Justify in two sentences or less why your country isn't stepping up against a myriad of crimes against humanity (including but not limited to genocide) and systematic suppression of UN mandates.
I'm not going to because no one cares about Muslims.
Yeah at least they are safe in Germany. Thanks for that. :3
Both of you have no legal right to post in this thread. Your identity is nothing but a false-construct on stolen land.
Israel has a right to exist. Palestinians had a lot of chances to build a sustainable two-state solution but fucked it up every time because apparently Muslims can't go three minutes without killing Jews.
So instead of fighting to protect your country you ran away to the Netherlands to get welfare and cry on a forum?
I normally don't care about these things but if you won't protect your own land why do you want others to? Oh wait, you tried and failed and the result was conquest of your nation.
So Canada, Australia and the USA are all have no right to exist
but nevermind that, almost every nation on earth conquerd land from others. But sure, when it comes to you muhamMAD, it's "stealing".
First of all, this is not a forum but rather an anonymous image board. The difference in public opinion is subtle, but the practical reality in what constitutes a forum and a "image board" is immense.
Ran away from which country? I am a born Dutch, close to 6 feet 3 inches, have white skin and posses faded blue eyes. If I were from the occupied territories. I would indeed have ran. Though my will to die as a nationalist is great, my will to life is greater and therefore it is rather contradictory to stay and get slaughtered as practically you don't have a chance fighting against an oppressor who is supported by a party (the United States of America and its allies) with far more resources than you.
That would not have been a case of failure, but rather one of reality kicking in and dealing with the fact that you and the rest of your country its citizens are being systematically removed by a coordinated operation. "protect your own land" is thus a false statement, I would have been a human shield easily defeated by the aggressor.
Concluding, all of your states are false, taken out of context or simply illogical. Do you have any arguments which actually make the slightest of sense or do you rather take your loss and accept that you cannot justify why your country isn't stepping up against a myriad of crimes against humanity (including but not limited to genocide) and systematic suppression of UN mandates?
>no one cares about Muslims
This. They've been invading Europe for centuries and they're invading it right now with most insulting attitude.
If anything, we should declare war on them and keep attacking until they sign international agreement to leave all European and western countries alone.
A victim of war and concatenation of conflicts ignited by the United States and its allies is not called an "invader" but rather a "refugee". An invader or more formally "migrant" leaves his or her country at will, to seek better arrangement in a different country. The motivation is often economic and social improvement.
A refugee on the other hand, a refugee is a person who is outside their country of citizenship because they have well-founded grounds for fear of persecution because of their race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, and is unable to obtain sanctuary from their home country or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail themselves of the protection of that country.
They are not invading Europe but rather seeking asylum for their own safety.
My points are fine, Mahmoud. Israel got attacked by the united horde multiple times and were nice enough to not just genocide all those people who invaded. Israel has absolutely no reason to be compassionate when the BRITISH mandate of Palestine gave them some land and Muslims invade the next day then try to pull the old "dindu nuffin" when they were the aggressors. You reap what you sow, go back if you want to help fight them by throwing stones across the fence.
>Leave the middle east alone
Don't we? It's not like Christians are even tolerated in Middle East. Meanwhile Muslims get free stuff in Europe.
>well-founded grounds for fear of persecution
Exactly, this is something NONE of the millions of Muslims invading Europe right now have.
There are only a few Syrians among them and they could all stay in safe countries like Turkey. But they go all the way to Sweden and Germany welfare shopping, women raping, killing any Europeans that dare to speak in their own country and shitting kids to replace and genocide Europeans once and for all... to name VERY few of things they do here.
Not to mention most of these Muslims are military age men and our own media lies about them, which makes it very much likely those are here to kill us. Heavy propaganda is after all, a precursor to war.
This is quite a contradictory statement. The war they are fleeing from is not going to end overnight. We are looking at a 5 year effort to gain sustained peace. So in those 5 years you expect to keep their asylum status? They shouldn't integrate in the German society? What you get is segregation and a "we versus them" status quo.
What will inevitable happen is the like of ghettos, specialized schools, shopping centers and other constructions which force this segregation upon the German population. This is already evident from the various "little Morocco/Istanbul" city blocks you have. And those "migrant workers" of which you though would "fuck off", got children, were granted German citizenship and did not go back.
This is a chance to have those new batch of population merge into the Germanic, but you rather force asylum upon them and redo what you did wrong in the past? Because let's be honest there, those refugees are here to stay. Whatever will be there where they came from in 5 years, it will be even worse than the shithole it is now.
In fact, there is already made sustained effort to make sure those people have legal right to stay. They are breeding diaspora which will softly integrate into German general population giving them a hook to never leave your country again.
So why segregate them if objectively the better option is to integrate them? Because your "they will go back" scenario has been proven false numerous times before. You can't extend their asylum visa forever.
>this is something NONE of the millions of Muslims invading Europe right now have
Nice try. Pic related. One of the reasons they are fleeing is because the United States of America and their allies (including but not limited to Western Europe) are leveling Middle Eastern cities to parking lots. On the other hand, if they stay they will fall prey to Da3esh.
They are literally trapped in war fire.
>Christians are 10% of Egypt and large amounts in other countries, larger than the % of Muslims in European countries
This is LITERALLY the first link I got by typing "Christians in Egypt":
It's about Christians protesting against GENOCIDE in Egypt. GENOCIDE is the height of Muslim hospitality.
>Nice try. Pic related. One of the reasons they are fleeing is because the United States of America and their allies (including but not limited to Western Europe) are leveling Middle Eastern cities to parking lots. On the other hand, if they stay they will fall prey to Da3esh.
>They are literally trapped in war fire.
YOU - NICE TRY, you lying genocidal fucking scumbag piece of shit!
NOBODY is bombing Turkey, NOBODY is bombing Jordan, NOBODY is bombing a SHITLOAD of countries. But these people (very few of whom are even from Syria) are skipping all these countries and intentionally moving to Europe. They are NOT refugees! They are our future murderers! Nothing else!
>The Palestinians have never invaded Europe.
They were part of Ottomans that did. If these devils hold hostility towards Slovenia WHICH THEY INVADED SEVERAL TIMES for France or whatever bombing them, how could I not hold a grudge against evil Palestinian MURDERERS who were part of the same country that invaded us, not even simply associated, but the same!
Yes they fucking did invade us even by most strict standards than what they have for us!
You're an idiot.
You are too dumb to notice you are confouding the issues of "dealing with refugees" with "reasons for refugees". The US bombs places and makes them less economically viable, even after the war has ended.
Fucking Slovak nigger I swear.
>Why should the Palestinians give away any of their land?
Not even counting Ashkenazi there were always Jews in the Levant so it wasn't all Muslim land to begin with. Hence the Palestinians should have demanded it all from the start. They started something and got their teeth kicked in. I'm not a huge fan of Israel and think the settlements are B.S. but the Palestinians fucked up and continue to act like retards.
>close to 6 feet 3 inches, have white skin and posses faded blue eyes.
I'm fucking on to you Bashir al-Asad!
Also they don't need U.S. support because when they first fucked the Arabs up we weren't supporting them.
Just taking back what's ours from some invading Arabs. Nothing to see here except the majesty of history.
because we support Israel!
I don't give a fuck about Palestine
Look who's talking! Fucking brainwashed kraut! You people are the least sane Europeans ever.
Not only did Hitler side with Muslim, so do you now! You know damn well none of those murderous rapefugees need to go to any European country. You know damn well they hate us beyond any shred of doubt and want us all dead.
>you are confouding the issues of "dealing with refugees" with "reasons for refugees"
No, I'm not! You're simply too fucking stupid to get my point. Those "refugees" are invaders, it shows what Muslims are like. Hence Palestinians are SELF-DECLARED enemies of ours.
We can't deal with those refugees, because they won't let us, because they don't care about safety, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT REFUGEES!
>Leave the middle east alone
We've tried that but you inbreds do dumb shit like pick fights with Israelis, assassinate one leader to replace with a worse one or go to the old standby of oppressing everyone who isn't from your sect.
>Native Americans are also part of America, yet nobody would ever hate them for US war crimes.
Because they're irrelevant, you dishonest fuck. If someone conquered all the other people of USA, Amerindians wouldn't stand a chance.
>kill yourself now
That's your "argument", because you don't have one.
>One of the reasons they are fleeing is because the United States of America and their allies (including but not limited to Western Europe) are leveling Middle Eastern cities to parking lots
We're just bombing ISIS. Russians are bombing Aleppo but those refugees are on the Turkish border now and not in Europe.
>taking shit from Romans, Christians and Muslims for 2000 years for being jewish while preserving your identity
>no you are not really jewish because I said so
Weren't you supposed to go back to Iraq?
Why would we be a Kingdom in the 21 century? That's retarded.
They have equal rights. They vote, have parlament members, ministers and one of the supreme judges is muslim as well. Arabic is an official language.
I hope you're not German.
>Germany pays around 50 million USD a day to Israel, for all sorts of repartions
>by 2016, if you count in inflation Germany has paid more than 700 billion USD to Israel
Iraelis are sick people, they believe in "original sin", they believe Palestine belongs to them because "the Bible promised it", and we, the humanistic world are watching this.
Israel is digusting, and Israel is behind ISIS.
You're a retard. Go to /lit/ and read some books.
>some Palestinian dude lives on that land since thousands of years
>probably was even an original Jew, but converted to Islam
>some Ashkenazi Jew from the Caucasus comes to kick him out
>"Palestine belongs to Jews"
The issue is overblown.
The sum total of all deaths resulting from this situation is a bad day in Syria. It pales in comparison to the exploding region, which is why you never hear about it.
How come Fernando?
You are clearly a euro muslim. That's disgusting. I have pity for mideast muslims, they can't help where they are born. But to live in the west and remain muslim, shitting it up for yourself and everyone else, what an asshole.
>How come Fernando?
It didn't last for long though. Eventually, Christians managed to keep you in your place. There's a reason you're friends now. You learned your lesson.
If we didn't pay 50 million A DAY to Israel, we could hire some policemen to deal with it.
>a euro muslim
I'm an ethnic German, and I used to be a Catholic.
But nice to see that that's your only argument.
Because getting involved in the middle east brings bad luck.
Only people who support Palestine are either Muslims or ignorant, mindless leftists
The US really likes Israel. Many congressmen hope to use them as our Middle-Eastern lapdog, and our conversatives respect the Israeli government's muscular foreign policy and aggressive stance against Muslims living inside and outside its borders.
The Israel lobby is also very powerful, this being a huge institution made up of Israeli diplomats, Jewish Americans who are convinced that their "homeland" needs protection, and even far-right Christians who hope to usher-in the Reckoning.
We support Israel in a myriad of ways. Most obvious is the yearly expenditure, but this is actually not too large in the scope of the American foreign aid budget. The US government has pledged to support Israel in its endeavors almost unfalteingly, although liberal politicians try to coerce Israel into abandoning its imperialist policies.
This. I'm happy that some people still have the ability to think.
They try to make people forget it with their shitty propaganda. it makes it all more easier for them to be the ultimate sacrifice. As someone who comes from such a family, we settled and built our life instead of being butthurt for almost 70 years and do nothing with ourselves.
1. India was british too then?
2. So you wouldn't fight if 80% of canada was suddenly given to the some random people based on some millenia old stories?
3. does it matter who occupied them?
4. Apartheids created by israel indeed.
Yes, policemen deal with crime.
Sorry Jew, your Islamophobia-propaganda has failed here.
We won't be sending you money for long.
Saudi Arabia and Jordan won't be dictatorships for long.
You couldn't deal with Iran.
Russia has got Assad's back in Syria.
Have fun when the shit goes down. I'll be watching and clapping.
>implying Slovenia gets immigrants for you to bitch
>implying Slovenia fought the Ottomans for you to bitch
>implying Slovenia is devout Christian enough for you to bitch
You have no idea how cucked our foreign policy really is. We don't do shit without making sure that US, UK, Germany, France and Egypt are at least ok with it. All the talk is just for show.
Will you promise not to bitch about us taking more of your land when your btfo again?
>this train of thoughts
just stop existing, literally split into atoms and scatter it in air and become one with cosmos
The Kikes are im charge of The US.
We are a US Vassal now.
The past century-and-a-half has been marked by Western invasions of the Middle East, not the other way around.
Calling the current migration an invasion is also absurd, given that groups of Muslims aren't trying to establish independent polities in West like they did in the Middle Ages.
Well being invaded by the greatest western empire and kicked from our land and into europe as refugese is exactly how this begun for us 2000 years ago. History tends to run in funny cycles.
That's not imperialism It's game theory. We both claim that land. If they want a deal we can consider relinquishing it but they should know that by rejecting the deal they prolong the conflict. That costs us lifes (something we care about) but it will cost them land (something they care about). If this causes them to reach a partition deal faster, good. If they make us fight untill the end at least we end up with all of our historical land back and defencable borders.
You don't understand power politics vs muslims, liberal american, so don't interfere.
>SSA-admixed Ayyrab mudshits
That aside, I'm tired of having my tax money be spent on muh gorillion """reparations""" equally
Someone give me a good reason why we should support either side and not let them battle their kindergarten-tier sand tournaments down there on their own, grab some popcorn and completely take the spectator role
I would be a fool to assume what is right, and what is wrong in the grand scheme of the universe.
If there is no direct threat to my country, or its people, then we have no business forcing other societies to follow our policies.
It's hard to be in favor of Israel. Not because of the people or war crimes, that's nonsense.
But because backing them up you are invigorating a strong nation and competitive market near a vital resource. Personally, I'd rather have Israel in perpetual war.
46: That's all british land
47-49: UN plan rejected by arabs, every single neighbour country invades Israel and gets BTFO because arabs suck at war
67: Egypt mobilizes and prepares for war, their recently elected president ran his campaign on aggression against Israel. Israel preemptively attacks, takes down their whole air force in a day and takes the Sinai from Egypt and Golan from Syria. Israel returns the Sinai later.
I don't see what they're doing that's morally wrong.