How do swedes feel about there country being the laughing stock of the internet?
A few years ago sweden was lauded as a utopia, now if sweden gets mentioned online you will get countless 'cuck' and immigration related posts with hundreds of thumbs up etc.
>How do swedes feel about there country being the laughing stock of the internet?
But the normies obviously think they're respected.
I don't care for the internet bullying but actually seeing it falling like this hurts. I feel powerless because most people are absolutely okay with it and even the opposition party has been ruined from the inside and there seems to be no interest in saving it from anywhere.
I'll probably just leave, I will have the education to do it.
>caring what people on /int/ think about my country
Why are you so obsessed with us?
>sister - batshit crazy feminist, thinks current government is fascist for letting in too few
>mother - emotional woman, bakbak it's childreeeen we need to help them
>dad - kind of cuckservative, wants less refugees but would never vote for "racists"
We're all descendents of Finnish warchildren so refugees is a sensitive topic.
I'm going to do my exam-job in Copenhagen so might just stick around. My dream is moving somewhere warm though, both culturally and climate. Maybe South America if possible? Otherwise maybe Singapore or Hong Kong. I'm offered a very varied amount of choices.
>We're all descendents of Finnish warchildren so refugees is a sensitive topic.
Lol, they should know what kind of job it was to get integrated back then.
Nothing like every country is offering them now.
Not actually a Swede, but Stockholm is a nice city as long as you keep to the central parts of it that are mostly white. The only blacks you will find in the older parts of town are most likely just passing through. The working folk you meet in the morning there are 99% white.
It has even led me to conclude that it really can work as long as you outprice the niggers and shitskins into ghettos making the good parts of the cities unavailable for them. That way you get a load of workforce entering the country without exposing too much of the native population to the immigrants.
It's better to live in a simple country and have low inequality than a rich one with high inequality. There's no way any kind of segregation, economical or cultural, would lead to a better Sweden. You should see a rise in crime and a deep change in the average person's way of life
The service industry will roughly scale up with population growth, which isn't necessarily a bad thing
Basically every US immigrant group has been kind of associated with the restaurant industry, to the point where people expect "Greek diners" and "Italian pizza places" but since those waves of immigration were so long ago the restaurants are run by middle easterners/central americans respectively
this looks like fun
>oldest brother - super libertarian, only cares about low taxes. white wife.
>second oldest brother - is exactly what comes to mind when you think SD voter. pretty racist, workin class. he also married a thai/swede woman.
>third oldest brother - Conservative. agrees with the second oldest brother on alot of things, but cares little for the wellfare state and likes low taxes like the oldest brother. he will vote moderates if the keep up the anti-immigration stance. has a white gf
>mom - kinda like the second oldest brother, she really dislikes the current immigration, and doesn't have a problem with immigrants that assimilate.
>dad hate saying this about my dad, but pure cuckmaterial.
I'm not saying you're wrong, tho. It might be very likely that the majority of these people take welfare, but the ones who do work are a beneficial. Or in general, the ones who live here and don't steal or rape are beneficial and would be welcome. As for the welfare thing, you just have to stop giving them any.
Don't tell me you fell for the inequality meem.
Despite scaring away alot of refugees, we're still pretty cucked but not at the same level as Sweden. Let's be real, multiculturalism is growing at an alarming rate. But what the fuck would you expect from a globalization?
i just dont get why people seem to think globalization is only okay in white countries.
the only culture/people that will dissapear are white ones. its not a mutual sacrifice. we are the only ones losing something.
It's the way I've come to perceive the differences and problems in the countries I've been in. I'm not European but here even small economies boast great quality of life because you don't have to deal with the immense problems that stem from inequality and a large part of the population that has to live without basic services. All while there are people that couldn't spend all their money even if they tried.
Also, once ineq. grows it's really hard to contain it without major redistribution programs and good luck with a government that turns profits down and is actually interesting in investing in the lower ranks without just giving free money for reelection purposes.
All countries get shitposted on the internet, I dont think they should care about what a foreigner says
But really, it's so fucking dumb how the government(s) pretend that they didn't realize that the majority of the refugees were economic migrants. I mean, they're not fucking stupid. It baffles me how fucking planned this entire situation seems to be.
Also, if you haven't noticed, western culture has literally been imposed everywhere it's brought.
There are very few countries that retain a balance between the west's influence and their own culture. The entirety of South America has almost no culture of their own.
It does work though, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. I'm not saying it's a 100% deterrent but a lot of girls will act in a way that will display weakness rather than strength.
>Sweden turns into a caliphate
>White people flee to Norway, Denmark and Finland
Christ I hope not. It is exactly the reason why we don't want Skåne
>implying they won't leave cause it was turned into an unsafe thirdworld shithole
South America was poorly inhabited and developed before Europeans. It's like inserting an island still in the middle ages in the American coast today and wondering why they didn't retain much of their culture
Kek, I fucking wish. I stopped going to University because it fucking sucked and now I have to do something in the meantime until I can restart studying with different subjects next wintersemester. It's just gay work&travel uezs.
Speak up, dirty Dane
my point exactly, they'll see that brown people maybe weren't that great of an idea. and decide to do better next time.
over 20% are voting SD alot of these people have probably had a shitty experience with immigrants, directly or indirectly.
I highly disagree, while our cultural and artistic heritage isn't as extensive as the rest of europe (for obvious reasons), we clearly have a very different culture and way of thinking, even compared to spain. I say this as a chilean which has arguably the least recognizable culture in south america.
they'll fuck you if you're handsome no matter what type of person you are.
>go to party with friends
>a friends sister is there to meet us
>she is a rabid leftist and she knows im an SD voter
>keeps giving me disses throughout the night, shit like "ofcourse you dont have a gf, who would want to hook up with a racist"
>i return the favor "something something rabid feminism"
>she keeps hanging out with me despite "disliking" me
>i say my goodbyes to friends and she says that she have to go aswell, and joins me on the walk home.
>we bang at my place.
seriously, no morals whatsoever.
>It's just gay work&travel uezs.
Experience is experience uezs.
Can you recommend me a site for finding jobs in foreign countries? I was actually thinking of leaving Germany for a while aswell. Towards the north, that is.
I used workaway/-er.com/net (on mobile atm don't know the exact Name) to find this one, but you have to Pay 20€ a year. It's pretty good, but only has farmwork, b&b etc. Not the Place if you are looking for an internship offenes by a big Company tho.
Another gem by yle, made with the money of Finnish taxpayers.
I guess the average swede would probably say nothing bad about immigrants but at the same time wouldn't want to live in an immigrant heavy area or send their kids to an immigrant heavy school if that gives you any indication of where things stand.
would probably mind it more if it wasn't for the fact that I'm grappling with intense feelings of self-loathing to begin with
when you dislike yourself, any arbitrary opinions about your country by people online tends to take a backseat
Probably that we didn't experience WW2 in the same way, we've totally forgot occupation and ugliness so now we think that everyone who enters this geographical area will become nice like us
Because those 9s can fuck attractive men so why would they fuck me?
More sexual liberalism -> more casual sex -> a more selected amount of guys get more sex while most guys get less sex
my report on the matter: 180/6 feet, extremely muscular (roids) brown eyse/hair and red beard, italian.
i've been to and flirted/fucked: almost all of europe, japan and korea, australia.
norway has been the hardest place ever.
the men are inconsequential, some are twinks, some are normal men but all in all there is no macho culture like in italy or spain or france and no lad culture like in britain.
all in all they are well made and fit but they pose no opposition or threat.
the women(until 25 then they age like shit) are so beautiful that i have a bit of an inferiority complex, which is the worst thing when talking about attraction.
you might believe racism is real or not but i seriously feel it, like they judge me harder than their men.
sweden doesnt have this but i still have that complex, also swedish girls are probably the sweetest in the wrold(norwegian are much more tomboyish), really a shame what is happening there.
so put it like this: if in your home country you can get a girl with x effort here you will have to put x*y where y is how not white you are, whereas for example in japan the effort is x-x (meaning no effort at all).
you are swedish man with the balls to go around at parties saying that you vote sd, that makes you very attractive in the grand scheme of things.
Not sure what your point is but that's rather political maneuvering by our elite. What our regular people experienced is distinctly different from the other Nordicks, as far as I believe
Differences are irrelevant. There are differences in the USA, Sweden, Croatia, Germany or Portugal. Some people can achieve more than others and get better payment for doing so.
The redistribution programs are first of all unnecessary and unfair, second of all completely inefficient at eliminating that uneliminatable unequality. In fact, it often does more damage - look at the development and integration of black minority in the US after the increase in welfare and how it slowed it all down.
cool thanks, but your formula is kind of weird
I'm the 5'10 Korean from above and in Montreal and New York I had no problem with white QTs and Tinder was like shooting fish in a barrel, got laid plenty
Here in Vancouver I get like 1 or 2 matches a week and since I go to school all week and work through the weekend I don't go out so I can't really say how good/bad I am flirting here
I got Tinder + just to swipe for shits before I go to Yurop with my friends and just in a day I got 10 matches in Stockholm with really cute girls
TL;DR Race preferences make no sense i.e I live in Chinkville and getting laid is a struggle and everywhere else it's easy
Things often exaggerate here. Actually, things always exaggerate here, hence why you shouldn't get offended by what's being said.
And Sweden is most definitely not the laughing stock of the internet, just 4chan.
i have no idea how things are for asian men, i was talking about white men.
anyway i do not use tinder and shit like that, i met women at the gym/events or at parties.
its the other way around pal, strange you havent figured out yet: here people speak their mind, everywhere else they soften the blows and snciker behind your back.
I understand the worries, but still I'm unable to grasp the level of racism. Shure there's problems, but no one is talking about opening the boarders to europe, just letting people fleeing war get a safe place to stay. What the fuck is so bad about that? Is EU facing a challenge? Yes. Is EU bordering a collapse? Not even close. We've handled far worse, we'll handle this as well.
Swedes have an innate sense of superiority. We think of the rest of the world as either children who need our help or primitives who should be kept at arms length depending on who you're talking to. Something both sides can agree on is that your opinions don't matter.
The refugees aren't real refugees, they're not fleeing for their lives, they're searching a better quality of life so we have no moral obligation to accept them more than we should accept all of India, China and Africa
They already have a safe place.
>swedish girl gets pregnant dancing "el serrucho"
This is "el serrucho" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIc9PtJEw1c
Among the bullshit that was your post one thing was true: we will handle it.
We will round them up, shoot them in the back, and get you traitors to dig the grave, after which we will hang you by said grave.
If you think theres a peaceful solution where eveyone gets to live happily ever after then the racism is not the only thing you are unable to grasp.
Preconception has nothing to do with it.
Exxageration may be in some cases but overall you will find more truth here than in reddit or facebook or even the news.
I don't think anyone here wants actual war refugees to stay in their shitholes while there is a Risk of getting killed by isis, America, etc. There are just too many economic refugees atm. Why do we have to take them all in?
>they just want to stay here untill its safe
>they just want to live here
>they just want a place to pray
>they just want a mosque
>they just want to play our loud chant during prayers
>they just want a huge fucking mosque
>they just want sharia
and thats not even mentioning the non-muslim immigrants.
>Shure there's problems, but no one is talking about opening the boarders to europe, just letting people fleeing war get a safe place to stay. What the fuck is so bad about that?
The problem is it should not be Europe's burden to bear. There is nothing inherently wrong with helping those that actually need help, but it's going to be impossible to tell the different between legitimate refugees and ecogee's, and of course fighters. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, etc plan to do absolutely shit all to either help with the mass-immigration crisis or tackling ISIS.
In case you fucking retards cannot grasp it and think i am exxagerating heres what is going to happen:
-things are gonna get worse
-half assed shit like sd and new dawn and afd and forza nuova ukip and all that shit are cool and refreshing to see but they will not change shit
-when they are 10 millions(3-8 years more)THEY will start the violence.
-when they do you fucking moderates pussy fuckwits are gonna get blown to the sideways
-when the time come extremisim, the REAL one, is gonna lead the way.
in other words: you faggots could not resolve this issue in a timely and reasonable manner, the issue will be solved by men like me who are driven by hate and true extremism, we do not want the reasonable solution or the best solution.
we will go out of our way to hate them and destroy them.
now i know your first( and only) reaction would be to ridicule the post and say that i am a edgelord or a fedora tipper, the truth is that you are afraid, extremely afraid.
you do not even want to think about it.
when moderation fails, extremism resurface.
you are failing.
>the laughing stock of the internet
This doesn't reach the average Swede though
We're all blissfully ignorant
France abandoned you, Frencie, does it hurt?
That's why every country is trying to figure out who to keep and who to send back. Will there be cheaters? Shure. Terrorist? Maybe. How many will they kill? Far less than the people killed on that train in Germany. Are we going to ban trains now?
yeah, because sharia courts and honor killings has always existed in europe
that fertility thing is kinda BS, immigrants have about the same fertility rate as the natives after the first generation.
so both leftists and rightwingers are wrong
>"they are coming into the country and they have 10 kids each, tey gonna take over with kids."
>we need to increase the fertility rate in europe, muslims have plenty of kids, they will fix it."
I'm this guy >>54887086
I used to work for a company that helped out with the clusterfuck Bulgarian immigration crisis in 2015. They do stuff with drones and reconnaissance and shit, and pretty much everyone in the office was shrouded around screens with aerial views of people swarming through holes in fences while someone relays information to the authorities. They were pretty much 75% young men of fighting age.
so why cant we take the budget that we are using on recieving immigrants and instead put it on helping them in the crisis areas. lord knows the UN is in dire need of the money.
this way we dont get huge segregation in europe, AND we can help alot more people. we can literally have the cake and eat it too.
also if we do help people over there, they will have less incentive to come here.
Well, I agree. We should help closer. I'm not for a naive welcoming of the whole world. That'll just lead to more breiviks and fundamentalists. I'm just not a frantic racist either.
the fallacy arises when the data points are not logically linked.
-you are a faggot
-your children will be faggots.
it is illogical to assume your children will be faggots too.
you will never have them as you will die as a bottom with a torn asshole and canonically virgin.
however noticing a trend and predicting where it will logically end is no fallacy, is deduction.
it is truth boys, prepare yourself, i have been, for 8 years.
breivik is a hero and when the time come he will be freed from prison and given a legion, so thanks.
meanwhile enjoy what will happen in europe in a few years:
Most autistic get of all time. Fucking Krauts do it again
i really like myself too.
i have no year in mind but i know it will happen too late.
so many europeans lives be ruined before justice will be made.
good to know. get to the gym and learn how to use firearms.
That is the wrong approach. You need to learn politics and social skills. The difficulty is not winning the violence against the migrants, but the take over the state. You can't use violence effectively, since the state can always outgun you.
That guy is actually really respectable, glad to see some europeans are still respectable people.
I sincerely hope it isn't just all talk though, and you guys stand up for your country.
>Peoples been killing always
Wait a few years, i will show you what killing means.
I think i will end up like robespierre but i do not care, there needs to be cruelty equal as what we have unjustly suffered.
All this war romance... Look, I worry to, but I don't want war. The liveleak you linked gives a pretty good indication of how horrible it is. Let's solve our problems like we have been for the most part up here north: dialogue. And imprison and send back criminals. It can be done quite civilised, you know.
>How do swedes feel about there country being the laughing stock of the internet?
Give zero fucks 2bh. It's great to live here, why should I give a shit about your YESmemes when I can look out the window and see clearly that they're not true?
I do, frequently, I also travel to different towns for work.
Yeah, we have fugees, and that's shitty, but it's no where near as bad as you tards make it out to be. Not that me saying that will change anything, it never does on here.
Yep that's true. Your theoretical freedom is not worth very much if you allow yourself to be scared into sitting in your room dead scared of doing anything out in the real world.
Well it doesn't happen that people get punished for false reports. It's just "case dismissed in lack of evidence". It's like millenium act. Just fire away claims everywhere no fear of repercussions if you were wrong because you won't be held accountable for unsubstantiated claims, and it will end up in the statistics.
Oh my you actually think it's more likely people are making up rapes instead of there legitimately not being enough evidence to persecute people for rapes.
The denial is so strong it's a little sad
No, but like >>54890076 says it's different definitions and reporting rates.
Take the shit in Cologne, for example. In Sweden, all those incidents, even the ones that were "only" groping and the like, would be recorded as rapes in the statistics, since all form of sexual violence/coercion gets recorded that way, if several offenders on the same incident they're recorded as separate incidents. You then get a shitload of rapes on record.
Example, a few years ago some pedo got locked up for fucking his daughter, it had gone on for several years. That year, a single victim and offender represented over 600 counts of rape in the statistics for that year.
>HUEHUEHUE NOT LISTENING SWEDENYES RAPE CAPITAL OF WORLD HUEHEUEHUE
This will be your response, as I already know.
If it is safe to make accusations without any punishment if one is wrong some group of people will sooner or later will build an agenda to do that. Are you so gullible you don't get that? A free ride to portray a whole country as some kind of a rapers paradise? Yeah I could think some people and groups who could have that as an agenda. It's really obvious.
No. It is the "if it's zero risk to make accusations, some one will put into systematically make accusations to trick people to draw the wrong conclusions".
That wasn't as short and powerful as I'd hoped.
I'm not accusing anyone for doing it. But it is very likely that Someone is doing it if it is free of charge and no risk involved to do it. Could be someone wanting to blame SD or whatever.
SD is getting closer to getting into the government, i'd reckon that if they gained a majority they would become much less moderate over the course of their reign, not like the fixing of sweden's policy will scare off a lot of economic migrants or anything.
Secondly it would kind of open the door for even better parties or turn the politics on its head to become rational at least.
The longer the migrants stay though and the more they become the larger amount of people will hate them because this has already been showcased with SDs rising support before the migrant crisis.
I'm glad it's becoming known, and other countries get a look into their future. What goes on here is not an isolated incident, our condition just advanced very quickly because we were used to trusting the government. I hate when people actually get schadenfreude from watching us rot though, that kind of cynical response will not help you.
Depends, Northern England I believe are where you will find shorter guys, southern is more of the 6ft+
I'm about your height desu so it was a tad odd going from short/bout average to being the same height as men at 15 ( going up North)
>mother - socially conservative, commie as in ussr commie, hates hipsters and >art (pic related) thinks muslims will outbreed swedes if it keep on kek
father - computer guy, thinks more about muh economy than the culture but then again >lived in usa during his entire youth, still belives there are to many immigrants
(both dislike sd but dont hate)
>sis1 - doesnt give a fuck about politics
>sis2 - bit of a hipster, but well educated and no real opinion about immigration doesnt live in sweden but in cuckmany
>rest of my russian part of the family thinks sweden is a gay feminazi muslim country (basically /int/ memes)
my parents are immigrants but even they have immigrants
Though I agree, that is based.
>telling sd voters to leave the nation
its like you want to live in the caliphate
>american supporting illegal gun smuggling color me surprised