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Must suck having to sit next to potential terrorists and poor people all the time because you can't afford a car.
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>>55106154
yes ok
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>le difference between europeans and americans so funny XDDD
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>>55106154
>poor

Usage of public transport runs me the equivalent of $170 a fucking month.
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>>55106154
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>>55106248

I pay $30 a month for car insurance and about $100 for gas. Wow.
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>>55106305
You also spend 2 hours per day stuck in traffic
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It's a practicality sort of thing. New York couldn't survive without the subway. It's also cheaper, faster and much more convenient driving.

Driving is a massive pain in the ass, why not walk and ride the train if you need to reach farther distances?
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but i always been told that using public transportation is 1st world attitude.
did i got meme'd
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>>55106399

Nope, that only happens in Brazil. Outside of cities like LA, Boston, or New York, traffic is comparatively minimal.
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>>55106154
.
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it's due city planning, their cities are old, crammed and have narrower street and boulevards, making them more pedestrian-friendly and making public transport a more effective way of getting around, while yours are younger and more adapted to automobiles (possessing a car is almost a necessity in some us cities while that's never the case in europe)

it has nothing to do income, you find personalities and wealthy people take the metro and tram there
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>>55106460

>Living in Jew York City.

I feel awful for you.
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>>55106154
Try living in a city older than your entire country and we'll see how quickly you switch to public transit. Good fucking luck finding parking space and avoiding jams in your car.
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>>55106465
>Mfw I have a big benis and a car
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>>55106491
This african gentleman is right.
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>>55106502
New York is the only city in the country senpatchi
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>>55106154
TRUMP'D
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>>55106465
>hurr, I live im Manhattan and public transportation works for me.
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I don't think its the cars so much as the $8 per litre gasoline.
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>>55106613
thats a great shot
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>>55106502
What's the best place in America to live in?
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>>55106622
>Hartsdale, NY is Manhattan
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>>55106679

New England, Pacific Northwest, very select areas in the South and surprisingly enough California (far away from LA/San Francisco).
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>>55106745
San Francisco is good, Los Angelos sucks
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>Be American
>Only option to get to work is by car due to innefective public transportation
>Indebt yourself to maintain a vehicle and trade it in every 2 years for a newer model further indebting yourself
>Commute for 3 hours to work and 3 hours back in hughways clogged in traffic
>Finally get to work and get shot by a coworker

Why is America the world's greatest nation?
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>>55106679

New England. Imagine a far wealthier, far more educated, far better run Russia without churkas or byldos.
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>>55106834
Cars are cheap
Gas is cheap
Takes me 8 minutes to get to work

you were close tho...
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>>55106834
>>55106465
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I have a nice american car and use public transport. So I can afford both.
Delete this already.
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>>55106849
I wish i was there. How can I do that?
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>>55106849
Yeah once you leave the coastal college towns the people are dumb as fuck.
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>>55106834

>Things that never happened, the post.

Meanwhile, a more realistic scenario.

>Be Portuguese youth.
>Never get a job because the economy is terrible and is based off British tourism and Brazilian quasi-nostalgia.
>Can't afford a car because you're too poor.
>Will never be able to afford a family because you're too poor.
>Will die alone as a bitter NEET.
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>>55106849

New England is also full of homosexuals and Jews. It's the only part of the US more liberal than California.
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American public transport sounds like hell for what I've heard. Sucks to be you.
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In most of the real cities the public transport is actually more expensive then what would you give just for a petrol if there were no other payments and fees for parking and roads and entering different city zones and such.
The thing is, the public transport is mostly just faster and more convenient.
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>>55106960
Our dumb people are still more intelligent than half the country
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>>55106977
I would have to drive 6 hours to get to any public transport
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>>55106960

Not true, the Berkshires are really nice.

>>55106959

Get a job here and then move over, find a qt American chick, marry her and enjoy your new life in freedomland. Picture related, you can easily get a house on one of these lakes in the more quiet regions and watch the leaves changes colors in the fall.
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>>55107126

Leaves change colors*.

>>55106959

This is a very realistic house you can get if you move here Russiabro. A really cozy little home in a forest by a lake.
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>mfw cost of public transport in the entire city + it's aglomeration is 10 USD a month
Not euros fault american city planning is awful and a huge waste of space
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>>55106905
Funny you didn't deny the getting shot by a coworker part of the story
It's good that your commute is so fast though, I live in the city and use my car nevertheless but I'm lucky enough to live and work on the periphery so traffic isn't a problem. The city centres (older, narrower parts of almost any city here) get clogged very easily, especially now that Lisbon is becoming increasingly touristy and many roads in Old Lisbon are becoming public transportation and residents only roads.

ie. streets like this one used to be open to cars
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>>55107242

Sorry if we actually like living in houses and not cramped communist towers.
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>>55107126
Sounds great, but my education is far from being desired by american employers
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>>55106633
$5 nowadays after sales tax.
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>>55107362
Nice houses there
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>>55106633
>>55107458
Also that's per gallon.
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>>55107443

Education is free in Russia, right? Then just do something desirable there and pitch it to an American company. That or online date an American girl for a few years and marry her. Many Russians have fled your shithole and are quite happy here, Russian-Americans actually make more money than your typical American here. And you'll be making so much money relative to Russia you can always go back and have a hell of a time for vacations, etc.

Don't let your dreams be dreams, Russiabro.
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>>55107501
Shit glad you mentioned that, I was worried that was the price per litre
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>>55107501

I get mine for $1.40 a gallon currently.
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>>55107629
>Education is free
Right, but as a future lawyer I'll always be here

>American girl
A cutie from New England has a crush on me *fuckyeah* but I doubt she'd move here
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>>55106502
I don't.
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And now for some actual numbers.

The size of the road network in the US is 6,586,610 kilometers with 809 cars for every 1,000 people and the average driver covering 21,726 kilometers a year. With a population of 318,900,000 this means that American drivers cover a total of 5,605,093,000,000 kilometers a year, or 850,982 multitudes for each kilometer of road. This is by no means an actual trustworthy value, it's just meant as a relative point of comparison.

In Germany the size of the road network is 644,480 kilometers with 588 cars for every 1,000 people and the average driver covering 11,500 kilometers a year. With a population of 80,620,000 this means that German drivers cover a total of 545,152,000,000 kilometers a year, or 845,878 multitudes for each kilometer of road.

In conclusion, even though we have 27% fewer cars than Americans and each driver covers 47% less distance than in the US, our roads are very nearly exactly as populated as yours, and that's probably not even considering the plentitude of lanes on most American roads. It's absolutely foolish to expect us to drive even more given our circumstances.
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>>55107695
Good for you, I assume your work commute is also longer than 2.5 miles each way.
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>>55107501
>>55107458
maybe in germany, which somehow manages to have a lower cost of living than the relevant parts of the USA - but other countries in Europe?
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>>55106154
There is literally nothing wrong with public transport. It's fast and cheap.
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>>55108025

Ten miles, but don't pretend for a moment every German lives within 2.5 miles of their workplace.
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>>55107991
posters like you are the reason I love /int/
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Americucks are so poor they can't drive their own kids to school
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>>55108418
>british education is so underfunded, parents are forced to drive their own children to school
sub-saharan-tier 2bh
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>>55106959
Money.
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>>55107499
Cuba?
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>>55106959
https://www.usavisanow.com/how-to-write-a-national-interest-waiver-letter-of-support/
good luck!
Russians are bro-tier and are welcomed to USA with open arms.
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>>55108707
Seriously? An American dude calls us bro-tier? Damn, touching af.
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>>55108574
>gets injured
>free healthcare
>survives
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>>55106154
Well it's more a question of having history 2bh.

America has none so their cities can be optimized for the car whilst European cities often have to work around the fact they were founded before zoning and city planning was a thing.
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Taking a train to school everyday is great. The ride is 20 minutes, comfy and I have time to read.

Public transit is only shit when you can't sit down.
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>>55108828
>stand in dole line
>sorry, no dole money this month, its austerity time
>use butter knife to threaten your neighbor into giving you some marmite
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>>55108769
Dude, regular Americans love Russians. It's not just me, are you new to /int/ as well? Americans on /int/ all love Russia too. Most Americans with a brain realize that Russia is simply protecting its interests, and that USA has no place in Ukraine or even in Syria.

Remember when Turkey shot down the Russian bomber? All 4chan was backing up Russia.
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>>55109169
>>Remember when Turkey shot down the Russian bomber? All 4chan was backing up Russia.

That not because they love russia that's because they hate turkey. During the ukrainian crisis people were shitting on russia. Also all is a broad term that was just /pol/
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>>55109169
Daaaamn it's so cute to hear :3
I thought you hate us because of Hollywood movies memes etc. I mean on simple level between average people, not between governments.
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>>55109445
shut up heathen
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Public transportation is great.

There is little doubt in my mind that many of our societal problems are rooted in the fact that we've spent the last 60 years designing our communities around cars instead of people.
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>>55106154
True
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>>55109445
You shouldn't have shot the russian plane down.

>>55109574
Russians are cute desu senpai
:3
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>>55106154
- we have one of the best public transport systems in the world
- we are constantly drunk and we have strict drunk-driving laws (zero tolerance)
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>>55106465
>it's faster to take the train than to drive into the middle of manhattan
>this implies that public transportation is always better than cars
Gee who would have thunk it? That's why everybody does take the train from Westchester. It doesn't mean that it would be better to have public transportation anywhere.
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>>55106305
>$30 a month for car insurance
>not having full coverage w/ all the special shit like newer model year replacement, accident forgiveness, etc.
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>>55110931
The truth lies somewhere in the middle. It's impossible to ignore the benefits of the car especially after such a long time of using it, but it would be beneficial to engage in planning which reduces travel distances and can offer public transport or muscular transport as options.
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>it's cheaper to buy 1 liter of gasoline than pay the bus fare
What is really sad because I can't afford a car.
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I use public transport when:
- I know I'll be drinking so I don't want to drive to the place nor I want to pay for a cav(because why the fuck should I if I can get there faster with a bus/tram);

- when there's a lot of building and rebuilding going on in the ceter or near me and it's much faster to use it then to drive to work;

- when I'm hangover as shit and I know I got some % and I'd loose my drivers licence if caught.

:3

trams are love, trams are life
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>>55107001
that's not impressive at all
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>>55106154
Public transport is a lot more efficient than everyone using their own car, though. And it's pretty comfy too.
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>>55112566
>muscular transport
is that some hardcore german thing or...
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>>55113007
>drunk passangers

yeah, truly the best of Poland
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>>55113007
Trans/streetcars are shit. Rail shouldn't even be built if it's not going to be grade separated. Express buses do the same thing but are way cheaper to build.
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>>55113389
Capacity is the reason my friend.

Well it doesn't apply for american "streetcars" that's true, lol. Tiny american streetcar, big European tram.
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>>55113483
That's grade separated. Way to totally ignore the point.
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busses are comfy tbqh
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i can afford taxis
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>>55113585
wow you're a special case aren't you
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>>55113389
We got separate buslanes - "buspass" but it dosn't change much desu.

Remember that our cities were build 700, 1000 or more years ago so they're more cramped with historical city centers that were build with horses in mind and not lanes for cars.
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>>55113954
See, that shit is retarded. No faster than a bus but many times more expensive.
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>>55106154
The rate of car ownership is actually higher in Italy than in the US.
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>>55114365
dude, show me a city in Poland that was build 1000 or more years ago
even more, show me a Polish city where the structure of at least one single street is still the same for at least 700 years

also nice resolution of your picture

Huge majority of urban space in Europe is not older than like 200 years
And the smaller part which is older doesn't usually have any tram lines within them.

So stop writing nonsense for once, please. We know poland is amazing and ancient and stronk, but keep it for yourself
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>>55114576
Were it not for the automobile lobby and insane post-WWII urban planning, we would almost certainly have a more robust network of public transit, though probably not to the extent that Europe does.
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>>55114515
CAPACITY
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>>55114657
I live in a city where the structure(not most of the buildings) of the market square didn't change since ~ 1300.

>show me a city in Poland that was build 1000 or more years ago
Kalisz but it was prolly a shithole back then.
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>>55106154
>be me
>pendle between cities with train every day
>asylum center has opened in one of the cities the tracks goes by
>~15 africans enters the train every morning yelling their jalla jalla language
>cannot not think about what if one of them is a terrorist

There is literally no hideing places if one of them opens fire.
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>>55115012
well that's the market square, the very core of the city, I can agree with that
Is there a tram line on your market square?
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I can go down the road any time I want and walk into Hertz's and hold my head up high and say in a loud, steady voice, "Harry, I want you to lend me a Yaris. In fact, today, I think I'll have a Audi, for I am a Driver Non-Owner."
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>>55106154
Public transport is only for poor people is an America-specific mentality tbqh.

t. /n/-fag
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>>55109445
I for one congratulated turkey on their successful removing of russians
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>>55114515
Actually probably cheaper than a bus in the long run because it attracts a higher ridership and has a waaaaay longer lifespan
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>>55115298
Russians apparently share this mentality with Americans.
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>>55114734
This. Light rail can be longer and take on more passengers and only requires 1 driver, so you save on labour costs too.
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>>55115378
How does that work when all russians except the oligarchs are poor?
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>>55115110
There used to be pre war but not nowdays because of some old buildings(from XII centruy etc) that are still standing and due to a lot of things archeologists dug up like a barbican, outer defensive walls, tunnels etc. all of which can't stand the vibrations trams cause.
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>>55115458
>How does that work when all americans except the oligarchs are poor
Pretty clear symmetry, as far as I'm concerned
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>>55115458
They drive cars for poor people to feel more high class.
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I've never gone anywhere by public transport in my life. Unless you insist that aeroplanes are public transport.
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>>55115780
>there are Americans and Swedes that have never been on a train
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Urban Planning major here.

>Public transit is faster and more efficient when done correctly
>Cars are useful for rural and low-density communities
>American cities were designed around the car in the 1950s
>European cities were higher density, older, and had narrower streets in comparison
>American public transportation was sabotaged by a conspiracy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy
>New York is an excellent example of transit-oriented development, while Los Angeles is pretty much the exact opposite

Public transport also increases general public health because it facilitates more walking. Most Americans despise public transport because their existing systems are all terrible band-aid solutions. Who would want to take the train/tram when driving is twice as fast? Most of us don't realize the potential.
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>>55113868
same 2bh, I lyft to and from the office everyday

much better than driving and trying to park
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