>be german >celebrate Karneval >hey now its over, its

>>54837756
I'm guessing that among young German people the only ones who go to church are Africans and Eastern Europeans?

How does not eating meat make me a better person?

>>54837971
Only old people go to church. Africans are muslims or stupid subhumans and Eastern Europeans don't care about religion like all other people here.

>>54837756
t. Ahmad

>>54838052
It could change America.

>>54837971
Most young people completely lost their touch with faith, it makes me really sad really, I've talken to our local pastor and he also said that it makes him sad that germans only visit the church when they have to (someone of your family died etc.) and not to explore and understand the moral faith system that has made europe

who the fuck cares m8

>>54838052
Meat is bad for the Environment, hell the german goverment even told people to eat less meat because our waters are being polluted by it

>>54837971
>Africans
Never saw one in my local church 2bh but I also live in a really small town
>Eastern Europeans
Yeah, they're actually religious people at least in my town, met a cool russian and polish guy at the confirmation

>>54837756
>where did all of our faith go
In Physics we trust.

>>54838124
What the fuck does faith even mean other than following bullshit made-up rules? How is a rationally explained moral system not superior?

>>54838203
The German government told people to eat less meat because they're a bunch of nanny twats.

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Europe needs a Christian revival

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>no moral christian gf

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>>54838423
P-praise the lord

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>>54838243
>foundation of european moral systems
>part of europe for almost 2000 years
>art, philosophy and music based on Christianity
>HEY LETS FUCK IT WHO NEEDS IT LMAO

I guess that's 1:0 for atheists :DDD

>>54837756
degenerate scum. glad we saved namibia from you people.

>>54838596
>>54838724
I pray your rear end simmers down, thou buttblasted niglord

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Post Christian art

>>54837756
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=845_1449673980

this is south africa. you dont know us.

>>54838596
This is what atheism is pretty much. Thinking you're more enlightened than 2000 of European moral tradition because DUDE IPHONES EXIST COME ON CURRENT YEAR

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Post Christian art

>>54839512
>muh Christian moral tradition
nice meme

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>>54839625

>>54838596
People rode horses for 2000 years.

>>54839838
The only reason slavery was ever outlawed in europe was because of christianity though
Atheists will literally defend slavery because everything is for sale

>>54839838
what the actual fuck are you going on about, there is a reason why morals are different in Europe/the Americas from other places and that is because of our religion.

>>54839838
the english and australians will now post how proud they are of killing our woemen and children.

>every civilization independently comes up with the concept of religion
>almost as if it's somehow beneficial to have an objective moral system underpinning your nation
>LOL CRUSADES RELIGION R BAD

>>54839913
why did the brittish kill the boers in concentration camps them?

>>54837756
>What happened, where did all of our faith go

Not even in Spain we gave a fuck about that shit long time ago.

>>54839864
If you didn't want to get starved should have stayed in your yard.

>>54839995
insolence

Why do atheists act as though science belongs to them? Just about every great scientist throughout history was religious, often devoutly so.

>>54839512
The only reason the West is as great as it is now is because we as a civilization have defanged religion and stopped letting it rule our lives.

Religion does not deserve any influence on society. The sooner all of them are relegated to mythology class, the better.

>inb4 fedora

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>Religion does not deserve any influence on society. The sooner all of them are relegated to mythology class, the better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR2QIJdtgiU

>>54840052
>>54840051
we ready for round 2 if you are. kill you fucks at a 10:1 ratio and all we lost were the the fat women and down syndrom children.

bring it on muslims!

>>54837756
>stop eating alcohol
I'm questioning your German authenticity since "to drink" is "trinken", its not a mistake a German would make.

>>54840182
>religion must either rule your life or be relegated to mythology

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

>>54840130
Some great scientists also had beards, but that doesn't have to do anything with science.

>>54840130
Because when public education is MUH GALILEO MUH COPERNICUS MUH INQUISITION KILLING FREE THINKERS-tier, they tend to miss out a lot of the context as to why the authorities acted the way they did. Add in some 19th century memes about the middle and dark ages being intellectually stagnant because of christianity and you have your fedora starter kit ready to go.

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>want to become orthodox christian
>no orthodox churches in my area

>>54840372
stfu finland. no one cares what you think.

I fucking love Romania

>>54839906
There are literal verses in the bible justifying slavery though.

>>54840420
move to russia then britshit, you'll love it there.

>>54838203
>the german goverment even told people
Well, that's not a good argument anymore, is it?

>>54840501
Fuck off C*tholic cuck, shouldn't you be letting refugees sleep in your house on orders of your beloved P*pe?

>>54840363
A beard is irrelevant to your mental state etc. A strong belief in religion is not. People like Kepler and Newton explicitly referred to God when talking about their scientific discoveries, their faith was clearly important.

Besides, you haven't answered my question regardless. Why do so many atheists act as though science belongs to them?

>>54840182
The west was always great though? Europeans ruled over the world for most of the time, annexing great parts of the world and becoming strong and powerful. Heck, if you think about it, ever since europeans turned their back on religions their empires became smaller and their influence as well

>>54840496
Slavery became popular in yurup through hebrewic culture integration, where the Talmud deliberately states all none jews are slaves in their caste.


Thats why all the slave trader marchants were of jewish descent.

There is nothing in the bible about rights to own slaves.

>>54840443
post popular romanian song.

here is popular soujth african song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSFItN28W6E

>>54840130
Because without it they have nothing to show for their accomplishments besides morally bankrupt dictatorships.

>>54840182
>Vatican funding of the arts and sciences, and humanitarian efforts have nothing to do with why western civilization is great
>the most powerful western country is the most religious
>predominately atheist countries have apathetic beta male populations, are flooded with muslims and are absolutely irrelevant on an international level
Yeah, no, atheism is a cancer. Religious societies give us beautiful buildings, art, and landmarks. Atheistic societies give us steel and glass, cookie cutter cities populated by nu-males.

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>>54840430
>South Africa
How does it feel to live in a failed Australia?

>>54840314
>all we lost were the the fat women and down syndrom children.

you lost the entire war you and were absorbed into the empire troglodyte

>>54840621
Pagans had slaves

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>tfw you remember the UK is technically theocracy

>>54840496
>implying most black people wouldn't be better off if they had slavemasters today
At least they wouldn't be starving.

>>54840848
lol no, fuck off kike lol

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>>54840853

>>54840610
The last... 500 years or so, actually. Mostly coinciding with the discovery of the New World.

>>54840621
>Psalm 123:2 (New International Version (NIV)): As the eyes of slaves look to the hand of their master, as the eyes of a maid look to the hand of her mistress, so our eyes look to the LORD our God, till he shows us his mercy.

>Ephesians 6:4-6: Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord. Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.

>Ephesians 6:5:Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

>Ephesians 6:9:And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.

>Colossians 3:22:Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.

>Colossians 4:1:Masters, provide your slaves with what is right and fair, because you know that you also have a Master in heaven.

>Titus 2:9:Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them,

>1 Peter 2:18:Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.

>>54840650
Quite frankly religion holds us back. One would note that the most heavily religious parts of this country (the South) are also the poorest and least educated.

>>54840896
What is false about that statement?

>>54840901
>You're going to state sponsored hell Anon.

>>54840896
>just trolling

4/10

>>54840938
>old testament

like I said, hebrewic culture.

I should have been more specific about which version of the bible

the old testament is as good as the talmud.

>>54837756
>eating alcohol
I don't think you're doing this right

>>54840938
>The last... 500 years or so

Please stop this meme

>>54840938
The south suffers from 100 plus years of government neglect and soft oppression. This country as a whole is religious.

>>54840703
for 5 years. then we kicked your asses out again lol. fucking in bred brits.

>>54837756
Here in countryside Brazil we still do that. I remember in my teenage years there wasn't any sort of party in my town during Lent.

>>54841108
no one cares about the us. this is int. please take your moaning to pol.

>>54840938
>Quite frankly religion holds us back
Back from what, exactly? Is this going to be the part where you spout some shite about colonising space or something?

>One would note that the most heavily religious parts of this country (the South) are also the poorest and least educated.
They also:
>make up most of your military and absolutely key to US military success
>have more significant and valuable artistic and cultural output than the rest of the country combined
>are more stable and socially cohesive than the rest of the country, best black-white relations of anywhere, because of the sense of community that religion builds

>>54841187
He used the US as an example in his post

>>54841220
>colonizing space somehow being a bad thing

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>>54837756
>eating alcohol
RUM HAM
U
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H
A
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>>54841141
yep with that thing called a democratic vote oh god you BTFO us so hard. my god you're fucking cringeworthy

>>54841272
And if it happened it would not be related in any way to the level of religiousness of the population, contrary to what atheists believe.

>>54838423
Post more girls like her preferible dresses morally

>>54841307
no that was in 1905. your grasp on history is what is creditworthy. did you even attend any school?

>>54841411
creditworthy*

the fuck! cringeworthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not creditworthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>54841411
when you were granted independence as a part of the british empire, like australia or canada? are you an idiot? militarily you were totally defeated. and now your country is an utter shithole ruled by and filled with niggers

fuck off carnival is GOAT

>>54841331
>contrary to what atheists believe
That's a good way to lose your moral high ground, bud

>>54841411
>>54841463
>>54841506


loled

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>>54841648
Scientific progress has never been tied to or related to levels of religiousness. This is a stupid atheist meme that any sort of proper historical education dispels, along with "people thought the world was flat until Columbus". The church is the only reason why science advanced at all following the fall of Rome to the industrial revolution and capitalism, and scientists were scientists because of their faith (a desire to study god's creation) rather than despite it.

>>54841919
That's great, but you've still lost all credibility by criticizing atheists for no reason
>This is a stupid atheist meme that any sort of proper historical education dispels
Are you seriously implying that the Church didn't impair scientific progress whatsoever ? Ever heard of Giordano Bruno ? Galileo ?

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>>54841919
it's thanks to monks in temples your stupid dumb anglo ass has cough syrup because some monk decided to study herbs and their effects on the body.

sweet Allah anglos are fucking stupid

>>54841509
even the niggers doesnt use concentration camps.
you fucking beta males sent over 500 000 soldiers to fight 50 000 boers. we strated killing you by the thousands and you got butthurt and in retaliation you started killing our women and children.

you people are filth. we still see you as filth. we are not as vocal as the jews or armenians. but when a brit speaks up about their victory over us ... we will quip in about your concentration camps that killed 30% of our population.

again you people are filth.:) like turks

>>54842117
the new Cosmos series was shit.

>>54842117
Christians certainly had dogma, but to say Christians were anti-science or knowledge is false.

>>54842296
>but to say Christians were anti-science or knowledge is false.
Who said that

>>54842160
Get someone good at english to read for you what he wrote

>>54842174
Ah, I see you failed to respond to any point made in my post but rather go tangentially onto criticising us in general and ignore the fact you've been caught spouting nonsense. Well played sir.

>>54842272
How is this related to my post

>>54842325
Not you, but it's related enough to be a valid point

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>>54842174
>i know, i'll start an armed uprising against the british empire and then get butthurt when i get my shit pushed in!

>>54842377
It's not. What did you think about the new Cosmos series?

>>54838124
Sad people aren't believing in fairy tales anymore
*tips fedora

>>54842412
Those concentration camps were really brutal though
So many dead qts, why would you do that

>>54842457
I watched neither the new one or the original desu, is either worth watching ?

>>54838124
That's because after the war Germans realized that god in reality is a very evil and sadistic entity.

And it's just better to not get noticed by such an entity than worship it.

>>54842160
What? Try actually reading my post before you sperg out.

>>54842117
>Bruno
He was prosecuted for heresy in regards to his denial of Christ's divinity and alleged diabolism, not solely for his astronomical views, which nobody would have cared about if it weren't for the other things.
>Galileo
He was prosecuted because other scientists of the time disputed his work on a non-religious basis. He was allowed to advocate heliocentrism as a possibility, not as established fact, but he chose to do so anyway.He turned out to be right and those other scientists and the church wrong, but his house arrest was seen as a measure against allowing what was then seen as pseudo-science spread, it was not as black and white as "he was trying to be smart and the church was scared of that so they arrested him" like people make it out to be today.

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>>54842476
we did worse to the germans kek

>>54842622
Germany is evil though

>>54842616
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/31/world/after-350-years-vatican-says-galileo-was-right-it-moves.html

xDDD

>>54842651
Dont worry Hans, when germany at last gets liberated in a glorious jihad from your atheist overlords you'll see wonderful and beautiful mosques erect all over germany which will be tax free.

It'll be a wonderful new age of enlightenment for the kraut

>>54842651
>5 euros per week

god you must be so poor

>>54842800
w00t dubs of fortune telling!

The wizard guides me

>>54842866
more dubs of confirmation1!!

>>54842616
>>54842117
also, Galileo was allowed to continue his work while under house arrest.

And there were also political factors that played into his arrest, as the pope at that time was facing accusations of weakness in defending the church.

>>54842797
So? What is your point?

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>>54842345
again a reminder. transvaal and the orange free state were very small independent countries.


we were never part of the british empire. we were invaded by them yes after the found our we had gold.

>>54842939
>>54842616
Sounds like you're going full damage control though
These scientists had their work made more difficult by the church, that's a fact that you cannot dispute

>>54842997
both the transvaal and the orange free state came under direct british rule for a period. that is a demonstrable fact.

>>54842939
You're talking shit and spreading revisionism.

>>54843017
>These scientists had their work made more difficult by the church, that's a fact that you cannot dispute


and rightfully so, see , the church knows there are some forms of "knowledge" that is just too self destructive and chaotic to harness, and that is the knowledge it was tryign to prevent from being tapped into.

what do you think would have happened to the world if it was experimented with?

Do you think the world would look any different than it is today?

>>54843131
it did after you invaded us yes. and after you put our women and children in concentration camps. no one disputes that.

do you still wonder why afrikaans people hate the british?

>>54843171
>the church knows there are some forms of "knowledge" that is just too self destructive and chaotic to harness
That's bullshit and you know it. I actually can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not

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>>54843268
>we were never part of the british empire
>except after you invaded and occupied us

>>54840938
>last 500 years
500 years more than anyone else kek

>>54843017
The church was the only reason scientists before the industrial revolution and capitalism had the ability to work at all. I was not denying that the church impeded those men's work, just saying that those cases are not as black and white as people tend to make them out to be.

Outside of monasteries there was no place in society for science after the fall of Rome, and without the desire to better understand god's creation there was no motivation either.

>>54843168
>posts an article written by a NY Times journalist who probably possesses the same level of historical education we do as an authority
>tries to throw around academic buzzwords like 'revisionism'
No historian believes that science and religion were ever opposing concepts, and all would tell you that the church was instrumental in preserving scientific knowledge and providing patronage to scientists in late antiquity to the renaissance. I'm not going to demand you spoonfeed me some fancy academic journal source because this isn't /his/, but you're calling me revisionist when I don't think you even know what "orthodox" thought on this subject is.

>>54843362
your occupation lasted 5 years

>>54843346
>That's bullshit and you know it.


no it actually isnt.

see, like a mature mother knows better than to let her child play with a gun, that's all that was intended by restricting "scientific" development.

But I guess the child decided to play with the gun either way.

>>54843346
>the planet is literally dying because of our greed
You don't think there isn't just a LITTLE grain of truth in what he said?

>>54843422
After which you were a part of the British Empire as a part of the Union of South Africa which was a British dominion until 1961. It's clear that you want to ignore facts because they make you fucking butthurt.

>>54843362
dude go read up some hey. you are coming across as an idiot.

>>54843268
muh 6 gorillion afrikaans

>there are religious people on /int/

Go to /pol/ please, that board is for people like you.

>>54843495
>>the planet is literally dying because of our greed
That's absolutely wrong though
Do you actually think a few million tons of carbon in the atmosphere will somehow kill all life on earth ? Get real.
If our species doesn't make it, others will, life finds a way. We're not doing too bad though, technology is still improving rapidly on every front.

You pessimists never cease to piss me off

>>54843593
atleast ours is past. how is that 6 gorillion rapes getting along sven? your sister and your mom near the fron of the que? they salivating for that brown cock? your dad will he mastrubate to the sight of his women raped?

>>54837756
I like Christian morals and culture for the most part, but I think religion in general is dumb as fuck. If we could just have a non religious yet non degenerate society it would be perfect

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>>54843720
BRIT'D

>>54843550
we were an independent country since 1905. we did fight in ww1 and ww2 by popular vote. not because we had to support england. ww2 caused a civil war here when we decided to fight on the allies side.

>>54843720
>sven
..

isnt that a somewhat common name in your country as well?

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>>54842672
>Germany is evil though

>>54843870
does your lil sister cry at night because tomorrow she must take the brown cock?

do yo listen to her cries and think "ah i am so progresive! i just wish i had another younger sister for muslims to rape!"

>>54843886
You were a dominion of the British empire granted self rule, like Australia, Canada or NZ. Nothing more. You're seriously autistic

>>54843692
>Do you actually think a few million tons of carbon in the atmosphere will somehow kill all life on earth?
That is what scientists are saying. I don't think life will die out and I agree that there might eventually be a solution, but technological development and industrialisation is what put us in this position in the first place.

>>54843168
>revisionism is bad just because it violates orthodoxy
That's pretty unscientific, friendo.
What he said isn't even revisionism anyway.

>>54843891
very uncommon name here. it is is jan koos piet hendrik stefaan lukas johan etc

>>54844019
just go read up. south africa was never a dominion.

>>54843652
Why do atheists insist on thinking that the majority of the population buys into their cancerous beliefs? Go to r/atheism if you want a hugbox.

>>54844205
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_South_Africa

>The Union of South Africa was founded as a dominion of the British Empire. It was governed under a form of constitutional monarchy, with the British monarch represented by a governor-general

>The Union came to an end when the 1961 constitution was enacted. On 31 May 1961 the country became a sovereign republic, under the new name Republic of South Africa.

How does it feel to be so easily BTFO?

>>54844104
Technological development and industrialisation is also what allowed us to be so rich and capable of such forms of communication though

>>54844285
Yeah, I'm not saying I'd be ready to throw out all my electronics and undo 300 years of industrial development just to reverse climate change and pollution, I'm just saying that technological development has not been 100% a good thing.

>>54844283
editing wikipedia as we speak

>>54844475
>we were never part of the british empire
>we were never a british dominion
>both easily provable false statements

having absolutely demolished all your arguments, i'm now going to go away. bye :)

>religion
>people giving a fuck
>2016
lmao, I bet you think Muslims actually don't drink

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Anybody else spend the last 5 days binge drinking and catching beads??

>>54844583
>we were never part of the british empire
>we were never a british dominion
Quebec also believes this and you can make an argument that European-decedents in UK colonies were never subject to much in the way of suzerainty.

>>54844583
>>54844583
we were occupied territories.
brittain decided we are dominions

what you decided and what really happenes isnt the same thing.

after 1905 english were btfo of south africa :)
but what ever makes you sleep better at night hey!

>>54844660
Nope I spent the last 5 days building my zombie proof fortress and stocking up on supplies in 7 Days to Die


My body is ready for a zombie apocalypse IRL