How are the americans going to deal with the inevitable european white-flight towards their country? Will you accept us or close your gates?
If Iceland get some natural resource boom and then some service industry up and running, their immigration rates would increase.
What countries is it even possible to white flight to these days?
Iceland and... ?
So what, stop being racist. Your descendants will save money on sunscreen, anyway whiteness is just a characteristic like hair colour not that it actually means anything
Look at the demographics from 1940s's and predict from those what today looks like, I dare you.
Also, the European infertility seems to be infectious because immigrants lose their fertility rates when they settle here.
You are nothing but pussy who has been living in a bubble your whole life, and now when the first storm hits you wanna abandon the boat, instead of trying to keep it afloat? AND YOU CALL YOURSELF PATRIOT?
US will become a bigger shithole in the future. I have absolutely no reason to flee as Czechia will prosper in the future but if I had to my choice would be Argentina or Uruguay, possibly southern Brazil if things improved there drastically.
yeah, this >>54023399
most research shows that immigrant natality levels fall to western levels by 2nd, 3rd generation
And even if, for some demented reason, we would keep importing them (but we won't, sweden has closed borders, germany is already slowly closing them) and had like a gigantic, 30% islamic minority, that still means most (even some of those 30%) of people would resist and ACTUAL sharia state.
You really let the /int/ and /pol/ memes get to you, the world doesn't work as you imagine.
>most research shows that immigrant natality levels fall to western levels by 2nd, 3rd generation
This depends on the immigrant group. In Sweden only 2nd-gen Iranians have as low fertility as Swedes while pretty every other non-Euro group have higher rates, often above replacement level.
Going to be hard to beat our Democrats in letting that happen since they know you aren't lolfreevotes for 3 generations
>Pull into Karelia
But we only control like 30% of the Karelia anymore :((
Also Karelia is in the south, now Kainuu, that shit is a wasteland. 22000 sqkm of land, and 70000 people.
Even most Finns don't know why there are people living.
If we were to accept you, we would have to accept the mentality that caused Europe to fail. That's a poor decision from our perspective, you allowed this to happen.
Fight it at home before you try to come here.
>white flight into the US in 50-100 years
You know how stupid that sounds.
>unironically being a dummy
Do you still believe that IQ doesnt matter, or that the culture that the immigrants bring with them wont chnage Sweden(and the rest of Europe) for the worse?
You dont? Personally I find non-whites less attractive. And if we were to mix with non-nordics Norwegians and Swedes would become extinct
Our people will just be a note in the history books
it's just general populistic fearmongering, doesn't matter if you get it from /int/ or your local TV.
yeah, this is the problem with badly controlled or uncontrolled immigration of large groups of uneducated people. It might take longer, because it's structurally a much larger population to affect, but it can be done (as long as you don't segregate them, look what happened to the irish in the British Empire or the niggers in USA)
should end when the last humans decompose desu
I think to be safe when our sun becomes a red giant, wiping all living life out
Islamic caliphates can't survive those temperatures desu
and no apex predators to take our place aside from heat-tolerant thermopilic shrimp
end space exploration, etc.
What the fuck are you even referring to. Hispanics are buttmad because we enforce immigration law you dumb faggot. Blacks want to eternally suckle on the government program tit and as long as that means being solidly Democrat for the forseeable future they will continue to vote so.
To some degree niggers are fine because the Scandinavian Jante mentality is awful.
As I said: To some degree
Some enrichment is fine. Ghetto, rape, unemployment and rudeness is not.
Immigrants like to live among their own and its not possible split up their communities. Also, there are probably genetic differences between the different populations which contribute to the gap in fertility levels.
How about Ethiopia? They might not be white, but are good christians, they even have the ark of the covenant and they already hit their historical lowpoint in like the 70's, so shit is imporving there.
America is righfull mexican inmigration clay, 50 million of mexibros and counting
yurofags can fuck off, first they lost their colonies, now their own countries.
Trust me murricans, they will bring faggotry and tolerance to America, and eventually force massive muslim and african inmigration, just like europe, you dont want that.
And Jews, and Asians, and every other small group in this country because Republicans have an idea of American-ness that is a holdout from Jim Crow. Like the Obama birth certificate stuff was hilarious to me but it would make me so buttmad if I wasn't white
They can't even talk to cultural conservatives among American Hispanics, they can't even talk to achievers in the black community because their "base" (that's enough to get them all the low turnout local elections) doesn't want to be seen with those people
Honestly it is the most interesting African country in my opinion but too poor for my tastes, I'm not that adventurous and I want to live in a comfy fairly rich country. The fact that they are christians doesn't really mean anything to me, much better than islam but worse than no religion.
look I'm not going to go into the genetics argument with you, after that mexican fiasco some time ago...
but concerning segregated communities, that indeed is a possible problem and needs to be tackled by the government.
But it's not impossible to solve, here, we got a very sizeable refugee influx in the 90s during the balkan wars (5% of our population, making the bosnians and serbs about 8-10% of the population). Initially, crime levels rose, you had a bit of that violent gangs phenomena, the immigrants were less educated, had lower paying jobs.
Today, they are on a good road to integration, a large majority speaks the language, 3rd generation has almost equal education and wages and so on. Admiteddly, a bosnian is much more compatible to a slovenian than an arab is to a swede, but what I'm saying is that it can be done.
not as much
>Republicans have an idea of American-ness that is a holdout from Jim Crow
No, that's just a meme Demotards like to spout, it lacks substance
>They can't even talk to cultural conservatives among American Hispanics, they can't even talk to achievers in the black community because their "base" (that's enough to get them all the low turnout local elections) doesn't want to be seen with those people
did you miss the part where I pointed out that Democrats have been furiously attempting to prevent this phenomenon for the last 50 years? Black achievement is bad news because that means less perennial voters.
Even all of this Trump shit, all he's done is say that illegal immigrants are bringing crime and committing a crime by crossing and that it needs to be stopped, and all of you insecure faggots immediately translated that as categorical racism across the board against every race
It's not that Republicans are anti-minority, it's that Democrats will bite on the first chance to label them as racist because it's a memey scary word
>Admiteddly, a bosnian is much more compatible to a slovenian than an arab is to a swede, but what I'm saying is that it can be done.
I alot more pessimistic. Gothenburg(second largest city) is already the per capita leader in Europe at recruiting fighters for ISIS, and that was before the current immigrant wave. Many of the muslims in Europe tend radicalize in the 2nd gen.
What makes you think America is any better, America was the fukn model for these cucked countries. Its probably worse since the kike is strongest in America and most white Americans will have to contend with the fact that their children will probably marrry someone from a different race since race mixing is celebrates there. Youre better off in Australia where most minorities are highly intelligent Asians and most people (around 90 percent) are white
>Republicans aren't racist, Trump's not a bad guy, just thinks immigrants are criminals
>Blacks can't achieve
>I'm not racist
Your post is so ironic it's funny, also live in California, tons of asians and jews
To add to this, Trump's ideas actually serve to strengthen those underachieving minorities currently here. He wants to tighten borders and enforce law, which frees up the labor pool for the lower-skilled citizens already here. Democrats are fine with flooding the market, displacing an entire class of people, and putting them on perpetual welfare servitude.
Trump wants to but a temporary ban on an ideology of people that promote seperate rule of law that oppresses women and homosexuals and encourages violence, and yet "liberals" think that welcoming all of them with open arms is a great idea.
Who's the wolf here?
>worse than no religion
Worse than American style militant atheists?
>he lives in California
ah, this makes sense, I shouldn't have wasted the finger effort
>Many of the muslims in Europe tend radicalize in the 2nd gen.
yeah, that happened here (well, it was more about teenagers fighting in the street rather than full blown jihadists), but then subsided.
It's a complex problem, on one hand the solution is getting rid of ISIS, which has roots with the wahabbists and that's an american thing, then on the other hand there's the handling of the refugees and the situation with Turkey....
It's not ideal, but what I'm saying is, it won't be sharia law in 50 years and we won't get outbred by the muzzies.
More people will get killed by AKs or raped though, but even then, probably less than get killed in traffic accidents.
>To add to this, Trump's ideas actually serve to strengthen those underachieving minorities currently here.
They are underachieving because goverment spoiled them to the point where the jobs taken by immigrants are not fancy enough for them.
eh, I'll take an edgy atheist who at least tries to think rationally but may act obnoxiously in conversations about religion than a person who doesn't think rationally and just accepts lies. Also countless of studies have proven that the more smarter people are (in terms of highest education attained or IQ) the more likely they are to be atheist.
The problem with american style militant atheist is the fact that they are american.
swede nationalist guy posted some bad research
a mexican claiming that he's a phd in epigenetics came in and rekt him and that paper
then they had a back and forth for like >9000 posts, but I stopped reading the walls of text after a bit
>It's not ideal, but what I'm saying is, it won't be sharia law in 50 years and we won't get outbred by the muzzies.
Its already happening here. In 2013 25-30% of newborns had foreign-born mothers, and that number rises every year(pic related).
>More people will get killed by AKs or raped though, but even then, probably less than get killed in traffic accidents.
Over 600 complaints were filed in Cologne alone, and thats only for New Years Eve. Those kinds of incidents happened in Sweden and France too, will likely continue.
its okay europeans, if your countries fall to sharia you can always move to turkey :)
I dont remember exactly what I posted, but its still a fact that ones experiences during life have not been proven to affect the IQ of ones children. That is what I was trying to explain(I didi a really poor job).
San Andreas fault fambly
Trump is going to dynamite your ass into the ocean
It's not beneficial in a consumer-driven economy. We are hurting a huge class of our population in not granting them the buying power to feed back into the economy. It's a net negative, we thrived earlier in the decade due to high pay for low-skilled workers, even if costs were marginally higher as well. This is how you put the buying power primarily into the people's hands.
The lower class has been betrayed by the Nu Democrats
too add to this, I'll concede that Republicans haven't done a great job about protecting workers either
American worker's rights have been an afterthought for both parties for too long, I'd be willing to even vote for a Democrat if it was an FDR-type leader with a strong nationalist backbone first
it's a bit more complex than that...
I mean, just looking through wikipedia a bit, I found that out of all the immigrants, 36% are EU citizens anyway.
Then, that "foreign born mothers" intersects with 7% that have only 1 foreign parent and so on.
Then there's this graph, which indicates that immigrant influxes are done in waves, so it's not like your government is just opening the floodgates perpetually.
And ultimately, these graphs still don't take into account the eventual dropping natality.
So, no sharia state, sorry.
There are few problems with this.
a.) If they get a job, the price of their work would be significantly higher that the price of illegal's work. This will without doubt affect the price of final product which they will buy, so while more money is exchanged, their living standards will remain the same or possibly even get worse.
b.) This assumes this class actually wants a those jobs. And even if they actually want these jobs, they might, at least innitially, not have the skills needed. Very few so called "unskilled jobs" require no skill or talent, even if the talent is just the ability to stand the stench of animal guts.
>I mean, just looking through wikipedia a bit, I found that out of all the immigrants, 36% are EU citizens anyway.
>Then, that "foreign born mothers" intersects with 7% that have only 1 foreign parent and so on.
So far. My stats came from the Statistics Sweden(SCB):
In the top 10 countries only 3 were European(3. Poland, 4. Jugoslavia, 5. Bosnia).
>Then there's this graph, which indicates that immigrant influxes are done in waves, so it's not like your government is just opening the floodgates perpetually.
The wave in the 90s were refugees from the Balkans, and rise after 2000 were refugees from Irak and other ME-nations. Its important to remember that immigration levels have only risen since 2000 (see pic, source: http://www.migrationsinfo.se/migration/sverige/)
>And ultimately, these graphs still don't take into account the eventual dropping natality.
Natality doesnt drop to native Swede levels for most non-euro immigrant groups, and imo it would be unwise to assume that they will.
>"White" refers to a person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East or North Africa. It includes people who indicated their race(s) as "White" or reported entries such as Irish, German, Italian, Lebanese, Arab, Moroccan or Caucasian
just two things,
1.) Yugoslavia is a non-existant country that Bosnia used to be a part of
2.) Your biggest immigrant group is finns
Wikipedia uses sources from your own civil registry.
I'm not gonna nitpick these percentages now, if you seriously believe you're gonna get outbred and there's gonna be a sharia state, then I don't think I can help convince you otherwise.
>1.) Yugoslavia is a non-existant country that Bosnia used to be a part of
Its the name used by Statistics Sweden.
>2.) Your biggest immigrant group is finns
This means nothing when we keep taking in refugees, and when those refugees tend to more children than the natives.
>I'm not gonna nitpick these percentages now, if you seriously believe you're gonna get outbred and there's gonna be a sharia state, then I don't think I can help convince you otherwise.
How can you not believe that we wont get outbred? We know that non-euro immigrant groups have more children than native Swedes, even in the 2nd gen. We know that immigration levels have risen to 125000 per year, and that immigrants come from ME-groups who have higher fertility levels..
>he's a right wing meme, will either lose because delegates unite against him for Rubio or he'll lose to Sanders in the general
lel sanders is an old commie who spent his honeymoon in the USSR.
Will literally never come close to getting elected and all his supporters are retarded trash
>American style militant Atheist
Hmm, thought they were British. The more you know, I guess :^)
>Implying that's not the capitulating corpse of capitalism leading us to the inevitable globalization of the world which sets up the stage for global communism
Isolated Socialism like what the USSR, Yugoslavia, China etc had will not work, once there's a globalized system in place socialism will be capable of being implemented successfully.
Eventually people will get sick and tired of corporations and a less equal present. I mean even Trump says he'll protect NEETbux and Social Security. Revolution is inevitable.
There are rumbling against free trade both in the left and the right, in fact by everyone not in the estalishment. Trump openly opposes it and Sanders it at least critical. Russia gives no shits, and the EU itself might fall apart.