What is all this kancolle shitstorm on /jp in recent months? Are you guys getting paid for such an agressive marketing campaign like that? Why would any sane person unironically play your Hearthstone for weaboos?
>>14599713 What is Reitaisai? Here's the number of circles participating in Reitaisai 2014. The one last summer had over 5,000 circles participatinhg. Touhou is so big that they have their own convention for Touhou stuff.
The whole kankers vs 2hu thing was actually fun two years ago when Kancolle was still getting started, and the seas were bright and full of promise. Now it's just kind of sad, like watching a bunch of people shuffling through the motions of a ritual that lost its meaning long ago.
>>14600078 It's got an assload of beautiful fighting girls, which everybody likes, decorated with nationalism and history. The game itself is easy to play and doesn't require too much investment unless you have autism.
>>14600103 >The key is that you can be really bad at playing games and still do really well in kancolle.
This is something that gamers often can't understand. Just as there are many losers in this world who use video games as their creative escape, there are also losers who are either too impatient to pick up gaming or simply have bad hand-eye coordination and just want to experience the associated fanbase.
Farming games are, for better or worse, a great compromise for these types. Gamers may be irate about the casualization of games, but what in the hell are you supposed to do if you make a living selling video games, most people would just rather be casual?
>>14600200 I'm not saying casual games being created is a bad thing. It's just why lots of people play it, cause it's a game that almost plays itself. KanColle isn't my cup of tea in the gameplay department, but you won't see me demanding it be taken down.
>>14599922 >2hu artists They are not. Don't call them as such. 2hu doesn't own artists and they are free to draw whatever they want. Or you should call them Kancolle artists the moment they start drawing ships.
>>14599713 OP probably never even played Kancolle and probably just Jacks off to boats.
Also I'm sure this is just a troll post, but this is dismissing how immensely popular these flash/mobile games are. Just look at the cash games like Clash of Clans and Game of War is. If this is the direction you want gaming to go towards, then fuck you.
>>14600078 Not pay-to-win; no gacha, which is unlike most similar games. I think this is by far the most important point; it more than made up for its shit gameplay. And shit as the gameplay was, it wasn't bottom tier by browser game standards. (I'd even argue that the massive RNG incorporated into it contributed it to not being pay-to-win.) This gave it plenty of staying power.
Also someone ranted about something regarding the game on Twitter. I can't remember who ranted and what the rant was about, but it drew attention. People liked the game and spread the word.
That's about it. It did really good especially considering it had no marketing when it started out, meaning that its initial surge of popularity was due to its own merits. What few players it did have at the start were generally military otaku who didn't dislike cute girls.
>>14600091 For all you know, some 2hufags here might actually be harbouring genuine hatred for KanColle. At least it seems this way at times, but as far as I know not one of them has actually brought it up to the moderation staff.
>>14600103 >The key is that you can be really bad at playing games and still do really well in kancolle. I wish. /tg/ and /v/ really, really suck at KanColle. Some /v/tards even thinks you need to pay to make any progress.
>>14604741 >cash games This game in question isn't one though.
>>14605261 >Not pay-to-win You can clear any event by throwing enough money at it. That's how a lot of people streaming on niconico clear it in day one. You either farm resources for more than half a year everyday or open your wallet the day of the event. The latter is much more appealing. Even Japan recognizes this. I see comments and such every event in 2ch/2chan saying they payed for resources. The game doesn't forces you, but with the huge amount of girls and long repair times you most likely will if you spend a lot of time in the game for extra ship slots, another ship repair slot, rings for marriage, etc.
>>14605261 >I wish. /tg/ and /v/ really, really suck at KanColle. Some /v/tards even thinks you need to pay to make any progress. I really doubt they care about some mobage tier game. Also, it's impossible to suck at KanColle unless you're dumb enough to not visit the wiki or the himeunko forums.
>>14608445 It never ceases to surprise me how retarded some people can get, but yes they are that stupid.
/tg/ still treats 2-4 as some insurmountable brick wall and struggles to clear the first map during events. /v/'s a little better than /tg/, but they still suck, and they also treat anything with a cash shop as pay-to-win regardless of what the cash shop contains.
>>14599713 You act as though the Touhou games are at all relevant. The majority of the "fans" both in the West and the East have never 1 CC'd even one of the games; they got into the series either because of meme-tier internet shit, remixed music, or pornography.
Likewise with the creators--for many of the more talented and serious ones, it's less them drawing Touhou for years because they love it so much as it is them drawing something that already has an established audience in the hopes that it will be a springboard for them to go pro. Is it a surprise that they would jump ship (hurr) to something that they felt would offer them better opportunities?
It's entirely natural that both the fans and creators are fickle in their loyalty to Touhou given that their reasons for getting into it to begin with are so nebulous to begin with.
That being said, it is sad that Touhou is being beaten out by a soulless and shitty flash game that is being made, directed, and managed by an unscrupulous marketing team. It shows how stupid your average Japanese wota is that they would not immediately repudiate and ridicule such an obvious attempt to manipulate them.
I hate Kancolle primarily because I'm Chinese, and Japs masturbating both figuratively and literally to their old warships is a circlejerk I don't understand and cannot approve of. (Nanjing Massacre never forget and all that)
Touhou on the other hand is just cute-ified folklore, and ZUN even included some of our legends in the games, especially the latest one, which is great.
>>14604688 You honestly seem pretty upset that people are referring to artists as they perceive them. Did you even consider that they weren't making a personal attack on your fandom? Calm down dude. They've still made more touhou doujin than kancolle.
>>14616338 Sometimes I really feel like I am a race traitor. I am surrounded by people that hate grorious nippon.
I don't even dare to let them or my parents especially to know that I am wasting my life obsessing with japanese 2d girls and their name sake boat that bombed my ancestors homeland.
It is common to hear phrase like "Gonna go bomb some nihojin" when they go to the bathroom to take a dump and all sort of other derogatory insults whenever the issue of senkaku islands or sporting event involving japan get brought up in the media.
What's really ironic is that the Chinese are the ones going to all these events and scanning all the Kancolle doujins instead of the Touhou ones.
Even if Touhou had more doujin circles in all the events this year combined (not just Comiket), it doesn't mean shit to us if none of the foreigners that attend these events bother scan any of their works.
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