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Why the FUCK didn't they just wait 38 more years???
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>>55009772
Why do you care? You've got your own church.
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You guys can't have a decent world without us fixing everything
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this sounds pretty important
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>Russian church
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnVwoDAkRTw
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>>55009772
What, because your autism?

Is the schism really over? This is good news for Trinitarian Christians I suppose.
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>>55009830
>church
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>>55009853
Forgot link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-35565085
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>>55009972
imagine how strong the church would become if the schism was mended
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>>55010071

>two powerless entities merge

It would be as strong as a big, powerless entity. Only subhuman spics and slavs care about the Catholic and Orthodox church.
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>>55010133
meh, you and your country have gone down the degeneracy road long ago, i don't really give a damn about your opinion on religion.
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>>55010159
Ibrahimic religions are degenerate too
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>>55010133
Assblasted proddy detected
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>>55010133
And your countrys culture is dying because you dont care about them
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>>55010212
shut your mouth you punic scum
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>>55010159

Yes, by degenerate you mean that my country went down the "successful road".

And before you call my country degenerate, you subhuman monkey. You and your subhuman compatriots literally elected a man who was known for his orgies and fucking underage prostitutes. Such is the """brain"""" of an Italian greasemonkey.
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>>55010268
at least our country isn't drowning
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Christianity is weird.

I don't get it.
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>>55010222

My country's culture is doing fine, you subhuman slav. Your country's culture is getting raped by foreign invaders, you should be begging Putin to bring you some culture again.
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>>55010294
it's drowning in Anglo cum
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>>55009772
Cause we'll all be dead by then, you dingbat.
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>>55010295
do good, belive in God
that's pretty much it
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>>55010322
oh you
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>>55010294

it's drowning in EU denbts
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>>55010295
>Christianity is weird.
Yes.
But Jesus' teachings are very simple.
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>>55010381
too bad that our debts are internal, not external, we owe no money to the EU
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>>55010306
>Your country's culture is getting raped by foreign invaders
>96% ethnically Polish with the remainder being other EU citizens
>Netherlands is 8% people born outside the EU and only 80% actually Dutch
Is this b8?
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>some ex-KGB fucktard involved in countless crimes meets the pope
big deal, it will just make the Russian subhumans think they're important
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>>55010251
>catone
Did you make this pic
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>>55010428
you have no money to owe in the first place, my subhuman friend
>>55010450
>96% ethnically Polish
so 96% are subhuman slavic shits? got it. sounds awful.
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>mfw christfags
lmao
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>>55010518
>this level of unwarranted self-importance
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>>55010497
i got it from Apostrofare Catilina in senato facendogli sapere che ha rotto il cazzo

>>55010518
we're the 8th richest country in the world you weednigger
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>>55009772

Because Pope Francis does not have autism
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>>55010581
>facebook
Spero scherzi. Chiedevo perchè si dice Cato in English.
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>>55010251
cato would be ashamed that italians are following a caanite religion
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>>55010551
go back to lithuania or poland you toilet-cleaning subhuman slav
>>55010581
good for you, must be hard with a 60 million population and billions from the EU to help you subhumans build roads and shit
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>>55010330
>>55010391
Sure, but that's not what it's effects are though.

Most Christians go to church and worship a human sacrifice, and I think it's really Aztec-tier.

I don't think human sacrifices cure anything.
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>>55010268
>Yes, by degenerate you mean that my country went down the "successful road".

>getting cucked by moroccans is considered successful road in negerlands
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>>55010667

t. el Sharaawy, pure Italian descendant of Romans
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>>55010640
lo so che si dice cato, no che non scherzo

>>55010642
cato would have a lot more reasons to be ashamed, hannibal.

>>55010656
you sound so inhumanly butthurt
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>>55010268
"successful road"
Italy at its lowest is ten times more relevant and "successful" than the Netherlands at the height of their colonial empire.
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>>55010704
t. toothpaste
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>>55010391
nobody follows them
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>>55009772
What was the point of that meeting? Say some shit about how Christians get murdered in the Middle East and that's it? Seriously, what's the fucking point, they most likely won't do anything. They just wasted millions of Russian, Cuban and Italian tax dollars or something and then smoked some cigars and fucked some underage girls.
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>>55010750
>>55010761
>>55010787
>>55010787

aahahahahahahahahahahaha slavic-spic alliance
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>>55010381
>eu debts
>real debts
the eu financial system is such a balancing act that if people actually were forced to pay back their debts like greece than they would all fall with it
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>>55010830
ahahah butthurt toothpaste
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>>55010839

And we have now forced Greekshits to eat their own shit for the coming 5 years in order to pay back denbts.

Their girls are literally selling their bodies for the price of a sandwich.
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>>55010830
>being this triggered
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>>55010808
Yeah buddy. Yes it is.
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>>55010816
>underage girls
BOYS
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>patriarch of moscow
Literally who

Unless it's the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople doing the hugging and the kissing with the pope this little affair is completely pointless
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>>55010452
that's a bit rude
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>>55010750
Yeah like : Worshiping a dead jew/beleiving in old semetic myths instead of roman legends/punishing people who disobey some retarded Aramaic book that got changed countless times ...
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>>55010963
i was not talking about religion, maharbal.
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>>55010956

russians are subhumans tho

I pray to God that you will starve to death tBh
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>>55010859
>>55010896
Quit bullying aquamancers, their cops are bro tier, you can easily have over 50g of the herbal jew on you when crossing the border and they just let you through.
The only problem with the Netherlands is that both escorts and whores are more expensive than here, thanks to all the fucking tourists going there.
>>55010931
BOYS BOYS BOYS
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>>55010956
but true
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>>55010992
Don't worry lad by 2017 russia will go bankrupt and implode.

Unless of course putin manages to break up the EU before that.
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>this buttblasted Niggerlander ITT
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>>55010992
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>>55011055
Putins master plan:
>Fuck up syria
>Millions of refugees go to Europe
>EU countries stop the schegen agreement to stop flow
>UK leaves
>France leaves
>EU is kill
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>people unironically caring about leader's of a sect actings
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>>55011210
>* *
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>>55011210
This desu
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>>55011209
You forgot
>EU is kill
>sanctions are kill
>establish bilateral economic relationships with all former EU states
>can bully the smaller states all he wants
>make mad money with big countries
Perfidious
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>>55011394
D E V I L I S H
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>>55010939
Even tho Bartolome (and every Constantinople's patriach) is considered primus inter pares, he has only like 10-20k followers. Kirill has 120 of the 200 million orthodoxs under his influence
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>>55010808
Yeah, ofc, kid.
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>>55010452
>>55010992
Nope, Russians are roaches
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>>55011655
That is completely irrelevant though. He's the head of just the russian orthodox church and doesn't represent anyone else of the orthodox faith. The only one who has the legitimacy to represent the faith ecumenically is the ecumenical patriarch, hence the name.

Why everyone is pretending the opinion of a putins handpuppet is relevant in any way is another question in itself.
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>>55011728
>Bы cлышaли, чтo cкaзaнo: люби ближнeгo твoeгo и нeнaвидь вpaгa твoeгo. A Я гoвopю вaм: любитe вpaгoв вaших, блaгocлoвляйтe пpoклинaющих вac, блaгoтвopитe нeнaвидящим вac и мoлитecь зa oбижaющих вac и гoнящих вac
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>>55010071
Lastt time I visited my local Orthodox Church, the Father said there was going to be a great symposium with the leaders of all Eastern Orthodox Churches, and representatives of Rome, to discuss this very subject.

From what I heard there is goodwill on both sides to review the problems that caused the schism (which were more political anyway, the Byzantine Empire wasn't very popular even with the current Orthodox peoples)
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>>55012340
кcтaти этo пиздeц
зacтaвляют cлyжить
нo им мaлo зacтaвить cлyжить
нyжнo eщe и нacильнo cвятoй мoчoй oкopoпить
a пoтoм мы yдивляeмcя пoчeмy poccиянe тaкoe быдлo, ecли их кaк cкoт пoльзyют
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>>55012340
Holy shit, that picture is hilarious
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>>55012340
in english
>You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[i] and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you
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>>55012441
whats worng with soldiers believin in God, u chunk
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>>55012441
just orthodox things
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>>55012534
love thy neighbor
When someone slaps you , turn the other cheek

?
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>>55012534
they don't believe in god, you stupid donkey.
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>>55010268
>you mean that my country went down the "successful road".
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>>55009772
They basically just had a chat. What's wrong with people? Nothing was really done.
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>>55012585
Slap my ass and I'll bend over bby
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>>55009853
Lenin's spinning in his grave
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>>55012164
>any patriarch
>representant the whole orthodox church

That's not how it works, every patriarch is independent.
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>>55009772
This will gradually lead to unification of the churches. None can survive on its own in the next century.
Catholic Church is the only true Church of St. Peter, its time for others to recognize its authority.
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>>55012595
did you ask them?
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>>55012441
If it weren't for SJW we would be doing the same.
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>>55012595
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>>55010816
>millions of Cuban tax dollars
lel
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>>55010656
typical Hollander: loud and dumb

shame is something completely alien to you, isn't it?
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>>55012620

>Lenin
>religion
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>>55012657
nobody ask them. the whole military regiment build in a line and sprayed with water. I was in the army unlike you
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>>55012345
>symposium

Did he mean the orthodox sinodum at Crete?

Rome is allowed to send representatives there?
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>>55012751
Not him, but he was born a jew (majority of Bolsheviks were).
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>>55012811

I know, but it doesn't matter Leninism still was atheist
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>>55012534
hypocrisy. tolstoy was right
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>>55012751
That's what I meant

100 years after the revolution the Russian Church is still around, and back on top again
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>>55012620
>lenin
>grave
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>>55009772
autism
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May Jesus bring back the glorious Holy Roman Empire, just without women in positions of power.
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>>55010659
>I don't think human sacrifices cure anything.

I think you confuse it with European pre-christian paganism.

Celts used to cut open the belly, and from the convulsions and the way the guts fell out they read the wil of their gods.

Germanics threw people in bogs, anyone that deviated from the norm, like women who couldn't get children, or fags.

That's why neo-paganism is so meme-tier. Before Christianity Europe wa pretty awful. The Romans, you know the ones who watched gladiators kill each other on a regular basis, banned the Celtic druid religion around 50 BC because it was "too cruel and inhumane". So that's saying something.

Christianity wasn't bloodless, but compared to before it brought civilisation in Europe to a whole new level. It teached people to discern between Good and Evil, and to have respect for human life. The symbolism of a Saviour sacrificing Himself for the sins of mankind is a pretty powerful symbol. It doesn't matter if you don't belief the sacrament of bread and wine holds any real power, it is the ymbolism that counts.

That is why I like wnat the bogomils thought about Christ. They considered Jesus to be the human, who became Christ through the Word. So Christ was born from the ear, and was a purely spiritual being. Jesus may have been crucified, but there is no way that Christ could have been.

These views are still alive today in Bosnian folklore, probably also in Serbia and Bulgaria.

They already knew 1000 years ago that the symbolism of the miracles of Christ is most important, therefore it is not really relevant whether they happened or not. That was quite a powerful thought for those dark days, and probably why they were considered heretics, amongst other reasons. They thought of themselves as to be the original Christians.
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>>55013125
Roman Empire > HRE
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>>55010816
If you look at it this way, then anything they do, no matter what, can be considered wasting tax dollars/euros.

That' just an empty propaganda technique that can be universally applied by any opposition.
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>>55013125
Kingdom of Jesus is only within, not in any form of earthly empires
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>>55013200
Agreed.
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>>55012776
So what? For the faithful soldiers it is important, and for the atheist soldiers - just another traditional ritual in army
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>>55012778
>orthodox sinodum at Crete?

That could well be, it was a couple of months ago, he said the goal was to try unify the different Orthodox churches, and to open talks with Rome with the eye on possible re-unification.

He said Rome was willing to go far with this new pope.
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>>55010330
>do good, belive in God
Why should i believe god to do good?
More of this, religious people always aggressive and evil.
Religion is a good thing for all kind of evil assholes to excuse self for their assholish dids.
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>>55012894
Tolstoy was himself a convinced Christian. You do mean Lev Tolstoy, not Alexej Tolstoy right?
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>>55012776
lol
God bless you son
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>>55013481
>Religion is a good thing for all kind of evil assholes to excuse self for their assholish dids.
So THAT'S why the moscow patriarch is going around the world going "russia dindunuffin he a good boy"
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>>55013342
You read the Gospel of Thomas?

Or do you have bogumil ancestry? xD
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>>55012628
First you're saying the patriarch of moscow can represent all of orthodoxy but now you're claiming they're all independent and no one can speak for the faith. Make up you mind you dumb nigger. Doesn't change the fact that the russian asshole has no auithority to start mending schisms.

Besides autocephaly is not the same thing as independence.
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>>55010306
hey that's my line
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Crusade when
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>>55013670
Neither? I'm a true gnostic although I don't favor radical dualism of things.
Bogumils have (they still exist) cores of truth, but so does every other branch of Christianity.
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>>55010251
he's right and I'm even surprised that he didn't allah ackbared.
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>>55013861
>First you're saying the patriarch of moscow can represent all of orthodoxy

No, I said he represents 120 of the 200 million orthodoxes, retarded mongoloid. I.E. the majority of the orthodoxes will follow him if he decides to commulgate with Rome.

He is the most powerful leader in the ortho church, wether your butthurt towards Russia likes it or not
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>>55012441
>not wanting holy damage buffs
Do you even cheese when crusading?
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>>55012697
>If it weren't for SJW
Separation of church and state is one of the absolute cornerstones of your country.
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>>55013983
My friend <3 so am I! How did you become gnostic and which gnostic current inspired you the most.

I am also a moderate dualist, btw.

Bogumils still exist you say? Tell me more please, I am fascinated by them.

I knew paulicianism survived until the late 19th century at least in Armenia, they were named Thonraki, and passed the Secret Book (the Key of Truth), and from the look of it they have been doing so, covertly from generation to generation, since the 8th century. You can find a copy on archive.org
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>>55015573
t. vandalbelg
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this took a turn for the worst
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>>55013633

Well, Russia did nothing wrong in Ukraine, fuck kockholes and fuck pro-western crap, but you're right.
Moscow patriarchate is a corrupted organization and esencial part of Russian corruption in general.
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>>55013983
What you said, the Kingdom of Jesus being within and not in the form of any Earthly empires, is pretty much what Jesus said in the Gospel of Thomas, one of the gnostic gospels found in the Nag Hammadi library (the ones found in Egypt in the 1945 in a vase buried in the sand, hidden there by early gnostics) :
http://gnosis.org/naghamm/gosthom.html

The Gospel of Thomas is most interesting as ithey are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke and Didymos Judas Thomas recorded. They are genuine, most of it was written between 50-100, all before 200 AD. There is a lot of intertextuality with the Gospel of John. The Gospel was known at the time Constantine composed the Bible, but considered lost (or it may simply have been ignored because its message doesn't really support the creation of a hierarchical Church-State)

One part that goes directly against the creation of an Earthly empire that Christians need in order to be saved is:

>77. Jesus said, "I am the light that is over all things. I am all: from me all came forth, and to me all attained. Split a piece of wood; I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find me there."

If you are not familiar with it, I recommend you strongly to read it. You'll be delighted.
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>>55015980
<3
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>>55016264
best poster desu.
I remember some posts about Franks, were these yours as well?
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>>55016306
Yes, some of them, but there is another Belgian Frankboo here, who is also a jew.

My main topics of interest are Belgian antiquity/Franks, Slavs/Wends and gnosticism/bogomils.

I have maps of Europe in Antiquity, Germanic and Slavic migrations and Belgian tribes hanging in my bathroom, to meditate upon every time I go to the toilet :-)
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>>55016602
good lad.
post that y-dna/haploshit map about pollacks, western slavs and vandals if you can.
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BTW Bogumilism is the most Slavic branch of Christianity, not Orthodoxy as some suppose.

It emerged shortly after the Christening of the Slavs, and the link with their previous pagan believes was closer than Trinitarian Catholicism. There are records of bogumil elements surviving in both West- and East-Slavic countries. I have notes on this.
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>>55016895
>Bogumilism
Based Baznians
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>>55016802
I had several, there a Y-DNA subclade specific for Poles, and mtDNA that shows that West-Slavs and Nordics basically had the same wives for quite a while. I'm still compiling the info.

>>55017029
For this part of their history I will always respect them greatly. A Bosnian gave me the email of a local professor who specialises in bogumil history. I asked for local legends and folklore that is centered around christian dualism and their bogomil past, it is said there are many.
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>>55010058
>Touching the cross with your left hand

HERETIC
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>>55017442
>Y-DNA subclade specific for Poles
Speaking of which, I just realized Croats really are related to Poles while we Slovenes share haplogroups with Russians.
It boggles my mind how come we are so eastern. The history speaks of a migration from Moravia to the eastern Alps but apparently those people came from the far east of the Slavic lands.

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>>55016895
I live a few km from a village called Bogomilovo.
And Bogomil is still a popular name.
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>>55012628
No one is independent. They do Synods and decide.
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>>55017442
>For this part of their history I will always respect them greatly
Same here. Too bad the pressure from Catholic and Orthodox side was so intense, those bogumils are now modern muslim Bosniaks.

Monthly reminder that you should write a book and let us know when it done, Belgianbro!

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>>55017806
>Bogomil
Of course it's an old Slavic name meaning "graceful to god(s)"
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>>55017442
I'll wait.
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>>55010963
>Tunisians forgetting they WUS ONE OF US
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>>55017723
>>55017843
There are some maps n shit, showing Croats and Serbs living in the same lands as Polans, Vandals, Czechs n shit.

So they might be related. Our chronicles say that they're just Pollacks that went south to buttfuck the Romans and stayed there.
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>>55017723
Yes Croats are very related to Poles, their original homeland, White Croatia, is in Poland. And Slovenes were one of the tribes that found the Russian federation, they gave the Slavic language to the Wends.

>>55017806
Bulgaria has such a rich past, it was where the heresy started and spread over the whole of Europe. Man, I would like to travel all over the Balkans just for that. There are still descendants of Armenian paulicians living in Bulgaria and ex-Yugoslavia.

>>55017843
>>55018300
I really will, I try to work a bit on it every day. Before this thread I was thinking of making chapters of all the notes I have now. For the haplogroup stuff I asked someone from eupedia for some help in interpreting. And I have access to most academic journals :)
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>>55010159
>>55010222

>Polan and Italy telling off North Europe master races
>3
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>>55010330
Should I also believe in astrology, fire-breathing dragons and giants? They're all in the religion as well.
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>>55010391
>Jesus' teachings

Too bad that's not the only thing, desu.
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>>55018876
Appreciate it
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>>55018876
>And Slovenes were one of the tribes that found the Russian federation, they gave the Slavic language to the Wends
Sauce pls. I know there was a tribe called Sloveni in the north of Russia but does it really make a connection with us Slovenes?

I always thought it's just a common Slavic thing calling ourselves (simply) Slavs, that is Slovenci, Slovinci, Sloveni, Slavonci...
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>>55019732
Sloveni and Finno-ugrics created the most bydlo mixture there is. Eastern Barbarians.
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>>55009772
>Pope breaks 962-year split with Russian church
But it's not broken, there's still a schism.
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>>55010133
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>believe in God
>god doesn't exist
>after your death nothing happens, among the living you're remembered as a good person

>believe in God
>God does exist
>after your death you are welcome in the kingdom of Heaven because you were a good person your entire lifetime

Believing in God almighty is a win:win situation
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>>55009772
men in funny clothes that believe in ghosts
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>>55013125
Brazilian Germaneeaboo added to the list of reconised /int/ posters.
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>>55023113

at least it's not lesbians in funny clothes that believe in moderate islam
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>>55013190
>Implying the Inquisiton was not 10x worse.

>Implying Greco-Roman Paganism dis anything wrong

>Being this fucktard
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New Crusades when?
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>>55023814
What would happen if Isis killed the Pope?
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>>55010058
they just talked
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>>55023900
ISIS wouldn't exist within 24 hours.
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>>55024045
What if...
Inside job?
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>all the edgy atheists and butthurt protestants itt
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>>55024045
Really though? What would happen? i'd love to see millions of Latin American and African devout Catholics on a crusade throughout the middle east but I imagine everyone would just say how shocking it was, a few muslims say #notinmyname, maybe a film gets made and then everything goes back to normal.
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>>55024511
Realistically yeah, probably what you said would happen, along with some shill saying "Fighting isn't what Francis would've wanted" or some shit.

Or, it could push people over the edge and start WW3.
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>>55009853
looks like new vip- version of adidas suit. Slav church. Feels good
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>>55024489
Why would an atheist be butthurt about two old guys meeting?
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