East Asia cold snap edition
in no particular order
geographically invited:【Moнгoл Улc】 Mongolia
culturally invited: 【Việt Nam】Vietnam
And everyone else are welcomed!
does this piss you off?
why do vietnamese american (usually socal) girls think they are white?
>tfw fail to socialize and living college life the same way as in China
t. International Student
Yes. Every honors/AP class there was at my high school was a majority Asian (to the point where there would be about 5 non-asians in a class). Of course you do meat some dumbass Asians as you should, but they are certainly a minority.
t. White San Franciscan
the majority of asian girls in california who put on colored contacts and dye their hair blonde are usually vietnamese though (a minority are koreans). what is up with that?
also a great proportion of vietnamese girls burn the coal
Living in Hokkaido, suddenly hear that shit hit the fan on Honshu, and in Korea.
MFW it just continues to be a shitty frozen hell outside.
Nothing changed here :(
its so hot here, anybody want to swap countries
What's the counter-terror security situation like in Brasil this summer for the Olympic games?
I'm okay. Thank you. The symptoms are only cough and minor tiredness. This happens to me every winter. OTC drugs aren't effective at all. So I'll visit doctor in few days.
> Today I have been feeling lazy, so I just watch some TV and play computer game.
That's one of the best way to spend holiday. What kind of TV program and computer game did you enjoy?
> I must return to study in a few weeks since holiday will be over.
So, you are a student. Is it summer vacation in Australia by any chance?
Nice to hear you are okay.
>What kind of TV program and computer game did you enjoy?
I watch a show called "If You Are The One" (English name) and I play "FTL: Faster Than Light". It is really fun.
>Is it summer vacation in Australia by any chance?
Yes, it is summer vacation now. It is really too hot in Australia. I can't go outside on very hot days. 40 degrees. However, recently is it colder.
>"If You Are The One"
I just checked it quickly. It sounds fun to see it. I didn't know such a TV show was popular. I'll check it in youtube or somewhere.
> "FTL: Faster Than Light".
I used to often see it on Steam. The reviews are "overwhelmingly positive" too. Maybe I can enjoy it. Because I once played a tower defense game a lot.
> Yes, it is summer vacation now. It is really too hot in Australia. I can't go outside on very hot days. 40 degrees.
I miss summer. 40 degrees is too hot though. But cold drinks would be delicious in such a hot weather.
> However, recently is it colder.
That's nice to hear. I often hear news about bush fire of Australia. Please be careful and stay safe.
Training. So that at the time when acting on your instincts during that split second makes a difference.
You know that saying, luck comes to those most prepare?
Think it's the same way for courage. It's like, you don't want to do something stupid in the name of having courage. That's just dumb and will get you the Darwin Award for no reason. Natural selection will weed you out and evolution occurs without you. But when you know it's the right thing to do, you just gotta do it.
I think it's all about the risks associated with the situation too. Take for example:
You hear strange noises around your house at night near the door. It's bravery if you go to check out the situation and there's nothing there. It's stupidity if you go to check out the situation and there's a professional serial killer stalking you in stealth mode.
Don't hesitate. When you hesitate you think about your actions too much and then you will end up not doing it. Believe me, anon. I let some girl get away because I hesitate too much.
This is Hong Kong, China.
Those pipes don't look like rain gutters, are those actual plumbing made OUTSIDE of the building?
dat place looks dope.
id live there if there were no slavs, micks, niggers, feminists, anglos, franco scum, huns, churkas, sandniggers, nips, gooks, murrilards, celts, poles, turkroaches, transexuals, homos, guidos, rednecks, hillbillies, wetbacks, shitskins, abos NOT allowed.
If you're particular demographic was not listed and you are not Chinese you are not allowed in my commieblock!
Snowniggers and WASPs will be taken hostage and ransomed as prisoners!!!!
I've never really thought about it but now that you mention it, I guess bamboo scaffolding is pretty hardcore.
>TFW I'll be the last Chink standing
>japanese name tripfag
Question for all.
Why are some mainlanders so rude and annoying outside of China? I hear everyone complain about them, and here in DC, I only have met nice mainlanders.
They tend to stick together, but that makes sense because their english isn't the best.
Is their percieved rudeness a facet of mainland Chinese culture, or is it because they (Han) have been superior for as long as they can remember? And because China has developed so much and become so powerful in such a short time?
How many east asians say they act is how I think Americans (I'm from Europe) act in Europe. Superior, arrogant, and rude.
Could it just be that when you're used to being the strongest, it goes to your head?
Nothing wrong with a little cultural appropriation ;)
>Why are some mainlanders so rude and annoying outside of China?
Dunno, though it could just be that they probably don't know about the cultural norms outside the mainland...I dunno tb-h since I'm Malaysian chinese.
I do know that diaspora chinese tend to have the sentiments you described. Since I never actually interacted with any murican tourists, I probably dunno how they act outside their cuntree.
The perceived rudeness of Mainlanders, I believe, comes from a few things. One is that Mainlanders who do bad things while overseas are the ones who gain media attention while at the same time there's thousands of Mainland tourists who go abroad and don't do anything wrong. Second is for one of the reasons you said:
>because China has developed so much and become so powerful in such a short time?
There are large educational gaps between the old and the young generations of Mainlanders due to the fast development of China.
Perhaps the negative attitude toward China in general in Western media has something to do with it as well - maybe if a Chinese tourist does something bad the media will be more likely to report on it than if a French tourist does something bad, but I'm not completely sure about that.
Another thing is that many Mainlanders, thanks to the Opening Up of China have gotten very rich. Not just "well off" but seriously RICH. This sudden gain of money as compared to the times of hardship under the Cultural Revolution and Mao's rule means that some Mainlanders react by buying overseas houses, luxury items, etc. because some older Mainlanders still may have that "survival" mentality that they needed during Mao's rule, when they had nothing.
Just my 2 cents.
Cultural appropriation in an /eastasia/ thread throws me off though. I thought you were an autistic Japanese student.
I don't think China wants to go through what we did. Viets are too hard to kill.
I agree. It is a combination of factors. There's a lot of growing anti-Chinese sentiment in the world because China has grown so fast and they are finally starting to appear on the world stage.
What better way to get elected in ASEAN that to fire up the nationalism?
Same for Xi. What better way to avoid the shame of all these newly convicted corrupt party members than to cover it with a veil of nationalism?
Chinese being an insular country with a 91% Han majority, its newfound richness, its newness to foreign cultures, and historical anti-Chinese sentiment all coincide to create today's stereotype.
As you said, a few bad apples ruin the bunch. There's more Chinese tourists than American and Indian combined nowadays, so there will be more bad apples as well.
Chinese are known for being quiet and unobtrusive while abroad, so very few notice the good people. They just don't interact much with foreigners.
The whole situation reminds me of the feeling in America of Japan in the 1980's. A quick growing economy, Japanese businesses killing our jobs, them buying up all our real estate, them forming monopolies on certain high-tech goods, and them generally acting superior and standoffish.
It led to America putting tariffs on a lot of Japanese imports, and making it more difficult for foreigners to buy property in America.
welcome man. chill together:33333333333333333
2bh ive had a doubt about that treatment since this thread began. but anyway you dont have to care about such a boring shit, since that is neither a "rule" nor a requirement you have to follow. at least i never even agree what op do and wont follow it.
Hello, /east asia/.
I might be studying one year in Shangai.
Anything I should know? How oppressive is the government?
Should I invest in a VPN to keep fapping on sadpanda/torrent chinese cartoons?
Not very oppressive at all in daily life. You'll only need to worry if you're involved in some large-scale protests or something. Criticism of the government is perfectly fine when done between friends/family.
In many ways, China is kind of like a "wild west." There's no drinking age for alcohol, in lower-tier cities at least (not sure about 1st-tier as in Shanghai I just take the subway) people don't care so much for wearing seatbelts, especially if they're sitting in the back of a car, etc.
I'd recommend watching this video on the topic for a good explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPr-7W5zDJ0
Yes, definitely. you won't need a VPN for torrents because everybody in China torrents. But to access Facebook, Google, etc. you'll need one.
Be open to all types of Chinese food (chicken feet, for example).
Let me know if you have any other questions
t. Lived in China for a short time previously and headed back soon.
Last one of Kashgar. I found some pics of 20th century China that I'll post later.
Are British welcome in Japan?
By the way, /eastasia/ is the most comfy thread alongside /carib/.
Pretty much the same as the Icelandic one.
I had a question I wanted to ask. I might've phrased it too confrontationally. I would just like to know what East Asians think of simpler but phonetic scripts.
I doubt it'll change. Nations and ethnic identity is built upon language.
If they let go of their language they might as well get cucked out of existence amirite tbqh familia?
I'm not even sure how they'd do it. The old and the young would be confused. The language is a little less efficient in writing, but thankfully the world nowadays doesn't write manually nearly as much as they used to.
>Nations and ethnic identity is built upon language.
For sure but changing the script is not quite as dramatic as changing the language. Nordic languages switched from using runes to using the Latin alphabet and I don't think that change is even close to being as culturally damaging as us having to change to a Latin language. The nordics of the time when runes were used probably felt differently, though.
With regards to the old/young thing, it would obviously take a couple generations until the transformation would be completed.
Faroese know all about having our language threatened btw because the Danish tried it for hundreds of years.
In case you actually meant which language we speak here, it's Faroese, but our alphabet is almost identical to the Icelandic version of the Latin alphabet.
unfortunately I couldnt meet up with her. she was being a dumb bitch. maybe I can turn things around with her and meet her later this week tho. if not, i will go search for more girls
post the pics pls
good stuff lad. when do you think you'll be home
i got some soles pic of this one chink slut that does yoga that i stalk on wechat, even though i've never met her and she hardly ever talks to me. kek
your two cents are worthless. Despite being staying in China for a period of time, you still haven't discover the essence of the so-called china rudeness. But since I'm Taiwanese, people will just assume I'm butthurt about mainland and discard my opinion. Still you bet your ass there is no one in the world knows china newly gained "attitude" more than us.(same language/ethnicity, similar culture, geographically inseparable yet somehow stands in opposite side)
And yes, I believe they will share the world with US/EU but not going to be a sole superpower in the future.
yeah, i said 15 minutes 40 minutes ago lmao
what's your ID
In America Vietnamese Americans does poorly along with all south east asians apart from Filipinos.
South east asians tends to do poorly in the USA education scene.
What's wrong with it? It just looks like China is trying to genocide all that practice it because it's a threat to their "extremely stable" regime and people are fighting back externally.
>It just looks like China is trying to genocide all that practice
China's history is full of cult leaders throwing massive amounts of brainwashed peasants against the regime. Some fail, some don't.
Yellow Turban, and the Taiping Rebellion are examples.
Not really, they're just smart enough to stay out of the radar for regular idiots.
Old China pictures time.
>A Boat On A River With Rolling Hills In The Background In The Kiangsu Province Or Yunnan Province In China
That was taken in 1946
>A Chinese Professor, China [c1919]
I stand against censorship and the idea that people don't have a right to practice whatever they want however they want. I have only just heard of this thing today and no one wants to enlighten me on what is actually wrong with this. And the only sources that back up any of your claims about it being a CIA ploy to overthrow the government are a bunch of .cn sites which are about at trustworthy as RT's reporting on Russia.
>China's history is full of cult leaders throwing massive amounts of brainwashed peasants against the regime.
Fair enough, but if there was no merit to anything these people had to say why would it be a problem for the government? As far as I can tell, it seems the communist party has no faith in their people to have faith in them.
>Aerial View Of Terraced Fields & Roadway With A Military Vehicle In A Mountainous Region Of The Kiangsu Province Or Yunnan Province In China 
>China, Kuan Hsien Temple 
>present day location...Guan Xian, Sichuan Sheng, China.
>China, Manchu Ladies Of The Palace Being Warned To Stop Smoking [c1910-1925]
> And the only sources that back up any of your claims about it being a CIA ploy to overthrow the government are a bunch of .cn sites which are about at trustworthy as RT's reporting on Russia.
The Falun Gong is an international media empire with its own Satellite TV, performance art troupe, parade bands, radio, newspaper, international and US lobby groups staffed by ex-CIA members, hacker groups etc. It is basically a more successful and Chinese version of the Scientology cult.
The Falun Gong practices faith healing and pressures its followers to "donate" to buy faith materials, which is how it receives a lot of funding to run the above. However, obviously just running off the salaries of its horde of stupid cultists aren't enough for everything, so the US Senate (and you, as taxpayer) pays the difference.
>Fair enough, but if there was no merit to anything these people had to say why would it be a problem for the government?
It's a fucking cult, they prey on idiots. People are generally stupid enough to fall for it. That doesn't mean the government shouldn't be involved to put a stop to it.
>Der Abt Des Klosters (The Abbot Of The Monastery), Tíen Túng Sze, Chekiang Province [c1906]
>Imperial Gate Of The Imperial City, Looking North, Peking, China 
>Mercenary Artillerymen Supplied With Guns & Ammunition By The British [c1880]
>It is basically a more successful and Chinese version of the Scientology cult.
Now we're getting somewhere. From the way you describe it, it sounds exactly like Scientology without the ridicule.
>That doesn't mean the government shouldn't be involved to put a stop to it.
Actually it does. If the government found out Falun Gong was feeding money into ISIS or was funding movements to overthrow the Chinese government then they would have a case to take action, but as it is now it's nothing but a potential threat to them. Before they go to start and prosecute thought crime they should at least have proof that there is something actually going on rather than a claim that there "could be".
>Natives At Breakfast, Movable Chow Shop, Canton, China [c1919]
>Produce & Wares From Shops Along The Sides Of A Typical Backstreet, Western District, Hong Kong Island [c1946]
>Queen's Road On Chinese New Years Day, Hong Kong, China 
>Seated Man Amid Baskets Of Fish & Hanging Dried Fish, Eastern Districts, Hong Kong Island [c1946]
>The Harvard Houseboat, Kiating Fu, China 
>Leshan, Leshan City, Sichuan Sheng, China
Many affairs in China can't be explained by some simple logic like "they fight against government so they are good", there are much more background details. One of the background information is that religion fraud prevails in East Asia and most of them are in the name of Buddhism (if you r a weeb, you might know the story of Senjougahara's mom). Another background information is that once in 1980s Qi Gong (some traditional Chinese meditation method similar to yoga)was very popular in China. Then many Qi Gong masters at that time developed their own philosophy and utilize media to spread their thoughts as religions. They commercialized, delivered speeches and wrote books. Falun Gong was one of the most famous among them. Things were not bad at beginning but later members began to rip people off and the fraud crimes soon became nationwide. Some members get arrested for their crimes while Falun Gong consider it as persecution and organized people to besiege the office of central government (imagine some religious groups surround White house, I know it can be tolerated in US but absolutely not for CPC). So the party tightened its policy on religious crime and forbade some illegal ones. Besides, the leader of Falun Gong became a political offender due to the movement of surrounding central government and flee to US to seek for help. That's why you mostly hear that Falun Gong accuse CPC of religious persecution. Many other Qi Gong religion continued in China till people no longer gave a shit about their religion. There is indeed procedural injustice in the view of westerner but it can't be naively interpreted as "government persecute good religion". Also another negative affect of these religions was that they deceived a bunch of still superstitious people into not seeing doctor and died at home because of some ridiculous treatments.
>Actually it does. If the government found out Falun Gong was feeding money into ISIS or was funding movements to overthrow the Chinese government then they would have a case to take action
>was funding movements to overthrow the Chinese government
That's exactly what happened? The Falun Gong had government officials joining the cult, and when the central government told it to fuck off, hundreds of thousands of Falun Gong cultists swarmed the main office for a protest.
That's why the CCP cracked down. They don't take attempts at intimidation kindly, especially from a cult.
Falun Gong is like America's fundamentalist Mormons.
It would be better if they were not around, but we put up with them because we believe in freedom of religious practice.
China is different as are many other cultures. The blight of religious fundamentalists in China is considered by many Chinese to affect not just the fundamentalists, but the society as a whole. Because the society is affected, the government should regulate or dismiss the religious fundamentalist group.
China is a much more unitary society formed around solidarity with each other.
Of course breaking apart Falun Gong helped the CCP. I dislike the CCP.
But if a government is able to break apart horrible groups that harm society via social methods, I am okay with it. China's is able to, so they should do it.
America's is not. So we do not do it.
What are some things to do in Taiwan during the summer? Specifically from end of June to end of July? I will be staying with family and will have approximately $4000US to spend on travel and food.
Will anything in Taiwan change with the election of the anti-China president?
How do I not 'stick out' while I'm traveling? I look local but can't read or write Mandarin. I can speak and hear it fine.
This was a really good post and it explained a lot, thank you. However, I still cannot agree with the Communist Party's course of action as it was exactly the wrong way to handle this. By suppressing their right to free assembly they had initiated the Streisand effect. Had they have ignored them, they likely would have just fucked off in a few days and no one would have cared, but they decided to force them out or straight up impression them.
>Also another negative affect of these religions was that they deceived a bunch of still superstitious people into not seeing doctor and died at home because of some ridiculous treatments.
Fuck Christian Science
>The Falun Gong had government officials joining the cult
That's not funding a movement to overthrow the government, that just people converting to a different religion. It is in no way comparable to Falun Gong creating a weapon caches and raising an army with the intent to storm the Chinese parliament (or whatever the system is) in a coup.
>if they had ignored them they would have fucked off
Naive. As he explained Falun Gong was around for a number of years before it radicalized. They weren't going anywhere.
Falun Gong were a blight on Chinese society. The dismissal of the group was a good thing. Of course it helped the CCP, but that doesn't mean the CCP didn't do something good.
Scientology hurts more than just the people who practice it. This is even more true for Falun Gong in a third world society like China.
It's like tolerating a pro-Sharia law party.
The French and Swiss banned the fuck out of those parties by the way. I'm not so sure about in America, but our official party registration standards are extremely strict.
>Will anything in Taiwan change with the election of the anti-China president?
Nothing much considering this new lady isn't as anti-China as Chen Shuibian, and Chen Shuibian got jailed for his trouble.
If you can speak and hear it just fine, there's no worry you'll "stick out" more than any other tourist.
>Had they have ignored them
Arab Spring happened because the government ignored them, to their detriment. You don't "ignore" threats to your power, especially when they try to obviously subvert it as the Falun Gong did.
>That's not funding a movement to overthrow the government
They are converting GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS of an officially atheist state.
And then they surrounded government HQ with a horde of cultists when the government told them to fuck off.
>Arab Spring happened because the government ignored them, to their detriment. You don't "ignore" threats to your power, especially when they try to obviously subvert it as the Falun Gong did.
It varies how people react from cultural to culture. Considering the Syrian civil war is under way because they tried to suppress Arab Spring in their country, it was a lose lose situation all around.
>an officially atheist state.
The whole prospect of this is ridiculous. You should not have state religions because all it does is fuck up your country in a multitude of ways, for example the entirety of the Middle East. not to mention that it is an infringement of human rights.
Your whole argument relies on the idea that the people of China are stupid as a whole which is entirely not true. I don't care that Falun Gong did more harm than good to the state and the people, but it is the people's right to be wrong. It is in no way the state's decision to dictate what you can and cannot believe. And again, if an idea had to merit to it, it would not get anywhere. I mean just look at all these failed parties in the US, currently my favourite being the Communist Party (pic). They get nowhere because the majority of people know they are full of shit.
Sorry if my latter post is of poor quality, it was basically a streamline of thought
"Resorting to the extremes is the argument of the idiot"
Just because the government shut down Sunni extremists and Syrian democrats and led to a civil war doesn't mean they shouldn't have tried.
Look at Egypt. They took down dictator, elected a literal Islamist, then supported another dictator who they later elected unopposed with 97% of the vote.
Shutting Falun Gong down was the right thing to do and Chinese agree.
This happened in 1996-1998. China was an order of magnitude poorer and less developed in those days.
You also forget that China has 1.4 billion people. In 1996 nearly one billion were uneducated and poor and superstitious.
A hundred million religious idiots trying to overthrow the state is a BAD thing. If they were liberal democracy lovers I'd support them. BUT THEY WERE NOT.
They were bad by any measure. And they were harming others.
You have the naivete of an 18 year old who just learned about the Libertarian party.
Anything to do with PRC and Unification lol
>I look local
I guess you might be an Asian American. Given that, you might be considered Hong Konger judging by your accent and treated decently unless you are really fluent in Mainland Mandarin.
>Is there anything in particular that I 'shouldn't wear' or anything
No. You can wear anything you want in Taiwan.
Dress like the guy in picture and go around to people saying, “我是美国人。我是朋友”
Do this to everyone you see and you will get mad pussy.
>>A hundred million religious idiots trying to overthrow the state is a BAD thing.
But this wasn't happening. The only thing that is absolute about anything I've been reading is that they had converted a few government officials. So far no proof has been given for them funding terrorist groups, building weapon caches, etc. I cannot simply come to the conclusion that Falun Gong was out to overthrow the government by only the word of the Communist Party.
>You have the naivete of an 18 year old who just learned about the Libertarian party.
I'd prefer not to resort to ad hominems since it is in no way a good way to make an argument or convince your opposition to side with you. And as it is, I've tried to keep an open mind to why they deserve to be prosecuted but been given insufficient evidence as to why they should be.
Don't forget to say this with a funny white guy accent or else it won't work.
Read up on Positive and Negative freedom. Religious cults destroy freedom much more than they increase it. What is freedom if it just makes you a raving lunatic praising Rhino tusks as the cure to cancer?
Maybe one day you'll realize religious cults are NEVER a good thing for a society. They are a blight that harm the weak the most and should be removed.
This is a comfy thread so I'm ending this discussion now.
Thank you for humouring my ideas and challenging them. It's rare to find people with a difference of opinion whom I can have good conversations with without it just devolving into insults and such. I'll end it here as well.
동 is syllable 'dong' in Hangul. In this case it stands for Hanja 東 which means east
아 is vowel 'a' in Hangul. In this case it is the initial of 아시아 which is the transliteration of Asia
Thank you again for the pictures. I have never seen many pictures of 19th century China. They really just concentrate on the civil war and WWII in Chinese History.
By the way I was really surprised that /east asia/ survived the night. Usually it dies when we go to sleep. Thank you Americans.
he used it as the meaning of already.
but もう also means already, anymore, its about time that, more, cant even, and shit like these. you should get it not as its meaning in itself but as each functionality in different situations.