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I've seen this fucking guy's face all over the web. Decided to finally watch the video.

He allegedly speaks English, Irish, German, French, Hebrew, Spanish, Catalan, Portuguese and Italian.

Can anyone confirm if he speaks just as good as a native speaker?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-tTFKra3Ik
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>>54825305
>french
yes can confirm. you can slightly hear his foreign accent on some words though.
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>>54825305
He says that he tries to speak Brazilian Portuguese (Dumb choice tbfh) but his Portuguese is European as fuck.
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>>54825305
His French seems fine, it's a bit short though.
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>>54825305
jew/5
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>>54825305
i knew i know him from somewhere
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>>54825305
i believe it. language learning is easy if you know what youre doing
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>>54825305
His french is fine but not native sounding.
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>French
>Spanish
>Catalan
>Portuguese
>Italian

Literally all count as one language.


Show me a video of a guy speaking this languages

>English
>Hungarian
>Japanese
>Mandarin
>Arabic
>Turkish
>Basque
>Vietnamese

Maybe that would be impressive.
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his german sounds alri
>>54825797
youre retarded
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>>54825858

What I say is true. It would be harder to learn two languages from completely different family groups than all those languages. Let's say you're a native speaker of English, learning

>Arabic
>Korean

Would be harder than learning

>French
>Portuguese
>Spanish
>Italian
>Catalan

All at once.
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>>54825797
also vietnamese's grammar is so easy its basically cheating
>b-but muh tones
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FY1b513hIto
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>>54825305
He doesn't. He has an accent and hesitates a lot.
Even though he speaks those languages, you can clearly see the differences in the vocabulary he uses for each of them. But even if he has a different fluency on each of them, his tone is good for most of them. It shows he invested quite some time on them.
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>>54825858
>Name fag on the shitposting board of the premier Cambodian shadow puppet symposia accusing someone else of being retarded
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UHHHHH
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>>54825913
every language has aspects which make it harder and easier. just because he speaks some similar languages doesnt mean hes cheating and only speaks 4 languages
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>>54825797

Well, time to learn Hungarian, Japanese, Mandarin, Arabic and Vietnamese
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>>54825858
>t. an English-native monolingual who can only count to 10 in one other language

This guy really isn't all that impressive. Once you learn one of those languages, the rest are easy.
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>>54825981

And Turkish
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>>54825916
everyone hesitates even in their native language. his german sounds quite good although he doesnt speak much in the video
>>54825928
>khan
>>54826009
i speak german also f am
>>54826012
>t*rksmell
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>>54825913
Yeah the Dutch jew is right.
If I wanted to learn those 4 languages other than Italian I think I'd manage to do it in a couple years max.
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>>54825971

Learning a language from completely different language groups, with almost no shared vocabulary (with other languages you know) is way, way harder than learning languages from a language group you're already familiar with, which on top of that also shares a massive amount of words with languages you know.

The time investment is not even remotely similar. I'm telling you. Try to learn Korean and compare it to learning Swedish for example. The difference in difficulty is laughable.
>>54825981
Personally, I'm of the opinion that learning any language apart from English is utterly useless (unless you plan on living in a different country), so no thanks. However, I have studied languages like French and German in school, as well as other languages, so I know what I'm talking about.
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His Hebrew is fine, but the accent isn't perfect.
When he is listing languages and says "Dutch" in Hebrew, you can really hear it. Good, but not native good.
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>>54826114
Job opportunities locally?
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>>54826041
>only knows languages with Latin alphabets

WEW
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>>54826193

Job opportunities marginally improve with extra languages, unless, as I said, you're willing to move.

Even then, you won't get a top-tier job abroad just because you speak the language.
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I doubt he has a good grasp pf those languages. If you would ask him "What season is optimal for planting beans and what fertilizer should you use?" in those languages he would fumble like fuck and wouldn't come up with words.
Learning a couple of smalltalk sentences does not equal to knowing a language.
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>>54826114
>Personally, I'm of the opinion that learning any language apart from English is utterly useless (unless you plan on living in a different country)

First of all, I'm Italian.
Italian is my mother language
English is, as you said, always useful
German made me earn money (C1 level)
Chinese to satisfy my yellow fever

I want to learn Chinese to a C1-like level and move to Taiwan permanently. Regardless of this, Chinese can be economically very useful.

Other than that, being able to talk Taiwanese on a smalltalk-level made me earn a lot of respect from the parents of my girlfriend and all people living in her tiny village.
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>>54826041
I want to hear your German because I bet it's fucking embarrassing unless you're an immigrant
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>>54826281
But it opens up a whole new world of cuties
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>>54826114
if you have a good approach (read: not studying) learning any language to a decent standard is possible
>>54826195
aй кaн Pид cиpилик
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>>54826281
Yeah which might not be bad
get to see a different culture and really experience the language
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>>54826311
>implying cuties don't find British English attractive
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>>54825305
my French niece speaks fluent English, German, Spanish, Hungarian, Czech, Croatian, Polish, Finnish, Portuguese and Russian
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>>54826309
im half swiss so i have germanophone background
im in public atm tho
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His Spanish and Catalan was bretty gud. Sounded native at times.
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>>54826311
>>54826361
>>54826372
>>54826305

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for learning languages if you realise that it's not something you should do for utilitarian reasons (learning programming language would be infinitely more useful).

If you do it as a hobby, or because you want to travel, or meet a certain group of people, I'm all for it. It's much more useful than playing video games or posting on 4chan anyway.
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>>54826421
But not French?
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>>54826449
Half-something doesn't mean shit
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>>54826041
>>54826114

The point is that I'm a native Basque speaker
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his intonation sounded foreign but the pronunciation was pretty good
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>>54826473
I thought it was obvious that as a French she speaks French, so I didn't bother listing it.
Also, I'm not saying that she doesn't have an accent and that you wouldn't hear from miles that she speaks, for example, Hungarian as a foreign language, but considering that she's only 20, I'd say that speaking that many languages however funny her accent is is pretty impressive.
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>>54826467
I love it as a hobby, but I think it does open a lot of opportunities, particularly when travelling.
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>>54826449
>half Swiss
>muh heritage
half means one of your parents. Children of Swiss parents are eligible for Swiss citizenship even if born abroad. Show passport or gtfo.
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>>54825305
DELETE THIS, I SEE THIS FUCKING FAGGOT FUCKING EVERYWHERE
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>>54826467
>learning programming language would be infinitely more useful
Note that learning to program is a lot more difficult than learning a language.
From there, it's easier to learn a bunch of new programming languages than a single new natural language.
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>>54826642
>t. I only use OO-languages
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His pronunciation for a few words in Irish wasn't great.
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>>54825305
>Uh Uuh UUuuh Uh ÖÖh ööh UUh
Jesus Christ.

Well, his German is pretty good to be fair, he has only a very slight accent.
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>>54826695
>t. langauges can't be multi-paradigm
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>>54825797
>English
>German
>Dutch
>Norwegian
>Sweedish
>Danish

Literally all count as one language.
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>>54826887
What I wanted to say is, learn Java first as every retarded uni will teach, then move over to Lisp and try to learn some random human language at the same time. What are you probably going to master first?
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>>54826361
Moлoдeц! Oчeнь хopoшo!

Monolinguals are hilarious.
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>>54826987
How many languages do you have?
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>>54826855
Well, he didnt actually say much. And his intonation was kinda off on some parts.(his voice didn't reflect how Germans usually change their intonation when changing from one part of a sentence to another)
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>>54826617
fuck off i dont have one, only an irish passport, anyway im not at home
i spent a lot of time in switzerland as a child
>>54826509
good for you
>>54826987
mein deutsch ist gut genug für kommunikation
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>>54826932

agreed
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>>54828006
Chasch du auch Schwitzerdütsch? Söt ja chais Problem si wenn du als goof Ziit i de Schwiitz verbrocht häsch.
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>>54825305
His french is very good, but he's far from speaking it like a native.
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>>54825541
1 - not a dumb choice

2 - true, he doesn't speak like a brazilian
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>>54826305
老外滚出!!

how's taiwan?
i stayed in taipei for a week
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>>54828430
Taiwan is fine. Consodering to actually move permanently. Kaohsiung is way nicer than Taipei btw desu senpai.
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Most polyglots are notoriously insincere with their language abilities. The only true polyglot I met never mentioned it to me and I had to piece it together after knowing him for a couple of years.

I am very much vigilant about these youtube celebrity polyglots.
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>>54826305
the Chinese love any foreigner who can speak mandarin
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>>54828533
desu 3 languages at a time seems the best in terms of what you will actually use
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don't act surprised if he doesn't sound like a native, it's only possible to get to that level during the childhood
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>>54825305

Je m'appelle anon!
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>>54828657
>this meme
False
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>>54828396
It is a dumb choice, since Brazilian Portuguese is a lot harder than European Portuguese.
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>>54828833
it's not false
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>>54828833
It's only true for danish really. Did you know that on average it takes danish children 4 months longer to start communicating vocally?
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>>54828937
It's false people just don't try
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>>54828937
http://www.fluentin3months.com/adult-learner-research/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationopinion/10315238/Are-children-really-better-at-foreign-language-learning.html
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>>54829049
in regards to the accent, it is clear that you didn't even read those articles.

>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationopinion/10315238/Are-children-really-better-at-foreign-language-learning.html

>Pronunciation is stronger in children (but it doesn’t matter!)
>It’s true, the younger the learner, the better they are at mimicking new sounds and adopting pronunciation. The brain is more open to new sounds and patterns in pre-adolescence, so it is very difficult for older language learners to speak without an accent.
>What’s more, younger learners are more skilled at identifying subtle differences in sounds. This explains why adult learners of English have trouble with minimal pairs like pin and pen, or fries and flies.
>While an adult language learner with a strong accent may seem less proficient, pronunciation is not actually an indicator of fluency. Any confusion with minimal pairs can usually be figured out by looking at context.

In fact this one agrees with my point, and instead tries to downplay the importance of the accent.

>http://www.fluentin3months.com/adult-learner-research/

And this shit doesn't even load.
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>>54828037
>>54826932
Extremely triggered. I'm assuming this is awful b8.
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>Not using the European framework of Reference for Language instead of saying stupid shit like "fluent" and "speaks"

ISHYGDDT
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>>54829206
>accent
Misunderstood then, I was under the impression you were saying adults can't learn languages better than kids.
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>>54828162
nein, ich hab es schade alles vergessenn uezs
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>>54828892
Lol wut?
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apart from the long pauses his hebrew is very good
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>>54828589
as long as you aren't japanese
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My problem is material. I could probably get a grasp of language relatively easily but I don't have anything I want to talk to,listen to, read, watch in other languages. So what's the point?
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doesn't have any "native" accent and you can easily tell he's a foreigner but his language is very good.
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>>54825797
>literally all count as one language

Autism
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>>54830800
foreign women
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>>54825971
t. irish expat
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>>54830800
you're absolutely right. finding interesting material was the hardest part about learning german for me. it made me realize that nearly all the media I consume on a daily basis is in english. literally fucking everything worthwhile is in english.
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>>54831380
oy begorrah this gallaibh knows
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his hebrew was awful
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>>54831749
His Hebrew is just fine you fuckin wannabe
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>>54828937
It's only false if you don't possess any particular vocal talents.

Some people are just naturally gifted in regards to manipulating their voice.
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>>54825305
His spanish sounds almost perfect, his catalan...it's very good but there are some weird things in the way he talks, and as everyone noticed he didn't say much in catalan.
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His french, spanish and italian have very recognizable accents and nobody who talks these languages could possibly mistake him for a native by any stretch of the imagination. His hebrew is actually quite good but he speaks a western dialect. Some intonations in catalan are obviously wrong. I have only elementary knowledge of german but I think several sounds, especially the h/g are wrong. I can't judge the irish though.
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^*¨Spanish with Gallego accent...

a la basura pertenece.
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His spanish is really good, but it still sounds slightly off to me
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>>54833153
for example: he says POrtugal instead of PortugAl
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>>54828162
This is so fucking awful
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>>54825981
Kaixo, from what part of the basque country are you from?
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>>54825913
this autist is right
>tfw my mom thinks that her firends daughter is so smart because she knows a respectable lvl of portuguese while I only know some basic mandarin
>tfw at my uni you don't need to know any portuguese to go and study in brazil as an exchange student because knowing spanish equals knowing around 70% portuguese
I can easilly communicate with a brazilian without having estudied any portuguese while the same can't be said with chinese people
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>>54825913
Yeah, I can confirm from first-hand experience.
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>>54831749
what do you know about Hebrew?
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>>54825305
He speaks american with a funny accent top kek
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>>54834067
She still can do more stuff than you with it though
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>>54834067
>estudied
Ayylmao
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Check these 2 badasees speak multiple languages really well. I'm really into poliglot people but I'm too dumb to learn more than a few languages and stay at a consinent level with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjK6KNowmsE
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>>54828892

No it isn't. Brazilian is way easier.
Take into consideration that almost all learning resources are in BR-PT, that alone makes it easier to learn.

Listen to a BR talk and compare it to someone who's PT. BR's articulate and pronounce everything quite well, with a retarded accent imo.

EU-PT speaks so fast and mumbles half the words.
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>>54826959
>lisp

Why the fuck would anyone do that?
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>guy travels the world, is able to learn languages of all the crazy places he's been

>I struggle with one language and have never left NJ for more than a week

wow i'm so proud of him how could he do it fr*cken crazy!!!
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>>54835171
You'll be happy most people in Europe have never visited an English speaking country yet they manage to speak/read English pretty well. You can do it.
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>>54826959
this: >>54835054

lisp is dead, it's virtually useless - try scala if you're interested in functional programming. In fact, C++11 covers the same functional paradigm as lisp AND OOP, template metaprogramming, etc.
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>>54835228

I don't think I can if I stay here in America desu. There's no one to speak with.

I DO plan on emigrating, but still.
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>>54835171
epic meme
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>>54835343
Use the internet, that's how I did it.
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>>54835171
you probably aren't retarded senpai, if some stupid subhuman barely literate spic from beanerland land can do it, why not you?

it just takes practice and time
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>>54835391

I do. But I'm also trying to learn programming, and work 40 hours a week. I can't put in hours and hours a day.
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>>54835343
You live to NJ, take the train to New York City. You could probably even arrange a meetup on interpals with someone who'd like to practice with you.
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>>54828396
It's a dumb choice because Brazilian Portuguese is a broken 4 year old way of speaking European Portuguese.

If he spoke European Portuguese he could easly use brazilian accent wenever he feels like, however if he learns Brazilian, he will never be able to speak normal portuguese again.

FACT: 95%of the Portuguese can fake a Brazilian accent.

Fact: Brazillians can NOT fake European accents.
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>>54826284

Fucking this. Just because you can order a beer does not mean you know the language.
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>>54825797
>literally all count as one language
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>>54835578
>FACT: 95%of the Portuguese can fake a Brazilian accen

thats not true, and you know it Manuel
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>>54825305
He speak Hebrew the best I heard in videos like that of people speaking multiple Languages like a "Native"
Sometimes he don't have Foreign accent(or "ole hadash" accent ,kek) and sometimes you can her his Foreign accent.
He also have some grammar mistakes.
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>>54825305
Portuguese, English, German, Spanish, a bit of French and learning slowly Japanese to satisfy the weeb in me. Knew a bit of Turkish as I was there for little time and very little remains.
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>>54835911
Yes it is bruh.
Maybe not 95, but over 75.
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>>54835911
>>54836567

Brazilian accent is easy to learn with little effort if you know European PT.

>thats not true, and you know it Manuel
not gonna lie I keked, 3 manuel's on my dads side only
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>>54835578
There's not just one Brazilian accent, there is a different one for every region you go. We have a shitload of dialects.
>95%of the Portuguese can fake a Brazilian accent.
Probably not true. If it was, why would you choose to sound disgusting all the time?
>Brazillians can NOT fake European accents.
Decidedly not true. Portuguese impersonations are one of the most popular and easy ones in Brazil, but we don't talk like that all the time because it's so fucking silly. It boggles my mind how there is an entire pseudo-country full of people with that gypsy dialect.

>>54836901
Yeah, Manuel is the actual stereotypical name for Portuguese people. I'd give my left spleen for 4chan to correct Alberto Barbosa to Manuel Barbosa.
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>>54825305
his german might pass for some piefkes german but he'd stick out like a sore thumb in almost every other region that has it's own way of speaking german
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>>54837233
t. Alberto Barbosa
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>>54837525
You know you're hurting my feelings, Justin.
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>>54837525
>not t.Gabriel Barbosa
disappointed
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>>54825916
I hesitate when I speak finnish, it doesn't count. some people just aren't eloquent.
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>>54837492

>>54837492

Them 10 word he said where ok, no foreign accent, he just need to talk more than that. You can't expect him to speak like voralrberigsch, or whatever it's called.
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>>54836239
>He also have some grammar mistakes.
??
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>>54837233
alberto barbosa sounds much better tho
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>>54832102
This, you should hear my sister's English, Italian and French. We've been to France and we've met Americans here and all of them swore up and down that they thought she was a local.

However it takes her a long time to switch from one language to another, usually if she speaks one she'll stutter and have trouble expressing her thoughts properly in another for about an hour until she gets back into it.

She's bilingual though (finnish/swedish), I'm not, when you teach a kid to juggle two languages from birth it's a cakewalk later on.
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>>54825913
You're not wrong but learning all the idioms, expressions, slang, exceptions still takes a lot of time and dedication, regardless of the language root.

Also, learning 5 romance languages at the same time would quickly turn out to be an absolute nightmare. It'd probably be easier to learn arabic and korean as they are very different from one another.
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>>54825913
Trying to learn Spanish and French I find is very hard because of mixing pronunciation. That one Italian polyglot said to never ever learn similar languages together (his name was Luca something)

I've tried learning German, Spanish and French but my pronunciation is bad for all of them

>>54828657
There's actually an anti-psychotic drug that can allow the brain to revert to some degree to allow this

Terrible side effects though
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>>54835578
>this whole post

Brazilian Portuguese is a more authentic version of Portuguese if anything, unchanged by French like European Portuguese

Fact: there is not one Brazilian accent and you're probably just thinking of Carioca

Fact: the only reason you can fake Carioca accent is because contemporary Brazilian culture is very present in Portugal and the vice-versa isn't true - which kinda fumbles your argument that his choice would be 'dumb' because it's so much more relevant.
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>>54826932
>Sweedish

Why do you fucking foreigners get it wrong every fucking time?
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>>54825305
Is Catalan that different from Spanish? I don't know Catalan but I understood almost everything he said. Almost all the words were exactly the same as Spanish but there was some different conjugation involved I think.
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>>54825928
t. Khan
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>>54828533

I know an American polyglot but he's an exception as both his parents spoke a different language AND he grew up in Hong Kong so once he got his Spanish minor he was fluent in Cantonese, Korean (his mom I think), English and Spanish
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>>54838633
it's when Spanish and French meet
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>>54825305
>that shitty Catalan
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>>54838466
>my pronunciation is bad for all of them
Don't get too hung-up on pronunciation, it comes naturally with usage. Getting the grammar right is far more important.
>There's actually an anti-psychotic drug that can allow the brain to revert to some degree to allow this
Proofs?
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>>54838611
t. Swedenesian speaker
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>>54835171
I struggle with the same, when I move to a new place I adopt the accent pretty fast but I've been away from all the countries whose language I speak for so long that it just deteriorates over time
My English used to be awesome but now I stutter a lot when I speak and make really long, uncomfortable pauses when I forget words
Ironically it's not because I don't use it *enough* it's that I use it everyday with people who speak decent English but make so many tiny, unnoticeable mistakes that I end up adopting their expressions and often catch myself going 'wait a sec, that sounds wrong'. Usually something really small like articles. I often hear "she died on tuberculosis" instead of "of", for example, and it drives me bonkers but I can't correct anyone because then I'd just look like a dick.
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>>54835245
I laughed. Retards spouting random words in the hope it gives them epeen points are the funniest.
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>>54825305
>He allegedly speaks English, Irish, German, French, Hebrew, Spanish, Catalan, Portuguese and Italian.
All are german group. It's like for me learning ukrainian or belarus.
Except for catalan. This dude sucks.
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>>54839041
what?
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>>54839041
>Spanish
>Italian
>Portugese
>German group
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>>54834410
:^)
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>>54839041
Well you don't know what you're talking about.
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>>54838973
Valproic acid. Given now for siezures, anti-pyschosis, bipolar and other mental health issues. They found first that it can reopen musical pitch/tune acquisition, then found it reopens language pitch too.

However, I've read some bad reviews of the drug (am considering switching to it from lamictal), it does fuck with the brain quite a bit. Ironically been reading patients report memory problems, so it may re-energize the part of the brain that learns language pitch as a child but might also stifle memories? also cause lightheadedness

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3848041/
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24831-learning-drugs-reawaken-grown-up-brains-inner-child/
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>>54839327
Memory acquisition is a consequence of melamine hardening, thus getting one without the other would be strange.
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>>54839041
Fucking retard. German and English are the only two Germanic family languages he mentioned. Irish is Celtic. French, Spanish, Catalan, Portuguese and Italian are all Romance. Hebrew is Semetic. He's speaking languages from 4 different language families.
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>>54839041
Lol, fucking retard, come on, learn all this languages. German group, lmao.
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>>54839484
To be frank, the stuff about memory issues comes from people on mental health boards who are on loads of psych drugs and also have things like bipolar which can effect memory too. Never read anything scientific or controlled studies, just personal reviews of the memory issue

For someone like me who's already on lamictal it wouldn't be that big of a deal switching over to a similar class drug (and I would no longer have the chance to die horribly of SJS), but if people here want to try vaporate recreationally for the language bonus they'd need a prescription for it for something severe depression, seizure or bipolar

Antidepressants and antipsychotics have their side effects so weigh the pros with cons
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>>54825305
he doesn't speak spanish as a native speaker
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>>54825305
Can confirm he is in fact speaking English.

His Irish isn't really native level in that video. The only people I've heard say "Gwayle-geh" instead of "Gaeilge" are posh faggots.

But I mean fair fucks to the lad, he's better than 90% of the population.
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>>54825305
I understood the Spanish but have no idea what he said in Catalan. Why can't the Spanish people stop being special snowflake faggots and all speak standard Spanish?
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>>54839023
You have no fucking clue what I'm talking about, so stop commenting on shit, you idiot
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>>54839023
he isn't wrong
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>>54825797
Literally this. I always get disappointed at these kind of faggots speaking almost the same languages and implying they communicate in 20 tongues. And distant languages are always their shittiest ones.
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>>54837233
m8, BR-PT sounds like a fucking donkey having a brain haemhorrage.
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>>54843019
>butthurt because he has no culture
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>>54843019
Everyone there speaks spanish but catalan and basque people still have their own languages too

I can't comprehend why this triggers you
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>>54846734
>PT-PT sounds like a fucking donkey having a brain haemhorrage
Fix'd for ya. And internally you know this is true, Alberto.
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>>54847393
Nah, we may sound like we've had a stroke on both sides of our mouths, but you guys really sound like you're getting buttfucked while you're speaking.
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>>54825797
>french and spanish are the same
b8. Thats like saying english and german are the same and can understand each other perfectly
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>>54825797
>learning turkish unless you want to live in turkey
for what reason? the only other nations we share a linguistic connection with are the ex-ussr turkic states and mongolia
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>>54825687
i knew i knew*
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>>54826361
Aй кaн тy
Hoт дaт хapд дэcy
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The jealousy is strong in this thread. I'm afraid we can't hold out much longer commander, the supported-by-moms are getting overwhelmingly triggered
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>>54828313
Fluent =/= like a native
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