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>>14542958
Thats what you get for thoughtlessly throwing his babies around instead of eating them like an actual human being.

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>>14542958
I just started a new char and the ID wizard at vernis has cursed gear that summons monsters. This has been getting me splatted to hell and back, but the last wave spawned in a fire hound, which proceeded to burn the town to the ground. This had the effect of torching the cursed gear that caused all of this, and as a consolation prize, I now have cards and figures for all the uniques in town as well as pic related.

And now I'm off to the forest to dig out clovers and grind for materials to make shoes edible.

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>>14543038
You better use that sword.

Also my new mutant char just rolled her third head. The fuck all I want are feet.

Are there any real reasons for not wanting weather in the home?
Why should it be any different than cities?
Rain/snow is comfy as hell.

>>14543072
Well there's etherwind. About the only weather thats actually a threat.

>>14543086
You should have a shelter in your house anyways! Cheap and common.

>>14542958
>Guess who's fucking dead.

These threads?

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What

>>14543066
Savescumming is a thing you know

>>14543546
Oops, I noticed I put the wrong attribution for the armor descriptions. Actually it's the same as weapons, but it should just be "Equipment" rather than weapons I suppose.

Oh, and to the person asking about weather in the home: sorry, but not likely to happen. If the graphics and effects can be separated, maybe, but honestly I don't think I'll get around to even looking into it.

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>>14543546
Oh shit the snippets are in !
>>14543562
I won't thank you because thanking people that deserving to be thanked is bad because it can develop circlejerking and even worse discourage the recipient of the thanking to continue whatever they did that made them deserving to be thanked.

Again, to be clear, i do not thank you, and will not thank you for your work. You are doing awesome work that we waited for for literal years, but i will not thank you.

is elona custom worth it? pastebin says 1.52 should've happened two weeks ago, should I install 1.51?

>>14543631
There were a total of three Custom builds put out for 1.52, anon.

But Elona+ 1.53 is out now. I'll put out a custom build for it on Friday.

>>14543679
alright then, guess I'll wait till Friday

I finally have gene engineering in the double digits. Anyone know any non-standard NPC I could ally/waifu/husbando up to get humanoid parts? Cattle/Minotaurs seem like a decent start once I start finding some.

>>14542958
Always carry a rod of teleportation

>>14543679
1.53 is out? Does anyone know if it fixes the crashes that folks were reporting with 1.52?

How frequent are new Elona versions?

>>14544142
[Fixes]

A bad parameter for a temporary institution around Yowyn was causing the game to crash, so this has been fixed. If the land had shifted already when you played in 1.52, the facilities would already be gone and this error wouldn't happen. A land shift is guaranteed to happen upon updating to 1.53.

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>>14543546
What

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>>14544733
WHAT

>>14543091
I'd rather not, time flows normally in houses so you can do stuff and read books while waiting.

>>14544916
I just want rain in my home anon, why do you do this to me

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Elona+ 1.53
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:19589

>Added a higher-tier of the "Restrained" condition, called "Immobile".
>Shadow Step and Teleportation are rendered ineffective while in this state.

>>14544997
it's a bad idea desu. from a roleplay perspective, I don't like that I'm Wet even though I'm nice and snug in my house.

>>14543608
Literal autism.
I personally don't care about unwritten """rules""". Thank you anna!

>>14545035
I just really enjoy the sound of rain.
Being wet while being inside any building is unreal to begin with, but that's just a game mechanic you can't do anything about.
From a roleplay perspective it should bother you that your house alone doesn't get rain or snow for whatever reason!

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>>14545060
Magic. Barrier magic.

>>14545060
what about etherwind? I have a fricking palace, I don't have to hide in a hole in the ground.

my house doesn't have weather effects because it's got a roof on it. and magic wards and shit.

>>14545092
Then just make your hole palace-like.
You literally just jump in, rest once or twice and you're out, once every few months, it's really not that big of an issue.

>>14545109
Rather than him making amendments trying to fit your shitty weather-in-base scenario. Why don't you just live in Vernis itself? Theres a hole in the graveyard you could chuck your items in. I mean, a base is just a place you just rest in once or twice right? Forget about all those vendors and item management and visitors and shit right?

>>14545060
The sound of rain scares me. I hide under the bed fearing lightning hounds will bully me. Also, bad people visit when it rains. So called adventurers show up at my door, force me to drink, and they vomit all over my place. They leave without cleaning it up! Rude!

>>14545128
So you're basically telling me to make amendments to fit your shitty, senseless no-weather-in-base scenario, dully noted.

>>14545139
I think they'll do that anyways anon! At least if they set your house on fire, rain will put it out :^)

>>14545154
Its those halloween pricks that sets your house on fire though.

>>14545160
if you piss off some adventurers bad enough they'll come to your house to throw molotovs too.

>>14545179
Really? Damn. How do you permanently wipe out an adventurer from existence? I need the info asap.

>>14545188
you can keep beating them up until they decide to leave permanently.

or you butter them up until they think they're your friends. and then you ask them to become your pets. and then you lock them in your sex dungeon.

>>14544018
Anon, you could have just captured yeeks from puppy cave if you wanted humanoid limbs.

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Some sprite sheets if anyone's interested:

Ugly Monster themed sheet

http://a.pomf.hummingbird.moe/syiydf.bmp

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>>14545962

Waifu themed sheet

http://a.pomf.hummingbird.moe/dntalc.bmp

>>14545962
Etrian Odyssey sprites are olev as fuck.

>>14544837

the nuclear dead lion is an atom bomb you can eat

How would speed running work in Elona? Allowing gene files and extra races.

>>14546226
If you allow gene files then you can probably beat the game level 1 or something.

>>14546226
>>14546248
Two bell of termination balls, rubynus gear for them, fire resist gear for you should be all that is needed to rush zeome.

Blessed potions of descent and of cure jure can't hurt, too.

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Can I not get feet as a mutant or am I just really unlucky?

>>14546307
I know some people are against any form of savescumming, but bodyparts of mutants is a really excusable one in my book.

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>>14545549
>Gene machine the starter little girl with a horse to train up gene engineering
>Gains extra set of legs from the horse
>I have created a little girltaur

I feel dirty now

>>14546492
Be more careful next time and read what the pets will gain

what monster give control magic skill in gene engineering?

>>14546492
>using your starter little girl
You should be grinding on slaves

>>14546248
>>14546276
After watching this speedrun (http://www.speedrun.com/Elona_-_The_Eternal_League_of_Nefia#Anything_goes1), which was about an hour, I've come up with this plan for speedrunning:

Game settings
Set running after to 1 steps, walk speed to 1 wait, and attack interval to 1 wait

Gene file
Monster balls containing allies of your choice. At least one ally should be good for riding
Gear for you. Should boost your HP, protect from curses, protect from thieves, keep you from being stranded, and increase traveling speed.
Gear for pets
Deeds of heirship
Blue capsule drags
50+ blessed potions of descent
Potions of cure corruption
Potions of healer (Jure)
50 scrolls of return
Blessed scrolls of vanish curse
Scrolls of holy light
Lots of hero cheese
Rations
Cursed food
Happy bed
Cold proof and fire proof blankets

Char gen
Race: Something tanky
Class: Warrior
Feats: Ascetic, Kokou, Long distance runner

Guide
1. Quaff all of your potions of descent. Eat hero cheese. Eat cursed food to vomit to get hungry. Get additional feats if desired.
2. Go to the embassy to buy a deed of heirship and deed of shack. Place the shack right above Palmia. Use the deed of heirship to get your other deeds of heirship. Read the deeds of heirship to get everything listed above.
3. Go to your shack and get your items. Use the monster balls. Leave happy bed.
4. Go to Yowyn and learn Detection and Riding from the trainer. Use your skill points to raise detection and riding.
5. Proceed with main quest as normal. Read scrolls of return to quickly get home. Sleep in happy bed or king's bed in Palmia. Equip useful precious items dropped by bosses (Rankis, etc.).

Detection is incredibly important for seeing the hidden passages in dungeons. Without Detection, you are forced to mine, which is extremely slow. The blessed potions of descent give you the skill points to level up Detection. Riding lets you keep up with your pets but is optional. Coupled with hero cheese, the potions of descent also make you very tanky and keep you from wasting time dying. You could consider bringing teleport scrolls and reading them to find the stairs in the dungeons quicker, but this separates you from your pets.

I believe it's possible to beat the game in sub 30 minutes with this strategy. Anyone have suggestions?

>>14546565
I thought deeds couldn't be inherited through a gene file? Unless this was changed recently.

>>14546574
Woops. You're right. What about wishing for a deed of shack using a rod of wishing? The wiki doesn't say deeds of shacks can't be wished. http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Wishing

>>14546574
Oh, I misunderstood what you said. I guess the player has to buy the deed of heirship normally. The player really only needs enough deeds to get the potions of descent and monster balls; the rest is icing on the cake.

>>14546565
>http://www.speedrun.com/Elona_-_The_Eternal_League_of_Nefia#Anything_goes1

>this guy
>using the wheel even when he's this far into the game

>putting sonic the hedgehog in your spritesheets
what is this, fucking reddit?

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Finally befriended this Fron as my token Martial Artist. Is it a bug that the god recruiting penalty did not apply to her?

>>14546565
You should use turn count instead of real time for a game that is completely turn based.

>>14546565
You could use teleportation instead of detection, as detection is still kinda time consuming and chancy when you dont have a high level of it. Dimensional move, short teleport, or teleport, or rods, which are pretty abundant.

I think you can skip alot of the hero cheese, and instead run a piece of gear with alot of constitution artifact fusioned onto it, same goes for speed. in fact artifact fusion everything and use living weapons

>>14546565
Blue capsule and hero cheese are precious.

>>14546492
Little do monsterfags know elona+ is the ultimate monstergirl gaimu. Good thing they stay on that toxic thread and never come out.

>>14545038
>literal experience

Fixed.

>>14546820
Woop didnt realize that you mentioned teleports. Honestly i think its easier to play without pets cuz the AI is pretty hurrdurr. You can leash them and just spend maybe 2-3 turns and they'll rubber band to you.

I warned you

>>14546565
it's not really a speedrun if you're relying on passing on gear from another character that can have hundreds of hours on it.

do a lvl 1 snail tourist speedrun, no inheriting, FINAL DESTINATION.

>>14546873
If anything, I was one of the only that questioned some of the things being done, or their priority, not that you would take it from me. I'm not a single-minded sheep like you, I'm not part of a hivemind, and I'm free to express and believe whatever I want. but nice try.

>>14547172
Anon, I don't think running a snail tourist with no gene file should be called a speed run.

>>14547270
A challenge run maybe, but other than that he has a point.

>>14547227
Holy crackers, the amount of edge in this post!

>>14546867
Is it possible to make a custom playable race? Like lamia or slimegirl complete with racial feats.

>>14547436
Just for you anon

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Help. I want to buy a fucking horse, but I don't see the option.

>>14548370
Given how low your charisma is, it's highly likely your party is full.

Get it to 15 and try again.

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>>14548059
I don't think so, as far as I know. Unless of course you can mod it yourself.
>>14548370
Its probably what the anon said. 1 new ally per 10 charisma or something. Better start training performer.

>>14545962
>>14545970
I wish you'd use matching art styles for the eight gods. It's really jarring looking at them side by side.

>>14545970
Is this any different from the monster girl sheet thats on pastebin? Only thing I dislike is fucken sanic.

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>>14550149
Just replace the sprite you dislike with what ever you want man.

>>14550149
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Custom_NPC_sprite

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>>14550091
Ok, I tried finding the best ones I could with similar styles and heights, I just cant find too many of Yacatect though.

>>14550149
Yeah, I wanted to make as many of the monsters into girls as possible but just couldn't find any more sprites to swap over with. So now I've started searching on some Japanese blogs. Oh, and I killed sanic, alright? He was just a placeholder until I find better replacement anyway.

http://a.pomf.hummingbird.moe/iqsrja.bmp

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>>14550571
http://a.pomf.hummingbird.moe/bkcbcp.bmp

>>14550571
Default Yacatect sprite is already great anyway.
We're still severely lacking Yacatect fanarts though

>>14550571
You're doing god's work, son.

is game online? what is this

>>14550743
You shut your whore mouth Yacatect. The only reason why you weren't brought into the god argument is because you were an obvious nonfactor noncontender in the argument. Anyhow, best deity is Eyth if it even exists. If he doesn't Itzpalt is a VERY distant second at best.

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>>14550799
Fedoramad

>>14550743
>can mecanize your b-
M A N I
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>>14550743
Last time I walked into Derphy I thought I was in a shrine dedicated to Yacatect. Aids infested prostitutes stringing me out for money, den of thieves fleecing people for gold, and rigged gambling games to assure people go into debt. Yacatect surely must bless that place. Since I don't approve of Derphy I don't approve of Yacatect. Burn that city to the ground Itzpalt!

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>>14550900
Yacatect doesn't have a shrine in Derphy. She does have a shrine in the underground casino of Melkawn though, which is much more classier.

>>14550827
Just look at how smug she is. Bet she's already sizing you up to see how much money she can get out of selling your organs on the black market when you die.

>>14551004
Don't you badmouth Big Sister Yacatect, heathen.

Why is throwing such a shitty skill compared to every other skill?

>>14551285
>Not using panties/sox/'nades
Outside of those you have a point, since throwing isn't really meant for pure damage but for effects.

>>14551285
Atleast it isn't martial arts.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Kill_Kill_Piano

>>14551075
I'm doing this for your own good anon. Please don't associate with this bad woman. Especially since she has a name that sounds like the sound she'd make as a cock hits the back of her throat. She just wants you for your gold anon! Woman like that can bring a man to ruin.

>>14550149
yeah I can't believe we have fucking sonic in the spritesheet, I need to get around to changing that too.

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Thank you based Ehekatl

Had to make a few quick fixes, like cleaning up a black rectangle on the giant and other shit. Also added some extra sprites.

http://a.pomf.hummingbird.moe/ssjonr.bmp

http://a.pomf.hummingbird.moe/fshbmg.bmp

Is there a way I can make myself sleepy? Sometimes when I'm grinding stats, sleep status doesn't hit till after midnight which sucks.

>>14556126
Pick up lot of goods, go on world map, hit rest until sleepy.

>>14542958
I just had a crash on the newest version, and when I reloaded the save, everything was wiped but the character. All the maps were reverted, including my home and storage. Any idea what happened or how I can restore everything? I lost everything I wasn't carrying on my person.

>>14556126
I don't know what statistics in the game actually causes the sleepy state to occur, but I think it may be related to stamina. As I noticed on my game the more actions I used that burnt through the most stamina (e.g. ensemble, houzanha, sex) rendering my character tired or very tired more often, than resting up until full, would usually cause the sleepy state to occur more frequently.

>>14556521
Tired status reduce speed, sleepy status happen after ingame hours so low speed means more sleep time as hours pass more quickly, in opposition to starving that is tied to turns spent and so more speed mean needing more food as hours pass more slowly.

>>14556337
Try using a data recovery software like recuva?

>>14556536
Ah, now that makes more sense. For just a couple of times I've been making myself purposely tired for the hungry ghost trick, and of course that would speed up time allowing most my food to rot like an idiot. But just couldn't tie in to it actually being from how much time had passed rather than how much stamina was being spent that caused the 'need sleep!' state to occur more.

So I guess if you want more sleeping chances you'd best hit the Deep-sea castle then.

>>14556877
Nope! You don't get sleepy in the deep-sea castle. Items with a cooldown get frozen at their max time, whether or not they're in your inventory. I don't know if the ranches and farms get nuked. The castle might still be good for resetting the wish counter.

>>14556916
Yacatet's gem still works and that's how I farmed platinum until I realized how inefficient it was.

>>14556337
This is why you make backups of software in ongoing development.

How do I inmprove my hit chance? It's hardly changed since the start of the game.

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>>14556916
Damn, they just keep nerfin stuff, huh? Just when I was about to take all my statues too. So screw that. I still got my fairies, and I'll just keep exploiting their use until they take the bite out of that next.

How do I have fun?

Currently in end-game and besides trying to kill a god I don't have any other goals, what have you guys been up to?

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>>14557021
Please do not abuse the fairies. They are very sensitive.

>>14557051
Agreed. People need to read "Ethical Gardening" by Kumiromi and "My master forces substance abuse on me because he loves me." by Twinkles.

>>14557017
Increase your weapon skills like long swords, polearm, blunt, firearm, etc.

>>14557047
Collecting stuff to furnish home, instead of starting a new character I'm raising a pet to do what my new character would of done, doing the story, playing blackjack because I like blackjack, farming all sorts of things, grinding.

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>>14557047
Time to finally record the life story of your character from start when Lomias tricked you into eating a beggar's corpse and up to whatever your character is now.

Everything has an end, perhaps its time to just move on.

>>14557047
>>14557223
Or maybe even time to start again

>>14557235
I dunno. I'd opt for the lifestory writing since it would seem fun at that time.

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>>14557051
Nah, bards and beggars are for abusing. The fairies I just take for a little stroll around the wilderness, then feed them all the bread I hoarded up from the entirety of Tyris once they get hungry. Since their not strong enough yet for forced vomiting anyway.

>>14557047
Build your castle/palace up til it looks even more majestic than Palmia. Right now I'm trying to build a monument honoring the gods by arranging all the god statues in some sort of pyramid setup, but I'm still missing that damn Ehekatl for some reason.

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No
NO

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>>14557509

>>14557312
>>14557051

Mine is force-fed on a diet of cursed alcohol and rotten fish. But I do it with LOVE.

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>>14557793
Please consider their feelings.

>>14557509
fireworks are fitting for the season, you should have known better anon

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How come no one ever told me your pet's health bar changes color when it's hungry? This would have been very useful knowledge. I still have a hard time telling the difference because i'm colorblind

>>14560564
That's because we thought you'd figure it out eventually anon. good job.

A lot of people talk about "early-game" and "late-game" - when would you consider a character to be in late-game or mid-game?

How does this sound:
All skills learned = mid-game reached
7 vendors at home with 100+ invest = late-game
Strong enough to take on inner gods = end-game

>>14561354
How about just
early-game = north tyris access
mid-game = south tyris access
end-game = lost irva access

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Is there a quicker way for raising Kumi's favor other than waiting for veggies to grow?

>>14561354
The problem I have with this list is that I had 5 vendors in my home all invested over 100 before I even crossed over to South Tyris. I certainly wouldn't peg myself as being end game at this point.

>>14561365
I like this more but I'd either add post game to this list where one is killing inner gods or just lump south tyris and lost irva into mid game and just call killing inner gods end game.

The problem I have with both lists in general is how you account for the chaos fort bosses. Those guys are usually harder than the story bosses for their portion of the world. Then you take the gods and they're much much harder than anything the story or the chaos forts have. The list also needs to answer whether this is for people just doing the story or is the list a completionist list where you conquer everything. Also, how do we account for the void? Is there a bottom floor to that place or does it truly go on forever? If it does go on forever wouldn't the things in there eventually become even more scarier than the gods themselves?

>>14561567
Veggies are just his favorite stuff. Corpses, while not his favorite, will help and due to how plentiful they are, should help you reach your goals quick if you mix them with veggies.

>>14561567
You can pickpocket some veggies in Yowyn.

>>14561567
Edible plants out in the roads are infinite and you can collect them for quick favor if you have enough sanity points. That's the most grindiest way if you really need to use it.

>>14561572
In terms of raw stats, yea they are kinda scary, but they tend to max out after a certain point, at 2000 to all stats. And they generally don't have any abilities that destroy you quite like some of the inner gods. That being said, I guess there kind of is an upper limit to how difficult the game can get.

>>14561567
Do a bunch of quests in Palmia that have a separate city map, like Panic! or Challenge Quests
There should be an empty altar to convert every quest, will get you like four times or so the piety points. Then use heavy corpses, the heavier they are, the more points you get. Keep them in your 4th-dimension storage space as you collect them (or ice cooler). Big Daddy, Dragon, Tyrannosaurus, etc. corpses are all great. Especially Cloud Monsters that have 100 pt weight.

>>14561637
Base favor cap for corpses caps at 10lbs->50pts. Any higher just makes it more difficult to store in a pocket.

>>14561773
It does? Damn
My 4th dimensional pocket spell is very high though, so I can fill it with super heavy stuff

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>>14561773
>>14561637
Huh. Seems like I need more fame after I read about that method in the wiki. Guess its time to buy 6 more farms and surround Palmia with it till I get the right fame.

>>14561972
just burden yourself with cargo and walk back and forth between palmia and noyel. arrive in town, sacrifice, burn altar, switch to other town, repeat

Did Anna release 1.53 Custom yet?

>>14562305
Yes.

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>>14562387
37 hours ago. Nice, thanks banana if you're lurking this thread.

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3114/333 INI...well I guess this is what I get considering catgirls are hard to train and now I have the audacity to train the goddess of catgirls. I have my work cut out for me but first order of business, what do I do with her eggs and milk? Too bad I can't auction them off to some Ehekatl otaku.

>>14562493
I-is that OC? My God anon

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>>14562501
The goddess picture isn't mine. It's Elona artwork I pulled off of pixiv.

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>>14562540
Finally somebody made a good looking Big Sis Yacatect fanart.

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>>14562622
Here, have this then.

> A <hungry sea lion> Lv.572 loots your backpack
> A <hungry sea lion> Lv.572 chokes on mochi!
Itadakimasu motherfucker.

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>>14562797

>>14562797
Now I wonder if you can kill strong bosses by throwing mochi at them.

>>14562822
I don't think there are any other mobs who would eat food during a fight other than the sea lion faggot.

>>14562822
You can't throw food.

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>>14562387
>>14562392
Can I get links gentlemen? I am new and currently playing regular Elona+

Teleport mutation is suffering.

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>>14562828
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:AnnaBannana/Elona_Custom

>>14562837
Thank you my friend.

>>14562540
Why is Kumiromi so feminine looking? Damn it he's a guy.

>>14562841
>Kumiromi only male god to crossdress
>canonically insane
I guess Elona couldn't be fantasy everywhere, it had to be realistic somewhere.

>>14562826
You forgot about behemoth, ungoliant, talpidae and such.

>>14562841
I fed him forbidden meat, and now it isn't a problem for me.

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how do you get the healing rain spell? ive already read the spellbook and i cant find it anywhere on my spell list

>>14563465
I bet you read a spellbook of holy rain, didn't you?

>>14563805
oh fuck it is, whats the spellbook for healing rain?

Chat server is dying soon. Sad times.
I hope someone can come up with a solution.

what race and class are you guys playing?
i just started with Juere-Pianist

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>>14562841
Yeah, I don't know anon. He seems to have always had this problem with being depicted as a girl. Even players occasionally are surprised to learn it's a guy. Considering each of the gods has an obvious quirk about them I guess that's his. As a bonus, he's also a latent yandere but that's not evident until you leave his faith or get him to inner god form.

>>14564087
I'm playing a Eulderna-Gunner. In the past I played Juere-Pianist. I found it a good combo to get to learn how to play and survive in Elona. Performance brought in the money and being a Juere I didn't starve as much and in the meantime got to learn about ways to keep myself fed.

>>14563960
Yeah, everyone should just chat here instead of the official server.

>>14563935
The book is called healing rain and it's the same for reserving it at the mages guild. If you have the spell it should show up in your spell list before healing touch.

Would the goose make a good shopkeeper?

It doesn't really shit out nearly enough platinum to justify keeping it around.

>>14564677
If it has negotiation and decent potentials, any pet works.

>>14564087
Elea because they start with decent magic skills so I can start using spells as soon as possible even though I picked Claymore as starting class.

I would play Fairy but I'm scared.

>>14564087
Golem thief

Speed isn't an issue if you stay away from combat and rely on pets early, and thief is for the sweet crits you get from being undetected. Works well if you're mainly ranged.

>>14564706
>>14564677
Use a Catsister and make her say "Nyo!" all the time

>>14564843
>>14564087

Fairy so far is good for me. I recently hit South Tyris.
I started out as a pianist so I had to rely on pets while I would grind farming and performance. But then I changed class and now magic dart is fun.
The new AI system it's a bless for me.

I just got back into Elona again. Can someone explain to me this teaching ability and skills thing in the tactics for pets?

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didn't even know this could happen

>>14565112
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:AnnaBannana/New_Features_in_Elona_Custom_1.51.4

>>14563960
Is it? Damn I know I hardly use it other than to rant and bitch about shit happening in game but its kinda sad not being able to see Knight White Zyklon Ben dying of starvation in North Tyris.

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>>14564677
Mutant. I was gonna go for non-save scum mutant and got a back and a head early on but decided to just fuck it and roll for hands and other necessities.

Planning to sketch out how she would look like after beating North Tyris.

>>14565397
Holykek

What's your summon spirit skill level?

>>14565410
That isn't mine.

>>14565406
>Planning to sketch out how she would look like after beating North Tyris.
What happened to the jaypee that was going to do a comic based on their character

>>14543072
I just want snowy tiles to make the crunch crunch sound like they do outside.

>>14565174
Mine dog pet?

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What's the best way to increase my karma that doesn't involve shitting money all over a nun or letting myself die to guards/rot in jail repeatedly?

>>14565369
Can anyone provide an example of a melee AI using this new feature?

>>14565523
Afaik if you don't wanna bribe the nun, your best bet is finding bodies and burying them. Might take a while.

>>14565523
Repeatedly killing citizens in party time quests for lost bags/suit cases and then giving them to guards.

Or reviving neutral npcs after killing them if your casting level is high enough.

>>14565531
Oh never mind finally figured it out I'm a fucking retard.

Was less complicated than I thought.

>>14564087
A farmer who is throwing panties at people who has 50 charisma worth of pets blocking him

I can't seem to find a good grenade, but I'm thinking of switching weapons to grind

>>14564087
Golem Hunter. Slow start, but not bad once you get out of it.

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>>14564087
Fairy wizard

>>14565893
How do you deal with the equipment penalty? I've always thought fairies are the worst race to play as, even worse than snails because atleast snails can equip heavier stuff.

i just started a new pianist and my pet died instantly i don't even know how lmao. am i fucked?

>>14565961
fountain are your pet's worst enemy

>>14565961
Just talk to a bartender in town to call back/revive your pet. Get used to your pet dying on you unless you gear it up and take care of it.

>>14565996
Or you know. Whack them with the whip like any sane, rational man would do.

>>14565979
yeah i think i was near a fountain at that time lol
>>14565996
i will try that!

>>14566011
I'm having a hard time increasing morale when I do that. I keep telling them the floggings will continue until morale improves but I'm just not getting through to them.

>>14564576
That's not as fun as seeing people die and bitch about it honestly, or people wishing for really stupid, useless things.

>>14565996
Best way to keep pets alive other than give them +10 gear and hope for the best?

My little girl is falling behind and I'm still looking for more monster balls

>>14565959
It's not like you can't just use scrolls to make everything wearable, they're more than strong enough early game to make up for not being a snail in every way, and in some ways other races.

>>14565959
...How is having 2-3 slots worse than having full slots, regardless of what weight you can equip? It's not.

>>14566095
>>14565959


Snails are better than normal races since you can give yourself hands and become a death machine by equipping as many weapons as you can.

>>14564087
Juere monk.

Fists + throwing = OP

Also, if you ever get <Nightmare>, you're basically set as far as throwing weapons go. Stopping time is so damn useful and it's saved my ass SO many times.

>>14566069
The +10 gear will help but also keep an eye for stuff that has resists as it's probably magic and elemental attacks that will kill her often later. If you find stronger stuff for your character consider giving your pet the hand me downs. The god reward weapons are good for pets They provide decent damage and also provide some resists. If you're not doing so already, leash your pets so they don't travel too far off and get themselves killed. Also, get a way to heal your pet either through first aid kits, healing rain spell, or whatever.

>>14566085
>>14566095
Maybe I'm just being a bitch, I know fairies are great mages but I can't deal with the fact that they can't carry shit. Also I've heard something about artifacts not allowed to change materials or something.

>>14566114
Theres an npc in south tyris which attach limbs. Doesn't matter which race you are.

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>>14566148
>Juere monk
I feel sorry for you.

What does literacy and memorization do for pets? I just got reading party skill and my pet's mentioned skills keep getting higher and higher.

>>14565959
Beginning game they're awesome, mid game they're meh as they'll be having to shelve a lot of goodies they find(probably depressing for them), but by end game they're just as good as any race since they probably have been stocking up on flying scrolls and have the means to get more. They just use those scrolls to lighten everything and wear anything they want. Also, if a fairy chooses to go down the wizard path they really don't need much in the way of gear as spells can carry them pretty far. If all else fails, a fairy can hide behind his/her big burly pet until the bully leaves or is a blood smear on the wall.

>>14566298
AFAIK not much of anything.

>>14566166
You're not allowed to change artifact material with scrolls and kits, flying scrolls work just fine on anything from beds to god treasures to artifacts.

>>14565523
Giving cure corruptions to Pael's mom is the fastest (real time and game time), cheapest, easiest way to raise karma.

>>14566069
Give your pets pickpocket and run dungeons, their stats will skyrocket.

>>14566298
it improves reading party, pretty much. Trains stats, too.

>>14565893
Our characters are of similar level and build, so I'm having a lot of fun comparing stats.

>90 PV with just 4.0s of equipment
Did you +5 all your equipment or something?

Cute tabs, by the way.

>>14565961
Did your pet fall into a well after drinking from it? Give it wings or equipment that floats you.

>>14564087
Fairy warmage, started a claymore because i like the starting stas/skills. I use a gun for offense and magic for buffs/debuffs.....basically everything except attack.

First character that's held my interest long enough to beat Zeome.

Speaking of which, is South Tyris basically a place to visit rather than move to? I'm not really seeing much there except quests and the AP dude.

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>>14566654
You don't need to move your homebase to south tyris since you can get the maid mansion in south tyris.

Also I just realized Shadow Rush requires 50 gauge to use. THIS SUCKS MAN

>>14566686
Why do I even need the maid mansion when my old house is one return spell away?

>>14566694
Its a maid mansion. MAID. Mansion. Why wouldn't you take it if it means you get to keep 2 houses.

>>14566694
Also, it's technically two returns away. The three worlds aren't connected via return, you have to teleport to the north/south border, change continents, and then teleport again.

>>14566701
Beause I already have a waifu and two houses is one more than I need.

>>14566715
Well that's weird. I can't cast return at all from south tyris currently, but I returned home to dump stuff yesterday with a full location list. Well I guess that's a reason to buy the mansion. A rather annoying one.

>>14566728
Did you actually enter the border from south Tyris' side? It doesn't get added until you do. Also the only locations for return in ST are the border, remhido, the ancient garden (mostly for Irva traveling) and the mansion.
And the mansion costs 2M, iirc.
Otherwise something might have fucked up, someone else in the thread reported problems and losing everything for no reason.

>>14566756
I haven't been back to the border since I arrived in south tyris, no. The Return spell menu was the one I expect from north tyris.

Guess I need to walk back to the border. and probably cross it because there's not much reason to be here currently.

>>14566166
>Theres an npc in south tyris which attach limbs. Doesn't matter which race you are.

Having more than 13 limbs of any kind reduces your speed by a certain percentage.

>>14566767
Curious. It's possible that if you haven't visited a return location from ST it brings up NT list. Never actually tried that so no idea.
At any rate, keep that in mind, barring other unusual behavior like that you can only return to NT locations from NT, ST from ST, and Irva from Irva, you're forced to change continent via caravan/gavela's prototype/Norne.

>>14566801
It's not like the jobs or dungeons are any different from north tyris. I'll just mosey on down here to spend AP and do the quests later.

I'm going home.

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After you get far enough in the story you get a shortcut to Lost Irva through Norne when he sets up shop in Larna.

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>>14566625
Here's my equipment screen if you're curious. And thanks, it's the little girl UI from the pastebin.

Are you the fairy warmage from the other thread?

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So wait once the chat servers die we won't see stuff other people are dying to?

>>14567275
Unless Elona+ is running its own servers separate from regular Elona's server then yes, chat, death, and wish messages will be gone. Having said that, I also wish we had are own servers for moongates. Also later down the line, I hope we have something for the card game if it ever gets implemented.

>>14567419
Pray to Anna

>>14566866
Those are some impressive stats mate.

>>14567419
Jdstroy was talking about solutions, and he's been working with Elona's source ever since Noa dropped it.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:19535

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>>14567525
Hopefully he succeeds. It would be really sad knowing you won't see death messages of other people while playing.

Any idea what the camera does?

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>>14567476
Thanks. The people in the previous thread had pretty impressive stats too especially that grind god danger zone. I've been putting off grinding normal attributes and dungeon diving and have instead been focusing on growing out my mana attribute. All I've been doing is gardening, shopping for scrolls, and party quests.

For the party quests I usually kill everyone off except named NPCs for their score multipliers. When there's 10 minutes remaining for the party I create a box, spam summon spirit, then use alchemy rain with a love potion to get them added to my score. Since I summon high level spirits they add a lot to that score. I usually make 90k to 100k tickets for each party. I can earn a whole more than this if I summon a god in the mix but that's a rarity due to lack of wishes on my part. I then go to Stoke in South Tyris and trade the tickets for magic fruit.

After I cap my magic attribute I'll begin doing my life attribute. So yeah, the magic fruit is why my mp is in the millions. That and my levels have helped.

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>>14567660
Holy shit so you could summon spirits for party quest and use them as your audience? Damn this fucking game just keeps getting better and better the more I hear.

>>14567671
It's kinda creepy every time I think about what I'm doing. I go in there, start shooting up the place until the whole ball room is a red mess, then I go about my necromancy raising the spirits of all the people I've killed which I then douse in "happy gas". At party end the maids, butlers, and clean up crew get there to see dead bodies everywhere and are scared shitless. Meanwhile the VIPs are laughing up a storm saying "Best Party EVA!" and I get glowing reviews.

>>14567660
So, since Custom just lets me pick stuff up after the party, I should just go for massacre?

>>14567770
Anything dropped during the party you're going to want to swoop in and grab before the party ends. If you have a lot of speed on your character you have quite a bit of time on your hands. The reason to kill off any non named NPC is to make room for the spirits. Only thing I'm picking up after the party is my reward after I talk to the NPC that gave me the quest.

>>14567693
jajajajajajaja

>>14567770
Also to get a ton of tickets you need really high level spirits meaning you need a really high level summon spirit spell. I'm talking like lv 300ish or higher. Before this point, you're probably best off not killing anyone and performing for everyone. If you have pets ensemble is the easiest way to impress people at the party.

>>14567660
Your mana is insane lmao. That mana burst would probably instagib all the inner gods in one turn

>>14567862
This needs to happen.

>>14567870
I'd donate the wishing rods if I could. Honestly, I wish this game had some multiplayer features like trade or something, on a multiplayer server or something of the sort. A pipe dream...

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>>14564087
Had a pretty slow start as a Juere-Warrior, but doesn't come anywhere near as bad as my first Yerles-Warrior whose permanently locked up in karma hell. Was actually on the verge of quitting until I took another shot as the Juere purely for the digestion bonus. But still, shit got pretty hairy once I started dungeon diving after finishing up quests, which led to going kinda overboard on the pets for safety. And so for a large remainder of the game I maintained a miniature army of 13 pets just mangling up shit like some retarded sprite-cluster lawn mower.

>>14567881
I think the digestion bonus is useless, after early game you're going to swim in food and even if you don't will be able to eat rotten one anyway.

>>14567881
That's some amazing stats for lv 71. Shit, I'm 71 and my stats are all in the two digits. Here I am dicking around with my Diablo sword thinking I'm tough shit. I need to step up my game.

>>14567903
Even if early game was torture, I regret it now of course since I got more food than I possibly know what to do with. Cant even eat as many herbs as I'd like.

>>14567917
It's ok anon. Just have a hungry ghost nibble on you in the puppy caves and you can grind them herbs/stats. But seriously, you're doing really well on stats so that Juere thing couldn't of been that bad.

>>14567907
I wouldn't worry bout it too much, his stats are actually pretty nuts for even maybe level 200. I'm assuming he used alot of herbed herbs to get that, and primarily worked on his stats more than exp or whatnot. Also that playtime.

>>14567923
The overwhelming majority of my experience come from spell grinding, so magophobic and herbophile seems likely.

>>14567923
Pretty much, should of been a farmer instead. Yeah, yeah I know, wasted way too much time searching for furniture and training pets. Plus why is this game so damn soothing, makes ya just wanna sit around and do nothing most the time.

Picnic baskets are awesome, who cares about potions of potential when you can just easily create a bunch of baskets and train the potential of all the stats of your whole party at the same time?

I hear gene files carry over time so if you see someone with a lot of game time this could be a reason too. If this is the case I kinda wish that the timer would be reset because you technically are playing a new character.

>>14567961
Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Honestly I feel the same way. Just turn on the game and chill. Which is why if this game had like a multiplayer sort of thing it'd be the chillest thing ever.

>>14567972
Would be fun inviting /jp/sies over your house to shitpost together.

>>14567978
>yfw they NTR all your waifus with love potions and alcohol

>>14568321
I'm kokou ! I'm cuckimmune !

I'm thinking of playing this for the first time.
Any advice from seasoned anons?

>>14568789
Play snail tourist. It's easily the best class.

>>14568789
It's completely normal to die all the time at first.

>>14568789
Be careful with unidentified food.

>>14568789
Pick a character you dislike and learn the game well enough to not starve to death constantly. Then go reroll one you do like.

>>14568789
In towns you may eat from the floor and sleep in beds for free.

>>14568789
Unchain the Ice Giant in Noyel for a free wish
Wish for Seven League Boots

>>14568789
The pasta has all the tips you need, most of the people who replied are trolling so just go for that.

>>14568964
2 of 6 isn't most. But yeah, pasta.

i can't take off this bow and i keep teleporting randomly halp

>>14569243
The bow is probably cursed. Read a scroll of uncurse or go to a healer and pay for the uncursing

>>14569243
Do what >>14569252 said.

Never equip anything that's not identified.

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so this happened.

>>14570523
Don't drag your piano with you into the dungeon?

>>14570586
I'm guessing he's a pianist. Wouldn't recommend ditching your piano if you're a pianist since it pays to train weight lifting early on in the game.

>>14570595
yeah i am a pianist
my bow is doomed and i keep porting everywhere
i only have 1k gold so i can't lift up the curse

>>14570595
Recommended or not, he didn't ditch it when he had the chance and now it's ditched forever.

>>14570645
>>14570655
It doesn't matter. 3 levels is very early in the game. Would be much easier to start again with needed knowledge at hand now.

>>14570645
I'm pretty sure Lomias gives you a scroll of uncurse if you do the tutorial

>>14570678
the only thing i got from him was furniture

>>14570686
He must give you one. Part of the tutorial is him giving you a cursed piece of equipment (his bow, I believe) and the means to uncurse it.
Any chance that the problematic bow is that one and you didn't actually uncurse it in the tutorial?
I recall having a playthrough where the scroll actually failed to work and one where he gave me a cursed scroll of uncurse.
T-thanks Lomias.

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>>14570714
Nobody likes Lomias. NOBODY

>>14570645
Uncurse your stuff, then go into a dungeon. If you need money to uncurse, do delivery quests. Or perform for a bit at cyber dome while avoiding the vendors.and AP dude.

Honestly, though, I'd stay away from dungeons until about level 5 or so.

If you can, stay at Burden but not Burden! since it lowers your speed even more.

>>14570724
I like Lomias. It is a good source of miracle bows.

How do I view the potential of my speed?

>>14570793
You can't in game. Use elosnack, it will be in xxxxyyyzzz format, x and y are actual speed and decimals, z is the potential. You can also use cheatengine after finding the value through elosnack to track it while playing.

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The chat
The chat is dead now

>>14570793
You need the <glasses of yacatect> dropped by karavika (lost irva)

>>14570724
You're right. I absolutely hate Lomias with a passion. You wake up in a cave thinking that it might of been Lomias that saved you from the ship wreck but the truth is it was a cave hermit. You woke up at just the right time because if you hadn't Lomias would of made sure you joined the hermit. When you wake up he talks to you about how he's on the run and kinda makes it seem like it was he and the girl that saved you. He then proceeds to feed you the hermit to eliminate any evidence of man slaughter so the vernis inhabitants will think that the hermit died out in the wilderness or had an accident.

You see Lomias was planning to use said hermit cave as a hideout but since you're around you kind of fucked up that plan. He tries to off you with putits under the guise of a tutorial but finds that this doesn't work so he just fucks off. Lomias is an asshat and a murderer and deserves to be hung by his dick until he dies. Meanwhile the little girl is searching all over the continent for her master since you got separated in the ship wreck and had Lomias succeeded in killing you in the tutorial the little girl would be heart broken.

>>14570645
You are kind of expected to have to start over until you figure out what you're doing. Most dungeons are not going to cause you the same problem as the Puppy Cave with dropped equipment, since only a few of them have randomized floors every time you use the stairs.

Also, a piano is awfully heavy early on, so you might just want to pick up some other light instrument somewhere for now. Like this guy says >>14570757 you aren't going to want to have your speed reduced, and early combat is tough enough even unencumbered. Unless you are actually going to be playing it, you don't really need to have one at all times, but it can be tough to remember to dump stuff like that sometimes.

>>14570858
Is that what really happened? What the fuck Lomias.

>>14567660
Wait, why do you have to stand in the box before casting?

>>14571054
Not him but some of the spirits are rowdy and the box is used to prevent them from killing the named NPCs I imagine. It seems he also walled himself in so that they wouldn't attack him. Makes sense, if those spirits he's casting are high level I wouldn't want to be smacked by them. I mean they probably have high stats.

>>14570953
I heard a similar conspiracy theory on the rogue like general in /vg/ several months ago. Nobody refuted the claim but who knows if it's really true. I certainly am not far enough in the story to say either way but the theory does sound plausible. Well at least for me it does.

>>14571198
If you use the secret experience of Lomias and incarnate a new character from the gene file, you'd get beggar's pendant at the starting cave. The story goes with Lomias claiming the cave by killing the beggar residing in it, thus getting the pendant.

>>14571167
But aren't the spirits neutral? Unless you mean they start fighting when drunk?

>>14571238
Well they start out neutral but some of them will start to fight among each other due to being drunk like you said. They also may go on to attack those NPCs. Also, when you use alchemy rain you end up aggroing everything so he probably ended up aggroing all those spirits.

>>14571281
And that's why you should go incognito every time you decide to splash your love rain, but do it twice on the same person and its all over.

how do i revive an NPC? i just gave this dude a fish and he exploded, he is the one who teaches you skills in vernis

>>14571483
he's dead forever good going
now you can never learn skills again

>>14571483
A book of resurrection can revive allies and town NPCs. They're not a common find though. I think town NPCs eventually revive on their own but it will take awhile.

Where do I find kuro?

Can anyone with a kind heart and knowledgeable brain update the main quest article for Elona+?

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New anon here.
Wow, this game.

>>14571602
Please get Elona Plus or Elona Plus Custom instead.

Unless you've fully researched the differences and prefer the original for some reason.

>>14571483
Just don't go to vernis for a few ingame days (maybe weeks) and the town will reset

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>>14570827
noa why

>>14572556
No money.
Also it seemed to be implied in the post that he's still developing erin.
Cross your butthole and clench your fingers in hope he don't die before it's done.

>>14572700
I don't think anything at this point will top Elona+. Unless his sequel is actually Elona+2.

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SNAIL!

I want to make sprites and shit for elona and have zero experience or idea how to do so
Is jumping face first into it with paint.net a way to go about it?

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>>14573024

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Well, I've finally gotten around to adding the new tweak menu. Things will be a lot more customizable now, rather than just in large groups.

Incidentally, if I told you I'd implement something you wanted but to yell at me after I revamped the tweak menu, now would be a good time to yell at me. For the person who wanted the ability to have random start points for mp3 playback, that's already implemented.

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>>14573135
Oh shit its Banana. Hi Anna!

I have no words for the captcha.

>>14561567
Get enough flying scrolls to make your own portable altar. How many to use depends on your weightlifting.

Go to Yowyn, offer veggies right off the ground. Don't even need to pickpocket them.

any of you guys have any tips for pianist? i do like 0 dmg, my little girl does all the work

>>14574575
Get a ranged weapon, let the girl do all the work, and just attack from a distance while the AI go in for melee.

>>14574595
i'll buy a gun, my stone deals 1dmg lmao

Is it possible to raise Thalia's relationship points by exclusively using love potions?

>>14574667
They are currently capped at 100 (with diminishing returns, iirc), along with aphrodisiacs.

>>14574667
To do her quest you can use love potions for a bit and when that proves ineffective, get the rest of what you need by giving her gifts. You can buy gifts in Larna.

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>>14574678
I used up a whole stack of them and it didn't raise a single relationship rank.

Resurrection on the other hand has proven to be much more effective. I suppose I don't need to rely on gifts as long as I have enough spell stock.

>>14573024
i started by modifying full sprites, exctracting part of them to put on other sprites, creating small accessories etc

what you need to know is there are a few body sprites and its impossible to make something that fits them all so you have to choose:

big body (no room for the mount, old default)
small body (current default)
eyecandy body (small waist big boobs)

i may be forgetting some

>>14574689
As I said, iirc love potions cap at 100 impress, if the target is already at friend they do absolutely nothing to their impress. Not sure how it works for resurrection, reviving a dead pet a couple of versions ago didn't restore them to the previous relationship if it was high enough, so gaining impress through kill->res was impossible for pets after a certain level.
Not sure if it works differently for npcs or they changed it.

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goddamnit i just wanted to search for the keys

does this game have comfy controls yet (like ToMe or the like)?

>>14574872
You are going too fast anon! Take it easy

>>14574872
I know this is counter to what normal RPGs have taught most people but you should grind a bit then do quests. Come back when you're like lv 5. You'll do better and I won't have to see you and others melt down in the caves or worst. Good luck anon.

>>14574875
you can make your own keybinds

>>14574872
I'm surprised this game is still getting new players.

>>14575018
Why? This game has always gotten a stream of new players and even veterans are coming back to it. It's an easier entry into roguelikes as you don't necessarily need to start out playing with perma death and it has a ton of features. It also has an interesting cult following in Japan.

>>14575018
i just started a couple of days ago, npcs keep stoning me for my flawless performance

>>14575054
Play for your pet in your home and play for beggars to start with. Use your level ups to boost performance. Around 50 performance you should be doing ok. Avoid playing around Loyter though. That asshole will only accept you if you end up being some sort of musical prodigy.

i should've never gotten thois fucking tight rope when i keep hanging myself by accident

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>>14575077
50 what? are you talking about this?

>>14575241
Yes, get performance to at least lv 50. If you get platinum coins, usually rewards from quests you do from the town board, see a trainer and raise the potential to as high as you can. Max is 400%. The more potential behind the skill the easier it is to level it up when you grind the skill. As you level a skill up the potential decreases so it's a fight to spend platinum coins to keep potential high so leveling a skill isn't too hard.

When you level up you get bonus skill points and you can increase skill levels that way too instead of grinding out your skill. In this case, grinding by playing a musical instrument in front of people.

>>14575308
You know, just getting the ensemble is enough to appease all of Palmia npcs excluding high lvl adventurers. Once you get ensemble, it all becomes smoother. You still have to pick out the right audiences for party time though at this point.

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My first living weapon is coming along nicely

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>>14575412

>>14575308
thanks for the help anon, i just got 2 music tickets

>>14575397
I wasn't sure if he played with pets or not. Still, nothing wrong with shooting for higher performance skill level.

>>14575412
>>14575419
Holy shit

>>14575435
what do you mean by playing with pets?
if i perform while riding my little girl? lmao that sound so wrong

>>14575040
>It also has an interesting cult following in Japan.
Mind explaining further on this? I would also expect the japanese playerbase to be much more populated than here.

>>14575412
>>14575419
>not full piercing

Actually, how does the piercing attribute compare with "deals massive damage to x" attribute? Wouldn't the former be more effective?

>>14575494
I'm not sure. Of course, I would have loved that the base weapon be a lightsaber or something, but beggars can't be choosers.

>>14575491
Ensemble is a special action you get once you have 30 in performance and level up. The special action lets you and your pet play music together. In effect, you can start your own band and play around the world! Anyhow, other anon is correct that it makes things easier as your pets performance skill, if they have it, helps out when you play your instrument. Meaning it's easier to impress others doing ensemble. The interesting thing is the pet doesn't need an instrument just the performance skill to help. I guess the pet is doing vocals for your band.

>>14575494
Check out some of the youtube videos of Elona. You also got some really good fanart out there. I think in one of the japanese lets plays I heard the guy say that both amateur and professional game designers make mention of playing Elona in Japan.

>>14575541
Do they love Shena's ass?

>>14575505
From the wiki page

>inflicts massive damage to x
>It only applies to god, dragon and undead. No matter how many #, it still only inflicts 50% the original damage as an extra damage.

>It gives you a chance to throw an absolute piercing attak
>attack ignores PV.

What a massive gap in power. Extra damage compared to completely ignoring target's PV. Still, seems better than the other options when leveling a living weapon. Now I'm inspired to possibly craft a living spear.

>>14575601
Well, I'm still stuck using Vesda's gloves, so I already have the chance to throw a piercing attak. But yeah, my weapon is still fresh so maybe I'll unlock some cool stuff for it later

>>14575571
Of course.

>>14575505
With carpentry you can create your own lightsaber. I heard ff you keep creating them eventually you'll stumble upon a living lightsaber.