>>54005607 The world is a lot less dangerous than most Americans are led to believe. We are a very insulated society. So insulated that cutting off a 15 square inch piece of functional tissue is considered perectly normal.
Real talk here for a second. In all seriousness, this shit sucks. How do we actually go about solving America's circumcision delusion in a lasting and effective way? There are a few small organizations trying to make a difference, rates have dropped from 88% of American neonates being circumcised to around 70% today, and continue to drop. How do we speed this up so more children can remain whole?
>>54005827 Agreed. Until men are allowed to keep all of their body parts under the same laws that protect females from circumcision in the US, these thundercunts have nothing to complain about.
The best thing imo would be to dismantle the 2 billion dollar / year industry driven by the uses of infant foreskins (skincare and biomedical). Hospitals alone make so much money just by selling them. If we take away the lobbyists argument if "it's healthier" by educating the public on the truth, the practice will be brought into question.
>>54005698 It's considered normal because it's a simple procedure that has proven health benefits. There's a reason the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends it. Or do you think doctors just circumcise kids for fun?
What's really sheltered is refusing to subject your children to a standard, hygienic medical routine because of "muh nature". It's essentially the equivalent of not getting your kids vaccinated because you think it will make them autistic.
Feminists are always confused about what to get enraged about on their course to ruin western civilization. I bet if you dug up a man from 1900 and said we need to remove some of your foreskin for safety, he'd tell you what to do with that proposal.
>>54006013 If you think feminists got together and decided they needed to cut foreskins off, you're literally retarded. That argument is lazy and feminism is the current big bad bogeyman. Feminists these days are gay as fuck but they are irrelevant
>Circumcision is the world's oldest planned surgical procedure, suggested by anatomist and hyperdiffusionist historian Grafton Elliot Smith to be over 15,000 years old, pre-dating recorded history. Circumcision is in the Bible. It's not a new practice. If you really want to blame someone for this, this time it IS the Jews
>>54005958 That's like arguing that I should get rid of my kidneys because it reduces my risk of kidney cancer. I'm not just going to cut off the most sensitive part of my external body just because some puritain doctor in the 1900s said that madturbation led to death. The forskin contains about 300 feet of coiled nerve cells similar to the types of receptors found in your fingertips, and on a cellular level is shown to have specialized immune cells that protect against infecting agents. Foreskin is not a birth defect, it is there for a reason. Of course it's a lot easier to be in denial about it than to accept that you live in a country where the organs of healthy men are harvested for profit.
This structure on the human body had evolved for nearly 200 million years in all mammals, and in no way has shown to have any adverse health effects in other species. Considering that pigs, dogs, and rats are often used to test safety for products produced for humans because our biology is so similar, why should one inocuous little organ be such a life or death issue? A male human being has a one in 16,000 chance of dying due to circumcision complications, but only a one in 100,000 chance of ever developing penile cancer.
>>54006165 >Sewing the vagina shut I don't believe that is typical of FGM. Even if it is it is easily reversible. >cutting the clitoris completely off This is different from cutting off the foreskin how? I can't imagine getting any pleasure from masturbation without the foreskin.
>>54006345 Plenty of dudes can masturbate just fine without their foreskin though. I'm not defending it but I'm not gonna say it's worse than losing the clitoris. >There are about 8,000 nerve endings in the clitoris glans, double the nerve endings as men have at the head of the penis
>>54006122 The more you learn, the more you'll want to kill yourself over it. The whole thing is disgusting. Educating yourself on this is a real mindfuck. I suggest you go to bed now. >>54006303 >>54006165 Except for the fact that the glans on the male genitalia contains almost no meissener's corpsicles (sensory nerves) to begin with, and over 80% of the pleasurable nerves are located along the ridged band near the end of the foreskin's bi-layer tissue. By pure volume, a fullgeown foreskin is about 15 square inches of flesh thats been removed (about the size of a fucking smartphone). It's actually far worse. Female genital mutilation while still terrible, removes far less tissue when measured by mass.
>>54005951 He's right though. I wonder why you're even triggered. While most of violence in Russia is domestic, happens in disfunctional families, your streets are far more dangerous, especially at night. I never felt unsafe in Russia but people I know who used to visit USA or studied there told me it's not a place to relax. Literally everyone tell how small stores are armored and there are chiefs, hobos, junkies and prostitutes everywhere. At least we have only chiefs on streets.
>>54006178 I'll admit, I didn't even finish reading your post because I've heard all that shit before. I'm going to have to stick with the consensus of doctors who compose the most esteemed medical force on the planet and not some nut on 4chan waxing on about a conspiracy where foreskins are being "harvested for profit".
Thanks for your concern, though. If it's any solace, if you ever have kids you can fight the power and not have them circumcised. I fully intend to have it done to my kids, though.
>>54006496 I totally uderstand. This isn't a problem that cam be solved by harassing people. All you can ask of someone is that they be open minded and are willing to look at both sides of the argument and the materials they both present so that you can make an informed decision to the best of your ability. I hope you keep an open mind about it at the very least.
Eh, don't really care. Been using a "foreskin" substitute and touching the gland feels fucking amazing now. I get that I won't have the nerve endings back and that circumcision is a REALLY shitty, pointless practice (that I wouldn't have done to my kids), but I'm not going to loathe myself over what some chink or posters on 4chan say. Best you can do is try to gain back as much gland sensitivity you can and spread awareness so it can stop.
>>54006671 Hopefully in the next 5 years or so, biotechnology companies will patent full functioning foreskin regeneration using cellular matrices, scaffolds, and stem cells. We've managed to regrow tracheas, bladders, and use this method to reverse female circumcison, so male dermal regeneration of the foreskin may be on its way. There are already several companies researching it
>>54006496 >I'm going to have to stick with the consensus of doctors who compose the most esteemed medical force on the planet
Top kek. The US is ranked 37th best in Healthcare by the World Health Organization. We're behind fucking Colombia for christ sake. That's how much we suck here despite the fact hat we spend more on health than any other country. Stop parroting shit you hear from mom and dad and think for yourself.
>>54007156 Hospitals here are literal companies. They have quotas and often keep people in beds far longer than necessary in order to make more money. They often order expensive screenings and tests that are not needed. There was a big scandal about this a couple of years ago but nothing changed. Also we over prescribe medications and have the highest pill to patient ratio of any country.
>>54007371 >>54007555 The problem is that people who are on medicaid/ medicare (government insurance for only the most destitute and old) use a system that was designed by insurance companies, drug companies and hospitals to make money, modeled off the same system as private healthcare. The problem is that you have people on the government who have heavily invested their own finances in private insurance, and therefore allow this to happen with selective legislation in order to see government Healthcare become less effective, protecting their personal investments in private sector Healthcare, and their conservative belief in small government.
>>54007833 Well, I had phimosis as a kid, but still you can stretch the foreskin with some exercises instead of getting snipped. Luckily in Europe the "style" of circumcision is different than in the US, so if you're trying to restore it's much less work.
Medically impossible. The foreskin is chemically fused to the glans until late puberty when the BPL layer begins to dissolve and they separate. That's like telling a 12 year old girl she's going through menopause.
>>54009030 Ancuent egyptians and abbos invented it, muzzies and kikes adopted the practice during the bronze age and spread it, and anti-masturbation Christian faggots cemented it here in the United states 120 or so years ago. Then after the Korean war, NATO relief forcees primarily made of Burgerstani doctors set it up as standard medical practice in newly built South Korean hospitals.
>>54008886 there is a worse feeling. a friend of mine is half turkish and muslim. he was cut in a hospital, but his father wasnt. the story pretty much goes like this: his father is playing carelessly in the garden. a "wise man" appears at their door with an offer his grandfather cant refuse. a moment later his father is told he will get ice cream in the kitchen but is held down to a table by the grandmother and grandfather and the man uses what can be described as an "almost rustless knife" to cut his foreskin. trust in grandfather and grandmother is never recovered ever since.
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