Since 1869 at least, the conclusion was that it was shit and didn't work. After WWII the Americans tried to fool the Japanese into thinking that kanji actually stopped literacy but surveys proved that pretty much everyone knew how to read so they stopped pressuring.
>>12320432 The whole kanji and hirigana system was almost scrapped and replaced with romanization. During the Meiji era many scholars tjat had gone to England and other European countries came back insisting that english romantization be fully replace the traditional language and to even have a wide spread interbreeding program with the white Western Europe with Japanese to create a hybred race.
Soon students in certain parts of Japan had only been taught the romantization and could not even read Japanese. The Meiji government thought this was too much and passed stricter education laws that would almost militarize middle schools and high schools while mandating traditional Japanese language be taught. These laws actually pleased the Japanese populaces more since it would preserve Japanese traditions. Despite what the Japanese are taught today, the Meiji era was drought with rebellions, riots, and military scandals that were living conspiracies the majority of people blatantly saw. For the system of Japanese written language to be obliterated would have caused even more public up roar and defacing of Meiji. The original loyalists to the shogunate who managed to adapt to Meiji's new government took up partitions with those they financially backed within the new government to curve the idea of hosting an intermarriage/mating, between whites and japanese, bureaucratic system. The end of this interbreeding government movement was when one of Charles Darwin's partner's suggested that if the Japanese and whites were to come together in nation wide interbreeding than it could result in children that had neither specialized traits the two ethnicity had separately developed. The leason is learn Japanese instead of pushing romantiziation of the language for your silly animus. Baka OP Gaijin!
Not as ambiguous when there are spaces, and they could just assign different meanings of homophones to numbers to differentiate them, like shita1 has X meaning and shita2 has Y meaning, still way easier than kanji.
Again, all of these proposals were put forward and researched exhaustively before you or my grandfather were even born. The difference is that back then it was a serious debate between Japan-born linguists and intellectuals who knew all too well how their own language worked. One of the major proponents of kanji abolition, Maejima Hisoka, even published a daily newspaper written entirely in hiragana, which ran for about a year from 1873 (with little success, I may add). Today, it's just a bunch of lazy gaijin neckbeards who keep lamenting about having too much stuff to study, despite being blessed by all kinds of modern electronic tools. No country is going to impoverish one's own language just to appease a nobody like you, remember that.
If you ask me, the reason Japan dodged the bullet unlike Korea and got kept the Chinese character was because of their technological advancement over the rest of the kanji bunkaken. Chinese characters were actually a huge hurdle for the diffusion of the automated printing press and the typewriter, and thus a modernization of society. Japan somehow made it through and was able to transition to PCs and word processors fast enough to nullify any strain represented by kanji. Poor ass countries like Korea and Vietnam couldn't make it in time.
Korea created Hangul because of illiteracy, after they taught Hangul, the literacy rates shot up.
Vietnam switched to Latin letters since they got colonized by the French and the French made it so that only Latin letters were taught. This was so they could transition to learning French much easier.
>>12324389 >and they could just assign different meanings of homophones to numbers to differentiate them, like shita1 has X meaning and shita2 has Y meaning What the fuck, I think this is the most retarded thing I've read this year. Congratulations.
>>12324389 > Not as ambiguous when there are spaces, and they could just assign different meanings of homophones to numbers to differentiate them, like shita1 has X meaning and shita2 has Y meaning, still way easier than kanji. Why not just write kanji above the word?
>>12324400 As you can see by >>12324319 Japanese was unable to be interpreted as anything other than Hiragana because of the limit of processors back then. The limit of the byte length, memory capacity, and whatnot made it unfeasible to include the entire Japanese character set in the early decades of computing. See JIS_X_0201, a standard made in 1969, has only Katakana. Like ASCII, it is 7/8-bit. PCs had the same problems as typewriters. These weren't resolved until 1978 with JIS C 6226, well after the Korean war had ended from the perspective of the American occupiers.
>>12320432 i think everyone wonders this when they're brand new at the language. i know i did.
but what happens is you learn a bunch of kanji, and then you realize how unwieldy kanas and romaji are, how much space on the paper they take up, and how annoying it would be to both read and write without kanji
and then you start to wish that english had some kind of condensed character writing system
Kanji is very useful for native. One Kanji-letter can discribe detail, complicated meanings. kanji is efficient when it is used as "jukugo(??)". jukugo is composed from 2-4kanjis. it is based on classical Japanese language.(and its origin is not only Japan bit also china)
>>12326866 I love kanji combined with grammatical kana. It's so readable. But I'm a new learner and too much kana in a sentence is difficult to parse. I wonder if it's much like that for native readers.
>>12324461 The switch from mixed script to hangul only in the 1970s was for general writings which extensively used hanja for nouns and adjectives, such as newspapers. Hanja is still used today for abbreviations, however appear much more rarely.
Pic related, ? is being used as an abbreviation for ??.
That's for the hearing impaired or for dramatic effect, not for "avoiding misunderstanding". The idea that Japanese language, especially spoken language, is overloaded with homophones is a misconception that only people who have never read any text in Japanese can possibly commit.
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