‘Comfort women’ outraged by Japanese gov’t attempt to revise

philippines...
shameful display

Has any country caused more butthurt than Japan?

Japan need to stop lying and admit their war crime.

>>55108072
good goy
Or are you chink diaspora?

>>55108072
Impossible.

because all Japs are just really sensitive to criticism.

If you say something negative about Japan, they will always counter you with something negative about your own country.

It's futile to argue with them because their autism levels are high and they'll continue for as long as necessary to get the last word in.

I've seen this autistic behavior way more with Japanese posters than any other nationality.

>>55108163
Then what the fuck are you?

A lot of Japanese deny Nanking was a large-scale massacre. Including their prime minister.

>>55107927
stop crying, its just forced benis goes bagina
not a big deal

>>55108163
definitely.
>>55108429
look whos talking
the main problem is your media in hyperbole and exaggerated ideological articles on those. compare your entire media and japanese entire media.

>>55108429

sewol sinking best day of my life

>>55108647
edgy

>>55108640
admit crimes

>>55107927
Is it even rape when a woman gets """""""""""""penetrated""""""""""""" by an asian"""""""""""""penis"""""""""""""?

>>55109039
>germoney
>raep

>>55108627
>forced

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>>55107927
Just because your great grandmother was a whore there's no need for her to make a sign about it.

>>55109102
sorry i'm not a liberator

>>55108163
maphilindo 101: when in doubts, blame the chinks

clean your master's house maid

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>>55109039
dutch think so
the absolute fucking cucks

>>55109003
i recognize you. ill never reply to you from now on.

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>>55109244

>>55109244
It must be really annoying when politicians from neighbouring countries mention comfort women for free public opinion.

I guess it's like American politicians mentioning 9/11

>>55107927
Damn, I uhh..wouldn't want any of those old bags to comfort me hahaha

I agree
the Japs need to apologise for bringing anime/manga into the world
they are responsible for weebs

Nips are cancer of Asia

>>55108429
I wonder what kind of negative thing they can say about my country.Would like to hear.

>>55109640
t. Kim

>>55109467
Still ok if only the politicians mention it, but the reality is much more shitter than that.
Except for the very small political group called "new right", both all of right and all of left media and political interest groups in korea have strong anti Japanese ideology for, ridiculously, only hyping/fooling people and making money/getting funded by doing it, and also as hivemind of their tradition and media control by their government.

In korean society, defending japan on media never ever is allowed. If they are doing that, they literally get purged from their society and instantly gel labeled as "pro japan aka 親日派" and never can come back. This isnt even an exaggeration, its just the fact. If you are still in doubt, see their records of trials and judicial precedents.

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>>55107927

Korean Comfort Women™ is professional troop/camp followers, prostitutes organized by Korean Mafia/Government.
Do you know "Monkey House" during Korean War?
or Are you a chink agent to propaganda anti-Japan?

>>55110491
I'm glad that my Europe's relationship with Germany is good apart from a few jokes, seeing the hostility towards Japan is saddening.

is it even rape if you actually improved the genepool?

>>55110634
I'm glad that Europe's*

>>55110634
It wouldn't be a problem if small minorities in Japan didn't deny that they committed any war crimes. With the nationalistic feeling that's been whipped up over the past centuries, denying war crimes is equivalent to visiting Auschwitz and denying the Holocaust

>>55110828
Most don't really deny it though, they just deny the numbers since they're massively misrepresented.

>>55109156
Kesian, cina tak kena mengena dipersalahkan. Sedih aku tengok.

>>55110891
Put it this way, would saying that the holocaust only killed sixty thousand instead of six gorillion piss off Israel any less?

>>55110891
>since they're massively misrepresented

Since most Japanese military records on the killings were kept secret or destroyed shortly after the surrender of Japan in 1945, historians have not been able to accurately estimate the death toll of the massacre. The International Military Tribunal for the Far East estimated in 1948 that over 200,000 Chinese were killed in the incident.[11]

>>55110982
Compared with denying it outright, that is

LOL! I like it how some posters here talk bad about Korean even though the article is talking about Philippines comfort women.

>>55111008
>On December 13, about 30 soldiers came to a Chinese house at #5 Hsing Lu Koo in the southeastern part of Nanking, and demanded entrance. The door was open by the landlord, a Mohammedan named Ha. They killed him immediately with a revolver and also Mrs. Ha, who knelt before them after Ha's death, begging them not to kill anyone else. Mrs. Ha asked them why they killed her husband and they shot her. Mrs. Hsia was dragged out from under a table in the guest hall where she had tried to hide with her 1 year old baby. After being stripped and raped by one or more men, she was bayoneted in the chest, and then had a bottle thrust into her vagina. The baby was killed with a bayonet. Some soldiers then went to the next room, where Mrs. Hsia's parents, aged 76 and 74, and her two daughters aged 16 and 14 [were]. They were about to rape the girls when the grandmother tried to protect them. The soldiers killed her with a revolver. The grandfather grasped the body of his wife and was killed. The two girls were then stripped, the elder being raped by 2–3 men, and the younger by 3. The older girl was stabbed afterwards and a cane was rammed in her vagina. The younger girl was bayoneted also but was spared the horrible treatment that had been meted out to her sister and mother. The soldiers then bayoneted another sister of between 7–8, who was also in the room. The last murders in the house were of Ha's two children, aged 4 and 2 respectively. The older was bayoneted and the younger split down through the head with a sword.[63]

>>55110205
Probably that your country is a shithole

And they would be right

>>55111085
>The seventh and last person in the first row was a pregnant woman. The soldier thought he might as well rape her before killing her, so he pulled her out of the group to a spot about ten meters away. As he was trying to rape her, the woman resisted fiercely ... The soldier abruptly stabbed her in the belly with a bayonet. She gave a final scream as her intestines spilled out. Then the soldier stabbed the fetus, with its umbilical cord clearly visible, and tossed it aside.[64]

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>>55111174
On December 18, 1937, as General Iwane Matsui began to comprehend the full extent of the rape, murder, and looting in the city, he grew increasingly dismayed. He reportedly told one of his civilian aides: "I now realize that we have unknowingly wrought a most grievous effect on this city. When I think of the feelings and sentiments of many of my Chinese friends who have fled from Nanking and of the future of the two countries, I cannot but feel depressed. I am very lonely and can never get in a mood to rejoice about this victory." He even let a tinge of regret flavor the statement he released to the press that morning: "I personally feel sorry for the tragedies to the people, but the Army must continue unless China repents. Now, in the winter, the season gives time to reflect. I offer my sympathy, with deep emotion, to a million innocent people." On New Year's Day, Matsui was still upset about the behavior of the Japanese soldiers at Nanking. Over a toast he confided to a Japanese diplomat: "My men have done something very wrong and extremely regrettable."[80]

>>55110982
That's different though, even though there's a lot of weird stuff surrounding the holocaust denying it is dumb, Nanking on the other hand has estimated losses from 40k-300k while the Chinese government just says 300k.

>>55111075
nobody give a shit about brown turds you called "kinsmen"

>>55111085
>a Mohammedan
what

>>55111233
It is similar. Japanese scholars are vehement that it was only 40,000-80,000 and that most were plainclothes soldiers who were terrorizing the Japanese once they entered the city.

This is what the post-war military tribunal declared and it's what most scholars agree on >>55111008

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>>55107927
>>55108072

>>55110651
Having Japs small penis DNA in your genepool is consider improving? Wakaka. Kelakar gila.

>>55111233
>OY VEY DOUBLE STANDARDS

>>55111268
The Hui people are muslims. A very tame variety though.
They have been in China since the Tang dynasty.

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>>55111303
>latvia talking about butthurt

>>55111301
That's not what Wikipedia says though.

>>55111230
The extent of the atrocities is debated,[58] with numbers ranging from some Japanese claims of several hundred,[59] to the Chinese claim of a non-combatant death toll of 300,000.[56] Historian Tokushi Kasahara states "more than 100,000 and close to 200,000, or maybe more", referring to his own book.[81] This estimation includes the surrounding area outside of the city of Nanking, which is objected to by a Chinese researcher (the same book, p. 146). Hiroshi Yoshida concludes "more than 200,000" in his book.[82] Tomio Hora writes of 50,000–100,000 deaths.[83]

Mainstream scholars consider figures from 40,000 to over 300,000 to be an accurate estimate. According to the International Military Tribunal for the Far East, estimates made at a later date indicate that the total number of civilians and prisoners of war murdered in Nanking and its vicinity during the first six weeks of the Japanese occupation was up to 200,000. These estimates are borne out by the figures of burial societies and other organizations, which testify to over 155,000 buried bodies. These figures do not take into account those persons whose bodies were destroyed by burning, drowning or by other means, or whose bodies were interred in mass graves.[57]

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>>55111427
What does it say?

>>55111496
You just posted it senpai

Japs have small penis. That is why they need to use rape and force women to become comfort women because no woman want their small dick.

>>55111360
its not a rape then.
merely respectful islamic courting ritual

>japs in charge of admitting they may have killed a few civilians during WWII

Two nukes were too many, the Japs honestly think of themselves as victims

>>55111427
In the 2010 Japan-China Joint History Research Committee meeting, scholars from the Japanese side set the maximum possible number of civilian victims at 200,000, with estimates of around 40,000 or 20,000. The Chinese scholars of the committee maintained that at least 300,000 were killed.[93]

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>>55111540
>malays
>muh dick
wut?

>>55111529
No I posted this you nigger >>55111559

>>55111546
They are literally the opposite of Germany. Deny deny deny.
We defend the shit out of them because Abe is a denier but he supports breaking the Japanese constitution to help our military.

>>55111559
If most scholars agreed on the Military Tribunal for the Far East numbers those numbers would be on the results bit on Wikipedia.

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>>55111407

>latvian riflemen was personal Lenins bodyguards
we are grateful to Lenin

so go learn history murica

>>55111544
Except for the part where the Japanese soldiers shot three of them to death and bayoneted the other 6.

Hard to court someone when they're dead you edgy faggot.

>>55111654
That's from 2010. The military tribunal was in 1948.

You have posted zero (0) sources.

Are you incapable of reading?

>>55107927
Japan learned from the best

>>55111693
funny, they usually blow themselves.
anyway, they're muslims, nothing value was lost

>>55111743
You're posting the entire Wikipedia article, why are you getting angry when I talk about part of the article?

>>55111770
>indonesia

How are there 255 million of you 160cm jungle orcs then?

>>55111857
please nuke them

>>55111847
You have provided zero (0) sources and have resorted to claims about "scholars" that you have not linked.

It's not that hard. Just click on the post number after you click on this post number.

I love how every country is out to get Japan all the time, and they just don't ever give a fuck. Success breeds jealously, as they say. All that's left now is for Nips to figure out how to breed in other areas.

>>55111624
Japanese bitches these days love our brown dick. Don't believe in me just go to Bali and see it yourselves.They don't like Japs men small penis and Japs men don't know how to treat women.

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>>55111948
>Japan
>success

Soon enough China will be richer per person at this rate.

>>55111918
>>55111301
Why are you butting in on a conversation you haven't read? Rude desu.

>>55111948
Success is irrelevant if you can't get laid. I choose pussy over money anytime.

Why dont you blame evils killing people recently or just now.
Chinese, Russians, Americans, France, Britain.

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>>55111990
>this wholepost
stay mad as east asians do your children

>>55112169
Because the places they're attacking can't afford propaganda.

>>55111990
Kek

>>55111997
I've been the anon you've responded to since the start.

The Japanese state a number from 40-80k.
The military tribunal said over 200k and most scholars agree with this, including liberal Japanese scholars like this man >>55111454

The Chinese government claims 300k. But we know the Chinese government considered all of Nanking City to be part of the massacre, even the battle fought in the week before.

The number is likely around 200k.

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>>55107927
Lel, Most of the prostitutes in Japan are from S, Korea, Philippines and China. Don't be pretending to be victims, Prostitution is Philippines and South Korea of common industry even now.

>>55112072
>I choose pussy over money anytime.
both of those aren't available for your option though

>>55112169
Because we don't usually attempt to minimize our mistakes and have the media and academia fully support our government.

>>55112244
If most scholars agreed that the losses were over 200k then Wikipedia wouldn't have the losses from 40-300k.

Also I doubt many modern scholars would agree with an investigation from 1948.

>>55112209
What? Iraq pumped out tons of propaganda 1991-2003.

Doesn't mean we didn't kill 500,000 Iraqis during the occupation.

>>55107927
Philippine ex-prostitutes even need our special apology? oh, shit. well, we would do providing that they could act like S.Koreans. it means, Philippines should be opposed to us.

by the way, we already apologized and paid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Women%27s_Fund

>>55112400
People won't be happy until you apologize every year for something that happened 70 years ago under a military government.

>>55112357
>I doubt many modern scholars still believe the 6 gorillion. If its old then you can't trust it right xddddddddd
Did you ever progress past GCSE history? Learn to evaluate the methods and hidden agendas behind sources rather than just dismissing them because they're old

>>55112357
That's because almost all Japanese scholars state 40-80k.

Wikipedia tries to not be biased. If you click the links next to that number almost all are Japanese scholars.

It also says 300k, so is that just as likely as the 40k number?

You are a denialist defending Japan. It's pathetic.

>>55112400
That apology and money != sincere apology.

It took y'all until 1995 and a non-LDP prime minister to give a half assed apology to "those harmed by our unfortunate actions in the World War."

>>55112491
>Learn to evaluate the methods and hidden agendas behind sources
That's what I'm doing though.

>>55112650
No you are not. You've posted ZERO sources and have done nothing but claim the MILITARY TRIBUNAL ON THE PACIFIC WAR CRIMES is inaccurate and scholars don't accept it.

Yet you post ZERO sources of scholars saying that.

>>55112494
So If I do an investigation and put the losses as 0 on Wikipedia they'll keep it because they're unbiased?

>>55112650
>I doubt many scholars would agree with an investigation from 1948
Then explain why they wouldn't, and conversely why the 6 gorillion is almost universally accepted despite being from the same time period

>>55112757
You wouldn't be WP:Notable or WP:Reliable

hydrogen bombs are sugoi

>>55112756
I didn't say they don't accept it, I said that scholars probably don't accept an investigation from 1948 that was conducted using 1948 methods and information since they're fucking scholars.

>>55112773
Outdated methods
Outdated information
Political interference

The Holocaust is a lot different, mostly because of political reasons.

>>55112626
Muh, if money ≠ sincere apology, when US can apologize about concentration camp of Japanese Americans in WW2?

>>55112848
scholars accept 1940s investigation s into the death count of the Holocaust though, the mainland Chinese media loves to draw links to the Holocaust and that just makes people like you look like imperialists with double standards, thus igniting waves of national sentiment

>>55108072
And become a cuck state like germany?. What happens in a war, ends in the war, only the losers care about reparations.

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>>55112990
Add to UK

Shouldn't we just drop all the "sins of the fathers" bullshit and shape our opinions on current politics and the aims and ideals of countries in the present and future?

It's like getting upset at the Arabs for besieging Hungarian lands in the 1500's instead of focusing on the migrant crisis, or the whole slave reparation thing in my country.

It's ineffectual, it's aimless, and in the end it achieves nothing.

I stand with Japan. They aren't the same people as Unit 713. They aren't the same people that held Korea as vassal.

>>55110491
That kinda makes sense, though, doesn't it?
Imagine a Polish media outlet writing "Hitler did nothing wrong". I think they would find themself isolated pretty quickly

>>55112475
lol amazing how the UK says so.

>>55111085
>>55111174


Holy fuck the Japs are animals

>>55112757
You wouldn't be accepted faggot. These are peer reviewed sources.

It just happens that the Japanese like to peer review each other's stuff.

>>55112848
Except that you provide no source showing they don't. People were convicted based upon this tribunal. It's as good as it gets.

Furthermore, the 2010 Joint Study between the Chinese and Japanese concluded a number similar to the Tribunal. So fuck off.

>>55113149
It achieves plenty, it directs hostile sentiment and unrest externally a LA Argentina and the Falklands
If it was geopolitically beneficial to drop the war crimes stuff then it'd be forgotten by tomorrow

>>55112990
This really, and Japan already handed out plenty reparations. I agree that they should accept what they did instead of hiding it, but they don't need to go lowering their heads to the whole world for shit that happened so long ago. Horrible things happen in war, and the Japanese were hardly the worst offenders.

>>55113290
People got convicted for being Jews in the holocaust, must be a reason to convict people!

>>55113331
agree desu

>>55113295
How does it benefit the Philippines?
It seems like jealousy to me, a search for international attention through the soapbox.

>>55112974
I didn't say that.

But money after almost all the women have died or are about to die, is pointless. There were only 45 South Korean "comfort women" left this December 31st.

The apologies are not sincere. They are political tools. I dislike all sides in this argument because all are corrupt.
But the Japanese were the ones who invaded and killed millions. Not the ones who were killed.

Also, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Liberties_Act_of_1988

>>55113442
You were referring to the op? This is just opportunism on the part of the women involved, they see an opportunity to get more money out of the japs, who are under enormous pressure at the moment

>>55113331
Except they have paid practically nothing.

Almost all the casualties of the Japanese are dead or are in their 90's.

The problem is that the Japanese are not SINCERE in their apology.

>>55113552
Surely them being raped and seeing their family killed by an invading force not respecting any laws of war has nothing to do with how they feel.

It's just money amirite?

>>55112256
1 in 20 Japanese women worked in sex industry

http://newsonjapan.com/html/newsdesk/article/105598.php

>>55112264
Bang a Japs bitch before. She like it.

>>55112990
They just need to stop denying it. That's all.

>>55113552
What pressure are they under now?

America now has all it wants from Japan. Their military will actively support us in any war against China now.

Japan didn't apologize at all until 1995 with their first non-LDP prime minister for a reason. They were under no significant pressure.

>>55113630
Notice how it was never brought up before, only now?

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>>55113553
>being sincere when apologizing on the behalf of dead people that other dead people wronged during the most savage war in history

Sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry

Imagine if US said Hiroshima and Nagasaki never happen.

>>55113754
Chinese and korean pressure mostly, it's much easier to get something out of someone if they're already under attack by others

>be filipino politician
>notice my approval ratings are going down
>get some men to dress up as women and complain about being comfort women
>approval ratings skyrocket
>japan gives me millions of dollars in compensation

>>55113224
Ever heard of Unit 731?

Anime is Japanese mental counseling.

>>55113552
No, it because Japan deny it which is why they protest.

>>55113908
thanks bby

>>55114066
>2001+15
>not being cynical

>>55113781
The Chinese have been bringing it up since the 70's.

Why else would the Japanese first apology have been in 1995? 50 years after the war. Not 70.

>>55113787
My grandmother was 18 in 1945 and she is from Tokyo. In 1995 the Japanese could have been very much sincere.

>>55113958
Of course. What is your point?

The Japanese waited 50 years until they had their first liberal prime minister to give a half-assed apology. They waited until 2005 to give out money and 2015 to apologize to the Koreans.

The Germans apologized in 1945.

>>55108601
Because it wasnt duh
do you now what was a large-scale massacre? hiroshima and nagasaki

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>>55114031
>be Japanese prime minister
>don't have a large majority in parliament
>need to "reinterpret" the constitution
>visit war criminal shrine to piss off China and South Korea
>point out that China and South Korea threaten Japan
>"reintepret" constitution that bans foreign military operations

Abenomics

>>55114161
Read this. Japan deny their war crime recently and the Philippines are responding to this denial.
http://www.japantoday.com/category/politics/view/japan-tells-u-n-it-has-found-no-evidence-of-forced-wwii-sex-slavery

>>55114200
My point is >>55113552

>>55114200
Wasn't the emperor going to apologize but Macarthur said not to?

>>55114287
The shrine isn't just dedicated to war criminals though. And how many times have you edited your constitution? You'd change it the same way if you were in Abe's position, especially with all the American pressure.

>>55114301
This isn't denying it happened though, they're just saying it wasn't official.

>>55114246
I agree.

A lot of Japanese including my relatives dislike America for doing that.

But 30 million Chinese civilians died in the war. 45 million in total.
3 million Japanese soldiers and civilians died in the bombings and war.

Nanking surrendered and the international observers even created a safe zone which the Japanese swore to respect. But they then ignored it and slaughtered tens of thousands in the zone.

Dropping the nuke was done because Japan put a lot of their war factories right in the center of the city.

Japan apologized and payed.
They add crime and demand.
Japan apologized and payed.
They add crime and demand.
Japan apologized and payed.
They add crime and demand.
NO MORE

>>55107927
If I look at this old Grandmas and than think how respectless the Japanese call them legit whores after they raped them makes feel disgust.

Japanese people are people with no remorse.
There is no need to critisize the nukes because two of them where clearly not enough.

>>55114490
>Dropping the nuke was done because Japan put a lot of their war factories right in the center of the city.
lol

>>55114431
Imagine if Merkel visited a cemetery where Mengele was buried every year. There are other shrines Abe and co could visit but they insist on the Yasukuni. Why piss off your neighbours for no good reason? This is one thing I've never managed to understand

>>55114521
You never payed for comfort women and it was up from the beginning.

You just called those raped women whores so far.

>>55114552
t. korea

>>55114521
Japan apologize.
Japan deny.
People doubt Japan sincerity.
Japan apologize again.
Japan deny.

Repeat.

>>55113754
>Japan didn't apologize at all until 1995
to who? the war time prostitutes?

>>55114309
That doesn't change the fact these women were raped and attacked by the Japanese.
They could be doing it for the fucking Indian six armed poo god for all I care.
The Japanese wronged them and have not provided a sincere apology or compensation.

Kind of hard now that almost all of them have passed away.

>>55114431
I know. Does that make it a part war criminal part normal Japanese soldier shrine? If someone buried Hitler with a million German soldiers, it would still be the Hitler war criminal shrine.

Abe played his people by visiting the shrine and they took the bait hook line and sinker.
Who else can promise economic revival and then have 2 recessions in three years of control?

Most of Asian countries are parasite to Japan.
This is why we hate Asia.
They just wanna money. They don't have any pride.

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>>55114665

>>55114521
>>55114301
Why do you keep letting things like this happen? I'd love to be friends with Japan but geopolitics has set us on opposing courses...this kind of action serves but only to reopen old wounds again

>>55114661
No wonder a Brit doesn't understand this.
You beat up grannies with empty beer bottles here when you aren't busy shitting in a public pool.

Hey guys i just had an idea.
If we kill all non-europeans and all non-japanese, we won't have anyone to apologise to anymore.

Do it/Don't do it ?
I vote we do it.

>>55114608
"The shrine now lists the names, origins, birthdates, and places of death of 2,466,532 men, women and children, including 1,068 war criminals"

" The shrine's purpose has been expanded over the years to include those who died in the wars involving Japan spanning from the entire Meiji and Taishō period, and lesser part of the Shōwa period."

Imagine if Merkel visited a shrine dedicated to millions of people and soldiers since the 1800s and people complained because a few war criminals were also listed?

>>55114737
They want you to stop denying your war crime. That's all.

>>55114320
No. The emperor was going to abdicate but then MacArthur convinced DC to allow the Emperor to remain for Japanese unity.
Made the occupation easier.

>>55114431
Does that change how he manipulated his people using the same tactics as the Chinese, Koreans, and Flips?

>>55114488
It literally is. Can you not read the title?

>>55114737
>says the dude who comes from a rapist country that cries like a little child when confronted with it's massrapes and genocides.

>>55114773
You need to tell that to Japan who still unable to move on from the past and try to revise and distort history.

>>55114521
You waited till 1995 to apologize with your liberal prime minister.
You tried changing your textbooks to remove any mention of Nanking.
You then visit Yakunizi shrine.
You then finally in 2015 give the 45 living "comfort women" some money.

Wow that's such an apology.

>>55114781
This
I hope all Asian will be die.
We really hate them

>>55114832
Read the article

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>apologize for something dead people did to other dead people that you had no part in
lmao

>>55114979
Next genocide on it's way.

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sorry

>>55114788
If there was a mengele there then yes, it would be a problem. Nationalism 101,if there's anything that could be perceived as an insult to your country, it probably is. We're not talking about tolerant rational European countries here

>>55114752
In May 1994, Justice Minister Shigeto Nagano called the Nanjing Massacre a "fabrication".[114]

On June 19, 2007, a group of around 100 Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) lawmakers again denounced the Nanjing Massacre as a fabrication, arguing that there was no evidence to prove the allegations of mass killings by Japanese soldiers. They accused Beijing of using the alleged incident as a "political advertisement".[115] [116]

On February 20, 2012, Takashi Kawamura, mayor of Nagoya, told a visiting delegation from Nanjing that the massacre "probably never happened". Two days later he defended his remarks, saying, "Even since I was a national Diet representative, I have said [repeatedly] there was no [Nanjing] massacre that resulted in murders of several hundred thousands of people."[117][118] On April 1, 2013, Kawamura said his position remained unchanged when the issue came up during an election debate.[119]

On February 24, 2012, Tokyo governor Shintaro Ishihara said that he also believes that the Nanjing massacre never happened. He reportedly claims it would have been impossible to kill so many people in such a short period of time.[120] He believes the actual death toll was 10,000.[121]

On February 3, 2014, Naoki Hyakuta, a member of the board of governors of Japan's public broadcasting company, NHK, was quoted as saying the massacre never occurred.[122] He said that there were isolated incidents of brutality but no widespread atrocity, and criticized the Tokyo Trials figure of 200,000.[123]

>>55114788
Yes, there would be a problem. We're not talking about exhausted deradicalized tolerant European countries here, we're looking at regimes who will seize every opportunity to direct national attention overseas.

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>>55115000
>wait 70 years until everyone is dead
>hey look we can't give a sincere apology so we don't need to give one

My grandma was 18 in 1945. She's from Tokyo. I talk to here every month.

>>55114788
Our Politicians visited so far only the War memorials of the other countries.

>>55115053
I guess it's like if a Muslim country got angry for a European leader going to a shrine dedicated to the Crusades.

Asians always pretend to be victims to get money it's their whole history.

>>55115255
Wow you are just the victim of the victims.
So you are Superasian?

>>55115227
Stop self hating pls Germany

>>55115314
Hahaha

>>55114639
out of curiosity, Has Germany apologized/paid to French prostitutes? I heard you enjoyed many french women and made a lot of babies during the war time.

>>55115255
Japanese always lies and deny their war crime.

>>55115253
In a way, yes, but this doesn't go back anywhere near as many years, hence the butthurt is all that much more amplified

>>55115475
Sorry bro

>>55115473
We had an own administration where everyone could apply until 1991.
If you can prove that you suffered from Nazis then you recieved compensation.
My own Grandma got 12000 DM (Would be a worth of (8000€ now).
Her parents died in a conentration camp.

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>>55115253
See since we are in the 21st century wr expect slightly different behavior than we did in the 11th.

If any country besides Japan did this you guys would be fuming.

Just because Japan makes your cartoons doesn't mean you need to blindly defend it.

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>>55114934
>Yakunizi shrine

>>55115475
As you know, Asian women are most expensive prostitutes.
Your nasty grandmother how money want bro?

>>55115404
No way.

This is the TOTAL HUMANISM!!!!

>>55115314
I hate muh comfort whore hoax and germoney but you makes me laugh

>>55115612
>strawmanning

>>55115475
What is Japanese War Crimes?
Show evidences.

>>55115612
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBfWKmRFTjM

>>55115000
this 2bh.

>>55115612
4chan is weeb central so that's to be expected.

Still, I try not to go into an argument with biases and stereotypes in mind.

>>55115705
It's not a strawman argument, it's true. If Japan wasn't a living breathing meme that creates your video game consoles and Japanamations then you would be supporting these women.

All they want is recognition of Japanese warcrimes (of which there are lots)

>>55107927
Didn't the gooks already get their gibsmedat from Japan? Just fuck off already.

>>55115672
Haha one of my favorite shows.

Sorry I misspelled. Japanese is difficult to write properly.

>>55115858
It's like black people constantly demanding reparations.

>>55115827
Look here >>55115224

Interesting parallel
https://m.thetrumpet.com/articles/5027,24

>>55115603
>We had an own administration where everyone could apply until 1991.
nonsense. it's S.Korea that denied such a way we suggested to compensate for Koreans. this topic is very common, you know.

>>55115880
>>55115942
Subhumans gonna subhuman.

>>55115942
Hahaha, it's not even close to that though. They aren't asking for money or anything like that, they just don't want people to rewrite their history.

If this happened to some women in, let's say, Somalia, or Cuba or some other insignificant country as far as international culture goes, would you be reacting the same way?

>>55115942
They must be starving to die
They just wanna meal for tomorrow
It means they haven't got independence from us yet.

>>55115942
Exactly.

>>55116029
:)
I think you will need to back this up Tojo.

Comfort women were never acknowledged by the japanese gov.

>>55114934
>You tried changing your textbooks to remove any mention of Nanking.
didn't you know the fuss was from just a rumor. don't any English articles mention it?

>>55116062
They aren't denying it though, they're just saying they have no records that it was official.

>>55115991
But who were these people who 'waited' Anyway? The people who did the crimes ,ofc!

>>55115942
Slavery happened 150 years ago, WWII was merely 70. And white people haven't exactly been unapologetic about it, no politician would ever publicly defend slavery

>>55115942
Niggers gonna Nig even at the other side of the world.

>>55116290
When I'm Fuhrer I'll defend slavery

We just waiting for Asian appreciate us developed them

>>55116267
That's exactly deniel.
There are several records and even some eye witnesses are still alive.

This is the core of denial itself.

>>55116411
>implying you will ever lead a country

>>55116152
S.Korean government, too. that's why the previous president Park or someone else back then named the prostitutes during Korea war "Comfort woman" as well.

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>>55116471
>implying I wont

You'll be the first against the wall

>>55116052
They did get money?

You realize only 45 SK "comfort" women were alive when they struck the deal Dec 31st.

>>55116460
They're not denying it though.

>>55116438
It doesnt help that war crime denial is only a few steps from embellishing the Japanese conquests as a genuine good thing for Asian peoples, which the historical record objectively doesn't show

>>55116281
There are Japanese soldiers from 1945 still alive and SK/Chinese/Flips women.

Just very very few

More German people think negatively of Japan due to Japan inability to move on from past.
http://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Economy/International-Relations/Germany-dismayed-by-Japan-s-inability-to-move-on?page=1

>>55116528

Just let the western bastards freeze in the dark

>>55116460
Every year the number of witness is increasing and they look like younger, I don't know why.

>>55116557
They officially call those women prostitutes.
They fucked them and payed them.

It was just soldiers using the service of prostitutes.
In Japanese records it's not mentioned that they were women forced into the sex with soldiers. And the payment was food and the stuff they need to survive.

Exposition: Asahi shimbun
Rising action: The Korean Council for the Women Drafted for Military Sexual Slavery by Japan

They are all fucking pro-nork commies you libtards

>>55116530
You could get all the money of the world, the only thing you'd do with it is squander it on worthless shit.
You're subhumanity is in your blood, no amount of virtue signaling will change your genetics.

Humans build civilisation out of nothing.
Subhumans build nothing out of civilisation.

>Sex Slaves of the Japanese Imperial army peacefully protest against the Japanese government rewriting their history
>/int/ acts like they're niggers chimping out and says they're lazy subhumans asking for reparations
stay classy, /int/

>>55114599
He's right. Plus the landings would have caused more deaths -- by thirtyfold -- than both bombings combined.

>>55116609
>>55116609
>>55116609
By implying that the comfort women are fake you are being exactly the kind of archetypical war crime denier we're discussing here.

>>55116267
But there are records and witnesses.

All these women want is recognition of what happened to them, they aren't looking for any material gain from any of this, just acknowledgement of what the Japanese government did to them all those years ago.

>>55116718
I'm indifferent it's just funny

>>55116784
They have the recognition though, they're had reparations and have been apologized to.

>>55116730
His nuke excuse is the worst I've ever heard.

>>55116609
Is there not even a little remorse towards those old ladies in you?
Japs are really people with no soul.

You are very respectless towards the old.

>>55116834
Did you even read the article? The Japanese government is denying the fact that this happened. All the women want is recognition.

>>55116935
No Japanese people actually use 4chan anymore, silly.

They stopped using 4chan years ago when it became more than just a English 2chan.

The guy you're talking with is a obvious proxy user.

>>55116834
>>55115108
Elected politicians denying the very thing past leaders apologized for is hardly going to show them that the apologies were sincere

>>55116936
"Tokyo has offered repeated apologies over the issue, and says that while there was military involvement in the establishment of “comfort stations” there is no evidence its officials were involved in the abduction of women for the purpose."

"It says private brokers were responsible in some cases, and in others, the women were common prostitutes."

"“‘Forceful taking away’ of comfort women by the military and government authorities could not be confirmed in any of the documents that the GOJ (government of Japan) was able to identify,” it said in a report dated Dec 8."

Why UK or France are not demanded to pay reparation?
We don't wanna pay something to son of prostitutes.

>>55116909
Nice rebuttal, paki. Both options were terrible.
>imposing your risibly erroneous view of morality on war
kill yourself

>>55117028
There you have your denial.
Given by officials.

>>55117058
Are you having a fucking stroke?

He said they nuked the cities because there were factories in the middle of them, that's the worst excuse I've ever heard and if you defend it you might actually be mentally impaired.

>>55117028
>and says that while there was military involvement in the establishment of “comfort stations” there is no evidence its officials were involved in the abduction of women for the purpose
Did you miss this part or what?

>>55117117
The entire purpose of the bombing was to destroy their war machine, which entirely supported by their over-industrialized factories mass producing war technology, which, coincidentally, was in the city centre.

>>55117157
Did you not read any of my posts?

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>Nips are so autistic they think that because some people from their country did something bad they have to cover it up and pretend it never happened, even though it was long before their parents were born
Every single Japanese person is that loser who does whatever the older kids ask them to

>>55117058
Morality and avoiding mass casualties in assaulting the Japanese mainland have nothing to do with factories

>>55116602
that's the way it sure is. they totally believe that Germany is has changed and become so honest that it can accept a lot of refugees. meanwhile Japan is on the opposite side just like it's Germany in the past.

>>55117210
So you can firebomb the entire capital but two industrial towns need nukes? Fuck off.

There are good excuses for the nukes but this is not one of them.

>>55117258
Listen, chink, the nips should have slaughtered all of you.

1944 US report stated women were deceived into becoming comfort women by Japanese agent. Only a few comfort women were truly common prostitute.
http://www.exordio.com/1939-1945/codex/Documentos/report-49-USA-orig.html
http://www.exordio.com/1939-1945/codex/Documentos/report-49-USA-orig.html

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>>55117234
There are three options
You embrace the war crime allegations and become cucks like Germany

You apologize for the war crimes and give reparations but don't completely give in to all allegations like Japan

Or you cover up the war crimes like all big countries in every war they win

>>55117218
A key part of the comfort women issue is whether they were forced into it. By saying private brokers or common prostitutes were involved they are saying it was either voluntary or not their responsibility.

>>55117218
I did. All these women want is recognition by the --current-- Japanese government that this happened, the --current-- Japanese government seems to be covering up the fact that the Imperial government took Filipino women as sex slaves.

What I'm saying is, these women have every right to protest the statements made by the --current-- Japanese government, and if you guys weren't culture-cucks that fell for literally every meme about Japan you'd probably be supporting these women.

Newsflash: Japan isn't just funny cartoons and cool video games. It's a nation that was founded by Korean Warlords years ago and was in total isolation for years. After World War II, American officials took over the re-development of Japan and that's why it's the economic super power it is today.

>>55117365
ameritard strikes again

>>55117562
>Korean warlords
???

>>55117562
>everyone that disagrees with me is a weeaboo
Did you get turned down by a Japanese girl or something? Why are you so angry?

Its free to demand, but we have no interest.

>>55117562
Well said. They just want recognition.But you know, Japanese right winger will distort and said they want money to divert attention away from the issues address at hand.

>>55117736
Probable Asian diaspora of some sort, they tend to either be full weeb or hate it

>>55117736
If I were angry I would've ended this conversation posts ago. I'm not saying you're a weeaboo, I'm saying that you have a very clear bias.

>>55117971
You have an even clearer bias if you're saying everyone who defends Japan is a weeaboo.

>>55118050
But I just said you aren't a weeaboo.

>>55118078
You've brought up anime like 3 times this thread, it's pretty obvious what you're trying to imply.

So why are the men of Korea mad?

Japan did not deny about raped women. Japan only denied about "military official order" to rape women.

>>55118172
They need money for plastic surgery for their ugly girlfriend.

>>55115000
If you don't, you rescind your right to be proud of any of your ancestors' achievements, too. Either you are their heir, or you aren't.

>>55118172
Inferiority Complex.

>>55118269
see >>55117519

>>55118127
That your typical 4chan user (including myself) has a appreciation for Japanese culture and tend to defend Japan because of this, is what I'm trying to imply.

>>55115942
Black people deserved reparations at the time. I don't know if they got them or if they were enough but you can't just commit atrocities and then say "oops, no hard feelings right?".

>>55118359
That's a shit way to converse though, if I did the same I'd just be shitting on you for being chinknadian every post you make.

>>55117496
There are only two options: you embrace the truth or you don't. If Japan really didn't do those crimes, then they don't have to do anything. If they did, they have to admit it. There is no meta-level conflict here.

>>55118435
Black people have only stopped demanding reparations recently though.

>>55118522
your argumentation is a shit way to defed Japan.
Why do you even defend them?

Crime is crime and shouldn't be defended but judged.

>>55118624
Proxyfag please go.

>>55118522
But Canada having a large minority of Chinese is different then the majority of 4chan users (besides the 14 year olds who use /b/) being interested in Japanese culture.

>>55117519

>>55118624
You should focus on your country problems nasty prim minister continue to make.

>>55118696
Not when we're talking about comfort women and Japanese war crimes.

>>55118772
I can decide myself what I should and what not.

>>55118664
Looks like you were beaten.

>>55118825
Your English is too bad for you to be German so you're either an ex-pat or a proxyfag.

>>55108429
damn that sounds like us

Private broker broke the low and sometimes militantly officer dont care about it because they war busy to fight.
Victims lost their right to demand when japan payed their government but japan has apologized about that and payed and give healthcare additionally.
After that Korean start to demand additional additional payment and even trial to criminals.
We payed additional additional payment but there no lows for 70 years ago crime at wartime, so its over.

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>>55109209
those are funny pics

>Rape is worse than death

ayy

Fuck is Korea complaining about? Didn't they see what happened to Nanjing, if that were them there wouldn't be a Korea left

>>55108072
Japan has the same problem that Russians have. Simple ignorance and plain refusing to even consider that they have done anything wrong, they just think that others are trying to attack their great nation's honor. Its ridiculous mindset that they have, cant accept any fact about their past that puts them into a bad light (war crimes etc.)

>>55119185
I have to disagree, modern russians appreciate how their grandparents protected the nation in WW2 while modern japanese don't even like the idiots who ran the nation into the ground during the imperial era.

>>55119185
It's not as bad in Japan. Thankfully many are willing to accept that like any country they have made mistakes as well as achieving glory in their past

>>55118905
>all germans speak native english

:)

>>55119390
Should've paid attention in school friend.

>>55119460
The mayority here doesn't speak english at all.

Shocking facts.

>>55119460
Ihave a C1 certificate btw.
kek

Schools are just schools.

>>55119545
>>55119615
64% of your country speak English and most of the people I spoke to in Germany spoke great English.

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>>55108429
>because their autism levels are high

this coming from the e"""""""""""""sport""""""""""""" center of the world

>>55119545
>>55119615
German really good at speaking English.
They even teach how to English to English people.

>>55116680
When do you leave SK David-kun?

>>55117028
Are you unable to read what you wrote?

>>55108647
Please stop. you look like a childish nip poster.

>>55120273
Are you unable to read?

>>55117496
Or you can SINCERELY apologize, pay reparations, and not let hundreds of Japanese lawmakers INCLUDING YOUR PRIME MINISTER actively deny Nanking was a massacre and that some South Korean women were forced into sexual slavery.

It's not that difficult. America apologized to the Japanese interns in 1988 without self-flagellating.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Liberties_Act_of_1988

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IT'S 2016 YOU KEKS

WHO EVEN CARES

>>55120504
As long as Japan pay money to them.

>>55118522
4chan is a weeb website. They are biased towards Japan, including me.
Ever notice all the people so happy Japan doesn't let in any refugees or immigrantsv

If you didn't notice.

>>55120436
So the first option?

>>55119355
>let me speak for your nation

Odd that this happens >>55115108
100+ of the 250 LDP parliament says Nanking wasn't a massacre.
Just the minority huh?

>>55120643
That's mostly because they're the only country that aren't being cucks.

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>>55119714
In Bavaria they were Japan-tier with english.
I met a guy who didn't understand "yes" and "no." I had to use German.

>>55113724
We never deny war time prostitutes and the Philippines and South Korea are still necessary to the prostitution industry for US military is called monky house/juicy bar and Japanese. In fact, there are a ton of Illegal prostitutes from Philippines, China and S, Korea. When they will be deported, they make a new claim JAPAN IS RACIST.

>>55120341
Can you not read? Denying there is evidence = denying it happened.

Unless you think the court of law works based upon circumstantial evidence alone.

>>55120939
So you can't read, okay,

>>55120504
The relatives of the 40 million Chinese who died in the Japanese invasion of China.

>>55120738
That's not being a cuck. That's accepting historical facts.
Is America a cuck for apologizing and paying reparations to Japanese interns? We don't have hundreds of politicians actively denying it happened. Unlike Japan.

Japan = say some of the words, but they do not believe what they are saying

>>55121020
Nice shitposting. Go back to your slowly dying nation Takeshi.

>>55120896
You deny some of them were forced into that role by your military.

>>55121097
They don't deny it happened, they just deny that they killed 7 trillion babies after raping them like China loves to spout.

>>55121187
"Tokyo has offered repeated apologies over the issue, and says that while there was military involvement in the establishment of “comfort stations” there is no evidence its officials were involved in the abduction of women for the purpose."

Have fun being a minority in a few years in your 60% white country senpai

>>55120751
Say what you want about the right wing politicians, I'm referring to the centre and left and their voters here

>>55121471
see
>>55117519

>>55121676
I know, I'm just saying they're not denying it happened.

>>55121404
Source?

>>55121471
That's denying they werte forced to be comfort women. That's the crux of the whole issue.
Read the second sentence you quote.

>>55121731
No they literally are.

>while there was military involvement in the establishment of “comfort stations” there is no evidence its officials were involved in the abduction of women for the purpose."

I'm done with you.

>>55122130
They said that it happened and there were comfort women but their officials didn't procure them.

>>55121731
Which is why people still want Japan to apologize. Because they feel that Japan did forcibly enslave comfort women, and that statements like these essential denigrate the comfort women as willing sex slaves. Interpreting the facts is obviously up to the individual, but this is why there is so much anti-japan sentiment

>>55121317
So if forced into prostitution for pay money is evil, what is the excuse of USA still use forced sex slaves from Korea?
http://www.seattleglobalist.com/2016/01/07/korean-women-freed-after-seattle-sex-trafficking-bust/46181

Btw, ex-Korean comfort women say Japanese military bombed on Seoul, yeah that's US military. They have dementia.

>>55122235
Yeah, I agree. I just don't like it when people say they deny the comfort women were a thing when they just say it wasn't them directly.

>>55122452
Now that we have cleared that up, I just want to thank you for keeping civil even in this heated discussion. Good night

>>55122649
Good night, thanks for the discussion.