>>55011032 >Leftists Jews are traitors, we hate them too when we ware in control, the country flourished. ever since you guys got the power we are in decline. so stop calling your political rivals 'traitors' wake up and realize blind nationalism isn't good for the country.
>More recently, in fiscal year 2014, the US provided $3.9 billion in foreign military aid to Israel. Israel also benefits from about $8 billion of loan guarantees. If Jesus never existed, this wouldn't be happening
>>55012256 >get a chance to implement your ''peaceful'' policies >everething you were warned about happens and more Israelis die than in the war for independence, country is on a brink of civil war >no no we were not ''actually in power'' but please elect us again, and if we fuck up will just say that we weren't ''actually in power'' That level of denial. No wander every sane individual over 30 years old hates you.
But despite the vast majority of the New Testament being founded on Oral Tradition*, the sheer amount of stories about him floating around the Eastern Mediterranean after his death means he probably did
>>55012827 >Bombings started in 2000 You really need to be a lier to justify being a left faggot. Also, some guy goes to some place and all your complex theories about arabs just wanting half of jerusalem land and independence cramble. Do you even understand how retarded this is? Giving everething away to someone who is ready to kill thousands for trivial reasons? Fuck you.
>>55013185 Moses didn't exist. It's just a legend suspiciously similar to mesopotamian legends about Galgamesh. The relative historisity of the bible starts with the kings stories because there are external evidence of their existence and their time was closer in time to the period of the writing.
>>55013181 the conflict started before 2k, but the occupation was prevelant before the intifada first started. the pike itself happened after provocations on your side. please note that before 67 the casulties halted to almost non-existent.
if you think being touchy about jerusalem is stupid, you are in the wrong country. but the same way it is legit for isreal to be touchy about its holy places, so it is legit for palis to be.
Question for other jews. Do you ever feel like you can't follow Judaism because of how contradictory it's values are with some of its practices? I've been reading the Torah and the more I learn about my religion from it. The more dissolutioned I become towards it. There's some pretty fucked up shit in there.
>>55013519 >legit to kill thosands of women and children instead of accepting the peace proposal you always demanded because a jew visited jewdaisms holiest place. Fuck you Rashid, soon we will kick you to ISIS controlled Jordan to reunite with your family. You had you're chance for peace. Now taste war and loss.
>>55013620 Most of us don't follow judaism. We view Jews as a nation that happens to have a unique religion (like Indians have Hinduism). Doesn't make them less Indians for not believing in a elephant headed god.
>>55013730 some people didn't want peace at their side, same way some people at our side don't want it. tipping the scales in favor of the extremists by rustling primal jimmies at the masses and randering the leadership mute, and than placing the blame on the other side for being fucktards? do you really see nothing wrong in your views?
ok, let me spell it out- the people who didnt want peace used religion as an excuse to lash out. that does not mean they do not want peace or that peace can't be achieved, it just mean it was succesfully prevented by a joint act of the war happy on both sides.
>>55013965 Or a simpler explanation, they viewed negotiations as weakness again, and attaked. Now they ended up with nothing just like in 48, 67 and 2000. That was their last chance. Now it's over for them. This land was big enough for 2 nations to coexist but it's not big enough for a civilized country and barbarian savages to share. One will have to go away and will make it damn sure that it won't be us.
>>55014206 heres an even simpler explanation, god want to punish us for not converting to christianity. see, simple is not always correct. it might be a good explenation for people who don't like to use their head, but if you want to be taken seriously you need to use your brain.
we are as barbaric as they are incase you haven't noticed. religion and nationalism reign supreme here, and kalgasas with guns use any excuse to kill. it wasn't always like tthis, but this is how it is now, we are not a villa in the jungle, we are a cave ripe with moss with a cougar lurking in the corner. the jungle is upon us. those who live by the sword will die by the sword because death is the only outcome for war.
>>55013004 True, and I wouldn't blame someone for saying he never existed, but... >We have four "canon" gospels, written anonymously within the first century of his death. "Mark" probably being the most accurate, "Matt" and "Luke" being barely-accurate, and "John" being an artistic/propaganda piece >We have the gospel of "Thomas", a collection of sayings thought to be attributed to Jesus, many of which also appear in Mark and Matt. But it wasn't included in the New Testament because it portrayed a Jesus firmly against an arriving apocalypse/rapidly approaching "Kingdom of God" >We have the letters of Paul, a man who never met Jesus but met his followers ~10 years after Jesus' death. Though he had what can be best described as a "falling out", and at worst a mutual excommunication, with Peter and James over whether or not non-Jews could be Christians. The apostles believed that because Jesus repeatedly said he was only for the people of Israel, non-Jews would first have to become Jewish to follow Jesus in time for his second coming. While Paul said there wasn't enough time to worry about petty things like circumcision or conversion to Judaism, since they were bound to meet Jesus in the air soon. So gentiles had no need to convert to follow Christ. >There's also the long lost source "Q", which the authors of "Mark, Matt, and Luke" heavily borrow from >The repeated mistakes of syntax and plot development in "John" means the author probably just copied and pasted previous, now lost, writings on Jesus >etc.
So there's no "hard" verification of Jesus, but people don't usually make up this many stories about a man this quickly if he didn't exist. Granted the majority contradict each other and some are flat out lies (ie. Infancy Gospel of Thomas), but we can correlate a basic synopsis of plot through Matthew and Luke based on the works of Mark and Q
>>55007990 it's all gonna be allright mate. All is gonna be good. Everything will be solved out and rain will pour down. The land will be showered by rays of sunshine. The sky is blue and the grass is green.
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