Why the FUCK didn't they just wait 38 more years???
Yes, by degenerate you mean that my country went down the "successful road".
And before you call my country degenerate, you subhuman monkey. You and your subhuman compatriots literally elected a man who was known for his orgies and fucking underage prostitutes. Such is the """brain"""" of an Italian greasemonkey.
too bad that our debts are internal, not external, we owe no money to the EU
>Your country's culture is getting raped by foreign invaders
>96% ethnically Polish with the remainder being other EU citizens
>Netherlands is 8% people born outside the EU and only 80% actually Dutch
Is this b8?
go back to lithuania or poland you toilet-cleaning subhuman slav
good for you, must be hard with a 60 million population and billions from the EU to help you subhumans build roads and shit
Sure, but that's not what it's effects are though.
Most Christians go to church and worship a human sacrifice, and I think it's really Aztec-tier.
I don't think human sacrifices cure anything.
>Yes, by degenerate you mean that my country went down the "successful road".
>getting cucked by moroccans is considered successful road in negerlands
t. el Sharaawy, pure Italian descendant of Romans
What was the point of that meeting? Say some shit about how Christians get murdered in the Middle East and that's it? Seriously, what's the fucking point, they most likely won't do anything. They just wasted millions of Russian, Cuban and Italian tax dollars or something and then smoked some cigars and fucked some underage girls.
And we have now forced Greekshits to eat their own shit for the coming 5 years in order to pay back denbts.
Their girls are literally selling their bodies for the price of a sandwich.
>patriarch of moscow
Unless it's the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople doing the hugging and the kissing with the pope this little affair is completely pointless
that's a bit rude
Yeah like : Worshiping a dead jew/beleiving in old semetic myths instead of roman legends/punishing people who disobey some retarded Aramaic book that got changed countless times ...
Quit bullying aquamancers, their cops are bro tier, you can easily have over 50g of the herbal jew on you when crossing the border and they just let you through.
The only problem with the Netherlands is that both escorts and whores are more expensive than here, thanks to all the fucking tourists going there.
BOYS BOYS BOYS
>EU is kill
>sanctions are kill
>establish bilateral economic relationships with all former EU states
>can bully the smaller states all he wants
>make mad money with big countries
Even tho Bartolome (and every Constantinople's patriach) is considered primus inter pares, he has only like 10-20k followers. Kirill has 120 of the 200 million orthodoxs under his influence
That is completely irrelevant though. He's the head of just the russian orthodox church and doesn't represent anyone else of the orthodox faith. The only one who has the legitimacy to represent the faith ecumenically is the ecumenical patriarch, hence the name.
Why everyone is pretending the opinion of a putins handpuppet is relevant in any way is another question in itself.
>Bы cлышaли, чтo cкaзaнo: люби ближнeгo твoeгo и нeнaвидь вpaгa твoeгo. A Я гoвopю вaм: любитe вpaгoв вaших, блaгocлoвляйтe пpoклинaющих вac, блaгoтвopитe нeнaвидящим вac и мoлитecь зa oбижaющих вac и гoнящих вac
Lastt time I visited my local Orthodox Church, the Father said there was going to be a great symposium with the leaders of all Eastern Orthodox Churches, and representatives of Rome, to discuss this very subject.
From what I heard there is goodwill on both sides to review the problems that caused the schism (which were more political anyway, the Byzantine Empire wasn't very popular even with the current Orthodox peoples)
кcтaти этo пиздeц
нo им мaлo зacтaвить cлyжить
нyжнo eщe и нacильнo cвятoй мoчoй oкopoпить
a пoтoм мы yдивляeмcя пoчeмy poccиянe тaкoe быдлo, ecли их кaк cкoт пoльзyют
>you mean that my country went down the "successful road".
This will gradually lead to unification of the churches. None can survive on its own in the next century.
Catholic Church is the only true Church of St. Peter, its time for others to recognize its authority.
If it weren't for SJW we would be doing the same.
>I don't think human sacrifices cure anything.
I think you confuse it with European pre-christian paganism.
Celts used to cut open the belly, and from the convulsions and the way the guts fell out they read the wil of their gods.
Germanics threw people in bogs, anyone that deviated from the norm, like women who couldn't get children, or fags.
That's why neo-paganism is so meme-tier. Before Christianity Europe wa pretty awful. The Romans, you know the ones who watched gladiators kill each other on a regular basis, banned the Celtic druid religion around 50 BC because it was "too cruel and inhumane". So that's saying something.
Christianity wasn't bloodless, but compared to before it brought civilisation in Europe to a whole new level. It teached people to discern between Good and Evil, and to have respect for human life. The symbolism of a Saviour sacrificing Himself for the sins of mankind is a pretty powerful symbol. It doesn't matter if you don't belief the sacrament of bread and wine holds any real power, it is the ymbolism that counts.
That is why I like wnat the bogomils thought about Christ. They considered Jesus to be the human, who became Christ through the Word. So Christ was born from the ear, and was a purely spiritual being. Jesus may have been crucified, but there is no way that Christ could have been.
These views are still alive today in Bosnian folklore, probably also in Serbia and Bulgaria.
They already knew 1000 years ago that the symbolism of the miracles of Christ is most important, therefore it is not really relevant whether they happened or not. That was quite a powerful thought for those dark days, and probably why they were considered heretics, amongst other reasons. They thought of themselves as to be the original Christians.
If you look at it this way, then anything they do, no matter what, can be considered wasting tax dollars/euros.
That' just an empty propaganda technique that can be universally applied by any opposition.
>orthodox sinodum at Crete?
That could well be, it was a couple of months ago, he said the goal was to try unify the different Orthodox churches, and to open talks with Rome with the eye on possible re-unification.
He said Rome was willing to go far with this new pope.
>do good, belive in God
Why should i believe god to do good?
More of this, religious people always aggressive and evil.
Religion is a good thing for all kind of evil assholes to excuse self for their assholish dids.
>Religion is a good thing for all kind of evil assholes to excuse self for their assholish dids.
So THAT'S why the moscow patriarch is going around the world going "russia dindunuffin he a good boy"
First you're saying the patriarch of moscow can represent all of orthodoxy but now you're claiming they're all independent and no one can speak for the faith. Make up you mind you dumb nigger. Doesn't change the fact that the russian asshole has no auithority to start mending schisms.
Besides autocephaly is not the same thing as independence.
>First you're saying the patriarch of moscow can represent all of orthodoxy
No, I said he represents 120 of the 200 million orthodoxes, retarded mongoloid. I.E. the majority of the orthodoxes will follow him if he decides to commulgate with Rome.
He is the most powerful leader in the ortho church, wether your butthurt towards Russia likes it or not
>not wanting holy damage buffs
Do you even cheese when crusading?
My friend <3 so am I! How did you become gnostic and which gnostic current inspired you the most.
I am also a moderate dualist, btw.
Bogumils still exist you say? Tell me more please, I am fascinated by them.
I knew paulicianism survived until the late 19th century at least in Armenia, they were named Thonraki, and passed the Secret Book (the Key of Truth), and from the look of it they have been doing so, covertly from generation to generation, since the 8th century. You can find a copy on archive.org
Well, Russia did nothing wrong in Ukraine, fuck kockholes and fuck pro-western crap, but you're right.
Moscow patriarchate is a corrupted organization and esencial part of Russian corruption in general.
What you said, the Kingdom of Jesus being within and not in the form of any Earthly empires, is pretty much what Jesus said in the Gospel of Thomas, one of the gnostic gospels found in the Nag Hammadi library (the ones found in Egypt in the 1945 in a vase buried in the sand, hidden there by early gnostics) :
The Gospel of Thomas is most interesting as ithey are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke and Didymos Judas Thomas recorded. They are genuine, most of it was written between 50-100, all before 200 AD. There is a lot of intertextuality with the Gospel of John. The Gospel was known at the time Constantine composed the Bible, but considered lost (or it may simply have been ignored because its message doesn't really support the creation of a hierarchical Church-State)
One part that goes directly against the creation of an Earthly empire that Christians need in order to be saved is:
>77. Jesus said, "I am the light that is over all things. I am all: from me all came forth, and to me all attained. Split a piece of wood; I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find me there."
If you are not familiar with it, I recommend you strongly to read it. You'll be delighted.
Yes, some of them, but there is another Belgian Frankboo here, who is also a jew.
My main topics of interest are Belgian antiquity/Franks, Slavs/Wends and gnosticism/bogomils.
I have maps of Europe in Antiquity, Germanic and Slavic migrations and Belgian tribes hanging in my bathroom, to meditate upon every time I go to the toilet :-)
BTW Bogumilism is the most Slavic branch of Christianity, not Orthodoxy as some suppose.
It emerged shortly after the Christening of the Slavs, and the link with their previous pagan believes was closer than Trinitarian Catholicism. There are records of bogumil elements surviving in both West- and East-Slavic countries. I have notes on this.
I had several, there a Y-DNA subclade specific for Poles, and mtDNA that shows that West-Slavs and Nordics basically had the same wives for quite a while. I'm still compiling the info.
For this part of their history I will always respect them greatly. A Bosnian gave me the email of a local professor who specialises in bogumil history. I asked for local legends and folklore that is centered around christian dualism and their bogomil past, it is said there are many.
>Y-DNA subclade specific for Poles
Speaking of which, I just realized Croats really are related to Poles while we Slovenes share haplogroups with Russians.
It boggles my mind how come we are so eastern. The history speaks of a migration from Moravia to the eastern Alps but apparently those people came from the far east of the Slavic lands.
pic, Polish-Croatian R1a
>For this part of their history I will always respect them greatly
Same here. Too bad the pressure from Catholic and Orthodox side was so intense, those bogumils are now modern muslim Bosniaks.
Monthly reminder that you should write a book and let us know when it done, Belgianbro!
pic, Slovene-East Slav R1a
There are some maps n shit, showing Croats and Serbs living in the same lands as Polans, Vandals, Czechs n shit.
So they might be related. Our chronicles say that they're just Pollacks that went south to buttfuck the Romans and stayed there.
Yes Croats are very related to Poles, their original homeland, White Croatia, is in Poland. And Slovenes were one of the tribes that found the Russian federation, they gave the Slavic language to the Wends.
Bulgaria has such a rich past, it was where the heresy started and spread over the whole of Europe. Man, I would like to travel all over the Balkans just for that. There are still descendants of Armenian paulicians living in Bulgaria and ex-Yugoslavia.
I really will, I try to work a bit on it every day. Before this thread I was thinking of making chapters of all the notes I have now. For the haplogroup stuff I asked someone from eupedia for some help in interpreting. And I have access to most academic journals :)
>And Slovenes were one of the tribes that found the Russian federation, they gave the Slavic language to the Wends
Sauce pls. I know there was a tribe called Sloveni in the north of Russia but does it really make a connection with us Slovenes?
I always thought it's just a common Slavic thing calling ourselves (simply) Slavs, that is Slovenci, Slovinci, Sloveni, Slavonci...
>believe in God
>god doesn't exist
>after your death nothing happens, among the living you're remembered as a good person
>believe in God
>God does exist
>after your death you are welcome in the kingdom of Heaven because you were a good person your entire lifetime
Believing in God almighty is a win:win situation
men in funny clothes that believe in ghosts
>all the edgy atheists and butthurt protestants itt
Really though? What would happen? i'd love to see millions of Latin American and African devout Catholics on a crusade throughout the middle east but I imagine everyone would just say how shocking it was, a few muslims say #notinmyname, maybe a film gets made and then everything goes back to normal.
Realistically yeah, probably what you said would happen, along with some shill saying "Fighting isn't what Francis would've wanted" or some shit.
Or, it could push people over the edge and start WW3.
looks like new vip- version of adidas suit. Slav church. Feels good