France or Britain

I dont like either, but i say britain

USA, we fought for your Independence too. :c

>>53989054
loooooooool

>>53988586
France tbqh
I don't know if it's mutual though :(

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>Britain
>larger economy
>own currency
>aircraft carriers have ramps

>France
>slaved to Germany
>stuck inside Schengen
>rampless

No competition tbqh

>>53988586
britain, obviously. who wants to be french? killing the french used to be a national passtime for us

I've noticed that most Americans on /int/ prefer France

>>53989236
>>53989241
>>53989573
>picking yourselves
Seriously?

That's lame.

>>53991580
I didn't pick myself >>53989573

Can you read, retard?

>>53988586
I like both, but I'll have to go with Britain.

Britain gave birth to the Anglosphere.

UK

>>53991704
>Britain gave birth to the Anglosphere.
France gave birth to Britain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Norman_Conquests

The English we use today, what little culinary cuisine they have, and many of the laws in in place in Britain and the anglosphere came from the French.

They are like the ORIGINAL British.

>>53988586
2nd for France.
great food, history, booze, culture, sex....our oldest allies.

UK.
I'm a britboo so I'm biased as fuck. I love the whole empire history, the accents, and slag culture. They speak English so it's already easy to assimilate. I'm going there to marry a brit woman to try to take back with me to the new world. I just have to graduate first.

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>>53992148
They tried to destroy us.
TWICE.

Also dragged us into a world war.
TWICE.

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

Not fooling me a 3rd time.

>>53992268
And in the end we have a special relationship with them. The highest honor for a diplomat is to be the diplomat to the UK for the US department of state.

Face it, it's our mother country, we took common law, our language and much of our culture shaped from the British.

UK+US

>>53992268
>They tried to destroy us.
>TWICE.

Wut. You know the 1812 war started when the USA invaded Canada, right? American leaders wanted to annex Canada.

>>53992473
>it's our mother country
It's not. USA has no "mother country". It had founding fathers. Britain tried to destroy USA when it was at it's weakest.

They can suck a dick.

china they giv us monis

>>53992533
>Britain tried to destroy USA when it was at it's weakest.
Are you crazy?

The USA invaded Canada in 1812 PRECISELY because the majority of the British Army was fighting Napoleon in Spain and most of the Royal Navy was busy in that war.

You guys did a Russia-tier move right when Britain was vulnerable, because you thought we'd be unable to defend Canada

>>53992637
>>Britain tried to destroy USA when it was at it's weakest.
American revolution
Fuck off retard.

>>53989241
You mean getting rekt so hard that you have to build 10 000 fucking coalitions against one fucking country ?

>>53991857
The normans conquered France in the same way they conquered Britain. They came from northern Europe.

Read a book.

>>53992691
>American revolution
How could we try to destroy the USA when it didn't properly exist yet?

Also, what does ANY country do when there's a rebellion or civil war? What did the USA do when half the country rebelled?

>>53992268
Fuck you, the UK is America's mother country and the one we inherited our laws, culture, language and values from.

I'm a proud American, but God Save the fucking Queen.

>>53992533
What language are you speaking, fuckface? Disrespect Britain and you disrespect me, not to mention yourself. YOU are a product of British culture and it is the United States's job to protect her at ANY cost. Ungrateful child, and just know that if I see you sharing any offensive memes about our greatest and most important ally ever again, I will shove your ugly little boy face right up my fat hairy ass and use it like toilet paper.

Got it? Now fuck off.

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>>53992916
>God Save the fucking Queen
TRAITOR

>>53992916
Oh come on
You know why your ancestors wanted to leave your dear island ?

>>53993030
Of course I do, but that still doesn't change our heritage.

Does their exist any other pair of countries on Earth with a greater history/rivalry than that Britain and France? Our two countries dominated the ENTIRE GLOBE, and have contributed more to the world than all other countries combined. Look past this capricious American baiting brothers, and let us unite against the real enemy. The fucking Germans

>>53993030
That's a bit rich considering what's happening in France right now

>French Jews drawn to security of London
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5d72002a-6744-11e5-a57f-21b88f7d973f.html#axzz3y1WduUQs

>>53993157
Does there *

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>these brits

>>53992916
>God Save the fucking Queen.

*tips fedora*

>>53993122
Yes
We don't really suck Roman dicks, here, tho

>>53992926
>Disrespect Britain and you disrespect me


stop embarrassing us, please

>>53993157
Anglo-Frankish Empire, when ? :DDDD

>>53989241
>getting killed by the french used to be a national passtime for us
Corrected for accuracy.

>>53992916
>God Save the fucking Queen
Exactly what I expected.
Roach dispora

Go the fuck back to England if you love sucking monarch cock so much.

>>53993122
>doesn't change our heritage
French?

You do know that all British are partially French right? Normans raped them the fuck out and taught them how to cook and make laws.

Fuck the current monarchs in Britain are more French/German than British.

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>angry anglos

>>53993384
>kicking out white people

>>53993444
and do you know where the Normans came from?

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>>53993300
Just think of what a utopia the world would be if we both joined forces at the height of the imperial age

>no obnoxious yanks
>blacks in their own countries

Glorious

>Dismantled the Ottoman Empire
>Dismantled Nazi Germany
>Not picking Britain who removed two of the most horrific regimes in history

Unless you're one of these neckbearded fedora tippers who spouts le ebin Hitler did nothing wrong meme, then >>/pol/

I'd much sooner live in France than the UK.

>>53992703
Like you did in WWII, and you still ended up surrendering

>>53993486
Being white doesn't mean jack shit if you can't accept your nations culture.

>>53993568
I like America

>>53993661
You can't always win

>>53993684
And why can't someone appreciate their nation's culture while also appreciating said culture's origins?

>>53993444
Normans aren't French; they were Vikings who conquered the north of France.

>>53993880
Then the eternal angevins cucked 'em and took their precious kingdom

So many people from other countries buttmad in here. Love it.

I guess when you're top dog in your own continent for nearly 1000 years and in that period of time has consistently been one of the most powerful and politically, historically and culturally influential nations in the world, despite only being a small island, you're going to earn a few enemies.

Come on then, get your "yeah b-b-b-but some Muslim people live in your country! LOL KUCKED!" meme replies out of the way. Then stay mad haters.

>>53994074
I don't understand. You think France is a small island?

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>>53988586
Britain, GOD SAVE THE QUEEN

The French are okay though. Americans can fuck off however.

>>53994074
>I guess when you're top dog in your own continent for nearly 1000 years and in that period of time has consistently been one of the most powerful and politically, historically and culturally influential nations in the world

Merci.

Britain. They have SAS and everything. They speak english.

>>53993693
AND THAT IS PRECISELY THE REASON WE HAVE FOUGHT YOU FORSAKEN THOUSANDS OF YEARS YOU CUM GARGLING BENT LITTLE SHIT

>>53994163
You love a country because of the language and the special forces ?

Mean...I fucking hate Spanish, yet I really like their country

>>53994244
FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS*

I literally do not understand autocorrect sometimes

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>>53994106
>Acting like a treacherous kuck for the sake of being contrarian

>>53994074
But anon, France is not an island.

>>53994343
>having an actual accurate knowledge of European history
>Contrarian
???
That map you posted is bullshit as well mate

>>53994295
Yes. I have always hated how French language sounds. And how they eat baguette and refuse to speak English.

>>53994393
>That map you posted is bullshit as well mate

>Republic of Sibr
>British Angola
>British South America
>...

No shit !?

>>53994452
I genuinely don't think the lad that posted it knows that though

>>53994444
TRIPS

Yea, a lot of people here hate our language
Feels bad pêh

(WHAT'S WRONG WITH BAGUETTES !?)

we're all friends desu

>>53994500
NO, QUADS*

Checked btw

>>53994500
Ok I like baguette.

2bh British and French colonization were the best

Anything is better than being colonized by Spain

>>53994145
>Americans can fuck off however.
t. Northern American

France desu

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>>53988586
Definitely France

UK's become that big and influential just because of its terribly atrocious and unethical use of military/diplomatic power and anglo efficiency in economy which I find absolutely tasteless and dreadful, while the rest of the world is deeply in love with France because it has magnificent real culture and aesthetics that have been inspiring and shaking humanity for centuries.

>>53994558
Much better, copain...

>>53994578
Nah, thank you but we suck at colonization

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>>53994444
Quads confirm.

France is awful

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Men?
France > Britain

Women?
France > Britain

Food?
France > Britain

Land?
France > Britain

Weather?
France > Britain

Wine?
France > Britain

Music?
France > Britain

Art?
France > Britain

Fashion?
France > Britain

Revolutions?
France > Britain

>>53994638
>its terribly atrocious and unethical use of military/diplomatic power

Coming from Japan lmao

>>53994749
Silence leaf
QUEBEC LIBRE
VIVE L'ACADIE
DIEU BENISSE CARTIER, SAMUEL ET MONTCALM

>>53994749
I thought Canada was full of French people?

>>53994781
>Music?
>France > Britain
What French music?

>>53989236
>aircraft carriers have ramps
Are you somehow imply that this is a good thing? Ski jumps are the most pathetic meme in modern naval aviation.

>>53994393
>>53994452
>>53994480
So you're saying that we didn't occupy those lands?

Also the Republic of Sibr was actually the Khanate of Sibr, but same thing in principle really.

>>53994832
SHHHH
Don't say that !
It would trigger them

>>53994832
Yeah they're pretty awful and influenced by this
>>53994816

Pure awfulness

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>>53994781
Add this:
>Empires?
>France > Britain

Remember QUALITY > QUANTITY.

Britain used guns to kill Eskimos armed with spears in Canada and Gattling guns to kill zulus who were throwing rocks.

Meanwhile France conquered EUROPEANS with ships, warfare tactics, guns, cannons, medicine, and BRAINS.

Britain NEVER EVER could do that.
The best they could do was cower in little bunkers as 1 tiny ass European country kept bombing them despite having 1/4 of the world's clay.

>>53994784
Japan killed many less people in their WW2 atrocities than Britain did over it's colonial age.

Britain wiped out countless animals, tribes, peoples, and cultures.

>>53994884
Don't forget the MOST IMPORTANT thing...
Levée en masse !

>>53994875
If dubs, Canada is not a real country

>>53994921
>Britain wiped out countless animals, tribes, peoples, and cultures.

I do feel bad for the animals.

>>53994784
Tier 2 American please be quiet and continue reading your Mao Zedong biography

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>>53994884
If you're talking about Quality when it comes to Empires, Measure their lasting effects. Britain has a handful of extremely successful colonies. France has west Africa and Haiti.The path of least resistance is always smarter. Oh and pic related

France since my great grandparents were from France and would always yell in French, in a kind way though

>>53994921
The Japs were literally vivisecting children while alive and conscious. You don't get any worse than that. Japan performed Mongol tier human rights abuses. In fact, worse.

>>53995003

>54% of the worlds most important inventions were British

How can anyone compete

>>53995003
>Britain has a handful of extremely successful colonies
13 colonies?
Mediocre at best before musting the balls to tell Britain to fuck off and choke on a dick.

Canada?
Useless. Sucks American dick. Also part French.

Australia?
Useless. Sucks Chinese dick. Inbred criminals who can't even beat a bunch of Emus.

Hong Kong?
Didn't even have democratic elections until the CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY gave them elections.

India?
Literally sub-African tier.

South Africa?
Shit.

>>53994781
>Men
>Women
I'll give you that, Anglo and Celtic women/men are mostly trash. French women are hairy though.

>Food
French food is hideously overrated. The best food in Europe comes from Spain, Italy and Greece.

>Land
Both North Western European countries so the geography is relatively similar. Bit of a moot point.

>Weather
Again, the weather is mostly similar apart from the South of France. But London and Paris have the same climates.

>Wine
Are you a woman?

>Music
Classical, maybe, but in contemporary terms, name a musical artist from France more relevant than The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, Pink Floyd, The Clash, The Smiths, The Stone Roses, Oasis, Radiohead or even Arctic Monkeys?

>Art
They may have been better at drawing le pretty pictures, but we gave the world Shakespeare, Orwell, Milton and Dickens.

>Fashion
Punks, Mods, Casuals, Skinheads > stripy shirts

>Revolutions
Fair point, after all, you as an American would know all about France winning revolutions, wouldn't you?

Stay mad, Hank.

>>53995043
You seem upset there chang.

But either way your English monarch has done much worse. Japanese never wiped out a single group of people. Britain has done so to countless.

>>53988586
France, of course.

>>53995043
>implying the Mongols did anything bad
Chink or Durka detected

>>53995143
Let me guess, the Spanish colonies were better?

>>53995161
>French women are hairy though.
That's just a meme stereotype (probably propagated by the BBC and the British media machine. MUH SOFT POWURRR)

Also you're low test as fuck if you can't fuck a woman because she doesn't shave.

>>53995247
If you take away all our meme stereotypes then we're the one true mastermace

>>53995210
In some ways they are. At the very least they are built on hate (war) but also love (blood mixing).

Anglo colonies were built on genocide and continuing their horrible tradition of inbreeding.

>>53995143
>best before musting the balls to tell Britain to fuck off and choke on a dick.

Funny way of saying American treachery

Also way to trivialize all those shit places that turned to gold after they became a British colony. Two of those countries are objectively better than America.

>>53995174
Sorry Juan , despite their best efforts the Japanese did try to genocide the Ainu. They were just shit at it. Not Anglos faults they are better at Imperialism than everybody.

>>53995201
All Asians are shit bud

GREATEST
ALLIES

Britain cucked France to the level where frenchies refuse to admit that they know english out of inferiority and Britain gave birth to the best country in the world.

>>53994500
If put cheese and cucumber on the top of baguette it tastes good.

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Despite all the banter which they always dish out our way and which my compatriots have such a hard time handling IRL, I fucking love France.

Our brother nation, now and forever onwards

>>53995473

t.Quebec

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There's a reason why the regions in Canada and America with French settlement have the most culture and best food

>>53995508
t. Sherlock

>>53995174
>Britain has done so to countless.

Name them.

>>53995441
sup, English teacher ?

>>53994884
yeah because that european empire sure worked out well for them haha lol

>>53988586
fuck you all VOC strong, 17th century never forget

>>53995803
>haha lol

==> https://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt

>>53995900
why are you directing me to your homepage?

>>53994921
>Japan killed many less people in their WW2 atrocities than Britain did over it's colonial age
The colonial age was almost 5 centuries. Japan's Imperial age was like 30 years. Of course we did more bad. But at least we:
>abolished slavery
>helped prevent French dominance of Europe (Napoleonic wars)
>help prevent Nazi dominance of Europe
>by holding on during ww2 we gave america a way to invade into Europe which allowed the allies to stop communism in Germany rather than at the British channel
>made numerous technological innovations
>freely gave up most of our colonies
For any empire that has held any real power the British Empire did by far the most good with it

>>53995945
haha, upvoted, lol ! ;)))

>>53995955
desu, Krauz and Russkies did most of the work during Napoleonic wars (and Russia during WWII against Germany)

I love the Great britain, STOP MAKE WAR !

Let's be friend and fuck all the others country

>>53995003
The French empire was not a colonial empire.

>>53996119
agreed

>>53996189
Even worse t.b.h

>>53996223
Invading 1st world countries>>>killing defenseless natives

Ok, we lost, but hey, that's not my fault

>>53996257
setting up a global trading empire >>> trying to invade your neighbours and getting raped

>>53996386
>and getting raped
m8

>>53995516
This

>>53996386
>rapped

>>53996257
>Invading 1st world countries>>>killing defenseless natives

If that were true it would have been as successful as the British empire. Unfortunately though...

>>53996386
Just like you when you (oops, I mean when your French overlords*) tried to invade us ?

no brother wars

>tfw I didn't know Portugal existed on the west coast of Spain until I was out of high school
How relevant IS Portugal?

What sports are the French good at?

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>>53992926

is this pasta?

>>53996490
>>53996570
at sea and on land, i'm not denying they had some amazing victories but it generally didn't end well

>>53996616
that was a long time ago bruv

>>53996856
Good at rugby sometimes (last France-NZ match ? NEVER HAPPENED)
Handball
Volley ?
Basket ?
Fencing ?

>>53996856
Basketball

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>>53996960
Y-yea...

>>53996960
the Napoleonic Empire literally made all of continental Europe its bitch and it took several coalitions of EVERY OTHER EUROPEAN POWER to actually finally take them down.

France for those few years under Napoleon was arguably the single greatest empire in the history of humanity.

>>53996856
Sucking Canadian cocks

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>>53992916
>God Save the fucking Queen.
BASED

>>53997031
>France for those few years under Napoleon was arguably the single greatest empire in the history of humanity.

Napoleonboos are the worst

>>53997139
prove me wrong, then

And note I said "arguably" the greatest, I realize there are other contenders, but trying to downplay the First French Empire is delusion at best and sheer butthurt at worst.

>>53996963
>Rugby
World Ranking no.7
>Handall
World Ranking no.7
>Volleyball
World Ranking no.10
>Basketball
World Ranking no.6
>Fencing
World Ranking no.1

Would hardly say they are setting the world alight here. France were fairly dismal in the last Olympics too desu

>>53997248

meant 5 for basketball

>>53997079
Err, no, sucking [British] dicks is YOUR thing

>>53997248
Err :DDD
I don't really like sport btw
Rugby maybe...

>All this thread

And they say French are the butthurt ones kek

>>53997172
>prove me wrong, then

British empire, especially in the 19th century.

>Owned a quarter of the earths landmass, that was taken relatively easy in a quarter of the time it took other empires to own 1/10th of that
>Industrialized itself the likes the world had never seen after spawning the Industrial revolution
>Held over a billion subjects
>extorted the shit out of India, Hong kong and many others becoming Insanely rich
>became the economic capital or the world and having such traction English became the international language of business
>Spawned the Anglo sphere and the United states(even though US became independent)
>Invented more than France, Germany, or Italy

That is the definition of success. Even if they had things go wrong, the First French empire cannot touch that. Big battles are cool and all and many other empires were cooler than Britain but you have to be objective when you say "the greatest empire".

>>53997248

>Fencing
World Ranking no.1

huh

also m8 let's be honest

>Would hardly say they are setting the world alight here.

you could say pretty much the exact same thing about the british

>>53997516

Easy tiger Britain does quite well for itself in terms of sports certainly better than France

>>53997678

>Britain does quite well for itself in terms of sports

m8 i like rowing too but don't push it

>>53997502
having a bunch of brown slaves on other continents isn't nearly as impressive as conquering Europe though

>>53997502
Well, Roman Empire is still the best Empire, IMO

>>53997722
>Impressive

Maybe not, but being impressive doesn't make an empire great. Success does. Taking shithole countries full of brown people and extorting them for the empire, or genociding red people and populating their lands is what put them above in success.

>>53997722
you do realise massive wars were fought between european empires for said colonies?

>>53997794
This

>brits in charge of handling the banter

>>53988586
Commonwealth pride

W O R L D W I D E

France is nice too, though. Some decent people there.

>>53997794
>>53997925
Factually it was probably the third or fourth best Empire. Still the coolest though

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>>53997704

>Andy Murray
>Lewis Hamilton
>Rory Mcilroy
>Tyson Fury plus all our other world championship boxers
>Chris Froome
>Wales better than France at Rugby
>Worlds most popular football league and worlds most expensive player
>Success in athletics from Mo Farah, Greg Rutherford and Jessica Ennis
>Ashes 2015 winners

In the relevant sports we aren't bad m8

>>53998040
third or fourth in what? conquered land size? who cares? roman empire put the basis of all the earth culture predominance now.

>>53998290
you forgot Heskey

>>53998290
Too bad you suck at Hockey though.

We're pretty good in ski as far as I know

>>53998348
>third or fourth in what?

Success and ranking in Empires. Their is a lot of criteria.

>who cares?

Historians? Anthropologists? People who want to Identify what was the worlds greatest empires were and why?

>roman empire put the basis of all the earth culture predominance now.

What? I don't know what you're trying to say. They were influential as hell to western civilization and they were long lasting. That's why they are Third or fourth.

>>53994781
> Music?
>France > Britain
While I agreed with the rest of this list, Britain gave us the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Iron Maiden, and Queen.
That pretty much means they win the music category forever.

>>53998534
>Success and ranking in Empires.

That's not an answer his question was what are the criterias

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>>53998576
>the Beatles

>>53994781
>Look at filename
>King Henry

What the fuck ?

>>53998679
One of the best damn bands in history.

>>53998676
There is a lot

Land area, Population, military, spheres of influence, innovation, capability with resources, currency, Time span, Peak, Fall, legacy, colonies, rulers, prosperity, creations, notable individuals.. etc. etc. just a few.

How is this even a question? Frogs > bongs, always.

>>53998964
how the fuck are you supposed to smoke using a frog

>>53993661
If your empire exists long enough, it will lose somewhere along the way.

>>53999028
Fine british humour you got there lad

>>53993661
Brit talking about us surrendering doesn't affect me anymore considering the French saved all of your asses and gave you the time to run away to your island

>>53999028
>>53999055
I honhonhon alone in dat cold night

>>53999055
Thanks Pawel, now get back to work, my bathroom's not going to tile itself.

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>>53999028

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>tfw you're walking down the street and you hear people speaking French

>>53999200
Best moment of the day it means I've left my Ar*b neighborhood

>>53988586
Personally i prefer France but UK is better.England on it's own on the other hand is slightly inferior to France imho

>>54000031
Both are few United similarly speaking countries. So is Germany. So is Russia. Eastern Europe is lagging hard on uniting.