>Tfw you want to move out of your parents' house because they are abusive but have no where to go and can't afford it
>tfw can't beat up dad
I'm just going to work as hard as I possibly can for like the next year and then just move out and never talk to them. Planning on getting my name changed and all that.
Physically and verbally throughout my childhood and currently.
The most recent was just now when they called me down to dinner then my mom had drank too much and started making fun of me in front of everyone and trying to aggravate me by sticking her hands in my face and laughing loudly at me whenever I tried to talk.
anon I just want some bros to feel feels with.
Is that so much to ask for? I just want someone to tell me it'll be ok and make me feel better about my horrible life. ;-;
20, and I haven't worked for a while, I am looking for a job right now though.
If I don't find one soon I'm just going to fucking lie on my resume, I just want to be a normal person and live on my own
If you don't want to get back at them, pack your bag and hit the road. Accept any job until you can get a normal job, even if it's cleaning toilets.
Try to work in a restaurant or something always in need for a start. Even if it's hard at the beginning, you won't regret it.
>I thought in USA and Canada people left his parents when they turned 18. Cause you have more opportunities to be free.
No one really does that. People leave after University if anything.
When you're 18 you can barely afford to live, and a very poor and terrible quality of life.
I talked to a recruiter but they seemed disinterested with me because I dropped out of hs and it didn't really seem like they were actively taking people, at least from the office i went to.
I might try a bigger office in Toronto.
Im 20 and i love my parents, i love living here too. But i feel like a complete failure and NEET because i am 20 and live at home, my friends even bully me.
I am studying and can't really afford an apartement. But as soon as i complete my studies i will get into college and then i will have an apartement.
Any tips for me?
I'm going to stay with mommy or daddy until at least 25ish. I'm not falling for the apartment meme. I'm only moving out when I have the money to make the down payment on a home and pay a huge chunk of the mortgage.
we all 20 here senpai.
Honestly my plan so far:
>Get in better shape
>Try to somehow make more friends(not sure how I'll do this)
>Get gf(this would be great, easy to split rent and would finally not be lonely af desu, but i don't think it's possible)
>Find new place to live
>Start some bullshit business
>Get gf(this would be great, easy to split rent and would finally not be lonely af desu, but i don't think it's possible)
>Find new place to live
>Start some bullshit business
You have some lofty goals. I hope it works for you.
Im thinking of starting a retro arcade.
Kids love video games, and its a good way for people nowadays to communicate with videogames in real life.
It will have Snes and old consoles too, play an hour sort of thingy.
I think it would be great.
There are currently no arcades in Sweden.
How about Canada and US?
>like what? I've thought of online shit but I'm very lazy.
Some online shit.
I dunno, lots of stuff. Maybe make some Instagram and Twitter accounts and get them really popular then do affiliate marketing.
Maybe make some fake gofundme
Maybe do freelancing bs.
Yeah I've got no clue how I'm going to get them done.
I feel as though if i got a gf and some friends I would get much more motivated and actually have a support group who could help push me instead of just being lonely and sad all the time. Ya know?
Sometimes I just want some friends to talk to and express my feelings.
Doubt it'd get very popular desu.
New games have pushed all of those ones out and it's really too big overhead for little profit.
Kids will not be paying over $5/hr to play and they'd want some child-friendly place, not your home. I don't think it would work desu. Everyone's got a PC, laptop and a smartphone or ipad nowadays.
>Im thinking of starting a retro arcade.
I have literally thought of just this but kids today are too into their smartphones and tablets to give a shit about arcades
>I feel as though if i got a gf and some friends I would get much more motivated and actually have a support group
It takes a lot for that. Sometimes I feel it's a game that I never got the rules to so I'm just watching from the sidelines.
>Sometimes I just want some friends to talk to and express my feelings.
Yeah same. I have friends but they seem well adjusted while I just pretend to be well adjusted. It's easy to get friends, difficult to find someone you can tell your worries or feelings to. I spoke to some friends yesterday and I just wanted to tell them, one especially whom I knew for a long time, how alone I felt, but I couldn't do that.
I hope you find a friend like that, who can help you out too.
You are probably right.
One can dream though.
Whats good about Sweden is that the goverment loans you out money if you want to start a buiseness.
Its very simple.
Its not the money i worry about, its that i live in a relatively small town.
>It takes a lot for that. Sometimes I feel it's a game that I never got the rules to so I'm just watching from the sidelines.
I know feel, or at least i think I do.
>I hope you find a friend like that, who can help you out too.
Man sometimes I take the bus downtown and on the bus I see all these qts and bros who look like they would be great friends for me. I'm so fucking lonely dude. I just want some friends, any friends.
All my life since a certain age I've never had friends, they either used me for some shit or we never got close. Fucking sucks man.
i don't know what the fuck to do. I am considering just going up to people and starting a conversation with them and if they reciprocate I will tell them I have no friends and would like to hang out with them sometime. Would that even work?
I know that feel but you know what.
get the goverment to bail you out go to job center and tell them that you feel unsafe and home and want help getting out of home because its holding you back finding a job or what ever
my mum was a neglectful fuck and doesn't give a shit about me all my life now she's trying to do it to her grandson (my son)
I'm pissed to hell with that bitch
your family picks on you because they care
My mum didn't give two fucks about me or my son
Fuck the family
Move out you get more money at any rate, all you need is moving costs and a bond for the rent and some shit job and car that pays the rent and food and car to get you around places even a shitty car just don't get a car with motor problems.
>your family picks on you because they care
She has always treated me like shit and pretty much fucked my life up. I completely hate her, any time she shows any sort of affection it's always fake and she just goes back to being a bitch 15 minutes later.
>Anon can you please help me with ___?
>Help her with it
>Thank you anon :)
>Literally that evening starts humiliating me in front of everyone and laughing in my face about some dumb shit
>What if you go bankrupt?
If you go bankrupt they take all your shit and sell it.
Not so popular, people view bowling as an "party" thing, like if your kid has a birthday etc.
There is only 1 bowling spot in my town and its integrated with a club.
I see people outside and I wonder what they did. What choices they made to be where they are. But I also wonder what sacrifices they made and if I made more sacrifices than a lot of people.
But no that won't work. Friendship is like currency. People are not willing to part with it easily. Even the friends I have or the people I know sometimes don't feel like friends. Some stopped talking to me. Some I feel like they have no idea who I am other than what I presented to them. But what they all have in common is they ended up finding people who love them very much, some of them even breaking up and finding it again immediately after. I'm someone who has never been on a date, let alone been with anyone.
I moved out at 23.
living in an apartment isn't everything it's cracked up to be. fucking neighbors making noise, you have a bunch of responsibilities to deal with, when things happen you have to deal with the landlord, it's fucking expensive.
It has it's good sides, but it feels like a lot of hassle for not much.
Damn, I wish you were here, I need a roommate.
We could be bros and party during the weekends and talk while I make my models
I want to do it senpai.
For $700/month or whatever it's well worth not living in my shitty fucking house.
>Damn, I wish you were here, I need a roommate.
>We could be bros and party during the weekends and talk while I make my models
plz take me chile bro.
I am a nice man.
I am quiet, I don't smoke, I don't drink, I don't do drugs. I am just very lonely and depressed. I would help with household chores and keep the apartment very clean.
If you ever want to come, I'll let you stay in my place, I can even let you sleep in my bed, I have slept in the shower or even the floor, no worries.
You might want to come to study here, a lot of foreign friends who were depressed changed their ways and now they are enjoying life
You should get your HS diploma online and then move to China and make stacks teaching English. Worked for me, I was making $2000 US monthly + free accommodation in a shared condo with other foreign ESL teachers 6 months after I finished my diploma via Ontario provincial government's (mostly) free online high school system.
>If you ever want to come, I'll let you stay in my place.
If i ever plan on coming to Chile i will make a thread, ok?
>I can even let you sleep in my bed, I have slept in the shower or even the floor, no worries.
We can sleep together in the bed, no homo. Why would you sleep on the floor or shower?
>We can sleep together in the bed, no homo.
Literally homo. If you ever suggested that in America, guys will think you're a massive fucking queer faggot trying to do shit to them while they're asleep.
that's just typical mum things bro that's nothing to write home about.
you don't need reasons to move out at 20 just build up courage and move out. it sounds like you are ready to make your own life and i;m not just saying that because I, myself am a dad its because i been though the hard desision to move out unforunately for me i was kicked out my mum illterlty just dumbed my shit out side and told me to fuck off because she was fucking someone i didn't like and she was jelly of my gf and that we where stable and my mum was a fucking mess,
I know that feel except it's my younger brother who is a cunt and my parents are doormats. He screams about inane shit all day and whines all of the time. I'd beat the shit out of him but it's not worth going to jail (he would definitely report it to the police since he's a huge pussy without an ounce of dignity).
Just be active on /int/ about a year from now and i will make a thread asking about you, if you are asleep or something i will just make another thread later.
Not like we will ever leave this godforsaken place anyway.
>You should get your HS diploma online
Yeah I'm doing that rn bro. It's great.
>then move to China and make stacks teaching English
I heard this is kind of hard nowadays, at least on 4chan I've heard a lot of people say they now want a degree and it's really not so lucrative. I would if I had an opportunity to though.
>You might want to come to study here, a lot of foreign friends who were depressed changed their ways and now they are enjoying life
I would, but that's a long stretch, I don't even have my hs diploma yet.
I would depending on costs, I might look into it.
>Why didn't you go to university or at least college?
I had literally no friends and got bullied, eventually I stopped going to class altogether and then dropped out.
I would like to go to University though. It's one of my biggest dreams.
I'll make an account and add you, but i won't be active, i will only use it when i have questions for you, ok?
are you active?
>Just in case you wanted to be more comfortable
My mom did that before too.
She started destroying my things and packing all my shit up into a garbage bag to kick me out. Don't rmemeber what happened to make her stop, i think it was my dad or something.
>you don't need reasons to move out at 20 just build up courage and move out. it sounds like you are ready to make your own life
I have no means to.
I have $20k CAD, no hs diploma, no degree, minimal work experience, very little skills. I just don't even know how to survive.
Is there any chance we could ever live all together?
Imagine having a 4chan 3-man meme squad all together.
It could work if you guys aren't mega-degenerates.
Although I feel like someone would steal shit from the house or some other sneaky shit considering the average 4chan user.
We would need to somehow all prove we are not degenerates
Yes. Tomorrow I'll be at home (I'm in some fishing lodge now, using my phone)
We'll tie things together and start talking or sending mails
Hahaha, least I could do after you coming here
I would love that. I want to move from here once I finish college.
I'm studying Architecture if you are wondering
Honestly though I'd probably trust you guys as long as you didn't look like criminals or heroin addicts.
I have nothing much to live for anyway, if I were to get murdered by you it's not big deal I suppose.
>Although I feel like someone would steal shit from the house or some other sneaky shit considering the average 4chan user.
>We would need to somehow all prove we are not degenerates
make a list of degenarate-less stuff so we can see if we are degenerate.
what is viewed as "degenerate"?
I have literally thought about this.
I only need skills in teaching itself though and a diploma to show legitimacy of my capabilities. Does it recquire a Bs in english if you want to teach in non-shitholes of Asia like South Korea, Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong or Taiwan?
>I would love that. I want to move from here once I finish college.
I have $20,000 Canadian dollars. How long would that last me in Chile?
I suppose I could live there for a while
Just be a normal person m8
>Fucking hell. So you're saying it's only easy to get an ESL job if it's shitholes like SEA and China?
Even that might be kind of hard.
Do more research but I remember looking into this a while ago and although I don't remember details i remember coming to the conclusion that it is not really possible in most cases.
>You can buy a small house with that, you can live here with 500 usd per month including rent
Should I unironically move there for like a year or something? Is it nice to live there?
I was considering Argentina or something because Buenos Aires is beautiful but Chile seems like almost the same thing.
>Is it nice to live there?
Dude, ya kidding?
chile seems based but idk if i could survive if they are literally all brownskins
i-is that Chile?
Why is it so cheap to live in these countries if they look so good and seem so developed?
>If we get to together we can become chads and fuck bitches instead.
>TFW you'll never have a gangbang with your /int/ bros
>I live in Viña del Mar
Looks really cool, like all of Chile and Argentina that I've seen.
What the fuck gives?
How do these supposedly poor places look so good?
will I get robbed for being a Gringo whiteboi
Holy shit nigga. I might be coming sooner then expected.
Just don't rape me when i sleep pls.
>Dudes, you don't have to be gay
hahaha if only lad
>Holy shit nigga. I might be coming sooner then expected.
me fucking too dude
Wtf! How do supposed shitholes look so fucking good
I swear I'm moving to Chile/Argentina some day soon. This place seems like a forsaken paradise
there are loads of shitty ESL jobs across the globe
but if you don't have a degree, it's almost impossible to get a job outside of SEA and Japan. if you don't want to work in Asia, it's almost impossible to do so without also having a teaching licence/degree/certificate, or at least a B.A. in English. this is even true of South America and Africa.
the ladder is also shit. places won't pay you more unless you're officially qualified and recognized as a teacher, and it's often hard to climb the ladder without a master's in English or teaching.
really, ESL teaching is for recent grads to go to China and make business contacts, then become expats that manage import/export. it's not a permanent career direction.
>Chile is close to first World m8. Pinochet did fuck up, but they recovered quite well.
But wasn't Pinochet a based commie killer?
>Chile is not a shithole lad.
>Its 42nd in HDI.
True but I never even thought anywhere in that part of the world was actually decent and safe. It's pretty surprising.
>Does it hurt to take it in poopoo?
I wouldn't know and probably never will
>True but I never even thought anywhere in that part of the world was actually decent and safe. It's pretty surprising.
This is what is wrong with us Westeners
We believe everything outside our countries are barbarians living in caves.
We are very egocentric.
I dont mind teaching in Asia. I just dislike places like China and would rather not end up in fucking Cambodja. Im perfectly fine with Japan or South Korea though.
I could also throw off some time to get a certificate or a B.A (pretty sure its 3 years, which is perhaps too much for me to throw away). But the teaching would only be something I'd to do for 2-4 or something, which I doubtfully believe is too little time as it seems more of a choice of career than a life experience.
Viña has almost no crime. It's quite fun but if you like alcohol, parties and dancing, you can go to Valparaíso, it's literally 10 minutes away from Viña. It's also quite colorful and fun. Tourists love Valparaíso.
I know a guy who lives in a place of his own (a studio apartment) on SSI (less than $750 a month) with no transportation except a bike or public transportation, so an entry level full or even part time job should be enough to live on one's own.
At least in burgerland. I don't know how minimum wage in Canada compares to cost of living there though.
Dude look at
This shit is amazing.
I like the zoo the most.
You had me at hello.
By the way will I be able to get a qt there? Do they like whitebois?
my father kicked me out at age of 19. im still a neet, but because i have a semi perfect face and strong cock.my gf pays EVERYTHING since then , im 23 now and the only thing i do to pay her back is sec not even do the dishes. She is a old time girl and one year younger then me, i some times feel bad but she is happy
Qts love whitebois
Pic related, we liked each other but we didn't said anything until we already had a gf/bf
>I think if you wanna move there youd have to have an online business rather than work a job there and get paid much lower wages that even out those cheap prices
Yeah of course.
Seems easy with the internet nowadays. Can just do soem webdev shit and make $1500 easily a month and live well.
Cool man. I really want to move there, seems amazing.
What are the average prices for stuff? Like how much does it cost for internet, rent, to eat for a day, etc?
A decent internet+phone+cable costs around 60usd
Food and stuff for the month costs 150usd
Rent depends, you'll see prices rangibg from 140usd to 2000usd. A house with 3 rooms and 2 bathrooms and a pool costs 500-600 usd
Transport is cheap if you're a student, 35 cents
A car costs nearly 7000 usd
Beta? well she works for me, all i do i go out witsh friends , internet , drugs and sex (she's fine with this), Every single paycheck goes to my account, my word is the only and final word in everything. All she asks in return is atleast 2 orgasms a week, i dont even do house chorus. I love being BETA my friend
Ok I will definitely look into it more and I very well may come to live there for 3 months or something this year.
Seems like paradise desu. In fact I'm going to start learning Spanish right now.
>tfw alberto barboas has a gf that does everything for him while i'm fucking all alone with no friends, no gf, no nothing
Life isnt fair
Dont be like that, i have traveled Europe ( Paris, Oslo and Viena at my gf expenses, but i have been to more places). Let me tell you everywere ive been i was well treated (because you know im western and white). Dont be a idiot im seriously good looking, intelligent and a literal sex God, it has nothing to do with your ethnicity . You just cant compete
If you ever want to contact me through interpals, I posted my name earlier in the thread.
I'm going to sleep now, have fun lads
Pic is from the south of Chile, Ralún
>I doubt anyone would know some random Latin American University
Does everyone in Canada know about every single Canadian university?
>Does everyone in Canada know about every single Canadian university?
Actually they do know about the main ones, if they're from that province(which they would be considering only BC and Ontario is really relevant in Canada, along with alberta to a lesser extent)