Why are the europeans so much better than North Americans at esports?

>>54078136
better population density, better pings between the teams to practice

It is cold as fuck here. So the best thing to do is sit inside and play video games

>>54078304
This was maybe an issue in the early 2000s. Not so any more.
Teams live together now anyway.

>>54078136
because unitedstatians are not fully white

americans are console gamers first and foremost

>e """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""sport""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""s

Daily reminder that US SMFC is literally Nova 2 in EU.

>best League of Lelgends team in USA
>60% european players
It's like pottery

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>>54078136
Because they can't compete in real sports

>Inb4 Divegrass is a "sport"

>>54079303
Divide the US score by 50 since it's basically 50 countries in one.

>esports
being 14 must be fun

>>54079303
>over 60 times the population
>only 9 times the medals
you just can't make this shit up

But the undisputed best team in the world for the only esports that matter (Dota 2) is American.

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>RNG
>slow as fuck
>everyone dies from one hit so that shitters have a chance to get kills too
>no pickup locations to memorize
>3 weapon limit
>no projectile weapons

nice "competitive" shooter, counter-casuals

>>54079568
>>54079432
By that logic, China performed very poorly in Olympics and Finns and Swedish are actually the best...?

>>54079637
The only way they can hope to compete is through technicalities

>>54079609
It's the best fps esport by far.

>lots of displays of skill
>lots of strategy and tactics
>potential for amazing comebacks and turnarounds
>overtime is hype af

>>54078136
europe has a longer more mainstream tradition of PC gaming while americans play on consoles. the cod console "esports" "scene" is dominated by americans. growing up everyone I knew had a PC capable of at least some gaming. cool kids and sport jocks etc. played counter-strike, not halo or gears of war.

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>>54079739
you mean 1.6 right?
>>54079637
pretty much

>>54078136
It's because of Sweden, the home land of rats.

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>>54079814
whoops that was sochi alone here is all time

>>54079884
No Hockey Gold :^)

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>>54078136
http://www.esportsearnings.com/players

>>54079884
Now imagine if Finland and Sweden was still united

GOAT

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>>54079962
soon™

>>54079739
>lots of displays of skill
Arena shooters have a steeper learning curve and a higher skill ceiling than CS does
>lots of strategy and tactics
Literally every other shooter has strats and tactics as well
>potential for amazing comebacks and turnarounds
literally every arena shooter does this as well
>overtime is hype af
can't argue with that

>>54080047
arena shooters are autism
cs is teamwork and actually fun

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>>54078852
>best Dota team in USA
>1 poo in loo, Allah akhbar and a Uzbeki trash

>>54079884
You can't count winter olympics
Winter Olympics consist of meme sports that only a few nations even have the weather to compete in. They are about as relevant as the X-games.
Everybody can do the Summer Olympics

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>>54080015
>gustav magnusson
>magnusson
at last i see

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>>54080015
The most based people on that list:
- Puppan
- Jaedong
- Arteezy (BabyRage)
- Zai
- icex3

t. Esports expert

>>54080179
winter olympics best olympics desu senpai

NEET bux

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>>54080230
Son of Magnus, arise!

>>54080139

Are you making fun of arteezy you piece of shit?

>>54080320
4 ti winners and Artour

>>54080230
lmao US as alch orge

>>54080139
That makes Euros look worse if "trash" can be world champs

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>>54080320
Canadian of the year every year

>>54080320
rtc is just a meme

>>54078136
Americans are busy making these games to sell to unmotivated europeons. We use our free time for constructive recreational activities.

>>54078136
Dunno because there is no esports scene here.

>>54080139
This is why all of you American dissers on /int/ are fucking fags.
If anything EG is what America is all about - the land of opportunity. Bunch of 3rd worlders coming to the U.S.A, becoming the best at their thing, and succeeding massively.

It's beautiful. It's glorious. Meanwhile the best your fucking Somalian shithole has to provide is a team of fucking frauds who can only play effectively in one specific meta.

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Canada, home of great Esports profiles.

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>>54080432
b-but singuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

>>54080124
>arena shooters are autism
Arena shooters have a higher skill ceiling, which proves that CS does not deserve the title of "the best fps esport by far"
>cs is teamwork and actually fun
Arena shooters have teamwork as well, nigger. Also, going fast is more fun than going slow. CS has boring movement compared to games with rocketjumping, walljumping etc. It doesn't help that the game only has hitscan weapons

>>54080391
nobody is disputing EG is a good team. but NA vs EU isn't measured by just one team representing the region. NA has literally no other tier 1 teams and these days it's hard to even call any NA team tier 2.

>>54079568

It's not like there's a number of medals available that is exactly proportional to the global population, so your metric is garbage.

>>54080506

Is not a good player, unfortunately.

>>54080432
who is harstem
who is grubby

It's more acceptable to be a professional gamer in Europe than in the united states.

In the US you're mostly viewed as a man child who should get a real job.

>>54080423
Tbh this

You're consuming our culture and you don't even know it

>>54078136
americans prefer playing games on consoles.

>>54080762
>deadcraft
>2 people out of 16 million

>>54080806
so if you hire a mexican maid to cook you dinners the way you demand it cooked you're consuming mexican culture and don't even know it?

>>54080852
>not knowing both from wc3 over sc2
>most prevalent rts scene in europe back when rts = esports
>no esports culture

>>54080865
Only if they cook a Mexican dish.

>>54080230
>Riki isn't Russian
>Huskar isn't Brazil
Fuck off

>>54080913
but these games are created and balanced around the esports scene = created for europeans and asians = not a mexican dish

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>>54080506

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>>54078852
>>54080139
>You can't be American unless you're a white guy named Cletus

>>54081038
Sumail is literally a paki shit.

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>>54081038
Just a bit o banter lad

luv ya

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I lost interest when Brood War died out.

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Posting some of my bait images from back in the day

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>>54081235
That made me sad also, I followed SC2 for a time but it was just so fucking lame. Stopped at the end of WoL. Moved on to LoL, then got bored of it, so on to Dota. And a bit of CS. Fucking love doters desu.

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>>54081316

>>54080432
FEBIVEN GREATEST MIDLANER WORLD

>>54081352
Pretty similiar for me except I stuck around for like 6 months of heart of the swarm because at least it wasn't broodlord-infestor. Switched to CS:GO and 1500 hours later got fed up how every patch made it more shit and less like 1.6 and switched to dota.

>>54081025
>but these games are created and balanced around the esports scene = created for Europeans
This is what Euros actually believe

Forget that Esports began in the US and that some of the largest competitive tournaments are held in the US and most of their playerbase is centered in the US. Lets just take the credit for game decisions like a bunch of cunts...

>>54081452
>Esports began in the US

wut? I watched CS 1.3 or 1.4 on television like 15 years ago and I'm pretty sure koreans were ahead of that as well

>>54081516
>The earliest known video game competition took place on October 19, 1972 at Stanford University for the game Spacewar. Stanford students were invited to an "Intergalactic spacewar olympics" whose grand prize was a year's subscription for Rolling Stone, with Bruce Baumgart winning the five-man-free-for-all tournament and Tovar and Robert E. Maas winning the Team Competition.[14] The Space Invaders Championship held by Atari in 1980 was the earliest large scale video game competition, attracting more than 10,000 participants across the United States, establishing competitive gaming as a mainstream hobby

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>>54081352
Brood War was broadcast around 5am where I live on the east coast of NA. I would stay up all friday night, go to bed early on saturday to get up at 5 and watch with IRC chat and /v/. It was the comfiest thing ever while it lasted

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>>54081316
Fucking love tasteless, what a guy.

His wit and humor got me into Brood War and esports

>>54081569
competing for the high score of pong is not esports. what matter is where the first pro players where and I'm pretty sure it was korea and then EU

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>>54080793
>>54080806

>>54081618
I read somewhere that GSL is bringing back BW broadcasts with english cast

>>54078136
E-"Sports"

Fuck off

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>>54081618
>violet_trollan.jpg
My best friend loves that image, kek. That pleased look on his face. Hah. RIP.

Miss all the great leagues, the OSLs, MSLs, etc. It was so great seeing the storylines for each develop

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>>54081627
>competing for the high score of pong is not esports.

Ummmm yes it is. They're competing via an electronic medium

Don't give me bullshit semantic arguments.

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>EG fangays

>>54081764
It's being competitive in a video game, it's not esports tho. Esports is more organized.

>>54081718
ok brit sir. whatever you say.

>>54081764
with that definition everyone who's ever visited an arcade where the machine tracks high scores is a part of ELECTRONIC SPORTS.

esports = professional

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>>54081831
GOAT webm

Never get tired of that shit

>that midas
>that feed
>that gg
So good

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>e"sports"

>>54078136
jobless commies have plenty of time

>>54081891
A fucking tournament for a subscription to Rolling Stone, while petty, is definitely organized. I don't see your point
>>54081937

>with that definition everyone who's ever visited an arcade where the machine tracks high scores is a part of ELECTRONIC SPORTS.

If there was a prize for said high score, then yes that's exactly what it means. This isn't difficult to understand

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>>54081989
I miss Trixi ;_;

>>54082054
for some reason it's really popular in sweden

anyway, it seems incredibly manchildish to me

but then again I enjoy competitive chess so maybe I'm not better

>>54082090
where do you derive this definition and why do you think it's the correct one?

the definition of sports doesn't include anything about a prize so it can't be that. but all video games aren't esports so there must be something else in the definition that sports don't include.

you say prize, i think that's dumb because you could have a farmville contest or tamagochi contest or a contest for building the nicest minecraft world and those aren't esports. professional players is a much better definition

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No tournament will be as comfy as TI2

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>there are people in this world who dont worship Saahil "UNiVeRsE" Arora as their lord and savior
you literally cannot be any more of a heretic

>>54078852
I thought LeL teams imported koreans?

>>54082492
Isnt that TI3

>>54082642
Some guy said that they limited the numbers of koreans per team as else they would all be koreans

fuck chinese teams, they ruined dota
i always associate them with boring farmfest matches, euro teams are the most fun to watch, especially based navi

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>>54082719
Yes, but I couldn't find any TI2 image saved

>>54082858
SeemsGood THANKS PURGE SeemsGood

>>54078136
Because Europeans can live on neetbux and also have a more shut-iny life due to more population density and less freedom to move out.

On the other hand Americans don't get neetbux and welfare from whcih they can leech and practice with, in addition they have a more "free" lifestyle and go outside more often.

>>54079814
>>54079884
Firstly winter olympics is dumb because only a few countries even give a shit about it (read. the ones which actually play it and live in snowy countries)

Secondly, comparing per capita medals on the olympics is COMPLETELY retarded simply because you can only field a limited number of athletes. That means unless your population is ridiculously low you will always have a full team of some skill, and while bigger countries have an advantage due to a bigger talent pool, they suffer from a diminishing returns when compared on a per capita basis.

Comparing olympics on per capita is LITERALLY desperate, pathetic and not at all accurate.

>>54079637
Yes, that is correct logic.

quality versus forced quantity

>>54082119
he sounds immature as fuck

everyone itt go back to >>>/v/ and kill yourselves afterwards. fucking manchildren. sage.

>>54082119
damn Trixi HoN times ;___;

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>>54083020
>tfw no Purge bf
>>54083159
He's Finnish, so yeah.

Why is CSGO the best esport game out there? Not so fast weeaboo MOBA players. (Navi best csgo and guardian best awper)

>>54083648
objectively speaking the best game is chess

>>54083648
its not, RTS is the best (too bad its dead), FPS games are too reliant on reflex rather than on skill

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>>54083648
I'd say that dota is better in terms of watchability, the first person viewpoint is much less optimal for spectating, the rounds get a bit repetitive and the hype has a better progressing of rising within one game.
On the other hand, those long bo5 are too fucking long in dota.


From the point of caster soap operas, dota wins flat out, they literally have esports big brother

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>>54083648
>best game allows confirmed cheaters (flusha) to compete with several unconfirmed cases that are not investigated
nah

>>54083054
triggered for living in a shit country that can't match nordic power

>>54083859
I'm sorry, that post is horrible in terms of grammar and sentence structure, I feel ashamed.

>>54079884
>counting winter olimpcis

>>54083728
Plenty of skill in cs

>>54083859
Those fucking legs tho...

>>54085395
average
as
fuck

people on the internet are thirsty as fuck

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>there will never be a twitch stream as awesome as EU couch

>>54085481
Hey man I'm not complaining about your tastes, leave me alone

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There is literally nothing sadder than caring about and discussing gookclick

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>>54085500
GOAT