How are your studies going? Any useful advice for people?

Invest time is the only thing that matters

6 years in, living in Japan for a year now.

Advice: don't give up.

Good. Read.

>>14613102
Switch to Vietnamese instead. They're more Asian.

>>14613102

Don't bother.

Kanji is actually easy (monotonous though)

Grammar is something you don't really learn persay, It just kinda clicks once you have exposed yourself to enough moon.

Vocab though makes you feel like you will never succeed. I can read ciel no surge but not a newspaper like asahi. No matter how many words you learn there is always countless more.

Save yourself the headache and just read subs.

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>>14613192
>Save yourself the headache and just read subs.
1) Anime dialogue tends to be pretty easy vocabulary speaking
2) Subs suck ass and are plain wrong a lot of the time
3) VNs and games are why most people learn anyway (excl. anime nerds who don't make it past kana)

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¯\(°_o)/¯

>>14613207
These lines are fucking confusing.

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>>14613102
I'm writing a web novel. Pretty sure a lot of Japanese laughing on my back when they read it.

>>14613310
How many people read it? I always wondered what is needed to stand out among a sea of other web novelists who think they can write the next SAO.

>>14613317
Actually I'm not sure how to check views on syosetu.com. There is a "vote" counter report though, and it's still zero.

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>>14613410

Meh, still focused on vocabulary, sometimes I read visual novels to practice and pick up on the grammar, I procrastinate too much so I'm not entirely happy with my progress but at least there is progress.

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>>14613415
Hey, it's still one month.
Unless I become a meme, I am not getting famous overnight.

>>14613433
>procrastinate
The biggest problem I always have/had was thinking too much about the possible meaning.
You come up with complicated shit and say to yourself that it can't possibly be that simple, make up some weird and unnecessary bridges even though it really is as simple as it looks.
I guess that danger of this is, that you fall for it on a different day and actually see something complicated. Japanese is like cat and mouse for me.

>>14613192
>persay
Might want to work on your English before moving on to Japanese.

>>14613538
No need. It will just "click" with enough reading 4chan posts.

とっとりだいがくこうがくぶ いしいあきらきょうじゅの け
Can someone to translate this for me?
I'm a beginner.

>>14615501

>とっとりだいがくこうがくぶ いしいあきらきょう
>じゅの け
>Can someone to translate this for me?
>I'm a beginner.

Translation: "Professor Iishi Akira of Tottori College, Engineering Department"

I can read manga, watch anime, play video games with no problem. I'm not sure where to go from here, I can read novels but with difficulty. With manga/anime/games, I kept at it and understood it eventually and I'm doing that with novels now but it's frustrating because it's been 2 years and I don't feel like I've progressed much.

Vocab is a grind.

A long, never-ending, grind. Everything else isn't too bad though, not even Kanji. Basically this
>>14613192
Except I encourage you to keep going.

>>14615617
Two years isn't all that long if you weren't reading novels all day long. Keep at it!

>Do Anki religiously for a year and grind up to 2k words
>Get busy with studying for finals and come back to a shit-ton of review cards and give up for a while
>Come back and I've forgotten everything
;-;

>>14615930
>iktf... but only 1k words and 200-300 or so kanji with wanikani

I never really got further than the JLPT 1 or was it 5?
The lowest tier thingy. This is now two years ago I believe.
I wonder if I should pick it up again.

>>14616002
Hell, I am going to check out that Anki now.
I believe I still got most of the basic grammer down, except for some crazy grammatical tense forms regarding some verbs. Kanji and Vocab is the wall of grind that made me stop in the first place.

Anything I need to know about anki that isnt super obvious or written down somewhere?

>>14615606
TIL "こうがく" means "engineering"
My first thought was "small school" or sometging along those lines

>>14616031
Can you not use Anki fully with your keyboard?
This feels a bit clunky with a mouse in the long run.

>>14616045

Thats's why you need to start learning kanji as soon as possible. Example, If you knew the kanji for small, 小, you'd know it doesnt have こう reading, just a こ one.

>>14615930
>>14615971
We're in this together, pals. Let's not give up hope!

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>>14615971
I'm around the same place, but I'm a beast and haven't faltered from the path yet, because giving up is for 弱虫.

*flex flex*

>>14615895
thank you anon I'll keep at it!

>>14616087
You can. Space bar to show card and 1-4 to choose the respective easy-hard button

It's going alright. Speaking to natives helps a lot, but if I chat with them on Line, it gets annoying. Annoying because I read so slow right now, and they type out long paragraphs.
I planned to visit Japan this Fall but I'm worried I might be too stupid to get around.

>>14613102
Bad.
As usual school gets in the way.
But that's okay, how much I study Japanese always ebbs and flow.
And I don't have any tips for anyone, I've been studying for less than a year.

I will say one thing, though, I follow only Japanese people on twitter, and no matter how stupid I sound they always talk to me. I even talked to this one guy who asked me if I liked Koe no Katachi (i tweeted a page from it), and he told me he lives where it takes place, and then I asked him if that bridge/park actually exits and he sent me a bunch of pictures of the bridge and stuff, super cool. It felt really good being able to write my own sentences without a translator.

So, I don't know. Maybe that's a tip. Talk to people on twitter, it feels nice putting the practice to use.

>>14616477
>I planned to visit Japan this Fall but I'm worried I might be too stupid to get around.
Don't worry about it. A lot of foreigners there don't know anything outside of "konnichiwa" and still get by fine. Even the very basics will help a lot if you need to communicate with someone. I just threw out the various nouns and verbs I knew and they were able to get what I was talking about. Nips are very helpful to confused foreigners (from my experiences at least).

If you really want to become fluent in Japanese, go to an accredited J-language school somewhere in Japan for 1.5 - 2 yrs, study your butt off while you're there, and look for as many opportunities to speak Japanese while you're there. Getting a part time job that forces you to use Japanese is helpful but optional. Getting a degree in Japanese from a college in your home country is a complete waste of time.

Bad I keep procrastinating so I only know a little kanji so far. I need to put more time in instead of playing video games or doing other things.

>>14613102

Alright.
I'm currently learning 4 kanji a day plus up to four words they are used in. I do writing drills so It takes around an hour or two reviewing the past 7 days kanji and adding the new daily ones.
I have keep up this schedule for months by now. I know 824 kanji and hopefully will know all of the joyo by the end of the year.

Grammar wise It's mostly settled down. It's only vocab that's the task.

>>14616478
twitter is great, i also try to practise my convesation with japanese people over skype or whatever

gave up

neethood and solitude have dulled my mind and i cant learn anything well anymore, or i immediately forget it

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>>14617235
Don't give up I'll cheer you on!

Anyone wanna buy Remembering the kanji pt 1 from me? It's no longer of any use for me, great book.
[email protected]

Second year living and still love it. Studied abroad and got a feel and haven't looked back :)

I keep putting it off, I'm currently learning how to draw so once I get good enough to actually draw good stuff, I'll start to learn Japanese.

>>14613310
Post it nerd

>>14613207
Without any context, sure.

https://youtu.be/2Qih9eWadaw

did a semester in college, went to japan for summer, came back and didn't study more so i probably know jack shit right now.

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things are going well. I've started getting hardcore about my time, I stay up till midnight and wake up at 6, get ready for day and then spend remaining 1-2 hours studying. Then at night I work on other projects and/or relax.

Tomorrow I'm getting this record in the mail, I'm super excited! I love Yamashita-san's work.

>>14613192
>>14613192

Vocab is an endless challenge even in English, and languages make up new words all the time. You need to accept that you only ever START a language, you'll never truly be done. Incidentally, iif you're a new beginner and are intimidated by this notion, remmber that it only takes a reasonable amount of time for you to be reasonably good.

Any suggestions or resources on how to get native-like pitch accent? I feel like this is my biggest barrier to being understood (other than vocabulary).

>>14617108
Tried playing your games in Japanese?

>>14616478
I tweeted to a doujin artist and she replied to me.
Felt good.

>>14621052
So far I only have pokemon in japanese. I'm going to download some VN's to practice

>>14613102
I gave up again a month or two ago.

Read Tae Kim twice over, read a few sections out of the DoBJG about things I didn't really understand the way Tae Kim explained them, and learned ~2000 words through Anki, but when it came to trying to read anything I found myself unable to understand pretty much anything. After a few days of that, I was too disheartened to keep going.

>>14621698
Interesting. I'm almost in the same situation, with a few words more. Thinking of ``dropping out'' every day.

>>14613192
Is this your first foreign language by chance?

>>14615694
>not even Kanji
What? Kanji basically is vocab.

Bad.

I cannot get above 75% mature accuracy, even with a lowered interval modifier; it's set to 1% now and I somehow doubt even that will help.

Probably have some kind of mental defect because I've never been able to learn anything else properly, either.

>>14622157
I always end up with 80% or so accuracy on average, so I feel 75% isn't so bad. The dominating factor probably is immersion, at least for me. For example, I can read things like 車 in my sleep, since it pops up pretty much everyfuckingwhere, but how are you supposed to remember words that you haven't seen in months and that aren't common or useful either? For example 歯磨き is a word I recently failed, but who ever talks about brushy brushy anyway (unless you're watching fetish shit).

>>14622187
>not fantasizing about brushing your imouto's teeth in japanese

>>14622187

It's bad when you've been at it for over a decade on the language, have spent thousands of hours on it, have less than 3000 words and have to review over 1/10 the the deck every single day, and can't read anything other than simple pornography, even then having to look up words on every page.

Maybe I'll reach the level of a 10 year old before I die.

>>14622196
Sorry to have triggered hard feelings for you, but certainly it can't be that bad. I also have to question your statement of ``having spent over a decade'' on Japanese. If that was true, there would be no way you'd be only at 3000 words, unless you actually meant ``I started learning Japanese more than ten years ago, but inserted a few pauses of about 5 years each in between''.

>>14622214

I've been using anki daily for six years, though I lost my desk twice in the past due to not backing it up. My current deck is almost three years old.

Before that I had little structure, but managed to learn over 1000 words anyway. It probably doesn't count as 4 years, but I haven't ever taken a significant break from it.

Kanji is the easiest part about Japanese.

Those who say otherwise have no clue what they are doing and should probably choose a different hobby.

:)

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I hate japanese

>>14620994
I've introduced my non weeb friends to Tatsuro Yamashita and they all love it.

>>14623239
つゆ isn't written with katakana and isn't on reading

I'm near the giving up stage.

Fact is I can't remember shit from regular studying. I remember things through association.

dec.2chan.net/55/futaba.htm

In 2ch

As a Japanese, it's way more difficult to master English, so you guys would be able to speak Japanese easily.

>>14624402
>it's way more difficult to master English
Yeah, sorry about that.

>>14624402
That's only for speaking. Japanese reading, writing, and grammar leagues more difficult than English.

>>14623578
I'm not giving up, but I feel like my progress would be much steadier if I actually had people to talk about my japanese learning and stuff, and threads like this don't work much for me in that aspect...

Nicely. I learn the vocab and grammar for JLPT5, last month I started to study for the JLPT4, wich I'm going to take on the next December.

Right now, I stopped my study for exams reasons, tough.

>>14624402
Yeah no. Kanji is pretty exclusive to your languages.
Also, japanese is, I think, just a little more confined to the country of its origin than English which you "practice" every day since it appears randomly everywhere.

Anime, I have been told does not even use regular Japanese, but an exaggerated version.

Computer, konpyutaa.
Ok.
Keitaidenwa, cell phone.
Nope,

>why bother?
Because I like the challenge. Also its really pleasant to "figure" words out as you go.
E.g. Kon , this, nichi, day, wa, is the subject.

>>14624402
Japanese is actually classified by the US government (FSI) as being the hardest language for an English speaker to learn.

>>14613102
I usually get an hour a day studying out of my textbook. I've got the entire Chronicles of Narnia in Japanese, I could probably dive into that, get some practical expansion of vocabulary, pick up some more kanji, etc.

I gave up long ago, didn't even get to kanji though I did do grammar.

Last week I was watching a shitty anime and was alttabbing in and out, I won't tab back in when I understand something simple but I managed to suprise myself by translating the moon is pretty tonight, I didn't even realize they were looking at the moon till in swapped back to it.

One day I'll go back to it but theres always that barrier I've made.

>>14613102
I've been using Lang-8 for ages but never really took the corrections on board properly. So I've started making meticulous notes from the corrections I get where relevant.

Hopefully as I go on I can refer to my notes as I post if I'm not 100% on how to put something and as time goes on it'll eventually just click through sheer repetition.

>>14613102
Gonna do JLPT N1 this year.
What I'm worrying about most are my speaking and writing skills. I'm fluent on the conversational level, but I really need to expand my active vocabulary regarding formal language and more complex topics. I don't want to sound like a high schooler for the rest of my life...

>>14613102
Really really terrible. I don't have much of a discipline on my self, so I tried to take up JLPT in order to force myself to study at least.

Very bad, when I did N5, I didn't even finish the Genki book. Same with Minna no Nihongo on N4. I passed them anyway but basically I was just a Memrise fag.

I sat N3 last December without opening Sou Matome and not finishing the Vocab and Kanji, I was confused most of the time.

I'll have to retake N3 by July probably.

I just don't have the motivation most of the time. Looking to fix myself this year.

Isn't JLPT pretty much a joke certificate aimed at taking your money without providing any return value?

Recently, I had to reduce the number of new cards each day from 20 to 10 because I keep failing every single new card day after day, and my reps are piling up that way. Maybe my brain is already overloaded?

>>14626382

I've never managed more than 1 card per day for a prolonged period. with more, my accuracy drops so low that I just have swaths of cards that I can't learn appear day after day and it becomes so demoralising that I get even less accurate.

No idea how people claim to add tens every single day.

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So I bought and have been using Remembering the Kanji 1, and pretty great. (Don't worry I'm also doing Anki). I also just torrented the second Remembering the Kanji book. I don't understand how it's helpful at all, it's just a list of kanji with the readings, I don't even see any memory tricks, it looks like just a list.

Is it just bad? What am I missing?

>>14626560
No one ever recommends reading the second book, much for the same reason why many people oppose grinding away at kanji using the RTK method: At the end of the day, you can write kanji, but you don't know a single word, and can't read a single sentence. The general recommendation seems to be that kanji should be learned along with actual words using them (along with their reading, which is why RTK2 is shit unless you want even more useless baggage in your brain) for a more rounded education.

>>14626594
Oh, and make that "grinding away at kanji using the RTK method EXCLUSIVELY", since I personally believe that being able to recognize (and to a lesser degree, write) a large amount of kanji is a definitive plus in learning Japanese.

Sup guys, i'm trying to make sens of a particular sentence, any help would be appreciated.

　主人の稲下婆はかつて床技を極めた
古来ゆかしいくノ一らしい対魔忍として
恐れられた手練であったとかなかったとか。

It appears in one of the 対魔忍 nukige by black lilith. Context is that the narrator is about to go eat at a cafe called 稲毛屋 and he gives a bit of info about it. We never see him there and afaik neither the place nor the person mentioned in the line is ever touched upon again in the game (or any others for that matter). From what I can understant, the cafe's owner is an old woman named 稲下 (Inage) who used to be a taimanin specialized in bedroom arts, but i cant make sens of the end. Thanks to anyone that bothers to help.

>>14628453
>床技を極めた[...]対魔忍として恐れられた手練であったとかなかったとか。
"She was or wasn't a master feared as a taimanin who specialized in the bedroom arts"
The あったとかなかったとか means that those are probably rumors, the narrator isn't sure.

>>14629460
I see, thanks mate.

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My PC died and I just have my smartphone so I'm kinda fucked right now

>>14626602
Agreed. I use RTK just to supplement. Don't use it to build vocab.
I find it's helpful for learning other kanji, because then the elements/radicals are more familiar making it easier to learn new words when I come across them.

I don't know if this is the best place to ask but some Jap I followed on pixiv sent me a message. Could someone here please translate it for me or tell me where I can get accurate translations(machine translation sucks)?
月までは人間らしい生活ができないため、
絵が描けません。
でもわたしは必ず描き続けていきます。

>>14634530
I posted the wrong thing.
フォローありがとうございます！
わたしの絵で少しでも心が動かされたのなら、
ヘンタイ！
間違えた
タイヘン！うれしいです！

もう少しで絵が描ける状況になりそうですので、
また思い出したときにでも来ていただければ幸いです。

>>14634539
Thank you for following me.
I'm very happy that your heart was even if little moved by my pictures. (Here he makes a simple wordplay - "very" = タイヘン (taihen), but first he wrote ヘンタイ (hentai)).
Very soon I might be able to draw more pictures, so I'll be happy if visit my page again when you remember me.

Sorry, I suck at putting it in natural English, but that's the message.

>>14634594
Thanks

>tfw new vocab starts to make sense even without looking it up

Is there a word for this? Like that point where most of your acquisition is coming from understanding a word's context and not from mechanically studying it?

Poorly... I haven't been as dedicated since I graduated. I need to get a plan laid out so that I can be more focused. I learned ~180 Kanji after graduation; but I need to re-learn a lot of the grammar. I'm probably going to start going through my old text book's lessons to get back up to speed, then try and go passed where I was previously...

>>14636003
AFAIK in latin and germanic languages (and thus english), no.

>>14626318

No?
It's legitimately accepted by pretty much every major business in Japan as being an official approval of Japanese proficiency.
The only problem is that only N1 and N2 are typically considered fluent. Passing levels N3-N5 should be done to gauge and test yourself more than anything.

I've started learning Kanji and consuming japanese media again. I'm doing Kanji Damage with Anki, which is great for anyone who already has some familiarity with the language.

I recently watched a raw GCCX episode and was surprised to find that I understood 90% of what was said.

>>14620185
http://ncode.syosetu.com/n6701cx/

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>>14613102
>"Studying" japanese

I've been enjoying anime, and later live action, for 15 years, for me it's much efficient as a learning method. Being a mongol also helps since the pronunciation is identical.

>>14626318
>>14636985
In a lot of ways it's the liberal arts bachelor's degree of language proficiency in Japan.

>>14639031
What is it like being Mongol? Do you guys worship Ghengis? Is it 1st world or second, I really don't know. Not being mean either I really am just interested.

>>14639039
He's Genghis's descendant.

I thought I was ok but then I tried reading and listening to Japanese news

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>>14639039
>Do you guys worship Ghengis?

No, only Winter War with Russia, 1995 Men's World Ice Hockey Championships and the dearly departed Great Leader Kekkonen.

>>14613192
>Save yourself the headache and just read subs.
Pretty often subbers are inept. Scrubs could read total rewrites and never know the difference.

>>14613200
> Subs suck ass and are plain wrong a lot of the time
Are you implying your picture is wrong? Please explain.

>>14639036

>In a lot of ways it's the liberal arts bachelor's degree of language proficiency in Japan.

What does that even mean?
Stop trying to justify you fear of taking the JLPT by acting like it's not worth anything. Don't be that dense.

これは大きな社会問題になっている

Lads, I've got this sentence in my flashcard deck with the translation of "This is a major social issue". Looking at 「なっている」 though, is it not "becoming a major social issue"?
Or rather, is the fact that it is becoming an issue being referred to as an issue itself?

>>14640244
If that is from some Core deck, I have a simple answer for you: The translations presented there are often extremely liberal, and will not always correspond 1:1 to what is actually being said.

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>>14640263
I've become aware of that and try to make some small corrections for the sake of my understanding sometimes, but that card has been bothering me for a while but I haven't bothered asking about it until now. Just getting a short and simple answer would help, since I could then just change the text and forget about it desu senpai

>>14640244
The ている indicates that it has become and still is a major social issue. I doesn't always mean verb-ing.

>>14640361
Why not say "it is" instead of "it becomes/has become" instead?

>>14640367
Why even use "has become" at all in english? You could just simply use "it is" instead.

School managed to block out most ports so I've gotten into japanese mabinogi and maplestory
Actually very efficient when it comes to learning how a human actually speaks compared to basic book and pounding knowledge.

>>14640367
Because "it is" doesn't tell you anything about whether or not it was always a social issue, whereas "has become" has the nuance that it wasn't one previously.

You should look up ~ている in a grammar dictionary or something. In general it implies continuous states for intransitive verbs and present tense for transitive, though that isn't always the case.

>>14626318
The JLPT is very useful when it comes to finding a job in Japan not English related, and getting college credit for Japanese courses without actually taking them. It's a good gauge of your actually ability. Provided that is only for N2 - N1. N5 - N3 is of little use past acting as a gauge of your current ability.

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These are just general tips on how to study well.

>>14613102
I started using RealKana after the last thread, and I've got them all down. I'm not really sure what to do next so I've just been practicing writing them.

>>14640233
...?

I meant that its most important purpose is it serves as a bar for a lot of companies to actually look at your resume instead of instantly trashing it. It's commonly agreed upon that you can get N2 and possibly N1 and still have shit Japanese. In the same vein that anyone can skate through and get their BA in something just to get a "needs a college degree" job offer, but in both cases you aren't really *cheating the system* by doing so, you're just squandering your own time and money. I was also going along with the point that just because you aren't N2-N1 doesn't mean you wouldn't be able to perform adequately in a corporate setting, just like how many people that haven't graduated yet can already outperform people that have their degree.

I'm getting a degree in a liberal arts program and going for the N3 this summer. I was just pointing out that it's funny how people feel roughly the same about the two and generally those who have the most negative opinions about either are missing the point entirely. Neither are valuable as one-size-fits-all job prep/language fluency programs, but both are extremely valuable at giving you a strong foundation to learn a shitload on your own as well as opening the glass door for you to prove you didn't just fuck around for 4 years or whatever.

but i didn't feel like typing all of that

>>14650055

Oh, that makes a lot of sense!
I thought you were doing a typical /pol/-tier "liberal arts are useless!" spiel and were comparing it to that.

Does 削 mean plane, as in both a flat surface, and the flying machine? I googled a picture of it and it was just red soup.

I took two (three) semesters but had to drop the third due to it just being too difficult and couldn't devote time to study due to it being my "fun" class. Haven't picked up my books to self study, but I do regularly surround myself with the Japanese language through shows, music, games, etc. so I don't completely forget everything I studied. I'm able to read some simple stuff, but I didn't learn too many useful kanji in my classes outside of date and time. My books are kept in a neat little stack so that I can pick them up whenever I finally bring myself to continue learning the language, but the problem is that I'm bad at self-study. I usually rely on a slave driver (teacher) to motivate me to learn things, but I think I'm starting to find stuff that's giving me motivation, specifically games.

I have 300+ reviews in wanikani because I fell off the wagon over the holiday and it feels bad to start again.

>>14613236
They're tree diagrams used in linguistics, though I'm not sure what the point of that picture is.

>>14640566
To emphasize that it changed into what it is?

>>14616045
It would look like the root of school, but like another anon said it's actually 工学 which is 「こう」「がく」which is easy since it's a jukugo so it retains the original readings, being こう for 工 (construction) and がく for 学 (study, learning, science).

So put them together into a compound word (jukugo) and you get something like "construction science", easy to remember for engineering, and pronounced (luckily) like its component parts.

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hi guys, I need help with a kanji I can't seem to find
it's the first one on pic related
any ideas?

>>14650784
This is the time you should use a j->j dictionary.

>>14650784
Were are you looking this up?

I read Magi up to 60th chapter, but I'm really sick of black and white. Please recommend me a VN that isn't going to break my flow by forcing me to use an actual vocabulary (goo.ne.jp) all that much.

>>14652610
Looks like 瞬道 but you really don't have a better res picture?

>>14613102
>How are your studies going?
まあな。
>Any useful advice for people?
毎日勉強して。「毎日」は大事。

Don't take French

>>14613102
Some real advice:

- Learn Kanji everyday with a spaced repetition tool like Anki. Don't quit because it's 'too hard'. You will never be able to enjoy books or games without being able to read kanji. You don't need to learn to write them, but it can make them easier to memorize by building a feeling of how Kanji are constructed.

- Build a basic vocabulary. Again, Anki has several pre-made decks of 5000 essential words. Do this everyday, too.

- Talk with people in Japanese. There are online services that connect language learners with each other so you can do skype sessions and talk about anything.

>>14653592
Worthless advice (more like common sense, oh you don't say, I won't be able to read Japanese without kanji?!?!?!). Del.

>>14653606
Meh, good for you if you think this is common sense. There are still textbooks and websites that will not teach using kana or romaji only. The other extreme are courses that tell you that it's super important to bea able to write all Kanji.

Another weird thing is how there are tons of tools for learning kana. You can (and should) learn them in one or two weekends just by writing them down a lot and doing some flashcards.

>>14653622
>Another weird thing is how there are tons of tools for learning kana.
Nothing weird. Those tools are intended to be used, that means by many people, not one or two persons. Since most people are target audience and they are not really want to learn the language, but play pretend learning, tools are made accordingly - simple and fun to play. That's why almost no guide uses kana or (the horror) kanji, but romaji. Nobody want they audience scared and run away.

>>14613102

I was able to read most of the prologue of a Nukige through the help of VNreader adding furigana and letting me look up the kanji I didn't know (I barely know any) right there on the spot.

It was the simplest shit ever, but I felt a disproportionate sense of pride at actually deciphering what those girls were saying. I didn't really learn any new kanji, though...I got a slightly better grip on grammar though (grammar is easier for me to learn than kanji).

I have never seriously dedicated myself, though. I bet if I did I would progress a lot faster. I'm have a really strong knack for Linguistics, so I find learning languages to be easier than most people do.

>>14613192
Fuck man, this is the same shit for me. I am completely terrible at getting a vocab down. I took four years of German in high school and my grammar was really good, but my actual vocab meant that I needed a dictionary to write anything beyond a simple sentence. Same thing happened when I took Latin and Greek later on.

>>14653694
What, you actually tried learning Greek AND Latin by your own free will? That's pretty sick. I'll never recover the time I wasted by learning Latin in school. Might have done something useful instead. Fuck the education system.

>>14653708
No, I took Latin in High school for 2 years alongside German. My teacher was unique, he was a fun-loving guy who listened to heavy metal, not the stuffy old British guy I expected. I took Greek for a year in college. I am in no way fluent in either, though I can probably get through most Latin texts with a dictionary.

I have a Sanskrit grammar for teaching yourself, but I've never taken the full plunge. Devanagari is almost as bad as Kanji, if that's possible to believe.

I find Japanese's grammar to be interesting, as it's basically nothing like the Indo-European languages that we're all used to. My favorite aspect has to be the stupidly-complex verbs and all the interesting ways it uses particles and little suffixes.

sage for blogshit

>>14653708
Managed to drop latin back when I was studying it.
Wasted 4 years studying it to drop it 4 months before the exam...

Is KanjiDamage + TaeKim a decent combination for learning?Been using them for a while and I was wondering about your opinions on them.

>>14613192
where do you even get raws?

>>14625240
lol?! Us gov i swear

This is a reminder that it is useless to sit down and learn kanji, learn vocabulary using those kanji instead.

Can anyone translate this?

（２）両当事者は，商品に関し，第三者との間に知的財産権に係る権利侵害等の紛争又はそのおそれが生じたときは，速やかにその旨を相互に通知するものとする。
（３）甲は，個別契約において指定された国において、商品に関し，第三者から知的財産権侵害の主張がなされ紛争が生じた場合，甲の責任と負担において当該紛争の一切を処理，解決するものとする。但し、甲による当該紛争の処理・解決によっても解消できない乙の損害が生じた場合、甲は当該損害を賠償する。

>>14657333
Should an act of cumming occur or be suspected by one party, that party will inform the other party immediately. The first party takes liability for any pleasure incurred by the act of cumming inside.

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Can anyone translate this?

>>14657333
>両当事者は，商品に関し，第三者との間に知的>財産権に係る権利侵害等の紛争又はそのおそれが生じたときは，速やかにその旨を相互に通知するものとする

When a dispute occurs over the infringement of intellectual property rights by third party for a product, that party must notify the other party immediately.

>>14613102
Going to actual school to learn Japanese is a pretty good idea

>>14656036
Yeah, it is. Add some basic vocabulary set to that and you're good to go.

>>14625240
>>14656087
Yep, Chinese, Korean, Japanese, and Arabic are all top-tier difficulty.

I want to be a voice actor.
Watasi wa seiyou ni naritai desu
私は声優になりたいです。

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLU0jP4MhA0#t=83.993375

>>14657287
I think it's really beneficial to know the meaning of the character to make vocabulary more meaningful and stuck into your brain. And if you don't you'll be mixing homonyms like different かたい's all the time.

>>14657287
This is mostly right, but with an approach like KanjiDamage or Heisig, it will be easier to remember the readings and meanings of Kanji, thus helping you remember the vocabulary.

You know what would be nice?
A flowchart that would tell me where, when, and how to progress to different stages of learning japanese.

Having the instructions in said flowchart also appear in a textual guide would be great. It would appeal to people who learn in multiple ways, and the more detailed nature of a text guide would complement the more general step by step instructions of the flowchart.

Someone please begin working on this, thanks.

>>14662668
Learning languages, or anything, is never this simple. Don't count on people to spoonfeed you like you want them to now with Japanese. Just start somewhere, anywhere, doesn't matter if it's not the perfect start. If you really want to learn Japanese you will, and you will be able to figure all that stuff out.

>Someone please begin working on this, thanks.
Seriously, how much of a little bitch can you be? Have you ever done anything by yourself? Download Genki or Anki and just go through that shit if you don't know where to start.

>>14616522
Tell us more about getting by in Japan with noob-tier Japanese abilities. I am also going within the year (for leisure) and I'm scared.

>>14662668
/djt/ made a guide like that. Download the Learners kit, and it has everything you need. But it can't make you study or put the knowledge in your head, you have to put in the effort. It's a long journey and not a destination.

>>14657458
It says your gay

What are the good grammar books ? I went through most of the Tae Kim, but I feel like it's too short to be enough.
I also look for some ressource for oral expressions that can be found in mangas, VNs or any live discussion, it would be very helpful for when I'll start reading manga seriously.

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>>14613102
Can someone translate this image? I'm really curious

>>14667306
I can't believe I could read mundane shit. My Japanese has improved.

>>14667318
what does it say? :3

>>14667329
Basically some retard is calling themselves a princess.

>>14667336
heh, that's so like her...

>>14667343
She doesn't actually know Japanese, right?

>>14667393
I think she does.
She's actually Japanese, although she was only born in Japan and has lived in the US all her life.

>>14667404
That's some really shit japanese then.

>>14667306
>私はよろしくね。
kek

>>14667476
I'd go into more detail as to why that may be but nah...

>>14666103
If you can somehow make your intent clear, japanese people will go out of their way to help you.

Also, if you are in a big city, expect random people to start talking to you to practice their english.

>>14667271
Good day. I'm welcome! I'm Suuchii. I'm a princess! Pikachu - Love, princess ~ Dog.

>>14667624
ah, so that's all it says.

>>14667624
thanks.

>>14667495
I thought that too, but it looks like it's probably 私はスーチーだ。

>>14667639
yes, her name is suu.

>>14667639
Oh god, I'm dumb. You're right.

>>14667639
That makes more sense.

>>14667639
Then why was that on the second line?

I just got my N2 results with 120/180. Almost perfect for listening with 30/60 for language knowledge and reading. How far away am I from N1? Is it possible to get there by December?

Are the kore2k/6k kanji and the 2200 rtk pretty similar?

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My goal is to get N5 by June

I want to joke, but that rate of progress would be mach 1 for me, given that i've tried five times now to learn the basic hiragana.

Fuck I'm useless.

>>14670058
here's a list of all the n5 kanji:
http://www.jlptstudy.net/N5/N5_kanji-detail.html
copy the whole page once per day for a week, including the readings and example words. it's hard work, but only for 7 days. that will kickstart your japanese so much you'll become a completely different person.

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>>14667574
>expect random people to start talking to you to practice their english

R-really? There's probably some downside I can't foresee.

>>14671109
No real downside, except that it can be annoying if you are not in the mood. Happened to me a few times on my commute, while i was reading and listening to music.

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>>14670058
I am in the same position, I keep telling my self about the urgency of actually starting and keeping up with it, but each day just blends into the next and if there isn't some kind of instant gratification I can't bring myself to stick with it. I hate myself because of this and feel useless and trapped.

>>14671897
1. Willpower is trainable
2. Everything you do is a habit
3. It takes approx. a month to establish a habit
4. All you have to do is power through a month
5. Literally jumping out of bed and doing pushups first thing in the morning helped me immensely

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>>14671930
I-I'm going to try that, a-anon!!
The pushups thing, of course. I-It might help me with my motivation to learn Japanese, though...

>>14613138
>living in Japan for a year now.
Makes me sad to read that. After six years are you fluent now?

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>>14657458

>>14671897
It's hard to keep up, but don't give up! I suggest giving yourself
a reward every time you study for an hour or more. Doesn't matter what
it is, just make a habit of it. Everybody finds it difficult at first, but once you
see improvement in your skills it won't seem like such a mentally taxing
activity. You'll find it easier to study more, and for
longer periods of time.

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I'm doing really bad in class. My grade is fine but everyone's so much better than me at speaking and reading (especially remembering compound kanji stuff).

My listening comprehension is probably close to the best in the class since I'm the only one answering my teacher half the time, and writing's fine, but I really wish I knew how to read and speak without sounding like a complete idiot

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JLPT results are up /jp/
How did you guys do?
I've only been studying formally for a little over a year.
Feels pretty good.

I'm going to Japan in a couple of months. Right know I know the kanas and the absolute basic grammar and vocabulary (went to class about a month in the summer).
Let's say I spend about 4 hours everyday studying (only one on the weekends), could I reach N4 level by then?
What's the best method to learn about 300 basic kanjis in like 50 days, KanjiDamage or Heisig?

>>14673666

Is that for Japan?
The USA one wasn't supposed to be out until March according to the thing they gave us at the test.

I gave up!

I'm on /jp/ instead of studying. Of course it's going badly.

I was doing kanjidamage and Anki, but I couldn't remember what I'd done in kanjidamage and Anki was really slow for me. I picked up Remembering the Kanji 1, and it's been very helpful for me so far. I'm at kanji 185 so far.

I have a hard time studying every day though. When I try to do that I eventually burn out and can't concentrate, but when I take a break I have a hard time picking it back up again.

>>14650784
It means to make smooth.

>>14674071
You can view the scores online as long as you have your registration number and password.
I'm from the US.
The website is https://www.jlpt-overseas.jp/onlineresults/
March is just when you get your physical certificates.

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Skimming this thread, it is surprising that so many people on the big Jay apparently got their shit together. Unless we're all lying about living in Japan, finishing our Master's degrees and doing daily morning push-ups or 6AM kanji reps.

I thought the whole "/jp/ is filled with smart people pretending to be stupid for the giggles" spiel was a joke we told to delude ourselves.

>>14674369
It's easy to be successful when you have the time to dedicate yourself to something.
Most normals throw away their lives by pursuing a LTR/marriage the second they become financially independent adults.
You sure have LOT more time and money to put into our hobbies when you're single, so it's really not that hard for me to study Japanese seriously and travel the world.
/jp/ knows how to live, despite what most people think about us.

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>>14674369
There's nothing smart about trying to learn Japanese. It's quite the contrary.

>>14657458
Sugoi! I didn't know kanjis were so hard!

>>14613207
I don't think 1 and 5 are valid grammar.

>>14674369
All the people with problems were run off and are now dead.

More realistically, the overarching culture that vilified success (or at least made it so that you shouldn't talk about it out of respect for your more miserable friends) was killed off along with the rest of NEET culture, and people who for whatever reason have failed to learn Japanese mostly aren't posting in this shitty blog thread.

>>14673739
The problem with KanjiDamage is that the Kanji are not in order of importance, but in order of ease of learning. Still, wouldn't hurt to use it.

Don't know about Heisig.

>>14667624
It's probably not "Suuchii," It's most likely Suzy.

>>14659846
>omg all these drawings, why they don't use human letters? xD

>>14673666
Got it on the first try. I'm just so happy.

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>>14675358
Messed up the image.

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First try... Gah, on my N2 i also got low reading what should i do to improve reading

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>>14673666
JLPT is a fucking joke. I don't feel satisfied I passed with a shitty score like this but deep inside, I feel happy

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>>14673666
This will finally serve as an eye opener on how I need to take tests seriously.

Fuck, I never opened any books and only got halfway through Vocab and Kanji on Memrise.

I lost motivation halfway and forgot that I signed up for N3. Oh well, there goes my money and time.

Retrying on July. ;_;

>>14673038
>Makes me sad to read that.

Why sad?

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>>14675358
>>14675369

Congratulations! That's pretty rockin'.
How long have you been studying for?

>>14675557

Also good job, you can actually be employed in Japan now.

>>14676001

It's okay, if you didn't really try that's actually not a terrible score. More effort and you can do it.

>>14675588

Same for me. As you can see, I also only passed by like 3 questions yet got A in every category apparently. I've only been at this a few months so I'm happy, but knowing how close I was to fucking it up is a little worrisome.

>>14625240
What?
It took me 2 years to get my Finnish to the level my Japanese was at after 3 months...

>>14675167
サンキュウ

>>14674419
I wanna see Shimakaze's cute dick bounce up and down as he rides a thick gaijin cock!

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They need to raise the minimum passing for this exam. This is a joke. I don't feel happy I passed with this awful of a score. I was totally expecting to have failed this. I was falling asleep during the exam for Christ's sake.

>>14676028
Because I haven't been living in Japan for a year.

Fuck, I wish I didn't have to travel to another country to take JLPT.

>>14676321
I've been studying now and then for years, but my level mostly increased in the last 200 days or so.
During these last days, I learnt 40 words a day using anki10k and began to read some actual japanese. At first some webnovels with rikaisama, and then games on emulators and scans of light novels.

My oral and my grammar were already alright before that, but since I didn't want to put in the efforts, my reading comprehension and my vocabulary were really shit in comparison.

Anyway, good luck on your japanese.

>>14677519
What you don't want to visit Japan?

>>14676927
>complains, but is actually bragging about passing the N1.

>>14676927
omedetou lmao

>>14676927
24 of 60 in reading is pretty fucking awful.

>>14674502
>More realistically, the overarching culture that vilified success (or at least made it so that you shouldn't talk about it out of respect for your more miserable friends) was killed off along with the rest of NEET culture
I still see a lot of that though, it's just that the board administration never lets it last more than a few hours or a day or two before squelching all discussion.

And I think it's good to look down on naked self-promotion and the flaunting of success, to be honest - it ensures that we don't take ourselves too seriously.

>>14678016
who you quotin boyo?

日本語は欠陥言語

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Pretty good, N3 was pretty easy with a year of study. Probably going for the N2 next time.

Being consistent with some form of study everyday is the most important thing.

>>14679649
>being consistent everyday

How do people do this?

It's going alright, more or less got Core6k solidified. I read through Fureraba (well one of the routes, I really was really feeling done with it after just the one) and I'm in the process of finishing up Flyable Heart (three more routes to go).

I have a bunch of vocab I've saved from the VNs but I haven't put them in Anki or anything. I'm considering not even using Anki anymore but not sure.

Not sure what VN to do after this.

>>14667306
>konnichiwa.
>watashi wa yoroshiku(?) ne.
>Suuchii da.
>watashi wa (don't know) (kanji for "woman", don't know hot to pronounce) yo.
>(kanji for "love"; pronounced "ai"), purinsesu

Hello.
(don't know)
(don't know)
(don't know)
Love, princess.

>>14679649
What's your regimen

>>14679892
I pretend that I have a job that just happens to be studying Japanese.

>>14679892

- Learn at a set time / occasion (e.g. before dinner every day), not just 'every day'
- Plan exactly what you will do (e.g. learn with flash cards, try to read something)
- Even if you don't have the time / concentration to do everything you planned to do, still start to do it. Often, being in the flow will still give you the energy you need.

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>tfw I still haven't started learning japanese yet
Is Genki good for learning vocabulary and grammar?

>>14685941
It's an alright starting point.

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If I just wanted to study basic in this anki deck. Could you tell me if I did it right?:

I made a "Parent Deck" in the option group, and put that in the first three slots, then the other decks after basic I had different option groups that were 0 cards a day.

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Dear /jp/, this is me >>14613310 .
I'm in a severe case of writeblock.

http://www.nhk.or.jp/lesson/english/

Why is NHK so terrible at teaching Japanese?

>>14685941
It's not good enough.

>>14689543
What would you recommend instead?

>>14689547
It is good enough. He's just being the natural antagonist, portraying your worry about it.
Like everything else, the best thing is to just do. How exactly are you going to fuck up?

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>>14685941
Genki is a solid core for learning Japanese. It provides a little of everything, with dialogues and at lots of new words a chapter. The way it is written ensures that you're always reviewing previous words and grammar. My biggest complaints are the way Kanji are introduced (not intuitive, and without any mention of radicals) and that the content is often not practical enough. Still, I used it in college for 4 semesters, and it has become so ubiquitous for a reason.

>>14692241
Thank you so much for this album

What would be a good point to start trying to read? I've pretty much got hiragana down, and trying to work on katakana currently. I know more than a few basic words, but almost no kanji. I also have a basic grasp of sentence structure and particles. I'm not sure how much I'd need to know before I'm able to start reading something though, even if assisted with a dictionary or something.

I know I'm pretty far off right now, but I'm really excited to get to where I can actually start reading stuff outside of just straight up studying. I know there are manga and things where they have furigana above all the kanji, I don't suppose someone could point me towards something simple and enjoyable that has those?

>>14697838
Doraemon

>>14674369
I literally live in Japan, have two masters degrees and haven't actively studied Japanese for years except for getting a professional pronunciation coach.

>>14698170
Did you do grad school in Japan? How are things over there?

>>14698295
Yes

Work is tiring

I wish I could have a better job/work balance and career on par with the west but I can't stand the thought of actually having to live there again

It feels like playing life on hard mode here in exchange for the otaku perks

Where can I learn grammar from?

>>14638559
WHere do you get your Japanese media from?

>>14699000
internet

>>14698946
tae kim

It's probably been said a million times but for finding starting resources check out the link in /a/'s djt generals.

Any listening resources for natural speaking speed?

Are J-Dramas a good start? Thanks.

>>14656076
nyaa.se

Stopped before family Christmas + New Year's marathon. Got sick for >two weeks after New Year. I'm only going back to studying today. Just kill me.
Don't skip reviews and don't stop reading.

>>14613207

猫が　食べた　魚の　頭は　赤い

猫が　食べた　魚は　赤い　頭です

I'm doing genki books again from the start right now i finshed chapter 7 before i take a year break i had done all to 14 chapter.

Want to start learning just as a hobby. I got all these books I bought but I don't think it's enough they're pretty cheap at my local bookstore.

I tend to prefer books to internet, get easily distracted, probably why I'm not getting far.

>>14706530

A start is a start. Don't give up again, anon!

>>14706610

Books are just as good, though always have the internet at hand to check things out/look things up to supplement your reading.

>>14706610
>get easily distracted, probably why I'm not getting far.

This. I downloaded books on the internet and tried to study the pdf on the computer. I got easily distracted that I almost made no progress. I just bought the books instead.


A book, pen, and a notebook still works the best for me.

talk and sing to yourself 24/7 helps

>be a NEET
>do nothing but jack off and play vidya and watch anime all day
>decide to do something somewhat productive
>start learning jap scribbles
>learn hiragana and katana in two days
>HELL YA I feel so good!

>start kanji (radicals)
What in the fuck were they thinking when they made this writing system?

>>14711185
What's the thickest thing you've cleaved with you katana so far?

>>14708146
Which books do you like?

>>14670058
> i've tried five times now to learn the basic hiragana.

usually i say never give up but hearing that just fucking give up if u cant even do hiragana you will not be able to do shit

Is there a sticky for this thread?

I've been looking for a pdf with SFJ1 everywhere and I cant seem to find it online, does anyone have it?

I'm too dumb to learn japanese

Does anyone else have the awkward problem of being fairly decent at reading / listening comprehension, but absolute shit at spoken / written expression?

>>14715487
I can read almost whatever I want at this point but my writing is awkwardly phrased even if I can talk about complex concepts, so yeah.

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Why dont we make a studies group?
I need to train my vocabulary/speech

i also have a japanese friend who can help us

>>14715487
I'm good at listening and writing but I suck ass at reading comprehension and speaking.

I'm not even really sure how this happened.

>>14715515
>>14715713
Anon who asked the question here. That's interesting. Have you guys done any level of the JLPT / do you know roughly where you stand on any language scale (e.g. CEFR)?

It's just a theory I have, but I suspect that because of the way the tests are geared towards comprehension rather than expression, you end up decent if not very good at the former but severely lacking in the latter. Not having people to practise the expression part with doesn't help either.

... Though the classes I take test for everything and I still end up failing hard at the expression parts of the test, but that comes back to practice too, I guess.

>>14715589
I wish i could but i cannot even speak english properly and i'm too embarassed to let other people hear my shitty pronunciation

I just finished learning hirigana. I've got a hell of a long way to go.

>>14715487
Yes that's how I was before I started having to use Japanese at my job. I had passed N1 but could barely form a sentence myself because all I had done up to that point was consume media.

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Hey there, lads. /djt/ is currently getting bullied by a mod, so we might be joining you guys in the near future. I look forward to working with you. よろしく お願いします！

>>14640244
If it were "becoming. . . " it would be なってきている or なりつつある、 etc

What grammar books should I use to learn by myself?

>>14716386
Maybe try being less shit.

>>14639031
>I've been enjoying anime, and later live action, for 15 years, for me it's much efficient as a learning method.

One more weeaboo. You seriously think you learn japanese from watching that stuff. Maybe you should stop being a faggot and please throw your katanas out of the window.

Anyone willing to translate 2 pictures for me? I got some autographs but they are in Japanese and no photo translator will pick it up.

>>14716921
Though I don't purport that by only watching anime you will "learn" Japanese, it certainly helps with listening comprehension.

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>>14716685
This (ISBN: 9784590005706) is what I used when I was studying (nearly 20 years ago; probably better books out there now.) Not exactly user-friendly for beginners, but extremely powerful once you start to figure out what's going on; and lots of example sentences with rômaji. Highly recommend! If you're an a beginner, probably start with a Dover "Essential Grammar," etc before hitting this.

>>14717053
I'll give them a shot if they're not too time-intensive.

>>14715487
Obviously. Not "awkward" at all if you consider the reasons people here learn Jap.

>>14717053
No, kill yourself, you worthless piece of shit. Wait, even a shitheap is more useful than you, stupid dickface

>>14716921
Like that other guy said not alone but it certainly helps a lot. Don't forget about reinforcing grammar.
If you're one of the "you only can learn animese through anime and will sound like shit"-crowd, it's not a different language, dude. Compare the (variations of) English used in entertainment media and the English people speak. Of course different but they also have a lot in common. I'm pretty sure nobody is stupid enough to say lines from stereotypical little girls or old geezers or shonen battle lines.

This is pretty similar to the "I learn japanese through anime" but I find listening to drama cds when I walk to school pretty helpful. Understanding the context is WAY different since you can't see what's going on, and really forces me to listen. I generally don't understand what everyone is saying, and repeat back what I heard to myself in my head and then it seems like 5 seconds later I'll realize what was said.

Also, been buying a bunch of raw manga. That's been really hard, reading the first vol. of Bokura no Hentai was tough and slow, then I tried reading Oyasumi Punpun which was a joke. I'm definitely not ready for that. I need to read more stuff for kids, I suppose.

Anyone have ideas how to get into translations? I have translated parts of japanese websites, books and comics, mostly game related before. I want to translate something now not just for my own studies but to help others out. Anyone knows people that may need japanese-english translation, maybe for some videogame, eroge, manga whatever? Bonus points if it pays.

>>14717553
I'll never get how people can think that translating as a practice does help anyone but themselves and how they can publish their "translations" with a clean conscience. Translating shit needs more than just being able to understand both languages.
The majority of fantranslations are utter shit because of that please don't add your own feces.
Also if you aren't English native or at least at a very high level, forget it, try your own, if you really need to.

>>14717650
>Translators don't real

Yeah sure budderino

>>14717553
Reputation and experience are extremely important for any well-paying translation job. No one's going to pay much for your translation without knowing ahead of time they're going to get quality work.
　That being said, there's tons of stuff out there; just google it. The more you provide quality service for people, the more work you'll get; grow your experience and reputation.
　Also, knowing people who need translation work is rather helpful. Build contacts and market yourself.
　以上、master of the obviousでした。

>>14717553
Just buy manga, scan it, clean it, translate it, and post it on your website.

>>14717650
>Translating shit needs more than just being able to understand both languages.
If you hold translations to that standard, essentially nothing would get translated from Japanese to English, even by people who get paid to do it.

I can understand not wanting shit translation from beginners just running everything through a dictionary and guessing the rough meaning, but if getting translation from someone who knows Japanese and English isn't good enough for you, you should just learn Japanese yourself so you don't have to put up with it.

for everyone who wants to train Speech, add me on skype; xxsaymanxx

I just found out I passed N3 with 150/180.

This is a huge motivation boost. However, I recently got LASIK surgery so I can't really do any intensive study, It's been a bit more than a week and I still can't focus on reading without getting a headache. If I knew this would happen I'd honestly postpone the operation till I finished all the joyo.

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>>14717446
Thanks so much, if you need it zoomed in just let me know.

>>14717495

Thanks anyway~.

>>14719443
Jesus, just learn kana already

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>>14719443
i couldnt understand the other things, but here its "thank you" (arigatou)

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What's the point of N3, N4 and N5 again? I thought what matter are only N1 and N2.

>>14720081
I just asked for it translated, I have no interest in learning it.
>>14720081
Thanks for trying, they scribbled so fast to get people out.

>>14639031
>Being a mongol also helps since the pronunciation is identical.
The same with spanish
t. läätinoamerigan

>>14717823
>someone who knows Japanese and English isn't good enough for you
Knows what? How to read stuff written by others? Utterly useless. Translator is writer. You have to be experienced writer in English in the corresponding field? because your job is to convey meaning from completely different culture and adapt stuff which can't be carried over. This way harder than writing your own stories because in that case you just write what you think naturally, but in translation you have to convert alien concepts.

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How are you guys able to read this? Someone said that the number of stroke helps, but I don't understand. Thanks

I didn't do my reps for a few days, and now I'm still down ~400 reps even though I already did 300 today...

>>14720438
And that's the kind of skill you just won't find in people willing to do this for free, or even in professional translation teams for anime, manga and games. You're plain delusional if you think that any kind of otaku culture translation scene would exist at all with your standards.

>>14719443
Top of both pages have "Angela" written in hiragana (あんぢぇら).
　Bottom-right of left-hand page has "Atsuko" written vertically in hiragana (あつこ). No idea what's going on to the left of that.
　Right-hand page, aside from the "arigatô" already pointed out >>14720089
, I have no idea. Maybe sloppy rômaji?

>>14720758
This is a poem from the Man'yōshū (3317, Book 13; see <http://hiro-ks.jp/manyou/manyou/MK13-3317.htm>.) Left-hand is original kanji, and right-hand page is old kana.
Rough translation: Were I to buy a horse, I could ride, but you would have to walk. Let it be as it is then. Even if the road is rocky, I will walk together with you.

>>14721513
Well, at least I have a little thought it what it was saying Thank you! It was from the band Angela as well.

>>14721662
>Left-hand is original kanji, and right-hand page is old kana.
Sorry, got that backwards.

>>14700882
I tend to listen to seiyuu radio shows, especially the ones with more than one host. I think they're actually slightly faster than regular conversation most of the time, but that's probably good.

>>14613102
Very slowly for me. Started about 2-3 months ago. Every time I think I mastered the basic alphabet characters, I end up forgetting what some of them are now and then.

I already know a few words and phrases too. But I don't study every day. I'm guessing that's why I'm struggling with it.

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>>14716685