>>54814864 I asked a black lad behind a bar where he was from just to make conversation and he said "here" in Ireland. So I said "Oh okay, I mean where are your parents from then" and he says "here" again.
So I just say "Yeah but you have a thick African accent" and that was the end of the conversation. Why did he do that?
Either you hold them to an outside identity and accept their culture or you allow them to adapt to Irish societal values, which if they "lie" and say they're originally from Ireland, it just means they want to be part of society rather than seen as a foreigner.
Pestering someone and perpetuating them as an outsider who cannot be an Irish citizen is no way to have people want to participate in Irish culture.
>>54815025 He's probably sick of being asked that same question by everyone when he was born in Ireland and doesn't know anywhere else as home. Personally I'd never bring my kids up as a minority, it'd fuck them in the head a bit and they'd probably develop a victim complex. But I guess for a lot of actual refugees (not just economic migrants) they had no choice.
>>54815332 Just imagine a life time of those questions, being constantly made to feel like an outsider in the country you were born in (that you obviously have no control over). You can only politely respond so many times before it just rubs you the wrong way one day. One of my mates is of African descent and he constantly gets asked by most people he meets, he's pretty much always polite about it but sometimes you can see he just can't be bothered.
>>54815501 Then there is this asshole. >>54815468 What I am really getting at is that talking to minorities can be a minefield and they can be very hostile but I do not accept the role of the bigger person just because I am white. I take offense too.
>>54815551 People can be proud to say they're from Ireland or have Irish heritage. People come to your country because theirs is shit. People always complain about how immigrants don't integrate yet when this African man just wants to be part of Ireland, you can't understand why.
Would you be proud to tell people you're from Liberia or Lesotho?
>>54815617 I dont know anything about those places t b h and Ireland had its share of problems in the not too distant past. Anyone telling me they are from a place that sucks would find me being very sympathetic.
>>54816929 probably females or sympathetic blacks ignore their bullshit
I also strike up conversation with total strangers especially when I notice that they are foreign it's my croatian touristic duty as tourism is important for our economy if some foreigner or immigrannt keeps ignoring my questions that will influence my opinion on him
that might make me cold to them and stop talking to them and actually alienating them, and stop their integration
>>54815392 But "you" are an outsider, what's wrong with that? Why would you expect millions of native europeans to pretend you're just like them when you're obviously are not? An African parent in Ireland has to take in account he's condemning his offspring to be an anomaly.
It's probably to avoid being associated with the stereotypes of that country.
I had some white guy ask me how I could have an afro and then acted like the idea of an African Australian was new to him when I told him I was half black. He asked me which country I was from (despite me being born in Aus) and the first thing he said to me when I told him where my dad was from was 'that country has a bad reputation man'.
White people are retards when it comes to race & social etiquette and minorities are more wary of your dumb shit than you will ever realise.
>>54819178 >westerners with their feeeeeeelings and political correctness we are supposed to believe that in country with about 100 blacks, mostly athletes and few foreign students, some black guy is a pure croatian farmer 100% croat, just ignore his lack of knowledge of croatian language, his appearance
it's called being curious and friendly in croatia, here it's normal to tell your life story on a bus stop to some random stranger we go at lengths to help foreigners visiting and like to brag about our knowledge of geography
> missing an arm if I was already speaking to him for 5 minutes I would ask him what happened with arm but people with no arms are still croatian and I would have less things to ask him as we both know what's up in croatia
> a dwarf no point of asking, he has bad genes still there are dwarf croats too (I saw one once... I think) and he would too know what's up
> gay guy. if he is flaming I would just ask him but he is still a croat so not much for inquiry except bunch of gay - related questions like farting during sex and why they like that leather hats
>>54819958 Tell me of their complexion? Do they look like central Europeans? or long faces, darker complexion? I will wager that "croatian gang" is in fact some Albanians trying to be Janjevci or just pure gypsies that bought Croatian passport on black market (keeps happening)
Because Croats do not form gangs, at least not in the last 30-40 years that would be Serbs (even in Croatia when they killed Pukanić with car bomb - owner of newspapers that was investigating cigarette smuggling)
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