

It is, however, pay to win to a significant degree, as is every other mobage out there. You won't be getting MVP in a late game raid any time soon unless you're either an extremely lucky fucker and get the strongest SSRs of the same element so you can build a good team, or buy your way to victory.

And then you get geniuses like the guy mentioned above that spend thousands of dollars and still NOT get what they want.
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いっちば~ん!
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Say what you want about Tanaka, but his leadership isn't that bad. Just look at his competition.

>Granblue
Apparently some shit is going down?
>Shircolle
Devs literally told players to spend more monies
>Boatgirls ripoff
Chinese civil war

What other competition is there? F/GO? Idols?
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>>14636029
It is a bit more complicated than that: nips broke a fuse after learning that Anchira had a lower rate than Eustace and Beatrix despite it was still a rate up compared to other chars.
They thought new chars should have the same drop rate. That and the cross fate akin to complete gacha made them go even more postal.

The 700K guys were somewhat aware of what they are doing as far as I can tell with their reaction.
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>>14636309
I thought F/GO was already dying.
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>>14636000
Good job anon, I was really cheering for you there
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>>14636309
Touken Ranbu, but their gameplay is apparently even worse than KanColle's.
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I love PVP
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>>14636355
Maybe you should have taken some fucking planes.
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>>14636364
>planes in pvp
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>>14636364
I think the good old real sub switch happened.
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>>14636355
>Air denial
>Akashi
>Katori
>Kuzumi
What did you expect?

>>14636369
Bombers are a bad idea but fighters barely get shot down so the cost is negligible.
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>>14636364
I think he's happy he got a B rank
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>>14636029
It isn't the first nor the last game to follow this trend. Create a product, make sure to put cute girls into it, create some artificial restrictions like "stamina", "battle points", "power" or other resources which regenerate over time, introduce pay2win mechanics with a low reward:price ratio and wait for some depressed losers becoming addicted to your "game". There's not many of them, but they spend more and more until they seriously fuck themselves up. I think they're called "whales", at least in the west. Start counting your money, kill the game after 1-2 years and make a new one with similar or even exactly the same mechanics and new art. This industry is the biggest fucking cancer I've ever seen.
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>>14636335
T-thanks
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>>14636310

I am shit at interpreting gambling stuff. So in short it means that the new character has lower drop rate then advertised, which is why the nip freaked out? Or am I getting this wrong?
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>>14636390

So Kawakaze is actually an elf?
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>>14636344
According to my friend it's really dumbed down and casual outside of being the same RNG grind based shit, just with boys instead of girls. Apparently leaving your units at half health is best since they have an overlimit or some retarded shit they can only use at half health.
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>>14636388
I don't believe that KanColle's the only game in the entire industry (for both browser games and mobage) to lack some form of gacha. But I can't find another example.
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>>14636388
Crowdfunding indie gaming is worse.
Release a demo and setup a patreon, watch money come in while you continue adding fluff. Never finish, or even have incentive to finish because cash flow would stop.
In the end, you don't even have to make a game just an idea is enough.
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>>14636388
Actually, sqeenix made it much less p2w when they released Kai-ri-sei Million Arthur as a replacement to Kaku-san-sei Million Arthur. Kaku-san-sei was terrible and p2w to the max, I don't understand how it was so popular for so long and why the hell I played it for a year.
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>>14636309

>Chinese civil war

What does that mean? Is it because in China people are supporting both KC and KN?
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It's Katsuragi's birthday!
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>>14636422
I meant some sort of gacha where you have to pay real money to keep trying, but yeah, does any other game in the entire industry have that kind of model?
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>>14636388
I blame the whales, they are the ones endorsing the system. Granblue is a legitimately decent game, but the gacha shit kills it for me. If there weren't people willing to spend hundreds of dollars on gacha, it wouldn't have taken off the way it did.
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>>14636310
The cross fate was really low, especially when they released the SR version of Anira right before.

I think nips also accused cygames of giving Tanaka Rie Anchira after Rie pulled Anchira.
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>>14636439
How can she even compete?
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>>14636454
Too tall.
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>>14636394
Actually, Cygames didn't advertise anything except "rate up".

Nips monitored the "players got new loot!" window next to the gacha, and after a large sample, they realized that the limited char had 3% while the other 2 new chars had 15% (new chars are always advertised as "rate up" in the gacha system for GBF).

Nips thought she should be on par with the other 2 chars, but nope. So they went postal.
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>>14636422
KanColle has a lot of RNG, sure, but it actually resembles a real game. I remember the Im@s spinoffs only had two stats, attack and defense, and some characters occasionally had special abilities that were just multipliers. Combat always came down to who had the bigger numbers and was mostly PvP with a hefty dose of pay2win. The recent Monmusu game is essentially a KanColle clone, but from what I've heard the stats are much simpler and there's nothing resembling equipment. So no matter what you do, some girls are utterly worthless. If your waifu's one of them, then tough luck. Here every class has their role, and the variety of stat differences and customization with equipment gives you a lot of options. The fact that we can theorycraft at all is impressive. It's easy to take it for granted with how frustrating it gets, but KanColle really is a diamond in the rough.
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>>14636412
Yeah, there's always the risk of getting scammed unless you're supporting a big and well-known dev team (Larian, Obsidian, InXile, etc). Both types of scammers, because people who simply milk their customers are no better than scammers, hurt not only the customer, but also the whole industry. The first type encourages mass-producing of dumbed-down, rehashed games, while the second type makes people distrustful towards people who may (or may not) be developers with interesting ideas and nice concepts, but no resources to make the game all by themselves. Lack of control/regulations in both areas is infuriating.
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>>14636427
I don't have the image, but here's what I recall.

Ripoff devs try to kill sites discussing legit Kancolle
They also bribed baidu to remove searches.
Chinese players respond by starting a DDos war.
I forgot how it ended.
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>>14636454
You little shit
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>>14636449

You mean a free to play game that is not (or barely) pay to win? I do know a few games and actively playing one of them.
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>>14636410
This might be relevant, but I don't know. I only ever played Bahamut and GF Beta but hated it.
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>>14636497
>KanColle is the most fun game of the lot
Every time
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>>14636490

It ended just like Kuomintang and the communist party. Both have their fair share of interest in China. And both fans try not to instigate another war with each other again because they feel exhausted or simply bored about another fight again.
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>>14636497
>GF is p2w
Lolwat. I thought it was just collect cute girls and molest them from time to time.
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>>14636497
>tanaka was the good guy all along
Now that's a surprising plot twist.
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>>14636468

Well, to be fair Cygames didn't advertise that it would be the same rate for every character, so it wouldn't be their fault no matter how riled up the nips were.
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>>14636453
You know, I can understand them. Sure, they're voting with their wallets and endorse this model, exactly as you say. However, I've read somewhere that most of them are quite unfortunate people. Occasional "extremely rare" card pulled from paid gacha gives them temporary happiness. Soon it doesn't suffice so they spend more. They realize how hard they fucked up when it's already too late. I'm not saying there's no fault on their end, but the whole problem is quite complicated.
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>>14636483
This. As much as we like to give Tanaka shit for being a shitmongering troll, he at least seems to have some actual decency and morality when it comes to shilling and p2w. It's really refreshing to find a game like this where you don't have to pay to get the best girls.

In all honesty, I'll keep dealing with the bullshit events, shoddy coding and long update times if it means that Kancolle will stay around like it is for longer.
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>>14636512

I really like Kancolle's events. It is mean to be frustrating. If not where will be the challenge? It feels like secondary school exams, you prepared the whole year by playing idlecolle, and there are 4 times a year where you can prove yourself/show the result off your hardwork. Of course there is RNG involved but when you finally able to clear the events the feeling is just like you get Aces in every exam.
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>>14636483
>The recent Monmusu game is essentially a KanColle clone
Nope. It has gacha. And the gameplay is even worse than KanColle's, to the point that the players are unironically wishing it was actually a reskinned KanColle.

> The fact that we can theorycraft at all is impressive. It's easy to take it for granted with how frustrating it gets, but KanColle really is a diamond in the rough.
I think this is a very important point that detractors of the KanColle browser game keep missing.

>>14636490
>>14636520
>Kancolle
>small c

>>14636510
Having gacha tends to do that.

>>14636512
We always knew this all along. The hate is just for show, anime aside. He's a lot more decent than most people take him for.
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>>14636512
Nah, if I had to give him a DnD-style alignment, he'd be chaotic neutral. He doesn't really want your money for playing KanColle, he wants to implement his ideas to a game and fuck with you via events and frustrating quests.
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Tanaka had FF roots
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>>14636384
Correct, especially when half the fleet went down in the opening strike. Too lazy to change the fleet to something heavier and too impatient to wait for it to (maybe) change.
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>>14636512
Can you hate him? He creates a game people thought was utterly ridiculous with artists who somehow understood his vision. Even I thought it was dumb, but then I dug deeper and genuinely liked the idea.
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>>14636539

Well, that explains the turn based nature of Kancolle.
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To be honest, Granblue is more of a game than Kancolle is. I wish Kancolle was something more than "put items on girls and hit the lottery button". The only advantage kancolle has over Granblue is that you don't have to pay to roll for characters.
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>>14636556

Can you explain the gameplay of Granblue? I never played that game. For Kancolle it is exactly what it is, you are the admiral plan the composition and equipment for your girls, and the real combat is leave up to the girls, also RNG.
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>>14636556
>The only advantage kancolle has over Granblue is that you don't have to pay to roll for characters
And it's an advantage that more than makes up for the other disadvantages, by a lot.
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>>14636535
>> The fact that we can theorycraft at all is impressive. It's easy to take it for granted with how frustrating it gets, but KanColle really is a diamond in the rough.
>I think this is a very important point that detractors of the KanColle browser game keep missing.

As usual /tg/ is responsible for this crap, saying it's pure RNG whatevershit
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>>14636565
>and the real combat is leave up to the girls, also RNG
I like that too.

Isn't like your girls don't want to attack the enemy flagship/CV, is that they didn't had the chance in the middle of the chaotic battle.
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>>14635698
>If you married a carrier, well tough luck.
I'm on my way to marrying an auxiliary. Oh boy.
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>>14636570
Weren't /tg/ players unable to get past world 2 or some shit?
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>>14636574

Flagship protection works for both enemy and your fleet. You can see a reflection on the flagship when you girls are hitting another ships sometimes, it indicates that the enemy ships that the bullet for their flags.
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>>14636574
I hope I'm not the only one who imagines battles in their mind during events. Imagining 5-3 and EO maps is always a blast, makes me wish I could recreate it somehow in physical form.
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>>14636520
>>14636553
>>14636556
>>14636565
>Kancolle
>small c

>>14636570
And /v/. I actually prefer /tg/ to /v/ even though /tg/ sucks more because /v/ unironically thinks that KanColle is P2W when all the evidence points to the contrary. And apparently /v/ has never looked at any similar game that has gacha bullshit, because the only game like that which they know of is KanColle.

/tg/ may be more incompetent than /v/, but they're far more mature about it.
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>>14636565
You get to fight the battles, RPG-style turn based gameplay with skills, buffs, and so on, so it actually feels like I'm playing a game and can control what happens in a fight. It's not that i don't enjoy kancolle, I do, but sometimes the pure RNG fest gets grating.
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>>14636610
It happens way too often at 5-4.
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>>14636605
>/tg/

Isn't deculture affected by that recent IP block by DMM?

Wonder what happened to the rest of the /tg/ TTKs?
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>>14636456
Yeah, I can't blame nips to be angry at cygames for the cross fate. There was no reason for not having that cross fate with SR anira, but nope: forever gone if you missed SSR Anira but still got lucky with Anchira.

The worst part? Poking Anchira on the home screen makes her talk about Anira onee-chan. That must sting quite badly for those who failed to get SSR Anira.

As for Tanaka Rie, it is the usual cry babies who probably used her as a scapegoat or connected the dots in a very wrong way. Tanaka Rie has a very huge trackrecord when it comes to gacha spree, and she can be very unlucky when shit hits the fan.

Reminds me that Nakamura had to spend 40K for Anira back then.

>>14636515
Exactly. However low it might be, her drop chance were still higher than any other char that didn't have rate up at that time. So even if some nips want to have that case to court (really?), they will just lose like bunch of morons.

>>14636612
Yeah, it is funny that GBF (and Bravely Default for that matter) feels more like a FF than any FF ever since XI+
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>>14636598
>makes me wish I could recreate it somehow in physical form
Oh, but you can!
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>>14636610

Maybe because you think the reflection is on the whole profile of the ship. The reflection that we are talking about is more of a "(" shape in front of the flagship. Imagine a gundam with a reactive shield on, when it reflects an attack you can see the typical spherical shine at the side where attack is avoided.
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>>14636221
I still think weapon pool is more important than character rolls. I have Percy (who is considered top tier) and his hilariously broken fear ability but it doesn't matter when I don't do any damage. It'll help me once I do get a weapon pool, sure, but it doesn't matter since I'll probably use cute girls over him by that point.
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Gacha is just shit.
So many kuso mobage would benefit from kancolle no-gacha system.

I mean those developer must have realized that this is the reason why kancolle is so popular right?
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>>14636612
Another reason why I like KanColle is because I suck at game controls, and with KanColle I don't have to worry about that. Theorycrafting is something I'm good at (at least the people who know me say this about me).

The only other video game I can confidently say I'm good at is Bishi Bashi, which is a button mashing game.

>>14636622
>Wonder what happened to the rest of the /tg/ TTKs?
Still struggling to clear world 2, probably.
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>>14636633
I can smell the PTSD from here.
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>>14636633
Mine's at 43. That should be enough
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>>14636597
I ain't taking about flagship protection, I mean that:
>shot at that wo~
>shot at that wo~
>come one~
>shot at her
>DO IT, BONGO
>FUKING FAGGOT ARMORED CRUISER I FUCKING HATE YOU
>FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>14636598
Sometimes I do that too, specially in events.
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>>14636643
52 here.

It's fine.

She's fine.
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>>14636640
I heard they all quit as early as Worlds 1/2 save for some of those planefag quest folk
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>>14636638
Actually, Kancolle has a gacha system, except it isn't directly paid.

There were some retard who bought resource for Bismark spree after all, and doing so is practically the same than Gacha.

The real difference is that not only you can easily do that without buying any resource (no need to do X or Y stuff to collect the scarce free currency for gacha), but the developers themselves urged players not to throw their money like that.
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>>14636633
She'll have a similar pose won't she?
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>>14636635
Yes, the weapon pool is crucial. But that's something you can build over time, from magnas and events. Characters are more limited.

Glad to know you're not an esports fag at least, cute girls are more important.
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>>14636638
Nope, they probably think cute girls did the trick, which is a lot of people and definitely not the model or twist on WW2. At least it completes the land, sea and air of military girls.
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>>14636612

I actually enjoy the RNG-based gameplay of Kancolle. It means that except for the composition and equipment, I don't have to think about anything else when going for a sortie. And if I am really lazy, which I usually am, I could just look up the composition online. It means that I can enjoy the cute shipgirls without having to try hard. Also if things go wrong there is always RNG to blame.
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>>14636656
Inb4 this is literally her kai ni sprite with a couple of changes.
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Honestly I (mostly) don't get the "RNG" complaints. Yeah it fucks you over, but the whole point of RNG-heavy games is to figure out ways to minimize it, which is a lot of what "advanced" Kancolle-ing is about.

Whenever someone complains about RNG in battle, I feel like they're thinking to themselves, "This would be so much better if I could make my battleship fire at their battleships before they crit me. I am such a tactical genius, the idiots who defend this game would never be able to come up with some a brilliant strategy."
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>>14633530
>>14636633
It's not even maintenance yet
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>>14636598
You could git gud with MMD http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27986540
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>>14636652

Kancolle warns you not to spent too much money on LSC though.

>>14636661
>>14636638

Those are not really the reason those mobage are shit. They are shit because it is the least effort to make the game and they know people will still play and pay for the shit game they make. They don't think about the future of the game, most mobage I mean, they just want to milk it in 1-2 years of the game's lifespan.
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>>14636646
Please learn English.
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>>14636675
>Honestly I (mostly) don't get the "RNG" complaints.
You don't get basic human nature of wanting to have control over what happens and wanting actions to be meaningful? Everyone who plays this is aware of what you said, but that does not make it any less frustrating sometimes.
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>>14636675
You know what's worse? morons who just follow other T trend without understand shit about the mechanics.

It is worse when you see idiots replicating hard mode clearing compositions while they have non modded equipements etc.

The argument is the usual "but the bonus is negligible!" except all the bonus combined flat out increase your odds to smash abyssals scum to smithereens.
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>>14636681
>git gud
The guy didn't even finish the event.
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>>14636675
I don't care about battle rng NEARLY as much as I care about drop rng. Maybe I'm still salty about 100+ runs and no Zep last event, but still.
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>>14636675

Exactly my thought. This game is not about direct combat, it is about planning, assigning limited resources correctly, which is a job of the admiral. And we are here roleplaying as the admiral.
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>>14636675
I think the idea is that the enemy isn't dictated by RNG since it's also up to the computer. But removing the RNG on both ends would turn the game into a slaughterfest. Both sides would instantly disable each other's flagships and you'd never get past clearing the first node with ease. In any case, most people get fed up when they feel like things are out of their control and that's understandable. But a lot approach KanColle without having the mindset that it's more about management than combat.
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>>14636675
Going against RNG and Tanaka fuckery has built an unbreakable bond between me and my shipgirls that can never be built anywhere else.

Thanks Tanaka!
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>>14636633
It's fucking nothing. Give us another piece.
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>>14636703

>modded equipements

This always bug me. I have 190 screws but I never use any of them because I am scared of screwing up and upgraded wrong equipment ended up wasting them. As of now I just do type 91 upgrade once a day when I have the chance.
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Shouldn't maintenance have come? I just slept for 10 hours so I'm not sure.
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>>14636697
Fuck off, newfag.
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What words would you use to describe Kasumi?
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>>14636699
I mean if you're talking about some "primal need to control," sure, but if you freak out about how you can't control everything that happens to you a silly Japanese browser game is the least of your worries.

>>14636705
>drop rng
Preaching to the choir, but that's usually not what people complaining about the gameplay are talking about.

>>14636710
>removing the RNG on both ends would turn the game into a slaughterfest
Exactly. Sometimes I think that the people complaining about it actually WANT the game to just be P2W.
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>>14636728
Hatesex.
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>>14636728
Hazy.
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>>14636705

Last event is the first event I truly go and farm for a ship. I will never do it again. Taking things slow is the way to go.
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Will we get jets this update?
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>>14636710
>>14636732
The sad thing is that the very same morons believe abyssals have some kind of smart targeting.

I can't blame them though, i sometimes felt that way but had to remember it is just a 1/6 odd so not low enough to think it is beyond a coincidence.
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>>14636752
They'll either be added with the event or right after, with engines being rewards.
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>>14636633
Hope this is enough.
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>>14636766
It still would have been more fun with multiple admirals and shenanigans between the several bases. The head nod from the POV of shadow TTK was too much for me.
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Verniy's remodel level is at 70. I hope 75 is enough for Kasumi.
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>>14636723
You can safely bring all 38cm Kai, OTO, Akizuki guns, pair of 381mm Kai, pair or two of 41cm to +9. All Quints and 20.3cm (3) to +6.
Whole set of T3/4 ASW to +1. Both T22K4 and four T32 to +1.
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>>14636703
>idiots replicating hard mode clearing compositions
Best is when they bring out an base Maya and start complaining.
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>>14636766
>good job with the battles

Most of the combat was "stop and fire", and nothing too interesting about maneuvering on the water at human size.

>You will never see shipgirls skate up a tall wave, flip over in the air and pop off shots before landing upright.
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>>14636768
Same.
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>>14636723
Nothing is wasted besides the useless AACI secondary.
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>>14636797
There's always fanart.
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>>14636728
Confused and misunderstood DD.
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>>14636790

Noted. Thanks.
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Kasumi will be Abukuma-tier next event, I predict.
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>>14636822
>treating small girls like real warships
>not capitalizing on their mobility
Not to mention the Abyss are probably much faster than the girls, especially the shark DDs, Chi, Ri and PT boats. Imagine Ri kai fucking everyone's shit up with her cut-ins and Chi with torpedo spam.
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>>14636723
This is even more retarded, to be honest. All it takes is a look at how improvement works and you'll clearly see what is worth upgrading and what isn't.
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>>14635078
Quite a few:
5 left from LSC
11 event-only drops
5 in hard-to farm places (which I'm hoping will show up at the event)
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>>14636844
>opening torp strike without midgets
Nah, that's just a silly idea.
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>>14636844
A literally who DD that became known because she saved people's asses?
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>>14636822
Why the fuck do you want them to form up neatly to stop and fire, when they can clearly skate on their own and some even have melee weapons?

>You will never see Haruna suplex an abyssal ship
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>>14636797
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>>14636882
Looking at this, do they not care their clothes will get wet? Yuugumo class uniform looks kind of expensive.
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But Abukuma still needs midgets for opening torp.
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>>14636870
>You will never see Haruna suplex an abyssal ship
Maybe if that one animator from Trigger who kept drawing Haruna on animation sheets got his way. I wonder if other studios were jealous watching it crash and burn.
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>>14636882
>shipgirls doing low slides and tumbles to quickly dodge stuff

We will never have exciting things.
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>>14635078
I used to have a full kantaidex until this sack of shit came along.
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>>14636906
You can always hope MMD improves a ton to see it.
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>>14636899
Meant for >>14636861
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Honestly the anime not doing great is a good thing, at least the influx of new player is less than if the anime was a success, reducing server strain.
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>>14636899
Pretty sure DDs were too small to carry midgets (or float planes for that matter).
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>>14636891
They live in a universe where buckets of magic water can heal their wounds.
So they can look as pretty as they want.
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>>14635078
Missing:
Yamato
Mikuma
Isokaze
Mizuho
Graf
That-red-headed-whats-her-face from Final boss last event
Akigumo-Look-a-like
Umikaze

That makes 7 ships missing so far
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>>14636947
>So they can look as pretty as they want.
Pretty much.
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>>14636905
Love how she's trying to hold her skirt up when she's got other things to worry about.
>>14636940
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>>14636979
I agree. I even tried to make my Mim in XCX to look like her as best as the game would let me.
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>>14636961
Consider me corrected.
Also, Matsu-class when?
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>>14636998
Half the DDs involved in Rei-Go were Matsu-class, so probably this event
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Start sending your long expeditions now.
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>>14637054
How long til maintenance?
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>>14637054
There's still an hour, are you trying to trick me?
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>>14637056
1hr
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I have two expeditions coming back in 1 hour and 10 minutes.

Every time.
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>>14637088
Just call them back dummy.
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>>14637090
>4 slot DD
>underwhelming
What.
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>>14637105
4 slots doesn't give you much with a DD.
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>>14637090
AACI focus or ASW focus.
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>>14637090
AACI Tsun / Anti-Installation Dere
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>>14637090
Preemptive torpedo mode < > AACI mode
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>>14637105
>DD Yuubari without melon cuteness
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>>14637105
We already have Yuubari, she can even use medium guns.
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>>14637111
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't 4 slots have huge implications for NB cutin?
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>>14637111
>>14637106
I recall the same being said about Abukuma a few months ago.
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>>14637128
Abukuma has 3 slots, or 2 because of the mandatory midget sub.
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>>14637121
>monkey
>cute
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>>14637111
Assuming her stats weren't horrible it would also mean more barrels on transport gauge maps, more space for LOS equip, an easy time fitting AACI equip in, or just room to throw an engine on top of your existing setup.
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I thinkfor Kasumi the convertible part would be: you either get her to do opening salvo for free or let her have a searchlight for free (without having to equip it).
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>>14637189
I don't think anyone would pick the second option unless she looks cuter.
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>>14637193
But she'll get beat up more with the second option.
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>>14637200
That's ok, she becomes a hard M with that remodel too.
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>>14637200
Tempting.
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>>14637189
I think you mean anti installation (more firepower) and torpedo specialist (more torpedo) is more likely.
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>>14637090
Nothing special at all. Worthless Kai Ni.
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>the opening sub in 1-5 is more dangerous and effective than SS Hime ever was
Makes me want to punch walls on a monthly basis.
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She's leaving again.
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I'm going to miss the upgraded Taitei-chan
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W-what do we do now?
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>>14637322
I don't know but please don't be angry Maya.
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>>14637322
The war has a 6-hour ceasefire, tell everybody to sleep and rest well.
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Fuck, only managed to send out two expeditions.
I got too caught up posting about cute cyborgs fingering each other.
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>>14637322
Rock out with Maya-sama!
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Alright, Hitokappu down.
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>>14637310
I'm going to miss them all, especially Yamashiro and her damaged sprite.
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>Expedition comes back less than a minute ago
>Scramble to resupply and get the right ships for the long expedition
>Catbomb when putting a drum back on

FUCK
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>>14637346
I'm not going to miss Yamashiro's hilariously oversized head.
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Palau is down.
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>>14637332
What is sleep? Just wake up.
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>>14637346
Yamashiro's sprite was straight up bullying.
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>>14637310
The large window was made for this exact moment.
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>>14637346
TAITEI-CHAN-DONO!
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>>14637322
Go to sleep.
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Every time I see that girl I think she's about to eat the hammer
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>>14637088
I just came home and after I resupplied the girls I just got catblocked.


Well, they get to rest for a while, I guess.
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>>14637346

Hey, Yamashiro's sprite is good.
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>>14637415
I wasn't being sarcastic, anon.
It was a very pleasant surprise that she got some seasonal art since she's my favorite BB.
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Plastic dicks...
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>>14637462
>actual ship blueprints
What does it mean?
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I hope you are spending quality time with your wife during this moment of peace.
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Akashi is secretly the most powerful shipgirl, discuss
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>>14637542
That I am.
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>>14637542
How do I do that?
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>>14636675
I think some of you are giving kancolle way too much credit, just because most of us spent 2 years or more on it that doent mean much
>rings
>screws
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I only got Kashima in last event.
It is no problem, right?
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So why did they stopped doing maintenance on Fridays again? I just woke up and it's already in maintenance goddammit.
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>>14637627
Can't helped. Guess I'll have dinner with Kashima alone. What should we do after?
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>>14637649
Friday maintenances weren't that common, actually. It used to be every Wednesday, then every Thursday, then every Friday, and now it's any weekday the devs feel like it.
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>>14637599
I spent the entire event trying to farm Graf and she never dropped. At least I got Hagi, though I wanted Arashi more.
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>>14637650
Have a drink and read the evening papers?
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>>14637670
I spent so much time getting Graf I wasn't able to get Arashi.
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>>14637462
Didn't actually interested in buying Ooyodo but now that they are both available I feel like I want to have both of them.
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>>14637670
>>14637677
It was the opposite for me, got everything from the last event, but I had to drop difficulty at last map for Teruzuki event, wasted way too much time and reousrces in e-3 and I didnt get shit.
Now Im just missing best wife material and the potatoboat.
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>>14637684
I'm going to get Ooyodo, but I'm hoping she's not sold out when I get the money.
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>>14637695
Try summoning her with a drawing when she becomes available again. She dropped 2 sorties after I drew this.
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>>14637650
hold hands
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>>14637729
This. This game has some sort of artist bias (even tho sometimes original artists fails the event and drops).
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>>14637729
Yeah I remember that, still jelly but congrats again.
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>>14637684
Would devs get some share from the figure sales?
I want to support them someway.
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>they didn't get Mizuho on clear runs, first S rank
How pathetic can you be?
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Akebono k2
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>>14637756
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>>14637756
>hidden ears again
This is going to look like shit.
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>>14637756
>kusoboner
>>14637757
Pls someone fix this.
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>>14637756
Is she still going to call me shit
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>>14637752
They probably get a cut from licensing. You could also buy more slots / rings.
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>>14637756
>implying anyone keeps kusobono in their fleet
ayy
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>>14637756
>two tsuns in one patch

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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>>14637763
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>>14637770
People will pretend they liked her all along when it actually happens, just like Kuntsumi.
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>>14637756
>kusobonofags photoshopping their irrelevant girl
I can smell your jealousy from miles away
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>>14637740
Thanks.
Here's hoping she drops for you in the future, anon. You'll love her. She's adorable.
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A piece of art, I can see their souls from the mouths.
>>14637781
kusoboner pls
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>>14637781
It's impossible to like a bitch. Whenever she says kuso, I scrap her immediately. An attitude like that doesn't belong in my fleet.
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Shit I started raising Ashigara rather than Kasumi, did I fuck up even though I didn't have enough time to get here anywhere near level 70?
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>>14637767
Though far from maxed, I have enough slots, now I want plastic toys. Is it too much to ask?
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>>14637813
Nigger, you have more than 3 weeks.
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>>14637829
Oh, fuck, I just realized we're not entering February tomorrow.

Wow, cool, so I should probably swap out Ashigara or start raising both now I guess.
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>>14637827
Made me laugh. What a cheeky bastard.
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She'll get triple O2 they said.
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>>14636656
>>14637847

At least it looks different than this.
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>>14637847
Opening torp then?
Would be pretty sweet if that's the case.
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>>14637847
Seems like that's the standard place to put them now. Huh.
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>>14637847
Pls be opening trop like not!hagikaze.
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>>14637847
I want to rub her thighs
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>>14637847
Looking good.
>>14637865
Daughterus are not for lewd you sick fuck.
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>>14637322
Spread those legs, and put your 90mm up her skirt
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>>14637879
And people aren't into bestiality when they rub their pets.
>>
The body positioning of the two segments we have so far seem to be different
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why do people assume that disliking kasumi means you like akebono

they're both bitches
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>>14637897
K2 and K2A
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>>14637899
It's just one dumbass trying to force it even though it makes no sense.
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>>14637847
Hail Konishi.
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>requires 3 blueprints
I'm okay with this
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>>14637949
You just made that up, didn't you?

I would have believed one or even two, but three is just excessive.
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>>14637879
>implying she's a daughteru and not a waifu
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>>14637956
They stated she wouldn't need one.
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>>14637738

>artist bias
Fucking this.
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>>14637956
If you don't have 45-50 reserve medals, you don't belong here.
>>
I finally managed to roll (construct) I-8 yesterday.

Hopefully gonna have Z1 before this event begins, but I won't hold my breath, those quests leading up to Z1's quest are fucking retarded.

Also for the Z1 quest, could I just have all my SS/SSVs and two level 75+ ships in the fleet? I feel I've read that works rather than levelling my SSs/SSVs to combine total 200.
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>>14637971

Yes
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>>14637975
Sweet, then I'll see you all in a fortnight or whatever when I have Z1.
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>>14637962
You won't need one for the K2, but you'll need it for the conversion
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>>14638002
I can see that happening now.
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>>14637827
Did she suddenly become an angel?
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>>14638002
Are there any pictures of this man frowning or sad? I only ever see his smug, chuckling side.
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>>14638047
What need is there for sadness when you're living the life he lives?
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>>14638047
That man hungers for your money and happiness.
He consumes your soul, your tears and salt.
He is an demon, and he will always laugh at your suffering.
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>>14638054
You can tell it's fake because a bit of the wing doesn't show up in the corner.
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>>14638054
You can tell it's fake because the outer segments are drawn in red while the preview image is colored.
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>>14638054
You can tell it's fake because her holy halo is incomplete.
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>>14638041
Who keeps doing this?
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>>14638153
I admire the dedication,. I wonder if he's going to do one of the full image.
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>>14638153
Someone bored of waiting.
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>>14638167
I'd still fuck it.
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>>14638183
Satsuki/Nagatsuki will get hers in winter, which means it could even be in March.
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>>14638167
All new Kasumi K2! Convert from tsundere to eldritch horror and back!
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>>14638167
Looks like some kind of final boss.
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>Probably 3-4 months until a non-DD K2

All I want Suzuya and Kumano K2.
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>>14638233
This. I would kill for their upgrades
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>>14638233
Their K2 will happen soon TTK. Have hope.
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>>14638233
Fuck them, I want Takao and Atago Kai Ni. Now that'd be fucking awesome.
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>That Kai2 that you've been waiting for after all these years
Who's it it, /jp/? Mine's Hiyou.
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>>14638233
I was hoping Ise/Hyuuga would get theirs since they're the face of the arcade game. Fucking Tanaka.
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>>14638245
Samidare.
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>>14638233
Don't worry, at the current pace we've been getting K2s you don't have to worry about any other class getting a K2 until at least mid-summer.
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>>14638245
Atago.
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>>14638245
[all of them]
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>>14638245
Kaga
>>
Kasumi conversion Kai 2 as a kaiten carrier where you must spend real money to replace consumed kaiten
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>>14638245
Kaga, Akagi

Takao, and Atago so I can finally not look at their base art.
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>>14638245

Taihō
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>>14638245
fumizuki
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>>14638263
>>14638269
>>14638275
Shit taste.
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>>14638245

Graf Zeppelin
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>>14638245
Shinano
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>>14638245
Ooyodo for her Shiun.
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>>14638245
Prinz Eugen.

Nah, her K2 will never happen. Probably cost ten blueprints.
>>
http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/47567124.html
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>>14638245
Hiyou, Akashi, and Kinu/Natori
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>>14638245
Asashio
>>
>>14638245
Super Shimakaze
>>
>>14638245
Yuubari
>>
When is maint over?
>>
>>14638379
43 minutes
>>
Patch notes where?
>>
>>14638391
8 mins.
>>
>>14638391
Maintenance situation: [17:00] is complete prospect. Current "can this" running all server groups, is in maintenance and update work performed. The work is complete expected to [17:00] as planned. Accompanied to 16:30 today maintenance of implementation from around after this, we will inform the update information. # Ship this
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>>14638301
The horse one made me laugh.
>>
>>14638409
Yes.
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>>14638409
Probably this week.
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>>14638421
No
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>>14638421
Ehh.
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>>14638421
Muh dick, the clothes I mean.
>>
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>>14638421
>>
>>14638421
Adorable, but no hints as to her equipment.
Unless that's a 10cm HA+AAFD.
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>>14638431
>that little peek behind the torps
Konishi you absolute madman
>>
>>14638431
So angry!
>>
>>14638421
>>14638431
2cute
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>>14638431
>panties peek
>>
>>14638421
Hmm, I'm on the fence. Good annoyed expression though.
>>
>>14638431
I wish it showed just a tiny bit more.
>>
It begins.

本日実施中の「艦これ」稼働全サーバ群メンテナンスに伴う、アップデート情報をお知らせしていきます。

01▼駆逐艦「霞」改二改装の実装
駆逐艦「霞」のさらなる改装(改造)が、きわめて高い練度で可能となります。
※同改装に「改装設計図」は不要です。
>>
>>14638421
I like her clothes.
>>
>>14638447
Wait what. So she does need a blueprint?
>>
The devs died
>>
>>14638431
>both socks are the same length
This is suspicious
>>
>>14638455
>不要

Nope.
>>
>>14638455
Do you not know what 不要 means?
>>
>>14638455
>不要
Jesus this is elementary school level.
>>
>>14638455
Yes
>>
02▼駆逐艦「霞改二乙」コンバート実装
「霞改二」は、さらに高い練度で、防空能力の高い艦隊防空直援仕様「霞改二乙」にコンバート改装することが可能になります。
※同改装には「改装設計図」及び「開発資材」は不要です。
※バランスに優れた「霞改二」に再改装することも可能です
>>
>>14638461
>不要
Oh whoops. Totally misread that
>>
>>14638468
T A N A K A A A A A A A
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>>14638468
Another AA destroyer? Geez.
>>
>>14638468
wew lad
>>
>>14638468
>AA

Guess I can scrap Akizuki and Teruzuki now, thanks devs!
>>
>>14638475
I already have three. I can't take it anymore.
What map are these things even needed?
>>
03▼【新任務】の追加実装
下記の二つの新任務が新たに追加実装されます。
●旗艦「霞」北方海域を哨戒せよ!
●旗艦「霞」出撃!敵艦隊を撃滅せよ!
※それぞれの任務受諾には、トリガーとなる受諾条件達成が必要です。
>>
>>14638483
Rei-go final map most likely.
>>
>>14638468
>People scrambled to grind a cunt up to 80+ for this

LOVING EVERY LAUGH
>>
>>14638483

Summer 2015

Time to build a time machine

Although this might not bode well for this Winter, either.
>>
Server's up.
>>
04▼【艦隊防空直衛仕様艦】の対空カットイン弾幕
「霞改二乙」は、「高射砲」&「対空電探」及び「対空機銃」を装備することで、防空専門艦ほど強力ではありませんが、対空弾幕を張ることが可能です。また、精度は若干落ちますが「高射砲」&「対空機銃」でも同様の対空射撃が可能です。
>>
>>14638497
>not as powerful as professional air defense
Welp.
>>
>>14638493
I'm not kidding. Awww yeah.
>>
>>14638421
>>14638431
Perfection, the clothes makes her look even younger, not sore how to feel about that part, what lvl do we need tough.
>>
Don't panic yet, maybe her stats are decent.
>>
>>14638468
>AA
The dream is dead.
>>
>>14638482
>>14638475
At least some new players without akizuki class can get AA DD
>>
3-1 with Kasumi, 3 dds and 2 wildcards.
>>
Kai 2
Firepower: 62
Torpedo: 92
Luck: 37

Kai 2A requirement above 80.
>>
>>14638513
Bye bye Shigure.
>>
>>14638513
88

FUCKING 88
>>
I could K2 with Lv82, but couldn't K2A.
>>
Here I thought that her Kai 2 being released on my birthday was a sign. Now I see it as an ill omen.
I can't change my stat fag ways.
>>
Kasumi Kai 2 is stronger than Akatsuki and doesn't require as many Maruyus. You really can't ask for more.
>>
>>14638513
is this your prediction?
>>
>>14638513
>stronger than Shigure
Now I wait for the statsfags to marry her.
>>
>>14638511
>>
>>14638513
Great. I actually happened to have a set of Maruyu saved up.
>>
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>>14638523
No
>>
>muh daughteru will be the next target of statshitters
Triggered.
>>
Should I use my modernization fodder now, or should I level her up to K2A? She's level 80.
>>
I fucking told you she'd have Akatsuki's stats high relatively high luck. Goodbye Shiggy.
>>
>>14638431
THANK YOU BASED MONKEYMAN

What a qt
>>
>>14638513
Kai 2A gains a white headband like the Fukous and red suspenders
>>
Wow. two 130k coin furniture.
>>
Why are they throwing mame now? What are they celebrating? Fucking Japan.
>>
>>14638533
Well she worked really fucking hard for it, I think she deserved it.
>>
>>14638522
>>14638524
>>14638513
I spoke too soon. >>14638520
I'll continue with the plan. I'll give her my first ring!
>>
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Wait, what's on the right side?
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>>14638540
Disgusting faggot.
>>
>>14638540
disgusting
>>
Some of you faggots had her at 90+, give us her Kai 2B stats already.
>>
So does K2A need a blueprint?
>>
>>14638541
Discount by using fairy.
>>
>>14638541
Spend a furniture token, get a discount. No fucking reason to use the right option.
>>
>>14638517
>>14638526
>>14638533

>people leaving her

Please don't be mean, her allies already left her alone once.
>>
>>14636670
HAHAHAHA
>>
>>14638547
Yeah I got it by the time I accidentally bought the sortie map. FUCK MY LIFE.
>>
>>14638548
That's one hell of a discount
>>
>>14638554
Please. I can get that amount of coins in a week.
>>
Anything on second form stats?
>>
>>14638541
>>14638547
>>14638548
From now on we'll be getting questions about this.
Kinda like that guy who married Imuya
>>
>>14638550
Honestly, I am thinking about marrying Shigure.
It's either her or Kasumi as of right now. I'll marry both, eventually.
>>
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About time this is a thing.
>>
* New
Open all/half/10 of furniture coin box.
>>
So should I keep her at Kai Ni at level 80, or should I go for K2B? What's the pros and cons of each then?
>>
>>14638556
So hers is a K2B.
>>
>>14638530
>she was my daughteru before she was popular guys!
I believe you
>>
>>14638513
Combine this with relatively high AA for her AACI role. Is kasumi the jackest of all trades?
>>
11▼「五十鈴改二」の対空カットイン弾幕上方修正
軽巡洋艦「五十鈴改二」の対空弾幕射撃が上方修正され、彼女の従来の対空カットイン弾幕の火力が増強されました。また、前述の艦隊防空直衛仕様艦としての対空弾幕も可能になりました。
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>>14638563
No more coins wasted
>>
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>>14638474
>>14638475
>>14638476
>>14638479
>>14638510
>>14638490
>>14638482
This is why you fucking wait until maint is over.
>>
K2A max stats:
59 FP
83 Torp
80 AA
52 Armor
>>
>>14638563
Box opening? If so, then hell yes.
>>
>>14638555
do you spam 3-3 and exped 6?
>>
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Don't leave the girl that loves you the most.
>>
>>14638571
12▼「瑞穂」「清霜」少しだけ節分modeの実装
水上機母艦「瑞穂」、駆逐艦「清霜」に少しだけ節分modeが実装されます。
>>
>>14638571
Izuzu time to shine?
>>
>>14638577
3 PLANES
>>
>>14638574
Even at K2A she puts Shigure to shame. What's her luck?
>>
>>14638580
13▼期間限定【節分ボイス】の大規模実装
今年は期間限定【節分ボイス】が、新旧合わせてや90余隻の「艦娘」に実装されます。節分の季節の「艦これ」と「艦娘」たちもどうぞよろしくお願い致します!
>>
>>14638578
I don't. I'm saying I can.
>>
>>14638577
>Give Kasumi an AACI-focused remodel
>Buff Isuzu's in the same patch
Little fuck deserves it.
>>
>>14638577
So they finally buff her AACI to be on the same level as Maya and Akiduki?
>>
>>14638584
37
>>
>>14638584
Same as K2.
>>
>>14638577
Fuck yes true ichiban buffed, inb4 its from 3 to 4 planes only.
>>
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>>14638545
I'm not going to remodel her till the rest of her class gets remodels. All or nothing.
>>
>>14638587
Kasumi has two remodels.
>>
There is another limited time quest.
>>
>>14638592
LOL see you in three years.
>>
Let's get the terminology right. There is no K2A. There is only K2 and K2B. The word they use is 乙.
>>
Can't wait for more Wo Kai Ultra spam next event.
>>
>>14638598
cvb
>>
>88

What the fuck kill me
>>
>>14638594
Ugh.
>>
>Can equip Daihatsu and FCF
Pretty gud
>>
If you didn't marry Kasumi before the remodel, you are a bandwagon faggot, no excuses.
>>
For some reason I'm happier I get to ditch Shiggy than getting Kasumi.
>>
霞改二:LV75
霞改二乙:LV 88
>>
>>14638607
Can also equip large radars
>>
>>14638608
Don't worry, I already have a waifu.
>>
>>14638611
No fucking way.
>>
>>14638609
She keeps failing me. Glad I can drop her now.
>>
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Goddamn Fujikawa, you're getting lazy.
>>
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Ayyyy
>>
>>14638607
>>14638611
Looks like we've got ourselves a new elite here boys.
>>
Why the fuck are they using 甲 for the cranes and 乙 for Kasumi? It's completely arbitrary.
>>
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>>14638607
Oh
>>
>people like unironically Kashishit
How
>>
>>14638621
This changes everything.
>>
>>14638621
This better not be shopped.
>>
>>14638620
I can already see handjob edits happening, he has brought hell this time.
>>
>>14638620
Cutes gumo only gets cuter.

I'd let her throw beans at me any day.
>>
>>14638607
>>14638611
>>14638621
>>14638622
>>14638626

Holy fucking shit
>>
>>14638621
No Pre-torp?
>>
>>14638621
Permanent expedition slut confirmed.
>>
>>14638620
Im sure he's being held back by potatofucker, you should know all the art he did for magazines and such.
>>
>>14638627
She's cute. Cute is justice.
>>
Can also do opening torp
>>
>>14638627
Kashima?
>>
>>14638636
Nah, can't equip midget subs.
>>
>>14638620
All of his sprite never change pose except for bikini akashi hand
>>
>>14638642
>no proof
>>
>>14638642
No way
>>
>>14638627
I'm not a fan of her new uniform, unfortunately it's going to be the standard for the whole class later on.
>>
Can also suck my dick.
>>
is it normal that the game site takes ages to load right now?
Have refreshed the page two times and now I've been waiting 5 mins at least and it's just a blank loading page
>>
>>14638611
>>14638614
>>14638648
>>14638621
Large radars on Kai 2 B only. Daihatsu and FCF on both.
>>
Is the new Kasumi K2 quest limited time?
>>
>>14638654
Yes, it's always like this after updates.
>>
>Kasumi K2A
>better AA than every DD except the Akizuki class
>3rd place in firepower with FuMO equipped
>37 luck

T O P
T I E R
>>
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Kasumi is now the best destroyer by a mile.
>>
>>14638648
>2 10cm HA + type 14 radar
God bless.
>>
any results on which AACI api she uses in k2b?
>>
>>14638660
It's Kai 2B.
>>
>>14638648
T32 isn't a big deal since they can already get that much accuracy with T22K4. Large Air radar isn't a big deal either since Akizuki still beats her in AA. Fumo might be something but I'm not impressed. The daihatsu though. I'm drooling at the increased income.
>>
>>14638660
Stop shilling your shitty FOTM DD, retard.
>>
>>14638663
>type 14 radar
Where is FuMO or super Type 21?
>>
Did they change Isuzu's background at least?
>>
>>14638643
I was going to say "Kasushit" but I'm too retarded.
>>
>>14638660
>2 torps + FuMO
I can already imagine the yasen damage.
>>
>>14638654
Try setting your time zone to Japan again. I find they give preferential treatment to those with Japan time right after updates
>>
>>14638607
So when will they remove the 4 daihatsu cap on expeds?
>>
>>14638673
No, someone has a personal vendetta against her.
>>
>Ships I hate getting stupid K2s

Just end my life now. Guess I'll have to level her for a statbitch though.
>>
>>14638608
I'm not going to marry her after the remodel either.
>>
>>14638683
Wait, she's better than Poi and Beaver?
>>
>>14638683
>kicked out

A club is suppose to expand, they need to welcome her.
>>
>>14638676
Oh thanks man, now it worked immediately.
>>
Time to get her from 82 to 88 now I guess, 4-3 here I come!
>>
>>14638690
Do you do it continuously with occasional morale breaks or swap out
>>
Kasumi kai ni otsu cannot equip Fleet Command Facility by the way.
>>
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Have you praised your new goddess?
>>
>>14638688
>can only bring 6 DDs at most
It's a kick.
>>
>options added to open only 10 or half your coin boxes
neat.
>>
>KONO KUSO GA
I like it.
>>
>>14638686
None of them can use daihatsu m8
>>
>>14638692
Swap outs if I really want to push the grind all day.

Morale if I'm doing something else on the side.
>>
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>135000
>>
>>14638683
Not really. She still works as an accessible option for luck cut-in, more so than the average DD.
>>
I don't think I've ever been so unhappy for getting a new elite ship. What a strange feeling.
>>
>>14638691
ABKM
Shimakaze
Yukikaze
Poi
Ayanami
Kasumi

RIP IN PIECES Shigure.
>>
Anons on suicide watch
>>
>>14638705
They jew'd so hard in this update, their showing their true colors.
>>
>>14638705
This is the first time I ran out of furniture boxes in a long time.
>>
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Anyone know what the new max AA is for Isuzu?
>>
>>14638694
It is the power of headpats, I fucking told you kusos, praise your daughterus and they will grow strong, next is Asashio Im feeling it.
>>
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>>14638710
Fugg :DDDD
>>
>>14638710
Where is bucky? :^(
>>
>>14638700
Ok, but for elites I'm not exactly considering someone on expeditions.
Unless you mean she's good at TP bars
>>
>>14638712
Nah, I'm good. Kasumi doesn't belong in my elite team.
>>
Okay, now where is the Android update?
>>
>>14638721
Yes exactly that.
Daihatsu > drums.

>>14638720
Nobody care about shitbuki. Keep her in your shit fleet.
>>
>>14638705
I payed the full price for both and still haven't touched my black/red boxes. I'm really glad I finally had something to spend capped coins and 900something brown boxes on.
>>
>>14638710
I hate Shitmakaze, so Shigure is still in.
>>
>>14638723
At least half of the people are, or were depending on their nature.
>>
>>14638717
Does it not show up on your reader? If you're using one
>>
>>14638712
Naw, I'm good with it. I always like new Kai Nis.
>>
>>14638717
84
>>
>>14638727
Rude!
>>
>>14638719
Why are you comparing a fully remodeled and fully modernized girl to a half remodeled and half modernized one?
>>
Statfags are the worst
>>
>>14638734
Yeah, I figured that out after the fact. I'm just retarded.
>>
>>14638717
Is was buffed? I thought they just increased her AACI ability. Mine is still max at 84.
>>
>>14638736
Well I'm going to pump that bitch full of modernization fodder once I get her to 88.
>>
What's the point of her being able to carry FCF anyway? That's just wasted and she needs to be in the main fleet to activate.
>>
>>14638747
It's because she was the flagship of Operation Rei-Go. Basically a symbolic gesture.
>>
>>14638540
I decided once again, not marrying her. I can't marry a tsundere, never got the appeal. I also shouldn't marry a ship just because it is more capable than some.
I'm going to take my time choosing a ship. Maybe this next event will give me what I'm looking for.
>>
>>14638748
Shots fired.
>>
>>14638747
Homage to Ooyodo for Rei go?
>>
>>14638747
Just wait for a new combined fleet comp with 10 DDs
:^)
>>
>>14638710
Im never using potatonami, so better for me.
>>
>>14638743
Nah, I just read the tweet wrong. Thought they buffed her AA, not the AACI itself. I'm just dumb.
>>
>>14638747
More rat-runner combined fleet I suppose. You can take it off your CL.
>>
>>14638725
Twitter is down. Coincidence?
>>
>>14638752
What a fag
>>
>>14638761
Read the thread.
>>
>>14638752
wew lad
>>
>>14638763
oops misquote
>>
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first Kasumi quest gives Type 13 Radar Kai and riceball, then another Kasumi quest shows up.

Kasumi + 3 Destroyers and 2 extras, sortie to 2-4 im assuming (and not 2-5)
>>
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>>14638754
>Kasumi flag routing on final map for easy as fuck route
>>
>>14638770
So basically the 2-4 monthly again?
>>
>>14638770
>Type 13 Radar Kai
Great, it's not like I'm overflowing with them or anything.
>>
>>14638774
Think of it as a sign.
>>
>>14638773
There's a 2-4 Monthly?
>>
>Kashima's lines
She's so, so fucking cute.
>>
Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that Kusomi isn't really elite?
>>
>>14638785
>63 FP
>92 Torp
>37 Luck
>not elite
>>
>>14638785
It's still way too early for the denial to have worn off yet anon, what you;re feeling is perfectly normal.
>>
>>14638785
kusoboner pls
>>
>>14638785
>>14638789
>>14638790
Here: reply
>>
I still can't believe she can equip large radars, this is insane.
>>
What's Kasumi's consumption at K2 and K2B?
>>
Does anyone like her uniform? It's pretty cute.
>>
>>14638782
Oh fuck, never mind. That's the 1-4 quest. Forget I said anything
>>
>>14638799
There's nothing about her remodel that I hate.
>>
>>14638795
She can equip other larger objects like my dick
>>
>>14638799
Fuck yeah man, she looks fucking good.
>>
>>14638785
>isn't really elite
LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH

This delusion. Easily second cutest Konishi girl after ABKM K2. Top tier stats. Can equip things that other destroyers can only dream off.
>>
/jp/sies finally started bashing Shigure? Is this the real life?
>>
Oh the special remodel has uneven footwear.
>>14638799
Of course, she was always cute, now she's even cuter.
>>
>>14638806
>second cutest Konishi girl after ABKM K2

The shittiest of shit taste.
>>
>>14638807
Wasn't Shigure only elite because of her luck?
>>
>>14638813
But /a/ fucking loves Shigure.
>>
>>14638815
She wont because she's always paired with Yuudachi and gang.
>>
Kasumi finally got a cute sprite
>>
>>14638807
>>14638815
>>>/a/
>>
>>14638815
>his
>he

Anon
>>
>>14638813
/a/ thinks Shigure is a cute boy, not shit.
>>
>>14638807
I never like Shigure.
>>
>>14638807
It was going to start when Akatsuki got her Kai 2 but her luck let her down.
>>
>>14638816
Yes, I don't know why everyone is going so crazy about it. Even though Shigure is my #2 I always knew she was sub-par.
>>
So where's the Satsuki/Nagatsuki kai ni?
>>
>>14638828
Fuck you, I'm not going anywhere. Finally something good happened.
>>
Threads are going to be lively again it seems.
>>
>>14638835
After the event.
>>
>>14638835
Probably right before or after the event.
>>
>>14638837
Not even the Abukuma shitstorm was this big/bad. Shigurefags got cocky.
>>
Her MVP line is so cute.
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>>14638831
Her stats are sub par but most people wont use Shitbuki or Lady to replace her.
Kasumi now has both top tier stats and sprite.
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Cool beans.
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>>14638844
There wasn't a huge shitstorm because nobody realized her potential and delegated her into permanent expedition slut territory. It wasn't untill the event that her true colours were shown.
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>>14638847
>If you love Shigure, I'm telling you to fuck off to /a/.
I don't. Actually, I started hating her during the Summer event. Fucking choker and taiha magnet.
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>STILL no Agano class seasonal art
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How does one use that discount thingy?

I don't get any pop up showing the option.
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>>14638860
That's for a store promo, not for the game.
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>>14638855
What? People knew how good her TypeA torpedo was. They just didn't expect Devs to block out CLTs.
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>>14638853
>little abyssal faces
They're catching up with the memes.
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>>14638860
Never
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>>14638869
No, she's in 3rd or 4th place depending on how you look at it.
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>>14638864
Go look up patch thread in archive, it's 99% expedition slut or Oyodo/Jintsu still better.
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>>14638850
I don't care too much for Akatsuki and Fubuki outside of being cute so I never used them. If I end up liking Kasumi she's going to replace Ayanami.
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>>14638869
Sounds like you don't even have room for Maruyu.
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>>14638867
>no shitkawa promo
Even the devs realize how shitty Shitkawa is.
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>>14638867
I have a feeling someone is missing here, but I'm not sure.
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>>14638847
>>14638843
>>14638833
Are you the same retard who shitposts in /a/ about Shigure being a boy?

Kill yourself you inbred. Shigure is hardly by favorite character but both boards would be better off without you.
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So regarding to winter event, looks like we need Kasumi, Ashigara, Ooyodo, Asashimo and Kiyoshimo for fixed routes.

Well fuck me I haven't even leveled those DDs yet.
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>>14638861
You use a fairy for a discount. I think the furniture must have needed a fairy before this patch

All they changed was let you buy without fairies but with a much higher cost
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>>14638879
>>14638880
It's from Sakawa's POV.
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>>14638882
At least you have them, there's some stupid fucks who got rid of their Kasumi and Kiyoshimo despite being warned for months they'd be needed in Winter.
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Looks good for a garage kit.
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>>14638869
Buy new slot?
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>>14638879
They're just saving the best/worst for last.
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It's literally the same fucking guy from /a/ posting all these anti shigure posts. Take your toxic harem show culture and fuck right back off there.
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>>14638881
>Shigure
>boy
What? Why? Hiei and Mogami make sense, but Shigure?
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>>14638887
>Kiyoshimo
I refused to believe that.

She's like, one of rares you aim for during events because fuck 4-5.

Are people that dumb?
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>>14638900
>Hiei
Not with those funbags and feminine speech.
>>
Kasumi's API identity seems to be 16, which is a unique ID. Hoping for something like -5 or -6 planes per slot.
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>>14638902
Plenty of people do dumb things on Can This.
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>>14638900
They also say it about Mogami. Their grounds for Shigure are baseless, the only actual defense I've heard is "look at those thighs!"
It's just faggotry, anon.
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>>14638900
I have no clue. But the fucking idiot spams it every day on /a/. It makes getting translations there incredibly irritating.
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>>14638887
I wish those who don't have Rei-go fleet would get the short end of the stick filled with Wo Kai 4, PT boats, night battle, and 5-node routing.
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>>14638887
>scrapping ships
>scrapping daughterus
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>>14638902
Some people scrap trophy DDs the moment they get the dex entry.
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There's no way you guys just use all the best ships right?

I don't use Ayanami because of potato
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>scrapping Shigure
Literally why
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>>14638911
No they only say that because she uses boku. Fucking retards the lot of 'em. /a/ is fucking garbage nowadays you can't go into a single thread about girls and not have people flinging shit at each other for the tiniest detail.
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>>14638909
What about Isuzu?
Did they buff the AACI or change her API?
I played on stock browser so I can see them.
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>>14638920
Statfags are very much a thing.
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>>14638920
People even >rank here, you shouldnt be surprised at all.
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>>14638920
I refuse to use Abukuma because reasons and absolutely loath Bismarck and Yamato.
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>>14638922
>can't go 5 post without a Kagafag posting Kaga
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When will we get daily quests to sortie to 3-1 boss node?
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>>14638920
I don't use speedslut because she's an annoying fuck.
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>>14638928
Yes
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>>14638922
Oh yeah, that's right. Forgot about boku.
Trap lovers will always exist. It's unavoidable.
>>
Powerleveling Kasumi from 1 to 80 at 4-3, how long does it take?
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>>14638934
about 45 minutes ignoring hp/morale
but in reality unless you pay you won't be able to level that fast
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>>14638934
Yes.
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>>14638934
161 sorties, assuming constant MVP and no Ta node, so 3 days maximum of NEET and morale swapping
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>>14638920
I haven't used any "elite" ships or ships with special routing at all to finish last 3 events on hard, only "common" ones I like. But cowards will keep using elites since they are cowards, there's no use arguing with fools like that.
>>
4chan needs to have a mass reporting function. Having to wait between each report is fucking retarded when there's a chain shit poster like this.
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>>14638624
>why are they using the word "armor" to describe a carrier with an armored deck, it's completely arbitrary
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>>14638944
There was, don't you remember?
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>>14638934
14-16 hours at most if you swap.
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>>14638944
Maybe you need to have a self-moderation and hide the posts you don't like, retard.
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Does /jp really hate Shigure or is this one autist spamming?
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>>14638949
As if we needed any more evidence that the guy is cancer from /a/, out he comes with the fucking Umaru post.
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>>14638941
>But cowards will keep using elites since they are cowards, there's no use arguing with fools like that.
You made me laugh, nice try Hatsuharufag.
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>>14638951
/jp/ hates Fubuki, last time I checked.
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>>14638954
He's right tough.
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Game's bugged. I don't see the modernization option
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>>14638956
I mean there's every reason to hate Fubuki. Shigure not so much.
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>>14638949
why would you equip the gimped version for anything other than AACI anyways
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>>14638951
Shigure utterly dominated a popularity poll here not too long ago and statfags have always been resented. What do you think?
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>>14638960
Modernization? It's right there
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>>14638960
>lvl44
Hahahahaha, look at this pleb.
Enjoy your 44level of grind remaining.
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>>14638964
The sprite is better.
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>>14638960
Give me your API link, I know how to fix it
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>>14638960
Scrap her first, then you'll see it.
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>>14638960
Think you need to scrap her and raise a new one
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>>14638965
You know what's worse than a statsfag? A special little snowflake hipster faggot.
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>>14638961
spotted the crossie
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>>14638956
Everyone who isn't a secondary or hipster hates Fubuki.
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>>14638949
>>14638964
>gimped
But it's the version that can equip large radars.
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>>14638770

it was actually 2-5, the resources reward was a hint after all. Quest reward was 25mm concentrated deployment AA guns.
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>>14638970
I've been in these threads forever and I've never seen anyone shove shigure in anybody's face. This is literally /a/ shitposting.
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>>14638621
What the fuck. Fuck you devs, now every DD with kai 2 needs kai 3 to play with this.
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>>14638972
>red backpack handles
>better
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>>14638980
I don't hate Fubuki, but I don't love her either. She's just another common DD.
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>>14638973
they already killed api
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>all these deleted posts.
Ah, the justice. How sweet thee.
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>>14638954
The game is already very easy and stats matter little. Using "elites" on top of it is just pure cowardice no matter how you spin it.
>>
There we go. Told you it was just one fag.
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>>14638956
No, you're misunderstanding, when there's slapping noises and her screams coming from my office all night, it's actually just sex.
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>>14638989
Pretty much, she also has the best potatosprite by far, people started hating on her heavily after "ruining" muh animu.
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>All the deleted posts

Jesus fucking christ the state of that autist.
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Butt
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>>14638999
Anyone who think the anime is canon must never have even known the girls. The anime is literally fanon shit thrown together to appease people.
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If only /jp/ mod could do the same for /a/.
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>>14639003
I want to take a long hard sniff at that butt.
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>>14639009
Almost everyone on /a/ does this. If mods cleaned up there'd be literally no posts.
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Can Kasumi equip the Yamato radar?
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>>14638999
I started hating her when she exploded 10 times in a row on the first node on 3-5.
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>>14639012
>Almost everyone on /a/ does this
I don't know why you're still under the /a/ vs /jp/ mentality, but no they don't. /a/ is exactly the same as here; majority posters are decent and a few shitposters ruin threads.
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>>14639013
Try it.
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>>14639012
That would be awesome, I could finally post there again.
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>>14639015
Go onto any harem thread. If the same rules apply the whole thread would be purged. It's pretty much impossible to discuss anything.
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>>14639013
That radar is BB only.
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>>14639013
>Can a DD equip the BB-only radar?
I don't know, what do you think?
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>>14639003
How'd you get that?
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>>14639016
I don't have Kasumi to K2 yet. If she does, I'll powerlevel her there just for the Yamato radar shenanigans in a heartbeat.
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>>14639021
He's talking about the kancolle thread. People would rather see translations than more yurispammer, boyspammer, /k/ spam, etc.
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>>14639013
Kiyoshimo K2 will be able to equip it.
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Is it alright to max Kasumi's Kai2 before I upgrade to her Kai 2 B or will I lose my mod completely?
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>>14639032
There's really no reason to upgrade her to Kai 2B.
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>>14639035
For what reason?
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>>14639037
AA is useless on DD's
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>>14639035
What's the difference anyway between A and B anyway?
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>>14639041
There's no A version.
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>>14639038
Except for Akizuki since she still has the best AA stats and AACI proc.
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>>14639041
AA 72 > AA 90+

>>14639044
Higher fleet wide AA give you higher chance of wiping out all the planes from CV hime.
You cannot expect every bomber slot to be assigned to Akiduki.
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>>14639035
Extra actual LoS + accuracy from T32 or AACI with a fumoffu are good reasons.
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>>14639050
>shitbuki
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>>14639028
>translations
Fuck off dweeb. Ungrateful EOPs like you don't deserve jackshit.
Get out of /jp/ now
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>>14639050
A new closed window which doesn't look like shit? Damn, gotta buy it as soon as possible.
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>>14639059
But I'm one of the translators you retard.
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>>14639050
Yeah, I had to use my 1300 small boxes, 300 medium and 50 large boxes to get my coins back up to 180k after buying the stained glass.
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>>14639050
>Ooyodo gone
>Makigumo gone
>Kamo gone
It was fun while it lasted.
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>>14639054
But that only applies for CF, but when it comes to that, you'd have to use Maya with 2 90mm, 25mm Deployment, and FUMO for better chances of disabling enemy CVs,. while Akizuki is great for single fleet and usage of AACI.
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>>14639072
No, I'm here to tell you Kasumi is a lovely girl who deserves what she got today.
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>>14639074
No, she doesn't deserve it. It's just out of necessity because she's star of the event and nothing more.
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>>14639050
>using off-season furniture
Nigga you fucked up.
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>>14639074
>kusomifag
Better kill yourself then.
Completely undeserved otaku pandering K2.
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>>14639074
>Kasumi is a lovely girl
Are you serious? Her personality is only slightly better than Akebono.
They didn't even give her new lines or a better personality.
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>some DD gets remodel
>suddenly everyone goes apeshit
>"My DD is better than your DD!"
>"NO MY DD HAS MORE STATS!"
Never change /jp/.
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>>14639094
They did, keep poking her.
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>>14639070
You always need to bring a min of 2DD.
Why would you not bring one that has high yasen damage, capable of cut-in and has one of the highest AA outside of Akiduki?
You are not bringing her for AACI, you bring to increase fleetwide AA.

Mizuho is a qt. I also realize that they update the new bath, it now comes with petals and sake. Time to buy it now.
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>>14638563
Fuck that shit. They still eat my coins whenever I open boxes that will get my coins over 200k. For what reason they haven't removed this stupid 200k limit?
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>>14639098
DDs are very important in the game, it's only natural.
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>>14639099
Isn't that for Setsubun?
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>>14639098
What do you expect? Discussing BBs when a DD gets a remodel? Aren't you just a retard?
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Ah fuck it, I'm going back to actively leveling the DD I actually like.
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>>14639122
I am a Shigurefag and I like the new Kasumi.
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>>14639129
Cool.
>>
I hope we get more angry Kasumi lewds now.
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>>14639122
Are you going to marry her?
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>>14639122
I bet Yabun would make a good bartender.
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>>14639135
Angry lewds are my favorite lewds
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>>14639122
Nowacchi is the cutest.
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>>14639136
Eventually. I don't know whether my first ring will go to her or Kumano.
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>>14639100
Why would you need to increase further your fleet AA when you have Maya+3CV which are capable of disable Wo Kai 4 already? Either you use Yuudachi+CI or 2 CI DDs. That only causes a waste of space, and the last Summer Event should be your guideline because one ship that causes a bottleneck will drastically decrease your firepower to beat AA Hime. Yes, I beat her on hard fyi.
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>>14639134
Thanks.
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This will never be my favorite DD and it feels really bad.
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>>14639180
>using unremodelled Oゆ
>ever
what are you, fucking retarded?
>>
>>14639187
I think he's just showing off the amount of luck and the upcoming Maruyus.
>>
Will all Kai Ni come with the ability to use special snowflake equipment now?
>>
Can't be fucked to level her to 88, 75 and simple k2 look like they would be fine for now, decent stats and FCF should suffice for the event. Off the pvp team she goes. Also waiting for translation of her new lines, don't think I understand everything, being filthy EOP and all.
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>>14639274
Hopefully.
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>>14639275

I admire you for playing a game that is not in your language, but seriously go fucking learn another language already.
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>>14636905
>that one animator from Trigger who kept drawing Haruna on animation sheets
What are you talking about, Anon?
>>
>>14639278
What's next?

DD with planes? CL with Zuiun? Kiyoshimo with BB guns?
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>>14639283
Kiyoshimo with 46cms and Yamato radar with no overweight penalty.
>>
Why does Kasumi Kai Ni not coming with any equipment? She is not a spoil of war like verniy.
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>>14639283
Smoke generators.
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>>14639278

Hopefully not.
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>>14639294
Devs too lazy to figure out how to only give equipment when you remodel her for the first time.
>>
The new 130k and 135k coins furnitures came with a really shitty feature.
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>>14639294
KancolleDevs can't into adding a variable to prevent equipment from appearing more than once.
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>>14639286
And maximum base firepower of 0.
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>>14639299
Why not? It adds some diversity and makes some units less generic.
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>>14639286
Look at these delusional kiyofag
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>>14639280
Well, during my childhood I had to play games in english, which I had little to no understanding at the time, so that isn't really a new experience for me. Having watched about two hundred japanese cartoons subbed, I got the basic vocabulary and could possibly hold a conversation with a native on simple topics, but written japanese looks like too much of a pain, given I don't even plan going there.
In the end, I decided to stick with this shipgirl manager 2015 because it fulfills my fapping needs, the long-latent desire for a farmville-type game I escaped for many years and finally accepted, and warship game, of which there are two dead projects and one I can't stand.
>>
Finally, a chance to use all these furniture coin boxes.
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>>14639317
I'm an Asashimofag and I don't like the best BB meme. I haven't even sortied Kiyoshimo once. I do admit that I would love my idea to team up with >>14639308, however
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>>14639345
And without wasting coins if the boxes go over the cap!
What a day...
>>
When will the kotatsu change into the mikan version?
>>
FUCKING 200k LIMIT I HATE THIS GAME.
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>>14639294
Because you can do k2 > k2b > k2 anytime.
So they added some quests instead.
>>
>red T at 2-5 boss
God fucking damn it. Kasumi even sniped flag at yasen node so they got there easily.
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>>14639331

But by learning Japanese your fapping will be more efficient. Don't need to wait for the translation to enjoy the doujin.
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>>14639368

Hmm, make sense.
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>>14638572
Unless you forget about retardedly low 200k limit.
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>>14638607
I think all the DDs can equip FCF
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>>14639368
See >>14639300 >>14639304. They are just lazy.
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>>14639426
Nope
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>>14639426
DDs and subs can't.
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>>14638830
Anon pls.
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>>14638929
>Shimakaze
>slut
>annoying
No
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>>14638874
You do. It was immediately noticed she's only 6 points behind Jintsuu in yasen power.
Unless you mean those few retards who thought she sucks just because she can't oneshot Ru Kai with opening torp. There were plenty of people who quickly realized her potential and well before Summer event she was already mentioned as #1 blueprint priority.
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>>14639304
>Kancolle
>small c
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>>14639420
My dick is diamonds.
>>
>>14639453
>only 6 points behind Jintsuu

What
>>
So I guess there's no reason to convert Kasumi into her B form at all right now. There's also pretty much no way her B form's AACI will beat the Akizukis.
>>
>>14638941
>>14638959
>>14638996
The last time I didn't play for stats I failed to clear the event. Never again.

If I'm called a coward because of that then so be it but I'd rather be called a coward than fail to clear an event again.

>>14638999
>>14639006
So in other words, /jp/ is full of secondaries.

Figures.
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>>14639473
You better play KanColle the same way I play it or else
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>>14639476
Or else what? You fail this time?
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>>14639464
Midget sub has 12 torpedo more than Yamato plane.
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>>14639473
I cleared Summer without ABKM, or elites. I used German DDs.
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>>14639484
Clear it with Mutsukis next time, coward
>>
I got rid of so many DDs awhile ago from hitting the limit, and now they're flooding my ranks again.

DDs are annoying.
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>>14639484
You're gay.
>>
>>14639489
KTKM please. DDs are necessary.
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>>14639484
Sorry, taking silly risks like that isn't my thing. Go ahead and do it yourself if you must but don't force your opinions on others.
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>>14639489
Go away Kitakami, DDs are the best.
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>>14639482
So? I can put 3 quints on Jintsuu if I wanted to.
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>>14639505
We're talking about relevant setups, fool.
Nobody uses TCI on Jintsuu.
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>>14639488
Seeing as how Shigure and Yukikaze are fucking worthless when I send them out, I use Mutsukis, Fubukis, and the Germans all the time without any issues.
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>>14639473
>As a label, "cowardice" indicates a failure of character in the face of a challenge.[1]
Yep, you are a certified coward.
>>
>>14639522
Yeah, so be it.

Like I said, better a coward who succeeds than a hero who fails.
>>
>>14639473
She went from whobuki to shitbuki.
She was one of the least popular starter and shitbafu never did have a good rep over here.
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>>14639531
>/jp/ unironically considers the anime canon
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>>14639539
Go away crossboarder.
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>>14639492
I never forced anything on anyone. I said I cleared it with sub-par stat ships, using that anecdotal evidence to support my claim that yes, playing for cute and winning can be done.

I started in November of 2014, and Summer 2015 is the only event I cleared.I don't fear failing an event
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>>14639544
>considers the anime canon
>calls me a crossboarder
Okay.
>>
>>14639546
Learn how to read and stop misusing quote function.
>>
>>14639553
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_fixedness
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>>14639420
>Not K2B for superior stocking
you had one job
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>>14639553
>misusing quote function
It's called greentexting.
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>>14639545
>Summer 2015 is the only event I cleared.I don't fear failing an event
You will never understand the mentality of people who have to keep up with the maximum possible number of A class medals.
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>>14639545
You can play for cute and stats, because every girl is cute.
>>
Kasumi looks so good now, I want to impregnate her against her will.
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>>14639561
I can understand statfags, but you are correct that I will never understand the people that need the maximum A-class medals. I wasn't even high enough level to attempt the first, and I skipped the EOs to LSC for Bismarck.

Spring I failed because BB-Hime walled everything I could throw at her for two straight weeks

Fall I failed because BB-Hime walled me again on E4.
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>>14639575
BB Hime is so squishy though. Even DD DAs penetrate her.
>>
Did you guys use the furniture fairies to buy the expensive new furnitures for cheap?
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>>14639579
What you think is penetration is actually scratch damage. DDs can consistently do 40 damage to her until she's almost dead. Then none of their shots will hit.
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>>14639580
There's no point.

In fact I hope I can buy the currently existing equipment without using furniture fairies.
>>
>>14639580
No, but I'm almost out of boxes now

Will do some exp6 for a little for some baux anyway
>>
>>14639583
My autism doesn't let me open red boxes and I'd barely be able to buy them opening the common and some of the blue ones, I wonder if they will just keep adding expensive furniture like this at a fast rate.
>>
>>14639579
Tell that to KTKM who whiffed or scratched every torp CI she aimed at BB Hime. RNG had it in for me during Spring.
>>
I have no coins because I have no reason to spam exp 6 nowadays since I'm out of LSC hell.
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>>14639581
I know what is penetration.
Inazuma with two +4 Akizuki guns has 49 + 79 + 10 = 138 yfp = 2 * 165 with DA.
Poi with two +9 Akizuki guns has 73 + 93 + 12 = 178 yfp = 2 * 213 with DA.
BB Hime rolls 112-208 armor.
Poi is expected to do total ~100 damage even with ammo penalty. Any DD can deal noticeable damage with good roll or crit.
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>>14639575
>>14639561
>people that need the maximum A-class medals.
Look at all these kusofags justifying their shortcoming.

LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH
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>>14639594
Your fault for not using DA on her. TCI is only excused on ships with 40+ luck or ABKM.
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>>14639593
They are there to be used m8.

>>14639594
>Torres
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>>14639575
spring??
fall??
The map where you can bring multiple torpedo sluts?
How do you fucking fail them?
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>>14639605
At some point red boxes became trophy status for me, I just can't do it.
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>>14639575
There's a reason it was called e-peen medal when it first came out. It's just for bragging rights purposes, and if you miss even one you can't get the maximum anymore.

>>14639599
Sup Hatsuharufag.
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>>14639611
That was Shiggy. Lesbos cleaned up CV Hime for S rank.
Drop FCF for last dance, they said.
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>>14639611
Terrible RNG. First ship would get her to single digits, and everything else would whiff

>>14639602
Everytime I tried that she was a taiha magnet. Fall reinforced that.
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>>14639620
FCF should only be dropped for last dance if the boss node is tanky enough to justify suijou (i.e. 2+ BB hime-tier or higher enemies that aren't the flagship).
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>>14639620
I do that now, but only because I have damecon DDs for clutching. Dropping FCF before Summer was retarded.
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>>14639632
I dropped it for winter no problem.
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>>14639564
Yukikaze isn't cute.
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>>14639599
>being a hipster
>not kuso
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>>14639642
Yes she is
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>>14639642
Don't say something you'll regret later anon.
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>>14639580
Why would anyone ever do that? Even if they do add expensive furniture frequently, it boils down to pick one between an expensive item and a fairy-only item. If the expensive item is better than any remaining fairy item, it's worth farming coins for.

>>14639593
>My autism doesn't let me open red boxes
Explain further.
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>>14639654
>Explain further
If I could explain it properly I wouldn't call it autism to begin with, it simply feels wrong for me to open them.
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>>14639661
Why don't you just kill yourself then? It must hurt to live.
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>>14639662
It's alright, worst case scenario I will buy some furniture fairies and regret it later.
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>>14639593
me

I haven't opened any red boxes since the first day. It's not like I have lots of them, though.
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>>14639661
>>14639670
There's got to be more to it than that. What's causing that feeling? Is there some childhood trauma involving red boxes? Is there some repressed memory involving a red box you've refused to face?
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>>14639673
They're like treasures, collecting them and seeing the collection grow is fun, I bet lots of people feels similarly about medals or A-medals too.
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I'll clear the event on hard guys!
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Do I need to turn Kasumi into K2B to get her CG?
I want to keep her at kai2 form.
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>>14639684
Well, duh.
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>>14639684
Yeah.
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>>14639683
Just try not to get caught and banned again :^)
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>>14639688
Is le memeface a thing in /jp/ again or is it just you?
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>>14639693
It's always been a thing regardless of the board.
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>>14639693
Just him.
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>>14639673
When I was a little boy a red box molested me.
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>>14639673
I don't know, it just feels like a waste to open them. I think it's because they're always there.

I remember I collected blue boxes for months and opened it recently because I got no coins left. Whenever I open the item page and notice the missing boxes I start to go irritated and feel itchy for no reason
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>>14639699
We meet again, boy
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I have both Duckys and Maya. Should I even bother with Kasumi K2-B? Or should I just K2-B her just for Rei-go soon?
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>>14639714
There might be some incentive to use K2B for Rei-go but I don't see much use in regular maps
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>>14639714
Stick with normal K2.
FCF is more important when you use her as the flagship of combined fleet or yasen in escort fleet.
Fumo is unable to make up for the firepower deficit.
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>>14639466
If Kasumi's AACI prioritizes over Akizuki/Maya, who should she pair with for AACI then?

Also, who should I pair with Aki/Teruducky for backup AACI, since Maya's AACI is the one that gets overridden easily?
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>>14639714
I'd rather keep her as k2 in case her FCF is a must for some combine fleet map.
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>>14639720
The torpedo stat drop in K2-B kind of hurts, but FUMO just barely compensates for the firepower deficit. Since K2B doesn't allow FCF, I'm not convinced totally yet to try for her AACI.
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>>14639444
Don't you just love it when best girl is made obsolete by some shit-talking little twit?
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>>14639721
Everyone overrides Akizuki. She's last on the Priority list. Last I checked, It was Isuzu>Maya>Everyone else>Akizuki, unless Kasumi now prioritizes first.
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>>14639731
Kasumi K2B should be the her historical setup during operation tengo so I dout you will need it for winter.
Get her library entry and then convert her back to stock kai2. The only reason why you would need her AACI form is when you run Ashigara, Ooyodo, Kiyoshimo, Asashimo and Kasumi with no space for Maya and Akiduki.
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2BB, 2CV, 2 CA wasn't such a good idea, I'm getting rekt by all these subs.
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I will keep Kasumi as K2B just in case I need extra LoS in a DD sometime, in that aspect she's the best DD while in other aspects she can be easily replaced.
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>>14639739
She no longer looks bad so I don't mind that much. I'm not sure if I'll find space for her though. Ayanami and Yuudachi are stronger while Akatsuki and Shigure have more luck.

Long term it will be a bit painful as you say though, most of people will likely choose the rude brat over lovely lady. A shame they didn't fix her lines, with her seasonals I hoped she would become more dere at Kai Ni.
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>>14639740
>>14639721
Kasumi's API is 16 for HA + AA + AR and unknown for HA + AA but both override any other AACI. That means it's a bad idea to pair her up with Maya or Akizuki-class.
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>>14638296
>USS Prinz Eugen Mk.II
First USN ship in your fleet with radiation attack
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>>14639789
Isn't her kai already referencing USN?
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year of the monkey
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>>14639466
Didn't you learn from last Summer, anon? It's not about who is superior, it's about what you can do with the branching and shiplock constraints.
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>>14639764
>Akatsuki and Shigure have more luck
>15 luck
>high
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>>14639739
>shitty brat
>best girl
I guess /jp/ really has no taste anymore.
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>>14639802
Nope
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>>14639802
Only thing the USN did was add USS to her name, steal her equipment and nuke her twice.
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What if E1-3 is Operation Rei-Go and Kita, and the EO is Ten-Go?
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>>14639831
>>14639839
And here I thought the lame re-coloring was USN's fault.
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>>14639820
See >>14639444
Would be 60 long ago if not for pic related.
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>>14639294
>>14639300
>>14639304
The ones you got from Kasumi quests.
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>>14639845
Ten-go isn't related and would be a massive leap in the timeline of the war.

It's interesting to see how the events go from here on. Devs said the 3rd year of Kancolle would be an important phase with lots of new DDs, auxiliaries, and foreign ships, and it's historically important if they keep moving forward because Rei-Go was probably the last "successful" operation of the IJN, not to mention one of the first chapters in the Kamikaze era.

What happens from here? Will devs rewrite history?
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>>14639300
>>14639304
But adding it in is a trivial thing to do.
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>>14639862
So is giving rewards as quests instead.
>b-but my generic quad torps and late-model 12.7!
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>>14639855
I'm literally getting more bang for my buck out of Shioi crafts (18%, 3.5 4.5 4.5 2) than default crafts (6%, 1.5 1.5 2 1) when it comes to Maruyus
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>>14639862
Putting equipment on the ship wouldn't leave this fucking quest in my log forever nagging me to level her.
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>>14639855
Make sure you close all your dock except 1.
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>>14639866
Maybe I should do that? Second Seiran would be nice.

>>14639870
Doesn't help.
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>>14639861
Ten-Go in April 1945 was only 2 months after Kita in February 1945, which itself was 2 months after Rei-Go in December 1944.
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Is second Seiran really worth it? It's only +2 bomber stat compared to the best Zuiun that also gives AS and more LOS
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>>14639861
>Kancolle
>small c

>>14639864
The problem with quests is that they're often locked behind many requirements, screwing over new players who have to wait a long time to get those ships to clear those quests to get the equipment.

This isn't the problem with those quests though. Seems like the problem now is that these Kasumi quests are only temporary, which comes with its own problems.

inb4 new players

>>b-but my generic quad torps and late-model 12.7!
It's a valid argument. There is no reason for Kasumi to lack those as stock equipment.
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>>14639855
I wish I still had my track, I stopped at 730something when I lost my hard drive back in summer.
>>14639861
>would be a massive leap in the timeline of the war.
Not like they have anything else to pull out. Singapoor escape, Yamato suicide run and Penang were the only operations IJN did after Rei-Go.
>Rei-Go was ... one of the first chapters in the Kamikaze era.
What? San Jose bombardment happened at 26.12.44, kamikaze were already in full swing by that point.
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Just try Ashigara fag's formation at 5-5.
Occasional sparkling, no support.
Is this bad?
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>>14639883
>There is no reason for Kasumi to lack those as stock equipment.
Because she's reversible. That's it, that's the reason. Deal with it. Or what, you gonna stop playing? Stop giving the devs your money?
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>>14639889
>bomber in small slot

>>14639896
>Because she's reversible.
That is no excuse. Having her give stock equipment only the first time and none thereafter, is a trivial thing to do.
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Shit has this bitch always been this cute? I never really noticed her.
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>>14639908
No, her normal sprite was awful.
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>that new Kai Ni MVP line


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannghh
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>>14639881
Best existing Zuiun has 7 bombing stat while Seiran has 11. It's a big difference.

>>14639889
Not-married Kaga doesn't have crazy evasion, she appreciates sparkle. Why are you using two dive bombers? I'm also worried about your AS, I used two fighters on each carrier and if I remember correctly you said you have slightly weaker planes.
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>doubting monkeyman
Dude is on a fucking role.
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>>14639908
The pose in her old sprite made her look weird
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>>14639923
>role
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>>14639917
He probably has the zuiun 12 model 634 which has 9 bombing stat.
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>>14639932
It doesn't exist.
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>>14639917
Oh. I forgot to mention that I could beat the boss with this but still don't know whether it is a fluke or not. Or do you think it could be better?

The last dive bomber was Iwai Fighter/Bomber.
Only special fighter here was Type 53 at Kaga's biggest slot. Another is just Reppuu. This set up got me around 400 Airpower, it could be better if I change it to Reppuu601.
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>>14639956
It's just a ranking reward. Ise Kai 2 will probably carry it.
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I just noticed Mizuho has cute feet and socks after all this time.
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>>14639966
You should be fine, carriers are very potent. Especially armored Cranes, I had chuuha Zuikaku deal 144 damage to Wo Kai. Rule of thumb with this setup is one boss kill per three runs but it can obviously vary depending on Re's mood. Good luck.

Oh, I didn't consider Iwai. 400 is more than enough now but you will want 420 for final kill.

>>14639968
I certainly hope so. Hyuuga is ready and Ise will be as well in near future.
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>>14640034
Cranes are ridiculous. I had Shoukaku one shot the boss at chuuha before.
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>>14640034
Hyuuga carried suisei 634 so there you go.

I really wish the devs will stop with the convertible bullshit.
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>>14640044
Shit. We can be sure their planes will be hidden behind 100 hours of expeditions and multiple S ranks in World 6.
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>>14640049
I can handle bullshit quests but I can't handle 2nd remodels without stock equipment. That shit is ridiculous.
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>>14640044
>I really wish the devs will stop with the convertible bullshit.
I hate the power creep / Special snowflake bullshit too.
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>>14640064
>I hate the power creep / Special snowflake
Power creep is inevitable. Special snowflake is tolerable, albeit barely. Current convertible system is a whole other level of irritating.
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>>14640064
>Special snowflake
Have some awareness of the long-term, you look foolish. "Special snowflake" only looks that way when every class has one or two K2. Now consider it when everyone has their remodel.
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I for one welcome the power creep, because when it's finally time for my favorite ship girl's second remodel she's going to blow everyone out of the water.
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>>14640075
It is a pretty cool system though, even if the level requirement is shit. Being able to change the roles of different ships to fit different needs would also mean you can use your favorite girls (if they ever get theirs) without any setback.
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>>14640088
If only they kept their modernizations
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>>14640093
You don't need to modernize anymore when she's 99.
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>>14640088
It would be nice if you didn't have to max AA again or it costing 5k resources like the cranes do.
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>>14640079
Isn't Kasumi the only DD that is able to use large radars and Daihatsu? Just because of
>muh star of the event
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>>14640088
>fit different needs
That's not how it's being done in practice.

And every single new ship coming with zero stock equipment is not cool.

>>14640096
That's not true, her hard stats still get reset.
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>>14640096
I didn't think about that. Nice
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>>14640102
>her hard stats still get reset
What the hell? The last I remembered when I kai ni'd my 99 Haruna, she didn't need anymore modernization.
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I STILL haven't decided what I want my cranes to be. I have them both at regular K2 to this day and have never switched.
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>>14640100
That was pretty stupid though. Being able to switch to fit the fleet's needs could have been really good gameplay.
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>>14640108
Take it from someone who kai ni'd his level 98 cranes. The hard stats dropped like a stone.
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>>14640119
Why do they do this? What's the point of making it convertible if the stats drop anyway?
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>>14640123
Because fuck you, that's why.

Also from what I've seen the monkeys don't have much to modernise before their stats get maxed and you do get some bonus modernisation to start with, so maybe you got lucky with your Haruna.
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>>14640081
That's what Murakumofags said after Fubuki.
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>>14640081
Then the next few Kai Nis come out are your favorite ship suddenly becomes shit again.
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>>14640164
It's not impossible but she's already the fastest and really strong, so she'll be hard to beat
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>>14640193
I'm happy for you that your favorite ship girl is in a good spot.
Though I really dislike the power creep, but I can't really complain because it is not like I have a valid solution for it.
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>>14640148
Actual stats you get are random+some % from level. If you level some common destroyers, even the same one, a few levels in bulk you'll notice this. Another small but cute thing forgotten. Sometimes I wish there was no modernization feature so you had to level for stat growth ala FE. Would make the game much more fun for me.
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>>14640217
But the most fun part about this game is that levels don't matter.
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>>14640081
I don't see mine becoming any better than Murakumo or Hatsuharu.

And that'll probably be the case for most DDs.
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>>14640217
> stat growth ala FE
Fuck you, never this shit again.
Kancolle is already quite plagued by RNG already. Don't make stats being affected by growth stat, especially in a game where level manipulation is clearly inexistent.

Just imagine Kongou being either fucked up like Roy due to sucky growthrate or going full retarded with everything maxed.

Unless you want shit like second seal to be available, which would make the game more grindy AND powercreep oriented.
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>>14640081
Then it's about time my shipfu will get her 3rd remodel.
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>>14640222
Who's your shipfu?

>>14640226
>Kancolle
>small c
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>>14640229
>3rd
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>>14640237
Bismarck Vier when?
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>>14640226
The catch would be that you get 100% max stats at level 99 no matter what. Same stat caps for everyone too, some just get much better growth eliminating power creep in process.
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>>14640226
"I finally got Bismarck, I'm so happy! Time to level her to drei now!"
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>>14640242
And those with faster growth have higher stats at level 155 than those with slower growth.

Congratulations, you just made the game P2W.
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>>14640236
kaNcolLE! KANCOLLE!
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>>14640259
Don't put words in my mouth. Same stat caps no matter what. They have sames even at 155. Just they'd get their stats maxed by ~120-130 compared to 155 for everyone else.
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>>14640242
>>14640272
Please no, it's ridiculous. I've never enjoyed that mechanic.
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>>14640311
Random stat growth always pleased my autism so I've enjoyed it. Also it's one of the easier ways to solve power creep.
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>>14640242
>>14640272
Yeah and what about before 99, genius?
Look, I like FE as well, but stats gain upon lvlup that is dictated by grow rate is shit and is the only thing I dislike in FE franchise.

Imagine the damn scenario: you have Kongou who keep gaining armor stats all the time, but 0 Fire power until lvl75.
By the time she is about to kai ni, she would have been stuck to 65 firepower without any weapon, which would make her worthless just because you were unlucky.

How about DD with failed HP/Armor gain? This is stupid

>>14640327
It doesn't solve power creep at all, you moron.
You are just making the issue worse: instead of having girls having their very own stats dictated by the devs, you have now their stats dictated by RNG and there is nothing you can do about it except reaching max level, which is beyond stupid.
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>>14640335
Random stat growths is one of the things I enjoy the most in FE/dungeon grinders and similar stuff. Betting on tough odds is universally fun.
>which would make her worthless just because you were unlucky.
I don't see anything wrong with it. That's what makes the games fun in the first place.
>instead of having girls having their very own stats dictated by the dev
Which leads to power creep you forgot to add.
> you have now their stats dictated by RNG
Their stats are dictated by effort you pour in other words. Very decent mechanic, nothing stupid about it.
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>>14640372
>I don't see anything wrong with it. That's what makes the games fun in the first place.
We must have a completely different perception of what's fun. In my case, I can accept RNG when it comes to hit rate when it is flat out shown and can be circumvented with equipments and placement on the terrain. Unlike KanColle, FE RNG isn't everything and you have to think properly instead of charging in the enemy formation..

>Which leads to power creep you forgot to add.
And I honestly don't even see the "power creep" as people claim it to be.
For one, we didn't got any DD being able to outmatch Yuudachi by any stretch. If people want to complain about power creep, the new plane system is more akin to that problem, and thus far, it doesn't stop people to clear maps with their favorite girls.

>Their stats are dictated by effort you pour in other words. Very decent mechanic, nothing stupid about it.
Your efforts don't mean jack shit if the RNG decide to screw you over.
Playing Swords of Seals was a painful experience, when I managed to have Roy as Great lord being -double attacked- by the final boss, and thus having a game over despite it should have been a cake walk, and that's despite I brought the boy everywhere hoping he can get decent speed increase, but to no avail.

Your conception of "dictacted by efforts" is absurdely misplaced since the said stats would be screwed by RNG.
I can't believe you honestly think that having a perfect BB at lvl12 or a flawed FP BB at lvl80 is anything relevant to your efforts at all.

And that's taking BB as an obvious example, but that mechanic would screw CV way more because of their reliance on FP stats for their planes. So Akagi could potentially be stuck at mere crane kai level if you had shit firepower rolls.
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What if their stats were based on what percentage of your secretary clicks they've received?
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>>14640372
and one more thing: with FE, you can circumvent shit growth rate rolls with either reloading the ongoing chapter, or simply using consumable like speed wing to compensate bad rolls over time.

Chapter/map rerolling would be impossible to implement in KanColle, and introducing stats increase would be either similar to our current modernization system, or pure P2W content.

Nope.jpg
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>>14640413
Akashi strong!
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>rationalizing your waifu being weaker
She will still be usable, you wont even be called a hipster if she's still strong. Kaga is still used even after armored cranes, Haruna is still used despite being outgunned by everybody, Ooyodo/Jintsuu are still used, people still use Murakumo despite being inferior to Fubuki in every single way.
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>>14640402
>If people want to complain about power creep, the new plane system is more akin to that problem
Is it really power creep if the benefit is a blanket one?
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>>14640446
Not really, exactly why I said "akin" since it still helped cranes when they didn't have their kai ni.

Honestly, the game is actually going towards to specialized roles instead of having a direct competition in term of stats.

That's why some idtios are still claiming Cranes kai ni are better than crane kai ni A or vice versa. Same goes for kasumi: she has 2 specific uses, and admirals can choose which version that suits their need the best.
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>>14640402

They actually nerf the vanilla planes. Now planes feel like shit without the chevron.
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>>14640448
Hotel
>>
Kasumi looks kind of not worth using as an AADD, unless you're lacking ducks.
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Hi /jp/.
Newbie admiral here, started back in December. This coming event has Graf Zeppelin, which I'm interested in, but I fear not being at all capable of farming or even clearing the maps on Easy. Everyone says Easy is way too easy, but I assume that's because they have everything on Kai 2 already. All I have at Kai2 so far is Kongou, Sendai and Kiso, with everything else averaging around 40-50 (DDs at 30 average, 1-5 is suffering).
So I ask, what exactly can I expect in terms of difficulty? Can I do anything at all or must keep training?
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>>14640448
Kaga
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>>14640448
flagship and Haruna blocked it for her
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>>14640465
>Everyone says Easy is way too easy
That's because everyone started in 2014 or earlier.
>So I ask, what exactly can I expect in terms of difficulty?
You can clear them in easy, but it won't be that easy. I don't expect you to be able to farm for new ships like Zepp though.
>or must keep training?
You don't stop training.
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>>14640465
You need heavier ships for the installation boss that will appear, but in reality, Graf is not really worth the effort for a new player. Get as many remodels as you can pump out this month and then stockpile.
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>>14640465
What's your HQ level now? 1-5 is still viable until you reach 80.
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>>14640465
Even on easy they can throw you some pretty nasty shit at you.
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>>14639862
I know, a literal retard with basic programming knowledge could implement it. They're just THAT lazy.
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>>14640465
You should be able to go pretty far in easy mode as far as I can tell with the information you provided.

Post your fleet and equipment setups and I'm pretty sure the more experienced anons would be glad to help.
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>>14640490
>I-19 will never be buildable
wew
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Who the fuck keeps a DD as the combined fleet flagship anyway?
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>>14640465
I cleared Winter E1-4 Hard with pic related. Steamrolled E5 Easy with straight eight S ranks.

You should be able to clear E1 on Hard or Medium depending on your HQ, E2 depending on difficulty of the map and EO(s) on Easy or Medium. Easy might be preferable considering you want to farm. Keep training until you have all the essentials you can afford and start stockpiling a week before the event.
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>>14640498
>not realizing you might need a DD as a flagship for the new event, like the transport combined fleet mechanic requiring shit ton of DD in the main fleet.
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>>14640465

I was in the same situation as you last event, and was able to clear the maps on H/M/E/E/E and get S-Ranks farming Prinz's node 2/3s of the time.

Didn't actually get Prinz, of course.
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>>14640498
Special snowflake routing, nobody seriously takes a DD as flagship.
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>>14640498
Didn't Yukikaze serve as IJN's flagship at one point?
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Is it worth to keep doing LSC for Akitsu Maru alone?
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>>14640501

>Map only accepts fleets of 12 DDs
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>>14640522
Wouldn't you rather go the long route in every map with an Akitsumaru shortcut?
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>>14640517
No, but Tan Yang was the flagship of Taiwans navy.
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>>14640465
Look up some basic essentials and keep grinding
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>>14640501
AS flag is better. Kasumi wants her AACI, the FCF is incidental and just happens to be equippable.
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>>14640529
Huh, I could've sworn she held the position for like one day, so it would technically count.
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>>14640536
>AS
Wait, you're going to need Taigei for branching rules?
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>>14640537
Nagato endured everything till the end after Yamato met her demise.
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>>14640541
I stuttered.
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>>14640523
That actually sounds like something they would do. Not that it matters in a short-form event, and especially not on a TP map.
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>>14640536
>Kasumi wants her AACI
Are you seriously going to use Kai Ni B when Maya or Akizuki exist?
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If you switch a fully modernized Kai2A back to Kai2, do you have to remodernize it?
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>>14640553
Yes.
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So why Kai Ni 乙 and not Kai Ni 甲? Is it crane superiority?
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>>14640551
Not him, but I like her K2B more and it even has more armor.
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>>14640545
Yeah, but other ships like Ooyodo also served as IJN's flagship after Yamato sank.
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>>14640569
I can't wait for 丙 or even 丁 remodels being some kind of bullying from devs.
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>>14640569
I think it was more because 甲 can mean armour. Using it for anything else would probably diminish the effect.
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>>14640551
K2B is able to equip large radars, so there's that.
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>>14640579
Being flag ship really didn't mean much, especially when the war went to shit for Japan. It was a revolving position that was determined by availability more than anything else.
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>>14640569
甲 refers to 装甲空母 or Amored carrier
乙 might refer to 乙型駆逐艦 (Akizuki class or Type B destroyer)
>>14640582
Type-C or 丙型駆逐艦 exists in the game already, guess who?
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>>14640614
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>>14640551
Why does this need to be restated repeatedly?
Next event, expect special branching where you'll be fielding Kasumi and co., with tons of air power to contend with. That's what the operation historically was: Ashigara bombarded the air field while the other ships focused on AA.
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>>14640614
All of them are used to rank things too though; 甲 1st, 乙 2nd, 丙 3rd, 丁 4th and it goes on.
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>>14640622
Uwah it's that artist
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>>14640622
Right.
>>14640626
Yeah. It's just my theory. But it might be interesting to see some shipgirls get K2C and somehow have more revealed uniform.
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>>14640636
Can Shimakaze have a more revealing uniform?
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>>14640623
And will you ever understand that Rei-go fleet has 5 ships while we can use 6 or 12?
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Thanks for all the answers. Guess I can clear, but Graf is gonna have to wait until next year.

>>14640485
62, but I say suffering because it feels so slow.

>>14640493
Here's what I have, not a lot.
Oh and my mistake, I thought I needed 60 for Kiso Kai2 but it's actually 65.
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>>14640648
Yes, but I want to see her put on some cloth
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>>14640653
Inb4 Devs dead-end fleets of six
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>>14640653
It's thinking logically, anon. Devs gave her built-in AACI because we'll need it.
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>>14640667
I would just camp at 1-5A until the event if I were you. Aim for at least 2 kai2 DDs.
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>>14639444
Most people can't be assed to feed Maruyus to their Akatsuki. With Kasumi all you have to do is throw a Skilled Lookout on her and bam, high Torp CI.
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>>14640707
How come people will get anal if you try to call anything with budding breasts a loli, but post-pubescent posture, hip width, and thigh gaps get a free pass?
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>>14640667
I see you have Akitsu Maru. You should level her up, just in case of any future event using her for branching to the easiest path again.
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>>14640667
Craft better planes. They're a must. Doesn't matter if it's Reppuu or Shiden Kai Ni but you want several of those. Obviously use recipe that allows Ryuusei Kai and Saiun as well. You want at least 3 AP Shells and 3 Sanshiki. Other eq can wait.

Get Hiyou and Akitsu Maru (great that you have her) to Kai, Poi, Shigure and KitaOoi to Kai Ni.
You desperately need some CAs. Atago and Takao are actually the strongest ones without Kai Ni thanks to their torpedo stats so you might consider training those. Myoukous and Maya are strong too though. CAV are often used for branching so make sure you train Mogami and hope that her sister drops from 2-5 when you'll be going for the medal this and next month.

Those are the minimum things you should do that will give huge benefits. Other stuff has lower impact.
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>>14640465
Don't you have 3-2 unlocked already? Just level all your ships there at the same time.
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>>14640514
I took Akizuki as flagship in Winter E-5.
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Please don't make Shigure irrelevant. I like her.
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>>14640969
It's better to do 1-5 for DDs/CLs until HQ80 and move to 3-2-A and heavier ships later.
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>>14640537
She was flagship (in name only) of the 8th Fleet for about 3 days.
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>>14640974
We've got no control over it famboni. If you like her but don't use her because others are better now then you're a shitty TTK.
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>>14640974
Her and Poi will still be babbys first DD Kai Ni.
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>>14640974
It was inevitable anon. She has a low remodel level and high luck, both being things which will get outscaled the more a TTK plays and the more K2 we get.
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>>14640974
Kasumi has worse stats than Ayanami, there's no reason to worry.
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>>14640974
High luck is never irrelevant.
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>>14640976
You can bring 2-3 dead weight ships and still S-rank it consistently so I don't know why you would want to level up at 1-5 instead. Having half the base experience means that time required and cost is doubled.
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>>14640999
>2 less NB firepower for 20 AA
The horror!
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>>14640974
>low remodel level
>good luck
>radars

Not to mention future routing/shiplocking shittery. More girls = better.
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>>14640999
Ayanami only has 2 damage more than Kasumi, and all you need on Kasumi is a skilled lookout.

Night battle damage:
Yuudachi (166)
Shimakaze (158)
Ayanami* (157)
Kasumi (K2) (155)
Akatsuki (150)
Yukikaze** (148)
Fubuki (147)
Kasumi* (K2B) (142)
Shigure** (141)
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>>14641007
Because DDs are much harder to train and you can do that for no cost and with zero risk at 1-5?
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>>14640986

There are so many good DDs now that it is not justify to use her if you have the choice. She should see play in early maps like E1 and E2 though.
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>>14641018
>i can't read
ok
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>>14641014
>Kasumi* (K2B) (142)
>Shigure** (141)

Holy shit, even the AA version is better.
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>>14641008
2 nb is worth more. You're forgetting Ayanami has 7fp more than Kasumi which matters far more than torpedo. Ayanami didn't invalidate Shigure so there's no way for Kasumi to do that.
37 luck isn't enough to be reliable, Shigure and Beaver are better for cut-ins. Kasumi's DA is only #4 behind Poi, Ayanami and Shimakaze.
No matter how you look at it, there's no place for her in your main fleet unless you want DD to carry daihatsu or FCF
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Can't wait for Shigure yandere doujin after next event.
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>>14641033
>Ayanami didn't invalidate Shigure so there's no way for Kasumi to do that.
Ayanami didn't replace Shigure because we didn't have that many high damage DDs at the time so Shigure was still near the top. We've gotten a lot of DD Kai 2 since then to the point that if you want to take the best possible DDs and only have space for 5 or 6 and have all of >>14641014 then there's really no reason to use Shigure.
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>>14641033
>No matter how you look at it, there's no place for her in your main fleet unless you want DD to carry daihatsu or FCF
Jeez, I can't imagine what it must be like to play this game without buying ship slots.
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>>14641014
>Ayanami only has 2 damage more than Kasumi
Yes and?

>Ayanami is stronger so Kasumi is better
wew lad

>and all you need on Kasumi is a skilled lookout
Ayanami can carry Skilled Lookout as well and on top of being stronger, has more luck.
Shigure without lookout has clearly higher chance for cut-in than Kasumi with lookout and Shigure can carry third torp or starshell.

Again, what are you getting at?

>>14641044
If there's no reason to use Shigure, there's even less reason to use Kasumi unless you want day battle power.

>>14641046
Slots have nothing to do with it. You only take 2-3 DDs to combined fleet.
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>>14641058
>Ayanami is stronger so Kasumi is better
Are you retarded? When did I say that?
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>>14641033
People sure do love splitting hairs over DDs.
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>>14641063
Read a bit above.
Or explain why did you even reply with
>Ayanami only has 2 damage more than Kasumi

What was your point? I don't see any.
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>>14641070
The fact that Kasumi being just a little weaker in night battle than Ayanami didn't matter at all when it came to replacing Shigure. That was the point of posting the list.
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>>14641058
>wew lad
Are we done with the shitty crossboard garbage now?
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Kasumi will be needed for Rei-go/Ten-go?
Shiggy will be needed for Leyte

Obviously people will keep both.
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>>14641073
Umm, what? I was saying that Ayanami didn't matter when it came to replacing Shigure. Kasumi is outright weaker than Ayanami, so she has even less impact on Shigure (and if you read up a bit you will see that's what being discussed). Your list doesn't change a single thing.

>>14641074
Couldn't help it. It's the first time in my life I used that phrase.
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You're favorite DD is a shit.
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>>14641099
My favorite DD will one day turn into Tan Yang and rape every other DD. You're favorite DD is shit.
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>>14641099
No she's not, you take that back
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>>14641099
Don't be rude.
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>>14641099
Nuh-uh.
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>>14641109
Who is this handsome man?
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>>14641109
>>14641111
Nowacchi, Nowacchi~
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>>14640702
I'll devote all the time left for Poi and Shigure, as the other anon suggested.

>>14640929
>>14640940
I will start using the dailies to craft the planes and shells then.
Was gonna level up the Myoukos, Maya and Kumano (she's at lvl 1 so she didn't show up on the list) for CAs and Tone/Chikuma for CAVs, is that alright?

>>14640969
That's what I've been doing so far. 3-2 is actually the farthest I've gone to.
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>>14641099
I know.
But one day, she'll have a Kai Ni. You just wait.
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>>14641099
No, you're just a pleb.
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>>14641128
Tone and Chikuma requires blueprints so you probably won't see them as CAVs any time soon
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>>14641130
Artwork by Ichiso.
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>>14641128
Kumano turns into a CAV after remodel so she's your best bet for a CAV if you don't have enough blueprints. Maya is also pretty high on the leveling priority list.
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>>14641128
Tone and Chikuma are still CAs at Kai. That's why usual first pair of CAVs is Mogami + Kumano/Suzuya. Mogami is common and has extremely low remodel level.
Good to see that Ashigara is highest leveled.
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>>14641133
Rude.
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>>14641130
RIP tea.
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