ITT: We appreciate the EU
The most influential Union ever, the birthplace of white mankind, the most powerful economic bond ever.
Classical modern day British gentlemen behaviour, 'cunt'...just like the rest of the world knows you. Britain, the modern face of mass-underclass. Nobody is stopping you, hush hush
Who is 'you'?
'You' means the non-tax paying Weeb or low-paid underclass worker at Tesco you, or people who matter? Because 'you' sure as hell do not reflect any public opinion besides the one you daddy told you whilst eating fried snickers bars.
>The most influential Union ever
>literally controlled by the USA
>appreciate yet another big-government failure
Respect to the Krauts, however, for taking over Europe economically when the Eternal Anglo prevented them doing so militarily
It will be sad when EU finally break off. When there are common market and universal trade agreements it's better. But you started to crumble even due to the immigration problem. What will be when you run into some real serious economic issues as USSR had faced?
I`ve learned in my Economy class that no country benefits more from the EU than Germany.
We pay a lot for it but in return we can export even more stuff.
Way too many Germans obtain their information from the BILD-newspaper and complain even though they have no clue.
>Greece was almost bankrupt
>first purchase are submarines from Germany
the Canadian is really baked; what do you all plan on doing about the whole Ukrainian situation ?
Doesn't the fact that I am studying Business Management and Economics make me a yuppie and not a hippie?
>our economic system is based on fucking poor economies to keep stronger ones
is the truth.
It doesn't matter if you look at Germany - Greece or EU - African countries.
Please notice that I just wanted to point out the fact. There was no value judgement intended.
It's just how it works and I am glad that I am living in a country with a strong economy.
Actually the EU now carries more economic clout that the US does... shit, we're the worlds largest economy now. While the "will the EU become a superpower" question can be debated, it already IS one in economic terms.
Yes it is, considering how much less natural resources and shit we have. The EU is literally a giant urban shithole, all the growth is from tech savvy ways really. Admittedly this is a problem since we can't hope to be self sufficient in agriculture unlike the US, making protectionism impossible for us.
Nope, doesnt matter who you're o what you think. if you poing that the bigger fish eats the little one you're cancer for the lolbertarians.
>There was no value judgement intended.
You dont need to make a judgement. If you dont agree that poors a poors because they want to you're a leftist.
EU can be self-sufficient in terms of Agriculture as well. All needed for that to happen are agriculture investments in Romania and especially Bulgaria instead of Poland.
Sweden no, the EU as a whole has.
The issue is that agricultural funds are mainly invested in shitty soil countries like Spain and Poland instead of above mentioned Bulgaria and Romania.
but yurop doesnt invest in moldova bcuz yurop are bitches
The EU as an Union is relatively new.
Do you think the US had a strong foreign policy 60 years after their existence? Instead they had civil wars. It needs time. Obviously Europe throughout its whole history was there to rule, so it will rule again, its just natural.
Well, I can see your point but I don't agree entirely.
But it's probably better to stop the discussion now instead of arguing for hours.
Thank you for your input though.
I didn't see myself as leftist before.
Farming, including stock farming, gets subsized a lot in the EU.
It's not profitable because of the low prices.
EU was pretty sweet when i visited, London, Paris, Switzerland and Italy. Can i go anywhere with a passport? I visited when you guys had open borders, i heard that changed after Daesh kicked up
what is a strong foreign policy?
we were removing kebab just a couple decades afte we formed, with high tech superfrigates.
Basically making the mediterranean safe again, because europe couldnt.
I wouldn't be shit talking Eu bruuu, fucking island that sends refugee boats to fucking india
lol lets pay 250 billion to bail out greece so they can pay pensions of 1000 euro and not invest in moldova who are dirt poor (country budget is 6-7 billion, pension is 40 euro)
i have no simpathy for europeans
rapefugees in europe make me happy
No. Finland is not shit at agriculture. We are actually pretty fucking good at it, It just comes down to money, tech and, and climate.
It's expensive to heat growing rooms in the winter and our growth season is really short.
It's just not economically wise atm, but maybe in the future? Who knows?
>moldova saying it's better to have 2 greeces than 1
Any money that would be given to moldova would immediately go amiss by one of it's kleptomanic government officials.
we may as well burn the money in our furnaces really, senpai
have you checked on El Chapo in the last 15 minutes???
I don't live in Toronto or BC bud, my real estate market is wonderfully low, and not Chinese owned
Yes our soil is very good quality, many different kinds of soil, not overworked or chemshit either. Also our Finnish products are very good quality and purity.
Dont ever buy anything from poland etc, very dirty and shitty quality full off shit. Finnish product expensive, but excellent quality and freshness yes.
you took my region manufacturing man not cool, it's ok tho we survive on the bars that the americans come over to drink at
>the EU combined is still weaker and less prosperous than the US
>All we have to do is create Islamic Legions and send them to fight Jihad wars in eastern yurope.
wait.. so now poland isnt eastern europe? is it ''central' or, dare i say, western?
he's right... for now , 2050 the average north american will no longer be white
he's waiting for Russian frigate to sail through istanbul then his highway will be relinked with Moscow
North American union not but NAFTA Exists
The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA; Spanish: Tratado de Libre Comercio de América del Norte, TLCAN; French: Accord de libre-échange nord-américain, ALÉNA) is an agreement signed by Canada, Mexico, and the United States, creating a trilateral rules-based trade bloc in North America. The agreement came into force on January 1, 1994. It superseded the Canada–United States Free Trade Agreement between the U.S. and Canada
>be continent spanning country alliance
>still worth less than a single country
>the most influential union ever
>can't even stop a bunch of third worlder troglodytes from invading them
all you fucking (p)aussies do is banter bloke, talk about a real fakin problem wont yu inbetween waves ma8
ok you shit, then ill say like in the other thread, you just gave erdogan 3 billion not to dump refugees in europe, or you just could guard the border better
is turkey EU? useless money spending IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, but what do i know
you're high from the fukashima radiation in the water man, talk some real issues while on a wave faaaak
>all those immediate replies
the same amount the americans have
>influence on national reforms (even if needed)
>create delays in local governments and any needed intervention (too many examples to write)
>fake copyright rules
>the sanctions on russia and iran were a mere attempt to make france, UK and ermany gain market margins
>galileo satellites (made to be indipendent from GPS) are 15 years late in schedule
>this because ESA doesn't want to an international bid as it should be
>spaceX would do 100 times better than arianespace, but fuck free market, let's just give money to the french
>the EU is only an economic union
I sincerly hope you get beheaded for praising NAFTA
Then the brits are the most powerful, yeah?
who gives a fuck its fucking 4chan (ethnic homeland what up)
>making a hype thread about the EU when it's on the verge of collapse
Unwise, Hans Hussein Svensenn
NAFTA AND EU are similar trade blocks.
This treaty para regional trade in North benefit to the Mexican Ministry of Economy America and help one face competition posed by Japan and the European Union. Others argue that Canada and Mexico itself became " colony " of the US Which increased poverty in Mexico and aggravated unemployment in the US Make the dollar the only currency in commercial transactions between the NAFTA partners involved a serious resistance from Mexican society and even certain sectors of government where there was a fear of loss of national identity . Until 2009 The integration process was completed even though Mexico esta More linked to the United States that a Canadian . Deficits that characterized this process hindered the range of most of Population Welfare .
No they aren't
NAFTA is not a Single Market
NAFTA does not have freedom of movement of labour, capital, goods and services
NAFTA does not have the same extent of harmonised regulations
NAFTA does not have its own Parliament with elected MEPs
NAFTA does not have an equivalent to the Council or Commission
Stop being stupid.
the middle east is much more complex than bombing the fuck out of dirt for the past 30 years.
Try the canadian "advising" strategy http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canadas-training-mission-could-lead-to-kurdish-independence-experts/article28683976/
>NAFTA has made North Mexico rich, white and developed
thats why the farming sector has gone to shit due to the lack of tariffs and americans subsidizing their agriculture to high as fuck levels right?
GDP growth of mexico taking inflation into account has been zero or 1& since the NAFTA was implemented
>your city is not industrialized like us.
its always some fucking sub-human norteño the one who is behind the most fucking retarded posts
>your city is not industrialized like us.
you are absolutely fucking delusional faggot
the mexico city is far better than whatever puebblo you come from, it has the highest HDI, highest standar of living, highst GDP per capita, etc etc
keep praising whatever american maquila your work in making clothes and other garbage
Once the Kurds control their shit again maybe you rbeloved EU won't be getting raped by a few of the MILLIONS of refugees flowing in and drowning your beloved metropolis
Fuck off Ahmed.
This treaty para regional trade in North benefit to the Mexican Ministry of Economy America and help one face competition posed by Japan and the European Union
This treaty para regional trade in North benefit to the Mexican Ministry of Economy America and help one face competition posed by Japan and the European Union
No seas idiota, un horrible chilango salio corriendo a Juarez, asi lo dijo ayer en una clase porque aqui les pagan lo doble y en el DF como son 30 millones a un profesionista les pagan 1500 y aqui 3000.
>This treaty para regional trade in North benefit to the Mexican Ministry of Economy America and help one face competition posed by Japan and the European Union
Yes. Good for you. A free trade deal between the EU and India would help face competition posed by the USA. That is ALSO true. Does it make a potential EU-India free trade deal anything like the EU itself?
Me sali corriendo del DF porque me pagaban una miseria, asi lo dijo el chilango cuando llego a Cd Juarez. Un chilango ingeniero civil, solo 1500 a la semana!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ajajjajajajajajaja
Why shall we need many of them when you are doing the dirty work for us anyways? Who's in control, the one whose soldiers die on the battlefield or the one who lets others die on the battlefield?
>how many supercarriers does it have?
None. But it will have two which are being built by the UK.
ha de ser un godinez que estudio administracion o algo asi
a mi me quieren contratar traduciendo documentos en ingles y frances y me ofrecen 11 a la quincena
ademas, eso tiene un pito que ver con el hecho de que the TLCAN es una basura y nos ha jodido mas
pinche sub-humano deja de samefaggear
regresate a hispita
Let me break it down to you again in a more simple way, so that even a peasant like you can understand. Can I travel to any EU country without even showing my ID? Yes. Can you travel to any country without doing so? No. Do you need Visas for other Nafta states? Yes. Do I need Visas for Nafta states? Lol, no. Can I pay in most of EU-countries with EUR? Yes. Can you pay with Peso in US or Canada? No.
Got it now?
you stupid subhuman
you still need to check and get ur passport signed, you cannot pay in pesos, you cannot get a job without a permit, etc etc,
>En Juarez, Monterrey, Chihuahua y todo el norte se gana mas que en el DF y el sur del pais
solo checa en inegi o wikipedia
>gracias a las super maquilas que ya quisieras tener jajajajajaja.
prefiero tener industria nacional, gracias
Please translate this.
EU, ASEA, NAFTA,MERCOSUR has the fucking same finantial purpose! FUCK THE POOR ONES AND GET THE RICH COUNTRIES MORE RICH
EU = THE BULLY IS GERMANY AND THE POOR ONES SPAIN AND GREECE
IN NAFTA, USA IS THE BULLY AND MEXICO IS THE SLAVE
NAFTA AND EU ARE THE FUCKING SAME FOR FINANCIAL PURPOSES NIGGERS.
>mfw i wake up in this beautiful union every day
war with russia when? i need to prove my fealty to this place
he is from the north of mexico, so yes, thats a 3rd worlder
Spain and Greece were both poor as fuck before they entered the EU. Spain had literally nothing except for tourism and construction. All countries long term make profit out of the EU and the free trade, but thats just a part of the story. Most important is the creating of an european identity, because this is what is preventing wars here since now 70 years.
Chilango indio, no puedes tapar el sol con un dedo. Monterrey los mantiene al igual que todo el norte de Mexico. No es casualidad que todos los indios del sur nos hayan invadido. Solo nos invaded por puestos de trabajo y mayor calidad de vida.
>1 Ciudad de México 2,124,418,000
>por porcentaje de participacion
>Ciduad de México 21.5% del total del PIB
quedese ardido mijo
>mayor calidad de vida.
los estados con mayor indice de delincuencia, asesinatos y secuestros son los del norte
los estados con mejor calidad de vida son los del centro y la peninsula de yucatan
There was no way Europe was going to go back to war after WW2, EU or not. Particularly with the US and USSR as it was. The EU and its face, Merkel, is doing more than anyone else to cause the next european war right now, whether it's from failings of euro or to do with islam.
Acapulco, Michoacan y el Estado de Mexico no estan en el norte jajajajaajajajjaajajja
El norte de Mexico es mas blanco, rico y civilizado. Ustedes todavia siguen siendo indios webones que salen corriendo al norte de la industria y la carne asada. El DF tiene esos indicativos gracias a los subsidios del norte, sin nosotros estarian iguales que sus hermanos de Oaxaca.
but it's not about european identity to anybody, it's about being able to travel freely, live wherever you want, trade, and mutual investment.
basically nobody's into it for a feeling of "europeaness."
chihuahua, sinaloa, nuevo leon nayarit y durango son del norte
la parte mas civlizada de mexico es la capital, los estados del centro y la peninsula de yucatan, el norte sirve para pura madre
>El norte de Mexico es mas blanco, rico y civilizado.
a que su pinche madre con este cabron
ya te enseñe el PIB per capita y el PIB del estado
en los dos la ciudad de mexico tiene el primer puesto, aunque le arda cabron
>El DF tiene esos indicativos gracias a los subsidios del norte
eres un verdadero estupido, donde leiste esa mamada?
todo el presupuesto del pais viene del golfo de las ganacias de pemex
> sin nosotros estarian iguales que sus hermanos de Oaxaca.
sin ustedes no tendriamos que gastar miles de millones pesos en pelear contra el narco, la venta ilegal de armas y la corrupcion
vales pura verga cabron, ya regresate a hispachan
Acapulco, la segunda mas violenta del mundo jajajajajajajajajajajajaja son indios salvajes jajaajajajajajajaj
Michoacan el primer estado fallido de Mexico esta en el norte? jajajajajajaja
Estado de Mexico, donde hay mas feminicidio, es el norte?
EU economic superpower status confirmed. We also outmatch the US in military power in total, but since it's all decentralized it's not effective, we have 28 air forces rather than one air force and so on, if it was all streamlined we would be powerful as fuck. If the union was guided by non-kucked principles I would definitely support a federal state.
So you're saying we out-merchant them?
... yes, us Swedes are good at such things. We're in.
>Europe needs to put together all of their countries to even hope to compete on the same level
they should fuck off out of it
and I pray we do as well
EU lost all credibility when they actually considered sanctions on Hungary for not following your insane immigration policy.
for smaller countries it's more dangerous for them to be in EU than out of it
Somehow you do, but Europe is going to fail as a union.
Europe has potential to be world No1 superpower as union only but is hard to maintatn and achive that today.
Main reason is cuz USA used after WW1 and WW2 advantage over demolished European countries.
I mean if Europeans never attacked each other and cooperated instead, EU nowdays would be stronger than whole world combined and multyplied by 10.
Russians are always factor of danger cuz they have too much military power over some Europe, they could crush EU in a month.
USA is taking advantage of it and literaly made NATO as their playgorund, keeping EU in fear of east while selling them guns, equipment, spreading military bases all over EU and controling a lot of shit on this continent.
USA is still worlds superpower and they have a LOT of influence over most advanced, most livable and richest countries in the world, like Japan, Germany, France, United Kingdom, Italy, Ireland, Swizz, Canada, Australia, NZ.
Besides that "cooperation thing and NATO", dont be deluded faggots, USA is literaly captain on that, holding the wheel and telling you all what to do!
Also it is fucking fact that USA will not last long as that superior player and that EU as a union is not going to last long... we will see in a near future whats going to happend.
there's no such thing as EU immigration policy.
when did that happen? It would be appalling if it did, because Hungary did literally nothing wrong. Except maybe threatening to break Dublin system, which is shit anyway. It's a shame nobody considered sanctions against Italy or Greece when they did nothing either.
Of course at the same time there was human rights shit that forbids deportation of immigrants into shitholes so there's that.
I am googling to see what it is.
>Mexico is member
Dear God just stop! Trying this hard to be relevant is stupid my friend, do you really think that Mexico could even compare with any European countrie?
Average Mexican lives like a dog, look at the stats:
I can't believe this took so long to find, mainly because there were so many cases where there was consideration of sanctions against Hungary
the ones I found was for the death penalty, the raiding of Norwegian organizations accused of funding government opposition
and because of some reforms back in the 2012
>there's no such thing as EU immigration policy
I don't remember other countries asking for distribution quotas of immigrants
Ah, so a minority faction in european parliament requested those sanctions. Well, they are still populist faggots who did it to gain some sympathy votes.
doesn't belong to Europe desu
>raiding of norwegian organizations accused of funding opposition
I wish european countries were more active against foreign funded NGOs messing with their politics. And mafia.
>I don't remember other countries asking for distribution quotas of immigrants
Those are ad-hoc measures that some retards came up with. They are idiotic and don't work, nor are they even properly implemented. A migration policy is in the works now, but it doesn't exist yet.
And don't worry though, quotas will no doubt be part of it.
Of course you can always come up with better way of dealing with the human wave. Allow me to preempt a few meme answers
>just shoot a few on borders and they'll stop coming
okay, that's one way, especially if you don't really consider them to be people.
>it's all US/NATO fault for fucking up middle east
whatever, doesn't say what to do with it.
>without EU, countries could each fortify their own borders
Yea, just look at how fortified the non-EU balkan states are.
>I still think my own country could go it alone, let the degenerate west burn and I shall laugh from my fortress
Maybe it will come to this, hope you enjoy conscription though.
EU is much closer. Anyway the Holy Roman Empire is a great parallel. It was itself criticized for the same problems we see In EU today, but it formed the foundation for the German Reich. We will see something similar on a much larger scale in our lifetime.
We only need to get rid of the fucking brits.