why is spanish america so balkanized?

like father like son

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Some latino countries have nasty food so people didn't want to live in the same country as them

>>54897034
>>54897034

mexico you have so many brothers to play with...

1. It was fuckhuge so Spain had to divide it into different autonomous viceroyalties
2. The independence wars were a mess
3. There are gigantic natural borders and various climates
4. There ARE racial and cultural differences (inb we are all mexicans).

>>54897104
1, 3, and 4 are true for brazil

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>>54897104
>(inb we are all mexicans).
central america down until panama is rightful mexican clay

>>54897074
what did you mean by that?

Geographical barriers. Also a reason for less interstate wars, and more guerrilla warfare.

>>54897159

Brazil is smaller than hispanic america and, while brazilian terrain is difficult, you can't compare it to an area that has the andes, is divided by 2 oceans, has island nations, etc.

The brazilian independece was almost bloodless in comparison to the rest of Latam because the emperor gave unity.

>>54897039
What the fuck!

>>54897007
because fuck guatemala, fuck el salvador, fuck nicaragua, fuck honduras, fuck coasta rica, fuck panama, fuck colombia, fuck venezuela, fuck peru, fuck ecuador, fuck bolivia, fuck chile and fuck argentina

>>54897284
you forgot the caribbean

>>54897181

Why do mexicans always say Central America is theirs when it isn't?

>be mexican
>try and start empire
>claim all New Spain land for muh mejican empire
>get btfo on both north and south
>muh land

it's everyone else's fault.

>>54897284
And México?

>>54897300
fuck the caribbean

>>54897370
fuck mexico in particular.

>>54897284
do you see? there are too many countries

spanish amerika should be made by up to 5 countries

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>>54897007
San Martin was offered to rule Chile and Peru after liberating them. Also everyone except the traitors Rivadavia and Alvear was waiting him in Argentina to give him the power. Imagine what he could have done what all that united territory + our rightful viceroyal clay

>>54897007
Guinea Ecuatorial is África but Guinea is the hispanic country.

t.oil

Bjor Bjor Bjor Bjor

>>54897007

Many tribes, the Spanish didn't hold high status long enough to unify them

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>>54897007


Why not? if anything it needs even more divisions.

>>54897422
The best hispanic country

>>54897007
Everything Spanish tends to become balkanized. Look at Spain itself and you'll find the answer.
The difference is that they are much crazier and they are 10 times more violent and mean.

>>54897413
>All those natives

>>54897413
And even before that Chile tried to be part of la plata, in 1799. But Peru cockblocked it and spain didnt want a bi-oceanic southern cone due how important the ports were back then.

>>54897595

>tfw no Southern Cone Republic like in my memes

>>54897460

Are they latinoafrican?

>>54897310
t.central american

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>>54897638
Federal Republic*

fixd

DOES SPAIN LOVE US?

DOES SPANISH AMERICA LOVE US?

>>54897730
I LOVE YOU BRAZIL

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>>54897284
This man couldn't even secure Central America or even rule Mexico for over one year.

>>54897675
And Guam, some people there speak spanish and Filipinas.

Latinoasiaticos n Guinea Ecuatorial

>>54897730
Sure, you're chill.

>>54897730
No, stop feeding in dota

>>54897698
>Federal republc
>Federalist unironically think federalism is better than unitarism.

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>>54897777

>>54897783
Saipan was Spanish too

>>54897802
Are there Brazilians in Spain other than the whores?

>>54897730
I hate brazil, but also hate every country of latam so nothing in particular

>>54897821
t. porteño trash

>>54897783
>Filipinas
in Philipines not even old people speak spanish anymore, dude.
Some spanish words remained in their language and that's it.

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>>54897638

Arrogancia & Picardia

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>>54897450
>outdated and he cropped out honduras,guatemala ,el salvador and venezuela

>>54897777
Iturbide was based

fuck off

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>>54897730
There's no spanish america, only Mexico

>>54897450
>chile and argentina better than america

Fuck

>>54897862
Same thing in Saipan, and Guam

>>54897842
not many, they don't emigrate here. Maybe in portugal there are more of them.
the few brazilians who come here are middle class and pretty chill and laidback.

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>>54897864
que picardia

>>54897842
Waiters and drug dealers

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>>54897894
>Couldn't rule Mexico for over a year
>Kicked out after everyone had enough of his shit
>Warned that if he returns he will be killed
>Goes into exile
>Mexico goes to shit
>Thinks he can makes the situation better
>Returns
>Gets arrested
>Gets shot by firing squad

>>54897862

Punitive expedition to reinstate spanish WHEN

>Mexico gets BTFO by the U.S, losing lots of land
>Mexico gets BTFO by central american territories
>Mexico gets BTFO by themselves from a few drug cartels.
Why are mexiroaches such losers? They can't even admit it and blame everybody else but themselves.

>>54897450
>Meanwhile spain is top 5 safest country on the world

>>54898031
Because Mexico could never gets its political shit together. Politicians and oligarchs were too busy fighting each other than actually governing until maybe the French invasion and later under the PRI.

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>>54897159
True, but the difference is we had an Emperor. Both our Emperors quashed one rebellion after another. Degenerate republican caudillos could not be as trusted or as strong.

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>>54898004
mexicans have a long history of fucking shit up on purpose

fucking self-hating edgy insurgents pretending to be frenchies fighting for independance

they couldnt understand we were stronger as a colony than as a independent nation

>>54898071
+1

>>54898090
So I take it you're not a big fan of "cafe com leche"

central america never revolted, it just left and no one cared enough to go get them back. too far away, too inaccesible, not enough resources, too many problems.

Chiapas was close and it voted to become Mexico.

>>54897777
>Local Emperor Ruins Mexico

MY SIDES! WHAT HAVE YO DONE TO MY SIDES

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>>54898021
Sure. And we can share our booty too, uruguay-bro.

>>54898071
And it's true.

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>>54898031
go get shot nigger

>Mexico gets BTFO by central american territories
you are fucking stupid, central americans were dumb as fuck and now they are even worse than mexico

even central americas cross the border to work here

>>54898031
Well México is conquering EEUU.. New Spain soon, my american friend

>>54898148
Nobody is. Slowly but surely Brazilians are learning the whole thing was a coup that made us as shitty as the rest of Latin America.

Few people know that during the 19th century there was American exceptionalism but also Brazilian exceptionalism, but the Brazilian version was a pride on stability, order and Old World tradition.

>>54898152
Pretty much this. Basically there was some infighting between those who wanted to be part of Mexico and others against it. Initially, those for joining Mexico won out, especially after maybe a few hundred Mexican troops came down to chill for a bit.....then promptly left. Afterwards, the oligarchs were like, "oh well" we can't remain part of Spain or be part of Mexico since they can't get their shit together, let's form a United Republic!

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>>54898159
fuck off chicano

friendly reminder santa anna was the leader of the rebellion againts iturbide, and later on santa anna lost half of the territory

>>54898031
hey remember that time Katrina killed like 3000 people in USA but a few months ago Patricia (strongest hurricane ever recorded) killed 0 in Mexico

>>54898299
he is most likely some mara salvatrucha from central america, dont reply to him

>>54898021
In Filipinas now again spanish is important in school.old people there speak spanish fluently and talano

>>54898218
Panamanians and Costa Rican are better off than the average Mexican though. Yucatan would have probably turned out better too had they staid their own country. They'd have ended up an oil rich version of Guatemala.

>>54898673
panama is colombian clay

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>>54898085
>PRI.
>not a bnch of politicians and oligarchs too busy fighting each other to actually govern

>>54898673
>They'd have ended up an oil rich version of Guatemala.
so Venezuela?

>>54898296

Learn some real history Juan instead of your chicano mejican pride delusions

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Gracias libertador

>>54897007
what? no, it's the opposite, Spanish american countries are already too big, too diverse. non-countries, in a nutshell.

>>54897413
And you forgot about South Brazil