Thinking of going to study in Estonia. Tallinn University of Technology's Integrated Engineering, to be precise.
I don't know anything about Estonia besides polandball stereotypes, a bit of history, and free public transport in Tallinn.
If anyone could give me some idea of anything at all, I'd be grateful.
Also invited: Finns, /balt/, anyone who's been there
>tfw estonians are the only europeans with the balls to use violence on middle-eastern shitskins
Tallinn is obviously a really nice place, at least the old town. I spent a week around the country as well (well mostly the coast and saaremaa) and it's kind of dead elsewhere and you can feel the weight of the soviet union.
The old town in Tallinn is the most beautiful place I ever been in though. The people there are nice, like finnish people. A bit ugly to look at that but it's an honest kind of ugly. Like an ugly potatoe that tastes great and will nourish you.
how white do you look? eastern euros don't like sandniggers.
I-I'm not even religious senpai
I could pass for white (but look like a spic) in the USA. In Germany I might be mistaken for a Turk. That kind of skin. My dad's skin is pale, like nordic pale.
I will be your best friend
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I don't understand you guys. I get not wanting refugees because they come and sit on welfare and rape your women but I'm making an attempt to get an education in your country and later contribute to your economy and technological infrastructure. I know Estonia is 70% atheist, and that there are more pagans and Muslims there. That's one reason it's attractive for me. I am irreligious so I won't culturally enrich your country as a sandnigger normally would. I'm interested in learning your language as well. This meme has gone really far
I took a picture, currently uploading. Will post when it's ready
In what ways?
Thanks a lot pierre-san
Russians always just yell FASHISTI NAZI OOGA BOOGA
When they are literally the most fashist nazi country.
Cracked me up during the Ukraine shit when both sides cllaed eachother FASHISTI NAZI OOGA BOOGA WE DUMB AS FUCK :DD HELP pls
I was thinking about going there to study too
We could be friends, Egypt-kun
Northern Africa is historically European, you illiterate swine
He already said he's not religious
Non-religious Arabs/berbers/levantese are top tier Americans. Steve Jobs was literally half secular MENA.
It's such a sad situation that Islam is garbage tier and misguides otherwise great people.
There is literally nothing wrong with secular MENA immigrants.
Doesn't look very European, you potato nigger.
Well, in all honestly, he can go to Estonia. Just don't come here pls.
>they carry out parades of nazi legionaries (who're still alive) every year
Is this what the Russian media really say? There has never been such a thing.
Have you ever heard about arab spring for example? Egypt was conquered by bunch of mudslim niggers a long time ago.
Are you.... stupid?
There's difference between a nazi legionaire parade and a parade of war veterans that fought for Lithuania in general. You're never gonna see a nazi flag or a swastika in a parade like that.
Besides, you hold parades celebrating the red army and shit like that, so you're not any better.
My arm is pic related. It's a little bit darker in person I guess but it depends on the lighting
I would if it wasn't expensive as fuck (or if I found a decent English language BSc program in Germany)
Also I'm hoping that performance on /int/ isn't a real indicator of a country's culture
I too would celebrate whoever fought for my country's independence to be honest.
You'd be either killed or harshly harassed, Estonia dislikes foreigners, they despise middle-eastern foreigners. You can be the most secular/atheist middle-eastern, but guess what? the guys that are going to beat the shit out of you aren't going to bother asking.
Stop being retarded, there are multiple countries in europe that you can go to and you want to go where you're least welcome, during a refugee crisis no less, they barely tolerate russians.
You can be a dreamer and dream about having a great education, landing a good job and marrying a beautiful eesti qt, or you can stop being retarded and move to belgium or the UK.
Not that any of this matters because you're not getting in anyway.
>You'd be either killed or harshly harassed
Definitely wouldn't get killed, and most likely not harrased if, especially in Talinn. Even here in Lithuania we have a large amount of students from Nigeria and they say they like it here.
4chan is not real life.
Still don't come here pls.
>Even here in Lithuania we have a large amount of students from Nigeria and they say they like it here.
That's because you're africa :^).
jokes aside, I'm not just saying this out of memes, just a couple of days ago soldiers of odin attacked some muslims. I can't find the article right now since it's in estonian, but here is the one where they set fire to the refugee center. It's pretty clear they're not wanted, and even if most people were ok with it, that's not going to stop the guy that's actually going to attack muslims.
Yeah, they tried to burn the refugees, and refugees are very different from academic immigrants.
Besides, if we're gonna count attacks on muslims or refugees, Germany or even UK are both more dangerous than Estonia.
Estonian men joined the German army in order to fight off the brutal Soviet occupation that was happening. The minorities ''oppressed' are Russians that want Estonia to be part of Russia again and throw temper tantrums about it.
FUGGING SHITSKIN!!!! HANDS OFF ESTONIA!!!!!
Yeah, but that's not really racism by definition, because we are indeed of the same race.
Yes, all I'm saying is just that there are quite a few of brown or black students in the universities here and they don't really seem to complain. Some even become popular, because they look exotic.
>brutal Soviet occupation
If soviet "occupation" was brutal, so how can we describe nazi occupation (with whom balts collaborated, having commited numerous crimes against civilian population)?
OP, it will be ok, Tallinn is nice and has a lot of tourists so you wont stand out that much. People in the capital are open-minded. Estonian qt's will find you 'exotic'. You are also not religious so that helps. There might be unwelcoming people outside of the capital, they don't seem to like 'outsiders', definitely ones that look like arabs/blacks. The country is tech-oriented and small, so new ideas get implemented fast, unlike bigger countries. A lot of opportunities. Estonians are socially a bit autistic though, like Suomis, so expect cold and seemingly rude people at first. After they get to know you, you will be BFFs.
Are Estonians as protective of their women as >>55009361 implied? I thought Arabs were like that just because of islam islam but it seems to be more universal than that
imagine you are sitting at your comfy home, with your GF and dog. Some guy barges in, kills your GF and wants to loot your home. Then another guy, a notorious dog-killer, runs in your house and kills your dog and also wants to loot your home. The rapist and dog-killer hate each other. So what do you do? Do you whimper in the corner or do you join forces with one of the bad guys in order fight off another bad guy? Either way you have no dog, no GF and your house gets looted in the end.
> The minorities ''oppressed' are Russians that want Estonia to be part of Russia again and throw temper tantrums about it.
There is a real problem. Basically Apartheid regime in a country of European Union.
30% of latvian population are russians. Latvia will close all russian schools. Meanwhile fennoswedes (~5% of finnish population) have swedish language as state language.
>30% of latvian population are russians. Latvia will close all russian schools. Meanwhile fennoswedes (~5% of finnish population) have swedish language as state language.
This is exactly what so called european vaues are.
Germans weren't brutal to an average joe here. They even allowed our flags to be flown for which Stalin killed people. They were very brutal against commies. Germans paid for food, knocked on doors, kept themselves clean, etc. Unlike Soviet Russian animals who even took a dump inside our people's kitchen or living room because they had never seen an oven before.
Sweet, thanks for that.
How true is the "Estonians are autistic/xenophobic" meme? I'm not expecting US-tier extroversion but how easy would it be to make friends/acquaintances/etc?
And if the answer is "Estonians are indeed autistic", then are foreigners treated differently or everyone just gets used to it?
They've burned down those immigration centers in Finland as well, but you can still be a foreigner and study here without "getting killed". Sure, there will be some racist cunts you might encounter, but considering you're mainly going to experience the academic world, you'll most likely meet more accepting and open minded people (at least in Finland).
Honestly, it's baffling to witness a Chilean telling Balts about their countries, as if you knew jack shit. Unless you mentioned you're a Balt on holiday and I missed it.
Finland-Swedes have lived there for a thousand years and are regionally perhaps even indigenous. Meanwhile the Russians in Latvia came in the 1980s as illegal immigrants during a military occupation. Moresol, they are partly citizens of Russia, so they should fuck off back to Russia.
> be baltic
> genuinely hate ~30% of your population
> fear of russian invasion
What the fuck do you expect? Love and respect to latvian government when this government treats you like a dog?
I think you missed the point so I'll help you out
>the Russians in Latvia came in the 1980s as illegal immigrants during a military occupation. Moresol, they are partly citizens of Russia
Russians in Russia are being treated like dogs. That's why the Russian in Latvia won't fuck off to their Russia.
They have more rights than people in Russia, they have more wealth and higher standards of living than Russians.
Am I supposed to believe in such kind of stories you tell every time speaking about "brutal and blood soviet occupation"?
They are citizens of Russia. They visit Russia. They buy booze and cigarettes from Russia.
Because they're not fucking citizens. The "hurr durr oppression" are all Stalinist commie fucks with Russian citizenship or an alien's passport. Which means they can't bother to learn the Latvian language in order to obtain citizenship.
If they're "second class", that's because they're not fucking citizens.
I see, do you have to pay for it?
Honestly, if you care about having a good diploma (to find job), I think you should go to a German or British university. I don't know how prestigous the Tallin university is, but I am sure there are better ones in Germany, especially for engineering.
If you have the chance, I think you should consider it.
The program itself is free, aside from application/living costs/etc. It's why I'm more interested in TTU than British unis, and German universities with my intended program are almost all UAS, not "universities" per se.
Treated poorly in what way?
Did somebody say, "ayo Russkie fuck off"? Doesn't happen.
Couldn't get a job? Maybe you lacked language skills.
Didn't get free apartments and government handouts? Because it's not Stalinism.
People just treat you differently once they learn that you are Russian. This even happend in the Estonian embassy in Germany to me.
Also, I think it is not a coincidence that there are no high ranked politicians with russian background in Estonia
No, you lot are retarded because this is what the "muh oppression" Russians whine about. They want the government to give them free things.
Aren't there really? Really? Maybe its because they have integrated and speak Estonian fluently? We have many Russian ministers. Our foreign minister is part Russian.
>I think it is not a coincidence that there are no high ranked politicians with russian background in Estonia
Probably because at this point Estonians realized that Russians shit everything they touch
>They want the government to give them free things.
Nothing is free, even in USSR you had to work to get something, so your statement regarding "free things" just revealed your ignorance.
youre fucked bro
i have a friend (lady) with swarthy skin and black hair, really attractive. She was in Tallinn for some university project for her course (geography or anthropology type stuff) and she got a bottle thrown at her at a bus stop. She was only there for 5 days.
Gentlemen, please cool it..
Why do Lithuanians have their panties in such a knot over the idea of me going to Estonia?
Like they give a shit it's not really free. Tallinn has free public transport because of them. They like to get free potatoes from the mayor and then elect him.
Can I go to Moscow and elect Moscow's mayor?
>Tallinn has free public transport because of them.
because of whom?
>Like they give a shit it's not really free.
Tell me who are given free things since I dont exactly understand what you're talking about.
Anyway, you seem not to be very happy about existence of "free" things.
I didn't read the whole string of posts, but I just want to say that nothing is free.
If Talinn didn't have a free public transport system, they would probably be paying less taxes.
It's not free. That's the whole point. But they, "oppressed Russians" want free things and don't even care how it will be paid for. The taxpayer pays the bill. They got free apartments and shit here during the Soviet occupation, that's what they want. Special treatment.
It exists because of them because they elect their potato mayor with ties to Kremlin.
>They got free apartments and shit here during the Soviet occupation,
So much ignorance in one sentence. I guess it's useless to continue my discussion with you. Trying to think rational definitely is not for you.
>People just treat you differently once they learn that you are Russian
They don't. You probably just have confirmation bias.
>Also, I think it is not a coincidence that there are no high ranked politicians with russian background in Estonia
Because all of them are pro-Russia and want Baltic state to become puppets of Russia.
If he made it, then you probably will too.
Shameful because you faggots got your asses handed to you by a bunch of underequipped mooseherders? Russia is the shittiest of the shit tier countries ever, you should all just move to Africa, you'd like the degeneration and violence there.
I find Southern Europeans, Slavs and Middle-Easterners annoying to be honest. I dot know why... they're just way too temperamental for me and don't respect other people's personal space.
For example, if someone wants to ask something from you in the street, they usually start the sentence with "Excuse me...." to kind of apologize first for breaching their personal space.
Also, I know that many Estonians are very diplomatic when thay talk to other people. They rarely say what they actually think. You have to understand when they want you to leave and don't say that directly. Otherwise they'll get fed up and tell you just to fuck off or might do something even worse.
If you are calm, introverted and usually fail to express emotions, then you'll kinda fit in. I'd guess that if you were here, you'd feel like people don't pay attention to you or you would just get weird looks because of your appearance.
It will take a long time for a foreigner to get used to it and get some Estonian friends. We won't open up easily, but once you've proved yourself as worthy of our company, you might get a friend for life.
Since I don't know what kind of person you are, I can't say how are you going to do here. I know some people who are considered foreigners here even though they have lived in Estonia for years. And I know some people, who kinda fit in from the start.
>Tallinnfags are nice
I have always considered Tallinn an unfriendly place. I remember the first time when I went to a bar at night in Tallinn, I saw a guy who got fucked up really bad, blood was literally everywhere.
>I know Estonia is 70% atheist
It's a meme, you know. Non-religious doesn't mean atheist. And I think that Estonians only have problem with worshipping stuff, they just find it kinda humiliating. And a lot of Estonians actually believe in other spiritual stuff.
Also, Estonian paganism is very interesting too. It kinda reminds me Japanese Shinto.
>Thousands of people making up stories how the German soldiers were civil and Russian slavniggers acted like degenerates (still do).
Then again people also made up stories about the lolocaust, so you might be on to something here Ivan you dumb nigger.
>Also, I think it is not a coincidence that there are no high ranked politicians with russian background in Estonia
On a similar note it's very suspicious that there are no high ranking politicians of German background in Japan.
Looks amazing, I'm feeling a strong urge to enrich the place.
Soo manyy egdelorde here, nothing will happen to you, they are just baiting...Whities thinking they are though.. Estonia is just like any other white cuntry: liberal, faggy and open minded
OP I hope you find what you're looking for there and I hope you find some beautiful, pale, blonde Estonian girl and impregnate her with your arab seed.. pls
And dont forget to post on /int/ if you do it.
Estonia prides themself on their tech stuff but they are nowhere close to Israel
Israel is a worldwide leader in tech
Just go to a non meme country with a
Language spoken by more than half a dozen people that could be useful for your career, dumbass.