Do they actually use French in this region or is it just a muh heritage novelty meme?
Do quenecs take pride in their language?
>mfw if Quebec were to actually separate they would lose a gigantic chunk of their clay because Natives are federalist.
Also French-Canadians living along the St. Lawrence were the first to call themselves "Canadian" since they developed a culture and identity distinct from continental France
The québécois french speakers seem to use english as much as a french speaker from France does, but in a different way.
For instance, they tend to use more frenchified names (for instance while we have "STOP" signs, they have "ARRET", or they say "téléphone intelligent" for smartphones unlike in France).
But I've also heard that they sometimes use english words when they communicate, such as "date" for rendez-vous, as an example. But I guess a québécois would have to confirm that.
The first major wave of Anglo immigrants were Loyalists fleeing from the US War of Independence. You also got a lot of immigrants coming from Scotland due to basically being kicked out so that their land could be used for farming (song related). The British encouraged Anglo immigration following the conquest of Quebec and revolutionary war in order to keep Canada secure from US invasion. Irish immigrants coming here because of the famine were another big wave.
After Confederation the government would basically accept anyone who would move out west and start farming, eventually people got racist and over time narrowed down the immigration requirements.
When you make the world's best beer, you can speak any language you like.
Are you serious?
Of course we speak 100% French.
We're closing down all english schools.
It's illegal to have a sign in English here.
We take great pride in our language.
It can go as far as beating up or killing an anglophone for talking shit about us.
Yeah you read me right, personally I wouldn't take 25 (years) for an anglo but some of our people can go hard as fuck.
I'll take 6 months for beating one up any time though. Jail is like vacation.
Especially on our national holiday, the St-Jean-Baptiste, we get drunk and rowdy.
>But I've also heard that they sometimes use english words when they communicate
Yeah this or they Frenchify English words, like parté from party instead of soirée or fête, chiller from to chill instead of relaxer/détendre etc
Also i've heard several use the word "joke" in a French sentence
Here is a neat map of immigration, you can really see the west getting settled.
Don't forget to mention La guerre des berceaux
After the failed rebellion of the patriots, we started breeding faster to make sure we weren't outnumbered by anglos
Retard here, couldn't find an answer on the interwebs. How are alcohol laws in Canada, Ontario to be specific? Do they sell wine/vodka in groceries or is it limited to beer only?
I'm thinking about visiting so I'd be glad if someone was able to answer.
I just refuse to believe quebecois are this delusional and autistic when it comes to French. They will never separate or join a union with France. They seem very try hard when it comes to being "French" based of what I've seen in this thread.
Why would they push that language so hard? Do they also have signs there in Inuit since they were there first? They should just use English like everyone else in the country and preserve the French culture for themselves and share it with people who want to experience and not force it down people's throats like Islamist do with their shit.
Yes I'm mad. I've seen nothing but shitty things about Quebec and I don't want them to be true.
Found pic related after some googling.
Most provinces seem to have laws that are as retarded as in Finland. fug
Yes, I am a very small part French-Canadian/Quebecois and my cousins are huge cunts about Quebec and speaking French. They take a lot of pride in it, despite all of them also speaking English.
However unlike this dipshit>>54946665 I don't think they should stop speaking French as that is what they always spoke, and they only started with the language and culture preservation laws because they were afraid of getting assimilated by the Anglos. They aren't imposing their language and trying to reveive French language in the New World but rather are just defending how its been for 500 years
I currently live in New York because of school, but my family lives in central Massachusetts. The cousins I am referring to live in Massachusetts as well but go to Canada so often that they might as well be Canadians, they even have citizenship and an odd accent. I do have Quebecois cousins but I haven't met them, I do not know why I never did meet them but I assume its due to some sort of family rift that only my cousins in Massachusetts cross.
idk I've never gone beyond Montreal so I couldn't possibly give you good advice, I know there is a Qubecois guy who posts on int, he will probably look at this thread soon and give you tips.
>can go as far as beating up or killing an anglophone for talking shit about us. Yeah you read me right, personally I wouldn't take 25 (years) for an anglo but some of our people can go hard as fuck. I'll take 6 months for beating one up any time though. Jail is like vacation.
How old are you, this reeks of underage
>Of course we speak 100% French.
Tell that to fucking Montreal where everyone is pretty much Anglo. Even the French they speak elsewhere in Quebec is full of Anglicisms and loanwords.
>heh...nothing personal anglos
never happened m8. most Quebecois are decent and friendly enough. it's the ones on the internet that are irritating to be around.
anyway if Quebec was such hard shit they would never have voted 'no' to independence twice.
Literally every single place anyone would ever want to step foot in in Montreal is either anglo of bilingual with a heavy smew toward anglo.
No one wants to get stabbed by Haitians.
>you will never row for hours a day with your bro, becoming ripped as shit
>you will never stop for the night and eat a delicious stew while singing and telling stories to your mates
>you will never transport furs to afford nights of drunken debauchery in small towns
>you will never have bastard children scattered all over the country
>tfw no carefree voyageur life
>Literally every single place anyone would ever want to step foot in in Montreal
Yes, clearly you're an expert who knows all about the different neighborhoods of Montreal, and not just an Anglo who stayed isolated in his little McGill ghetto. Clearly you know way more than I do, after all it's only the city in which I've lived my entire life.
Sarcasm aside, it takes 2 fucking seconds with Google or Wikipedia to find the demographics of Montreal and avoid looking like a complete fucking clueless retard. Montreal is way more francophone than it is anglophone.
I painted Montreal red probably before you were even born. I know the city well. Francophone areas are shitholes filled with niggers and there's no reason to go to them unless you need drugs or a cheap lay.
I wasn't born in quebec, I merely have Quebec descent and have a lot of Quebecois cousins because of it. I don't even speak French, I could probably understand more Polish than French.
that's a good start, though you might have a hard time with the local dialect initially it means that you should be able to improve fairly easily if you have enough immersion
I've known a few international students who spoke decent French but weren't particularly advanced before coming here, and while they all had great difficulty the first couple of weeks because of the dialect, every single one of them was able to learn to understand eventually.
Also, if ever you're struggling people will have no issue with switching to a more "neutral" dialect when they see you struggling to understand, many will probably also switch to English or offer to switch to English though, but if you want to get better I would recommend insisting on speaking French (and, assuming you're conversing with francophones and not anglophones/immigrants, this will get you very positive responses, we're quite autistic about language and when we see foreigners really genuinely care about language it generally makes people here very happy, even if you're still learning and struggling with the language).
The average Canadian knows little to no French, there's no point asking them. There's also little to no point in asking Québécois because naturally you'll get biased responses.
You're better off asking in /fr/ or something to that effect.
>If a language/culture is so grand and superior, why does it need legal protection?
You are basically describing my learning experience with German (starting with Das words felt like a waste of time, since one out of three words was borrowed from english, and another one from french).
Actually I like those "biased" responses. The amount of pride someone shows when talking about something he/she obviously likes is something I enjoy reading, it can say a lot.
BC changed liquor laws in the last year or so and so this image is outdated. Some things are still in transition, like grocers will be able to sell some alcoholic drinks now or soon.
well, in that case, my opinion is the following:
It's very unique in terms of syntax/grammar, there's a lot of features which, from a purely objective linguistic standpoint, are very interesting. For example, the way to form interrogative phrases in Quebec French is really neat. There's also a fuckton of archaic language, and so if you're into language history and etymology, it's really cool for that. Personally those are my favorite aspects, I really just get a huge kick out of taking random everyday language, and analyzing it, and chances are you'll find interesting stuff.
As far as pronounciation, people here typically have the following opinion: "Quebec French sounds better on men, because it's not effeminate like metropolitan French, but metropolitan French sounds much classier and thus is better on women". I'm not a fan of the overly nasal vowels, or of the slight anglo influence in some of the sounds (for exemple, the letter 'r'), but it's not so bad. One thing I can say for sure is that our pronounciation is way more expressive. Standard French vowels all sound the exact fucking same, but in Quebec each vowel is very distinct from the next.
I think my least favorite aspect of Quebec French is the anglicisms, though you also get plenty of those in metropolitan French, but somehow it feels like anglicisms in France aren't so bad as they are here. That being said the extent of anglicisms is quite exagerated in Quebec French, people make it sound like it's some sort of English-French creole while it's nothing even close to that, it's just that you'll definitely hear many anglicisms in everyday speech.
Yeah you're right, who cares about immigrants adopting our culture and language? Let's just keep it to ourselves and let it be replaced by foreigners.
Seriously though, we don't force it on anyone. If you go live in France, you speak French. If you go live in England you speak English. Same here, if you come to Quebec, speak French, if you want to speak English and go to a heathen Protestant church then the Anglo Canadians will be happy to welcome someone not named huan chi suong.
And there are road signs in native languages in the territories and in BC too I think.
This was the kind of post I needed, Anon, thank you very much.
And it kind of confirms the reasons why I want to learn Quebecois, actually. I'm crazy for this "language history" kind of thing. I just hope I can manage to find enough resources online for Quebecois.
>people make it sound like it's some sort of English-French creole
Aren't there regions, not in Quebec but the other French speaking province, that actually are like that, though?
I think in New Brunswick, and there was a specific name for it
>I live in the one region labeled east indian
JUST SHIT MY STREETS UP
>tfw going to Quebec City in the spring solo travelling
>excited because I love hearing people speak French
>nervous as fuck because my spoken French is just barely fucking passable even though my schooling (kindergarten to grade 12) was in French
>Do they actually use French in this region?
They use it primarily to scam funds from the rest of Canada.
Probably the biggest group of parasites in the Western world.
The anglicisms in French are much worse because they just sound so fucking jarring. Ours blend in very well just because of how our language and accents sound. But when a Frenchman uses an English word he might as well sound a horn screaming THIS WORD BE ENGLISH cause damn.
That aside, our language is very interesting as the quoted anon as said. A cool thing about it is that our dialect actually has more phonemes than the French of France.
The way to ask questions to someone in Quebec French as he said is cool, because we tend to double the pronoun then. In Europe they'd they "Veux-tu un café?", here we'd say "Tu veux-tu un café?", although that is almost exclusively used with the 2nd person singular, less often with the 2nd person plural, never with the others.
Another interesting tidbit is that a ton of our words stem from the very important place the sea and sailing had in early Quebec history. For instance instead of saying "monter" and "descendre" of a car (Get in and get out) we'd use "embarquer" and "debarquer" (embark and disembark), which are terms usually used when getting in or off a boat. We also say things like "une bordée de neige" to mean a snowfall, bordée being the line of cannons on warships (and their firing). Things like that.