Rhythm Game Thread

I just picked up LR2.
I can only pass 3's and its suffering.

>>14559263
Hang in there. I've been playing IIDX casually throughout 2015, and I'm clearing 8's now.

Do you have a controller? It makes the game a lot more fun.

>>14559263
Practice more.

>>14559263
stop using zsxdcfv

also don't worry when I started iidx i failed a 3

R-Random is cheating.

tfw breaking into 10s

>>14559909
tfw still stuck in 7s

>>14559909
>tfw I can pass a single 9 but I regularly fail 6's

fucking bag

>>14559202
Dearest Anons, I drew that crappy tran last week only to find out free leech was going on. Once it's over, I will draw anything BEMANI related for a precious invite.

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>nanahira new album drop

>>14560105
drawings go in irc here we only accept mayumi cum tributes

>>14560105
If you're the same guy as last time, I already emailed you

Anyone been to the round 1 in Chicago?
How are the machines there

>>14560053
>tfw I can pass a single 9
Which one? It sounds easy.

>>14560655
Routing. It's an 8 at most, personally.

I'm about 75/25 on 6's, 50/50 on 7's, 25/75 on 8's if I were to guess.

>>14560658
try sakura reflection, that was my first 9

How much do you guys think each girl would charge for compensated dating?

Iroha is obviously the sluttiest of them all, so I wouldn't be surprised if she only charges 10,000 yen with bareback as an option. Lilina is the shy bookworm type, so she probably doesn't have any experience, and she's into occult stuff, so you might be able to take advantage of her naivety if you convince her there's some spooky white ectoplasm haunting your dick.

Ameto is probably pretty innocent but not clueless, and she'd probably do whatever's needed to help support her sisters. I imagine she'd charge a standard rate of 30,000 yen; no bareback allowed, of course. Hifumi, on the other hand, aware of her voluptuousness and what kind of men would be attracted to her mistress-type aura, wouldn't go lower than 40,000 yen, and the session would probably involve more abuse and derision of the guy than sex.

Xiatian is the friendly girl-next-door type. She's not slutty, but she also doesn't see sex as a big deal. She'd probably accept 20,000 yen, and the happiness of the guy having sex with her would mean more than the money. Finally, Tsugaru is probably still shy when it comes to guys, but she knows about compensated dating and she's hard pressed for cash. She'd probably charge 15,000 yen, unaware that such a large amount to her is peanuts in the industry, and she'd let the guy cum inside because she doesn't realize what will happen after he does.

>>14560658
Try with you... and mermaid girl remix.

>>14559909
tfw miraculously pass Miracle 5ympho X on 8th dan

>>14559909
tfw also breaking into 10s

I can hclear anything at 8 except scratch songs and difficult 1-handed sections(which is like 3 of my songs) and I can hclear maybe 75% of my 9s but 10s are impenetrable. I need to find a good high 9/low 10 practice song to spam.

>>14560181
Replied!

What level do I need to be at not be considered a scrub in Pop'n?

>>14561896
you are either the best player in the world or you're a scrub

now get back to practicing

6th Dan, can get to The Safari in 7th Dan with 50%. Is getting to 9th Dan a realistic goal for 2016 with 5-20 hrs/week of play?

>>14562153
I don't see why not, i went from 6th dan to 8th dan in two days with two hours every day.

We need a IIDX simulator that we can run on cabinets like Stepmania...

>>14562225
why would you want that

>>14562229
Why not? that way even if an arcade can't run a modern IIDX style they can still run a sim and have custom charts.

i guess screen size makes a bigger difference than i thought
played on my 32" tv instead of my 24" monitor for a change and started getting +50-150 on my scores

>>14562225
we need a IIDX simulator that does not crash between every song

>>14561418
The real miracle 5ympho X was somehow mashing gigadelic when I cleared 8th dan

>>14562522
come on LR2 isnt that bad

>>14562545
*between every third song

>>14562522
turn off the song select background video ya dingus, i haven't had it crash in a year

Who /stepmania/ here

>>14562664
I only play pad stuff these days and endless ITG streams on spread-keyboard

>>14562552
>apply 4GB memory patch
>now only crashes after playing six songs
How come people are still using this piece of shit today? Is there really no other good alternatives?

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>>14562788
>don't even have 4gb patch
>can usually play for at least an hour straight without a crash

Cleared Copula SP 9th dan today

Feels good man

why does /jp/ dislike osu?

>>14563707
I suck with the shitty mouse I have and don't have a touch screen.

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>Had a DDR session at the only machine location within 100 mi. earlier this week
>tfw the roof of the place caves in literally the next day from snow and is closed indefinitely unless it gets repaired
stepmania will d-do, I guess...

>>14563707
The most hate [citation needed] comes from shitty scoring system (favors combos over overall accuracy). Then there are people who hate how jew peppy is. Also the community itself but every one of them are shit in some ways.

>>14562788
I've literally never had LR2 crash

osu is the #1 post on reddit right now

every other rhythm game confirmed irrelevant now

>>14565660
Here is your reply.

>>14565715
>getting baited by joke posts

>>14563707
the game is less about music and rhythm and more about how fast you can move your mouse/pen around.

also the scoring system sucks and the community is one of the worst in online games.

>>14565774
your acc is going to be shit if you don't play to the rhythm and acc counts for a shit ton of pp

>>14563888
At least you weren't there when it collapsed.

>>14565754
Sure m8 :^)

>>14563888
tfw it doesn't snow here and arcades have no issues because 10 METERS TO THE CEILING

>>14565783
accuracy is completely secondary. being able to FC something with whatever mod is more important than accuracy is. accuracy is just for edging out a rank above someone who has the same type of FC as you. not to mention that maintaining good accuracy in osu! is easy most of the time.

aim plays a dramatically larger role in determining who can FC more maps than accuracy ever will in osu!. in good rhythm games accuracy is literally the entire scoring system.

>>14565808
yeah you can maintain acc if you nomod everything, but once you add HR or DT getting good acc isn't an easy feat

HR really makes osu! fun, especially if you add hidden into the mix.

>>14565820
osu! is never as fun as bms.

>>14565660
stepmania is going to be at the biggest speedrunning event of the year tho

>>14565858
>stepmania speedrun

wait what how does that even work

you can't make a game go faster in stepmania

Are they just going to do like first to 10,000 EX score or what

>>14565917
i think it's a foot sliding joke.

>>14565954
but anon stepmania is played with the keyboard

also I checked and holy fuck he's right they're actually doing it the absolute madmen

>>14565917
>>14565968
it's actually just going to be a superplay demonstration, not a speedrun. the schedule says "showcase" rather than what type of run it is.

maybe some iidx god should come out of the woodwork and do a PS2 Empress showcase or something.

>>14565660
that stream was hype as fuck
dude's such a god

How can people say SDVX has good music when 80+% (at least booth and infinite infection) of songs are shitty diarrhea tier rock/metal songs

>>14566758
the last 20% is all that matters

>>14566758
because the remaining 20% is all my favorite doujin artists

>>14566758
no one said sdvx has good music

>>14566758
How can people say Pop'n Music has good music when 80% of all songs are anime or shit music?

>>14566891
Wow, that's shit taste.

>>14566877
I like SDVX music.

IF ONLY MY RATIO WASN'T SO SHIT

>>14567036
>he didn't enjoy the freeleech week
KEK
I feel sorry for you ;-;

>>14566007
kevinddr was playin 2dx off stream at sgdq

lmao #1 osu mania player is banned from playing in their yearly tournament for acting like a dick

>>14567036
how can you be so stupid that your ratio goes below 1.5? Since i joined i haven't dropped under that and i'm currently almost at 150 GB upload and still less than 60 downloaded.

>>14566811
ya but don't you run out of songs to play in like 20 minutes? maybe even less...

refrain is the best taka song in years

>>14567248
honestly as long as the song is fun to play even meh songs can become easy to get into musically

that's always been one of my favorite things about rhythm games. they get me to really enjoy stuff i would never listen to in other circumstances

How do 1048 players usually hit trills on 1 and 3?
Should i shift my right hand to 3 or should I try to put my left middle and index finger on 1 and 3 and hit it like that?

>>14560781
1: What kind of question is this?
2: you have shit taste because I don't see Tsugaru or Celica listed

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tfw no one ever plays shitty beat stream.

>>14567534
I'm not a 1048 player, but my play style has my middle finger in the same place, i just use my left and right middle finger on 1 and 3 respectively and let my wrist do the movement instead of my fingers.

>>14567551
I do.

>>14567537
he listed Tsugaru in the same paragraph as Xiatian.

>>14567551
>tfw i want to play Beatstream but no cabs anywhere outside japan

>>14567551
easily the worst part of doing the summary diary
the gameplay itself is alright but the songs are garbage and it's a huge grind to unlock anything good

>>14567560
>summary diary

>>14566891
pop'n music has the perfect soundtrack for my weeb taste desu and i love it

>>14567555
How unfortunate.

>>14567560
>summary diary

The what.

>>14567590
summer diary
two of the days involved playing either beatstream or jubeat, and jubeat has even worse songs, an even worse grind and isn't even fun

>>14567601
>Jubeat worse than beatstream

Omega triggered.

This isn't Bemani but I got around to downloading Amplitude and this shit is cool as fuck.

Glad I backed this one.

>>14567601
jubeat has some odd inclusions but is otherwise a pretty solid title.

Beatstream really does a bad songlist if you don't like anime theme/character songs.

>>14567626
I really want to play amplitude... fucking hell, why is ps4 only?

>>14566758
Rock/metal? Really? SDVX? It's mostly edm/electronic music. GitaDora may be what you're thinking of.

>>14567667
you're the only one that disagreed with what I said booth/infinite infection is wayyy way majority shitty rock literally almost every song has cosMo or feat GUMI or sometimes even both

>>14566891
the other 20% gives me my celtic/folk fix

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i fucking did it! after over an hour of slaving away spamming 10s i finally managed to clear one.

now to grind 9s for a week or so until i can clear another 10

>>14567771
>Judge: Easy
probably cleared it with Random too

>>14567777
nope, i don't like random because it feels like i didn't pass the song for real

is there a way to change the judge setting? i'd like to have it on normal all the time but i assumed it was specific to each song

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>average bemani user

>>14567715
I like GUMI.

>>14567786
word

I wish we were always as active as the thread is now

So, new IIDX player here, and this is technically my first rhythm game that isn't shit like Project Diva f. I just have a few questions:

>I have the pendual version of IIDX, what should I do to make sure it's as beginner friendly as possible?

>I don't own a controller(yet), so what should I be mapping my keys to on my keyboard?

>>14565806
They had high ceilings as well since it was a large place. It was easily 10m high.

>>14565784
It happened overnight while it was closed and presumably had nobody working there (save for maybe janitorial workers). I feel more concerned for the people who work there who suddenly don't have work now. I've had friends of mine who have worked there part time in the past. Just sucks to imagine losing your job like that.

>>14567821
there are all kinds of keyboard layouts that have worked out for people over the years

your main decision should be whether you want to use one pinky for scratch or you want to learn to use both thumbs so you can use your ring finger for scratch(like ABCD, a top LR2 player). also decide which side you want the scratch on.

you can also just set it up arcade style if you're going to be getting a controller really soon. that would be the easiest to transition from.

a lot of it comes down to your keyboard though so i can't just straight up tell you which layouts to use. you need to experiment. use this to test for ghosting:

https://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/KeyboardGhostingDemo.mspx

>>14567715
80% remains a ridiculous overstatement, especially given the relatively high total number of songs across those two games.

http://bemaniwiki.com/index.php?SOUND%20VOLTEX%20II%20-infinite%20infection-%2F%BF%B7%B6%CA%A5%EA%A5%B9%A5%C8

80% rock/metal?

(This page has links to samples of most tracks. It's the tracks from I/II that are still in GW).
http://bemaniwiki.com/index.php?SOUND%20VOLTEX%20III%20GRAVITY%20WARS%2F%B5%EC%B6%CA%A5%EA%A5%B9%A5%C8

>>14567036
Jesus...the past two freeleeches got me to 3 TB. Stop being shit.

>>14567551
I forgot that game even existed once the shitposting after the initial cabinet reveal stopped

>>14567900
after scrolling though infinite infection and listening to previews I can understand how you can say 80% is high but there are a lot of just fucking terrible music and that's fine the games fun but theres no way people can say sdvx has even decent music which was the original argument the effects carry a lot of the songs anyways

>>14567970
Yeah, the hit rate for songs I actually like playing/listening to is a bit low, but the sheer amount of tracks available at each level really makes up for it I think. Compared to the other 'newer' titles (even jubeat), the selection's pretty good.

>>14567929
Even i with australian tier internet manage to keep a good ratio of 2.5-ish and got to around 150 GB last freeleech.

i only play pop'n and ddr desu

>>14567551
>beat stream is shit
>Museca in the background
senpai...

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>>14567556
There's 2 in Thailand now

>>14568146
>Misread beatstream as beatmania

Disregard that, I suck cocks

>tfw britbong
>tfw nowhere near london
why live when all i have is euromix

>>14568160
at least you can listen to cool eurobeat on the radio, right?

>>14568185
hah
hah
i fucking wish...

>>14567821
>I have the pendual version of IIDX, what should I do to make sure it's as beginner friendly as possible?
You should get Pendual Enabler and turn on everything. It unlocks songs normally locked behind eAmuse, disables the annoying timers, and by playing on Premium Free with no timer, you'll never get a Game Over.

https://github.com/kclkcl/pendual-enabler

If you decide you like IIDX, buy/build a controller sooner rather than later. The worse you are at the game, the easier it'll be to transition.

>>14568160
Tfw on the opposite end of the country.

Guess I'll just order a controller

>>14568237
get omnimix

>>14565774
>the game is less about music and rhythm and more about how fast you can move your mouse/pen around.
Because SDVX completely ruining the song with it's "kool effekts XD" is totally acceptable.

>>14571146
Well, yeah, Bemani did start as "DJ pretend games", which is literally what SDVX is.

>>14571374
I thought sdvx was a nipple twisting fetish camouflaged as a rhythm game.

>>14571405
I thought pop'n was an ass spanking fetish camouflaged as a rhythm game

>>14571768
That's my fetish.

>>14568237
btw if you go the Premium Free no timer route, remember to log out at the end of your session so you can get your dick wagging points.

>>14571986
How do you do this?

>>14572008
the same as quitting out of a song. VEFX + effect If I remember right

>>14571146
the sound voltex knobs are basically just handicaps for the actual tappatap gameplay, like a more extreme version of scratching in IIDX. it's still a lot more musical than mashing zx and moving your mouse around real fast.

>>14571146
That has nothing to do with rhythm.

>>14565783
>your acc is going to be shit if you don't play to the rhythm
but there is almost no rhythm in osu, everything in that game is basically random 8th or random quarter notes all over the place that are in time with the music so it gives off the illusion of something being rhythmic but its not, or even worse than that people will map circles to a bit that's not the main/loudest thing in a song, like there's a fucking map that maps to a fucking tambourine so it can have some horrible 16th note stream that you can barely hear already, and if you're like most players you're probably going to have hitsounds that are louder than music so that already quite part of the music is most likely going to be inaudible over the "ping" and "pop" that most players have as hitsounds. And perhaps best of all, nearly every beatmap past 4.5 stars has overmapped triples that are mapped to LITERALLY NOTHING, these are put into the game mostly because all of the shitty weeaboo music that makes up 90% of the music in osu would be so boring without them.

also, accuracy is COMPLETELY irrelevant if you're not full comboing shit, go look at the scoreboards of almost every hard streamy map, you'll see tons of really shit acc plays beating 90% acc like on Blue Zenith there's a fucking 77% beating like a 98% and that's ridiculous.

and maybe worst of all is sliders don't even have timing windows, you will get 300s on sliders no matter what, it doesn't matter if you hit them in time or not you're going to get a 300, they're basically free accuracy.

>>14568160
Get a long-distance coach (something like Megabus) and join us for Q1 in March, we have lockins, so you can sleep over and play all night for £10!

Be sure to tune into AGDQ on Thursday to watch the fastest Stepmania player arrowsmash for charity!

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>>14572324
>keyboard
But I'll watch it anyway. That guy's finger speed is way faster than mine will ever be.

Pop'ns battle mode is surprisingly hard

fuck fast rolls

how long until pop'n music becomes an anime

>>14572257
Yeah, i was told that when i posted on the "Bemanarchy in the uk" thread a few weeks ago, i might come down if i have the opportunity.

>>14572257
you make me wish i wasn't a silly american

>>14565774
Granted the scoring system is retarded but that has nothing to do with the game or skill involved in playing it. The timing window on OD10 is 19ms, and you have to be precise in your timing not only in your rhythm, but you also have to have good timing in your aim. Rushing or dragging behind in your tapping can result in a 100, but being anything less than perfect in your aiming will make you miss.

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Posting this just in case anyone's interested in the differences between DDR and ITG timing and scoring.
Also fuck Stepmania developers for refusing to implement good DDR emulation.

>>14573613
Why are there a bunch of half frames on the DDR side. This is incorrect beyond the Marvelous and Perfect windows.

It also only applies to songs that have a BPM of 90, 150, 180, etc., since frame rounding at other BPMs causes the windows to wiggle around constantly.

>>14573835
One frame = 16.(6) ms.
I read somewhere that DDR keeps separate timing windows for early and late steps for Great and Good ratings, which is something Stepmania doesn't emulate. Not sure if it's true, those differences would be probably too small to notice.

>>14572897
it already is one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfSZ4WCLw6M

>>14574063
I'm used to bemani games having different early and late windows. That is not an issue.

Assuming the DDR scale is centered around a frame boundary (Marvelous window is two frames, so that's one early and one late frame, with the center in between them), the Great, Good, and Miss windows do not make sense since they appear to fall on half frames (91.(6) ms, 108.(3) ms, 141.(6) ms 158.(3) ms, and 191.(6) ms).

>Marvelous: 2/120 s (16.666 ms)
>Perfect: 4/120 s (33.333 ms)
>Great: 13/120 s (108.333 ms) early / 11/120 s (91.666 ms) late
>Good: 19/120 s (158.333 ms) early / 17/60 s (141.666 ms) late
>(early) Miss: 23/120 s (191.666 ms)

That's what's written everywhere on the internet. Maybe someone made an error that snowballed out of control and is now parrotted by everyone. Or maybe Konami's just bad at programming. Either way the lower of those values is what I plugged into Stepmania to get as close to DDR as possible, and even make certain early/late timings a bit stricter.

>>14574223
>Maybe someone made an error that snowballed out of control and is now parrotted by everyone.
It wouldn't be the first time.

>>14574067
osu users doubled the bpm of this song to make it 278BPM just to make it harder

>>14574319
How does that make it harder?

It's the same as keeping it at original BPM and mapping to 16th instead of 8th notes or something.

Most osu songs are overmapped anyway.

>>14574319
does anyone care about osu?

>>14574420
they shouldnt

>>14574357
I don't know osu but maybe it affects the note appear speed or something

>>14574486
That's governed by the AR, BPM doesn't affect anything.

>>14574357
>>14574486
>>14574537
it doesn't necessarily make it harder but it can change what the object density is depending on the AR, like on AR9 there would be a lot more circles on screen at 278BPM than there would be at the proper 139BPM.

>>14566007

Rhythm game block at gdq when.
Probably never because they'd have to have the actual cabinets or play Sims like lr2

>>14574866
If you have 4 circles timed 1 second apart, it doesn't matter whether the BPM is 120 or 240, they will look exactly the same because the Approach Rate is the only variable that changes how fast notes appear. It's not like IIDX where halving the BPM also makes notes scroll slower.

today i'm going to get a nice big breakfast, take a shower and sit down on my ass and play bms for at least 6 hours.

I know this is rhythm game general but is there arcade data available for bishi bashi on sows or somewhere else? It's a relatively old game and you could play it with a pop'n controller with some friends, just wondering

>>14576359
yes.

>>14576219
but what about work

>>14576506
i quit my job a month ago and became a neet again so i have nothing better to do but tap on keys all day.

>>14576604
Shit, me too anon
I'm currently hunting for a job that doesn't make me want to hang myself

Fortunately my parents baby me so I can neet it up while I find something better

>>14576617
hopefully we can get a lot better while we have no obligations. it's gonna be hard for me to practice like this after i find more work so i might as well blow a couple weeks on abusing my keyboard.

does anyone really want an invite I have 5 and no friends
post your favorite style in either IRC channel and i'll pm you get ready for the pop quiz

guess no one needs one

>>14559202
I just started LR2 after the nightmare that is setting it up. Pretty fun can clear up to 4's without too much trouble.

>>14576359
it's on sows.

buying bemani gf

hclear'd a few 10s first try today. progress!

>>14577114
congrats on getting through the setup process, the highest difficulty spike in LR2.

I think my little sister plays ITG
I went to the kitchen and she was covered in talcum powder.

Cleared benibotan [a] on AC

Aww yiss

>>14577945
turn her into your bemani gf

>>14578140
i don't have time for people who slide their feet.

>>14578197
teach her the ways of button slapping and wrist scratching

how does one get into pop'n desu

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>>14577658
here, take this

>>14578407
step 1: make a tumblr

>>14578407
>>14579395
Step 2: be a furfag

>>14575923
That it's the current year and we don't have adjustable AR is a testament to peppy's intelligence. When you've got the best players saying that some maps are unplayable because the AR, you should probably evaluate your game's mechanics.

>>14578407
>>14579395
>>14579429
step 3: have shit taste in music

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This plot is amazing.

>>14578407
play 9k on lr2

>>14580694
that's bad advice
pop'n is really only enjoyable with an asc

>>14578407

Go buy 9 hamburgers and start smackin em

>>14580452
he didn't ask to get into gitadora

>>14580829
then he can play 9k on lr2 with an asc

>>14580829
you do realize ASC's work on LR2, right?

feel when the 12 wall is eroding away your passion for iidx

>>14581479
My suggestion would be maybe take a break and try BMS for awhile, or try using random if you aren't already-

>>14581479
just try scoring on lower difficulties for a while

focus on something else and come back fresh

>>14581688
This is how i broke into 11s.

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>>14559202
That moment of clarity where all of a sudden you're passing all these charts you were struggling with earlier. It's even funnier when I haven't played in a week cause I've been busy.

#4 11 - Erosion Mark
#5 - Mendes
#6 - Believe in Me
#7 - Blind Justice
#8 - Halfway of Promise
#9 - Wonder Bullfighters
#10 - Rislim Remix (fun chart)
#11 - Take it Easy

NEVER GIVE UP

Does anyone know if there is ANY superstar mitsuru merch other than cd

do you guys play with your controller in your lap or on a desk

>>14582017
I do both, I prefer lap though

who's the nigger?

Why the fuck is my accuracy absolute ass with data but not in lr2

>>14582017
desk, i play with uskoc and putting it on my lap would mean tossing the thing across the room whenever i scratch

>>14582083
lap with koc, desk with asc

>>14582091
lr2 has fucking huge timing windows.

also lol unstable fps, lol monitors, lol f.lux, lol having anything running in the background at all while playing data, etc.

>>14581897
Erosion Mark isn't that hard.

>>14582017
Desk, FP7 is too big for my lap, i play standing too so...

>>14582017
i play on top of a pizzabox that's on top of my lap

so both i guess

>>14582017
on top of a bunch of boxes and books because there's no other decent variable height solution

>>14582017
FPS and desk while sitting.

tfw dark schneider too fast for shitter hands

do crossovers ever happen in popn?

>>14582350
Erosion Mark is harder than some of the 11s I passed so far.

>>14581054
its so true it hurts

>broke 12 wall
>no IIDX AC until summer break

If only keyboard IIDX translates to AC.

>>14582017
I put mine ontop of the box it came in on my desk
I find it easier to play while standing

>>14582097
>lol f.lux
is this a joke? people play with flux?

>>14583957
get a controller anon

>>14583957
id rather play on a keyboard at home rather than dump money into iidx ac

>>14583999
I've left it on by accident when playing AC and wondered why the fuck the FPS during the monitor check was going between 58 and 61.

>>14582091
Timing windows in LR2 are significantly larger than AC data (+-21ms vs +-16.67ms for JGreat window). Even on normal the timing windows in LR2 are noticeably larger (+-18ms).

Does anyone know of a way to get the background videos for songs in LR2. I have a for videos for 1st-10th style but none after.

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Hello, friends! I've been playing a bit of Beatmania ever since /v/ told me about the game, and while it's a lot of fun, there are a few songs I find... gross. Possibly the worst offender I've seen so far is pic related: There's an entire song full of suggestive pictures of a girl who can't be older than 10.

As much as I respect artistic integrity, can't we leave paedophilia out of music games? Does anyone disagree that Konami could use some oversight on this?

>>14584568
afaik the arcade centers in japan are for adults. I dont see the problem here

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>>14584568
Welcome to Japan, take a complimentary loli and git out

>>14582097
>>14584370

Is there a way to change the timing in lr2 to be stricter and emulate arcade timing windows?

>>14584782
I don't think so. Somebody just needs to make a new simulator for IIDX and Pop 'n. LR2 hasn't been updated in a longggg ass time.

>>14584782
>>14584917
Actually I believe there is, but it's done on a per-BMS basis, defined in the file.

There might be a program that automatically rewrites all your files to have standard timings, but this would disqualify them from Internet Ranking, and even if there is such a program it's probably in Japanese or Korean and I can't read it.

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What are some good rhythm games for beginners in the genre?

>>14585007
keyboard stepmania.

>>14585007

Stepmania desu

>>14583362
It was literally the first 11 i passed.

>>14585007
Stpemania.
Go for LR2 if you're feeling brave.

>>14585091
It was my 4th

but I find Miracle Meets, Halfway of Promise, Wonder Bullfighter, and maybe Rock Da House easier (don't remember the chart).

That said passed another 14 11s. No brakes on the 11 train.

>>14585170
Try Colosseum, it pretty easy for an 11.

>>14585264
I got Colosseum (fun song).
I actually am keeping track with my absolutely dogshit opinion that I'll probably fix when I'm actually able to beat hard stuff.

http://pastebin.com/Ur1AmHMx

Working on Valgus but I keep failing with 60-70%.

>>14584782
>>14584917
There's one called LunarBeat I believe, and it has some nice features like adjustable playing speed to practice if I remember correctly. However it's still early and when I tried it about 6 months ago it didn't seem to perform fluently, but I'm sur in a few years it will be great if they keep working on it

>>14585484
it's sows only for now.

>>14585484
>like adjustable playing speed
floating high-speed? Cause that would be a godsend.

>>14585484
lunarbeat is nice purely for analog turntable support, using an arcin for lr2 is shaky at best
i wish it got updated more often though

>>14585484
>>14585595
I wouldn't rely on it. The creator hasn't logged onto sows in 8 months. Not sure if she is still working on the project or not.

>>14585484
If you mean playing a song at half/0.75x/whatever speed, LR2 can do that. It's just hidden away in the effector options for some reason. You'll know you enabled the right option if the song select music slowed down/speeds up. It's the one that's on +0 by default and goes from -12 to +12.

I spent all my money on an FP7
Save me

>>14584568
It's a drawing

>>14585669
i wish i had money to spend on an FP7

>>14585699
I wish I had money.

>>14585715
I wish I had freetime

>>14585484
>when I tried it about 6 months ago it didn't seem to perform fluently
Jesus, how hard can it be to write a competent Beatmania simulator? Is it just lack of interest that's lead to people coping with LR2 for all these years?

>>14585951
it's actually decently difficult. However it's mostly lack of interest. That guy had almost a playable laggy build a year ago that had more features than lr2. If he actually spent the last 12 months working on it he probably would have a decent version out now.

>>14586216
well he censored the bellybutton everyone knows the bellybutton is the lewdest part

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Hey anons anyone got a tutorial for setting up some jubeat got some HDD data here but kinda clueless

>>14586812
/jp/ is not pirated tech support, go to sows.

And if you don't have access there you shouldn't have data anyway.

>>14586812
This is rhythm game talk, not HDD support, go to sows for that.

>>14586831
ya big help thats great if you cant help why respond

>>14586893
He did help, he told you you aren't going to find results here and pointed you to a place where you can get help.

>>14585020
>>14585023
>>14585114

Is there any merit to using the cursors for playing or should I change to something like x c v b?

>>14587293
no merit unless you just enjoy it. use your index and middle finger on both hands. doesn't matter where the keys are placed specifically as long as it's comfortable.

>>14587293
Two fingers on cursor keys are a pretty accurate substitute of dancepad. Even more so on numpad, but you'll have a lot of trouble memorising where the arrow keys are at the beginning. If you play charts made with dancepad in mind (all official DDR and ITG material), any other control setup will trivialise a lot of technical challenges of some of the harder charts, such as crossovers.
In increasing degree of "cheating", you have four fingers of one hand on four buttons in line (like xcvb), two fingers of two hands on four buttons and four fingers of two hands on eight buttons. But that's only for dancepad charts. There's plenty of material made specifically for the last one of those three setups that would be impossible to pass for anyone on dancepad.
For reference, I started with four fingers of one hand setup and took about four months to get to the level where I could comfortably C rank DDR 17s and some 18s. After switching to two fingers on cursor keys I couldn't pass shit and had to take baby steps from the very beginning. Still can't pass any 15 with this.

If you have any amount of interest in playing actual DDR, playing "index" with StepMania can help you polish your technique and reading ability, as long as you treat each hand as a foot.

>>14585336
No new sensation [a]?

It was my first 11. Then again I love chord heavy charts

Did the difficulty ratings from recent styles got easier, or is just me good with a certain playstyle that is always there in modern tracks? I passed 90% of Pendual's 9s on my first try when it came out, and I have every 9 from Lincle and Tricoro cleared except one, with A on almost everything but when I try older styles, like DJ Troopers and older, I find a lot of 9s that I can't pass at all and fail with C

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>Frustrated because I fail 9s and soft 10s with A in IIDX
>Try BMS of fighters tracks in LR2 to change mood
>I am now failing 10s with AA

>>14588317
LR2 has wider timing windows, but that doesn't fix sucking.

feel when you're a 38 player and lapistoria 32s are kicking your butt~

>>14588467
Are lapistoria songs harder than most pop'n?

>>14587293
unless you want to be limited to pad and index files dont bother no one plays like that anymore and youll be at a huge disadvantage

has anyone here played chunithm yet? been watching some vids and the ergonomics look wonderful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwIL4vLeueU

>>14588317
>Try BMS of fighters tracks in LR2 to change mood
>I am now failing 10s with AA
And now you'll get Bs instead of As in IIDX. The timing windows in LR2 are retardedly huge.

>>14588113
I feel that Pendual's charts are significantly easier compared to most of the modern styles for their difficulty levels. Routing and Tokimeki are the only 11s I haven't hard cleared yet on SP and there are a lot of low-12s introduced in the game, probably to make climbing the 12 ladder a bit smoother.

>>14588480
He might be struggling since HDMI input has audio lag without tinkering with hex codes.

>>14588113
>>14588897
They are easier but older charts definitely has a different design philosophy around it.

Most newer charts I notice tend to just throw dense shit at you. Older charts will have awkward patterns and jacks. Also I've never been good 7, 6+7 stuff which shows up in a lot of old charts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW1pFu-YeJc (2p side cause this is one of the only videos on youtube I can find of SPA).

>>14588897
is there some kind of hex edit that helps with hdmi lag? you're right that i was playing on it and it fucked with the timing window so hard that the actual judge line is way ABOVE the displayed line

but if there's lag and the song's clearable i should still be able to do it with a shit score, but they just destroy my gauge here. the charts all feel harder than SP charts of the same level

>>14588960
Should be in the HDD thread for LP on sows.

>>14588954
Old charts loved to throw you through loops and were not afraid to have four key chords that weren't 1357 on charts rated 6-8 and they aren't straight forward as modern charts since they weren't as streamy. You would never see something like Schlagwerk, LAB, Let's run, celebrate, or Y31 in modern games like Pendual or copula, especially for the difficulty levels they were rated. I kind of miss charts like those since they had a lot of character to them for better or worse (well, at least on SP. Old DP charts can fucking rot in hell).

>>14586831
> Not a pirate tech support
> Stepmanias anyways.

Anyone here watching stepmania on the AGDQ stream?
twitch,tv/gdq

>>14589276
no

>>14589276
sound voltex name dropped

https://twitter.com/EggmaniMN/status/685212324353839105

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That AGDQ StepMania with Staiain was wonderful.

>>14589421
It was pretty impressive until ponies. Immediatelly shut the stream down when I saw one. Fucking cancer.

>>14589485
>being autistic enough to get triggered by a pony song label put in place by whatever sperg charted the song, has literally nothing to do with the run or the guy playing

>>14589606
>Being autistic enough to find stepmania to be a decent rhythm game.
>TFW not IIDX

>Dave and Busters getting DDR2014 in over half of their locations
>Stepmania website crashes from too many trying to download the game

Is this the revival of rhythm games in the west?

>>14590121
but western IIDX players are so autistic
hell western rhythm game players in general are autists

>>14590190
rhythm game players in general are autistic.

>>14590221
video game players in general are autistic

>>14590259
this t b h

>>14589269
>PIRATED TECH SUPPORT
he's talking about HDD data you ass.

Are Copula's dan courses listed online anywhere?
remywiki doesn't seem to have a page for them yet

>>14590573
yes

what do you think nanahira sounds like in bed

>>14591148
HAI
HAI
HAI
HAI

>>14588683
Ya played.

Also those exaggerated hand movements in the video lol. Not actually playing a piano at a concert performance, calm down fag.

>>14591148
Grab one of her songs and skip around with the arrow keys, that's your answer.

>>14591292
At least he can pull them off, 90% of the chunithm videos i see have the same exaggerated movements and miss every 3rd note.

>>14591373
what are those arrow looking notes? do you swipe up on the touch area or something?

>>14591483
handz up
there are vertical sensors on the sides that detect how high your hands are
looking ridiculous while playing those notes is the entire point, that's why it's called chunithm

>>14591483
there's a motion sensor

What kind of hardware/software do I need to play rhythm games like beatmania?
I'm assuming for software I'll just need an emulator and the game files? If need to spend lots of cash to buy special controllers I'm thinking it might not be worth my time.

>>14591697
You can play on keyboard.

>>14591697
You don't "need" the controller but there really is no point in playing without the controllers.

For hardware any decent hardware that can play relatively recent titles on medium. Except for sound voltex where I randomly have slowdowns during knobs on my r9 280x/i5 which makes no sense especially since it doesn't look like a demanding game.

>>14591697
>I'm assuming for software I'll just need an emulator and the game files?
You either need simulators (google "ultimate lunatic rave 2 guide") or naughty arcade cracks, there's nothing you run in an emulator.

Yes, you can play on keyboard, but it's not quite the same. You can get relatively cheap setups by just buying one of the PS2 controllers and a decent adapter though.

>>14591749
I literally run sound voltex II with 4 gigs of ram, a 1.5 ghz processor and integrated graphics with no slowdowns and just a small graphical glitch with the backgrounds ingame.

>>14591807
Yeah I don't understand issue. It's the only game I have issue and it's very arbitrary since there can be crazy knob levels with no slow downs. Suddenly a song with a single knob use and it'll blow up.. It works on my friend's set up who has a similar spec than you and it doesn't work on mine.

I don't want to buy the controller until I figure out the issue.

>>14591817
Try a dedicated computer, it shouldn't be too expensive making one just for SDVX

>>14591776
Which adapters are decent, if any?

>>14591148
ahn~ you're so 最the高

>>14591697
you can just get LR2 and play on keyboard. It's not the same experience as playing on a controller, but it's still really fun. Just different.
https://www.reddit.com/r/lunaticrave2/wiki/index is the best guide out there on how to set it up, and you'll need it.

>>14591697
It depends on the game. DJMax Trilogy is a great beginner's rhythm game that meshes really well with keyboard. Stepmania, osu!mania and o2jam are all popular games that have charts/gamemodes well-suited to keyboard play. BMS isn't perfect on keyboard but can still work well as long as you're willing to put a little bit more work into certain aspects of the game.

I recommend trying out whichever one of these games that interests you the most on keyboard, then deciding from there how much you're willing to spend on the hobby. I think there are cheaper IIDX controllers out there, but most controllers for other games as well as higher quality IIDX controllers are going to be like 150 bare minimum.

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>Starting to get good at the IIDX on pad.
>cleared SigSig (H)
>mfw Tuneru Caruparusenpai noticed me.
Kill me now.

>>14592387
pad as in koc?

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So I can play osu! for years without any problems, but the very moment I try SM I get wrist and hand pains.

>>14592508
might wanna re-evaluate your hand position

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>>14592498
FP7.
So far my strategy has always been to jam harder.
I can't time my press if I'm not making loud noises with the keys, but I can't see myself clearing Another/BMS-tier charts like that.

I could try using my right thumb instead of relying on my index/middle to do everything.
Too bad I can't hit stairs like that.

Guess I'll just be a scrub forever.

>>14592387
You shouldn't be getting carpal tunnel with IIDX unless you're wrist scratching.

>>14592717
Are you 1p? If so you should be using 4 fingers with your right hand.

>>14591776
The cost of old KOCs is so high now that it might actually be more reasonable to build your own controller with the cheapest chinese parts possible.

I did mine, with blinky lights, for 125 dollars.

Hopefully it doesn't catch on fire or give me lead poisoning.

>>14592717
it's definitely worth learning to use both thumbs, even if it makes stairs harder.

>>14592727
>>14592757

I'll do my best.

>>14592719
I don't use my wrist for IIDX but I do use both of them to play Pop'n on my upside down FP7.

>>14592717
What hand position are you using?

Assuming 1P, it should be either

S Lpinky, 1 Lmiddle, 2 Lindex, 3 Lthumb, 4 Rindex, 5 Rthumb, 6 Rmiddle, 7 Rpinky

going to S Lpinky, 1Lthumb, 2 Lindex, 3 Rthumb, 5 Rmiddle whenever you scratch

Or you could just 1048 + wrist and enjoy carpal tunnel.

>>14592766
>Pop'n on my upside down FP7.
but you're still missing two buttons, how do you play pop'n with an FP7?

>>14592914
>wrists
>implying he's not using start and vefx with his wrists

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>>14592826
>>14592826
Never tried using my Lmiddle for key 1 but I could see it working if you bend it a little. I'll try to get used to it just in case.

How do you call those chords (Denim chords?)
I always choke them up.
I know I need to spread them out.
Maybe practicing while the song loads will help, it worked for stairs at least.

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>>14592826
lmiddle key1 always seemed awkward to me.

Then again I use my thumb for both key 1 and 2 so I guess I can't talk.

>>14592955
>3y3s normal ending
chord scales though this is a bit slow to be called scales.

Denim is dog shit like pic related.

>>14592955
>>14593013
Just mash these patterns in the 5 seconds before the song starts, doing scales, chord scales, and rolling between 1357 and 246.

Helps with warming up and builds a bit of muscle memory.

>>14593023
I practice trills on different buttons during the startup.

I just don't like denim rolls no matter how often they show up

>>14593013
I meant to write I use thumb for both key 1 and 3.

When was the last time we did handshot .webms? Show me your best handshots.

>>14593031
>thumb for both key 1 and 3

funny, i was just wondering if that was a common thing or if it was just some crazy japanese guy on youtube with a weird playstyle.

seems to work pretty well for him though.

>>14593326
In the relatively short amount of time I played on controller (like, level 10-ish), I also flailed my thumb to hit both 1 and 3. For whatever reason it felt more comfortable to do that than try moving my right hand. Probably because the left hand was already moving at that point anyway. The only problem is that shit like 1-3 chords are pretty annoying to do, since you need to stretch your thumb to hit both buttons.

>>14593363
S13 chords are usually when I bring my right thumb over.

What's the easiest to build hard DDR pad?

>>14593363
I have big crooked hands

scratch1+3 hasn't been a problem so far in the 11s and I just got a AA-6(soon) on 取り残された美術 and that song just has tons of S1+3 + other notes.

One habit I think if you do thumbs for both 1 and 3 that you should avoid is sliding your thumb instead of actually trying to hit the note. I do this all the time and my timing on said parts always go to shit (even worse I slide with my right hand as well).

>>14593363
>>14593375
What about S135 or even S1357?
I bring my thumb over for S13, but for the other two I have to smash my thumb into 1 and 3

>>14593664
S135 is

S Lpinky, 1 Lthumb, 3 Rthumb, 5 Rmiddle

Ditto for S1357, as the Rpinky doesn't move.

Dirty of Loudness's S1234567 adds

2 Lindex, 4 Rindex, and 6 Rring, which is the only time I use my right ring finger because it's hard to use your middle and ring ringers independently.

>>14593402
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aE88SHLHwU
old video but not outdated.

I don't understand how people can play iidx. I own a controller and can only pass 5s with Cs.

>>14593828
don't worry I was in that position about 6 month ago

now i can only pass 7's with Bs

>>14593326
I use thumb to press both 1 and 3 at the same time on S13 patterns

>>14593828
Practice, took me 3 months to get from 3s to 11s

>>14594073
bullshit

that tfw console shitters shitting up bemani videos

>>14594073
that seems ridiculously fast unless you play like 8 hours every day or had prior experience with some other similar game

>>14594240
which videos?

>>14594254
Honestly I believe everything at this point because there's a guy who got Kaidan in 10 months which is still unfathomable to me.

>>14594258
beatstream 2 songs by konmai
on that topic i'm pretty impressed that they uploaded some of the songs themselves

>>14594259
https://my.mixtape.moe/nxxyvs.mp4
this girl started in lincle and got kaiden in lincle, at age 15

code:1 is overrated as shit

>>14590259
no

>>14594804
prove him wrong bitchtits

Is there a IIDX Empress theme/soundset out there for LR2, can't find one.

>>14594105
>>14594254
I was already clearing 11s with keyboard when i started, spent a couple of hours figuring a play style that i found comfortable and played every day for around 3 hours.

if you turn off the bga on Love & Justice you are confirmed for having no soul

How do I make the sanwas in my ASC sound as nice as they do in the arcade?

>>14595988
Get a bunch of games and pop music running in the background, invite 60 people to your house and make the inside of your ASC a replica of the inside of the arcade cabinet.

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>>14584380
http://pastebin.com/pvjT0XYK
>>14595288
https://mega.nz/#F!ZgtlTSLS!83yAnyl9nBUekvyp7LW85w

>>14596114
Osu! a shit.

>>14595481
Oh yeah, that would explain it. If you can play decently on keyboard, learning controller is easier since you already know how to read patterns.

>>14596114
osu a shit

>>14596114
Osu! a shit.

>>14596114
Osu! a shit.

>>14590125
>Dave and Busters getting DDR2014 in over half of their locations
Source?

>>14596114
Osu a shit

>>14596965
They officially announced it, it's also on Reddit where they did a Q&A.

How big are the timing windows on O2jam?

>>14597430
depends on the scroll speed or something stupid like that

>>14597708
they are beat based windows, so not exactly

>>14597715
So it'd dependent on the speed of the song?

Is it harder to play with longer nails?

>>14597855
only if they're long enough to hit the button before the rest of your finger

>>14597855
Not really, it can make it a lot less comfortable though

>>14597835
depends on the BPM of the song, and slides if BPM changes.

>>14597855
Yes. Your fingers are heavier and the nails slide on the buttons

http://webmshare.com/play/997Vy

;^)