is this thing common in american unis\collages ?. can burgerclaps explain what is this cult\whatever thing .i thought this was a movie meme in american collage movies but apparently its real .
Paying for friends desu.
Knew a gal who had to stop being part of a sorority to save money because her mother was sick. They all turned their back on her except three and acted like they never knew her. And this is after explaining to them why and having they try to guilty trip her into staying.
It's just a secret club for normies to haze initiates and hold exclusive parties.
2bh can't imagine how any parent would allow their daughter to join knowing what those places are. Cuck culture at work I guess.
I had to share my campus with those obnoxious braindead douchebags for 4 years, never again
I never understood Greek life desu. My university has no fraternities or sororities. The students at my university preceive those who participate in Greek life to be barbaric. It's essentially an institution for those who wish to get drunk 6 nights a week and cheat on their exams.
>The students at my university preceive those who participate in Greek life to be barbaric.
Who then married the girls that got broken in by the Greeks, circle of life senpai
>you spent your young adulthood playing video games and watching chinese cartoons instead of doing this
What went wrong, /int/?
I don't have the will to power, Sven
Life has passed me by
Fraternities and sororities are meant to be service organizations. Most people just join them because in most colleges they get their own small house, meaning plenty of opportunity for exclusive parties. However, many schools don't even have Greek life, and some fraternities and sororities mainly focus on service. Some don't even get their own housing, meaning there's no incentive to join if you're only in it for the sex/drinking. It varies a lot here.
Where did it all go so wrong. The future generetaions will be raised by these people. Were fucked.
Keep in mind these people are only a small percentage of our college population. Who cares if dumb fucks get a few years of partying; it's not going to change anything in the long run.
Pretty funny that Americans think it's disgusting to sit naked in a steamed room with your friends because they think it's sexual but have weird hazing rituals sprinkled with lots of sexual shit and posters like >>53974370
If you're looking for a serious fraternity organization for connections and making friends, DU is the way to go.
>be in a serious fraternity populated with former presidents, no immature dipshits
no it's supposed to be gay
they make you do gay shit like stuff stuff up your butt or suck a guys dick for initiates
pay off is free pussy though
the gayness is what turns 90% of potential initiates off and what keeps it exclusive
Also they wear togas sometimes
greek life just means soro and frats
its based of greek fraternities or some shit so they all have greek names
it has almost nothing to do with greece except sometime they do shit with togas
This is dumb.
If you want to live the actual Greek life, you should establish an Orthodox Church, give it 10% of your lands and force everyone to fund them through taxation. Now that's true Greek culture.
>holy shit bro you stuffed your ass with that 25cm dildo so hard welcome to our frat bro holy shit dude like holy shit bro shit
>>lmao thanks bro dude holy shit it was my pleasure (not in a sexual way that's gay like holy shit dude shit bro shit)
>AT LEAST WE DON'T HAVE SAUNAS BUTT NAKED LIKE THOSE FUCKING FINNS AMIRITE BRO HOLY SHIT LIKE THEY'RE FUCKING GAY DUDE HOLY SHIT LIKE HOLY BRO SHIT
>>>YE BRO I FEEL YOU PASS THE BLUNT SON LIKE HOLY SHIT ITS LIKE THAT TIME I SMOKED COCK IN THIS FRAT DURING HAZING (not in sexual way lmao)
>>HAHA YEAH THOSE FUCKING GAY ASS FINNS SORRY I HAVE TO TIP THE AMBULANCE CREW NOW I HAD RECTAL PROLAPSE
what a country
We didn't steal anything. Frats have been establishing chapters in Canada since the end of the 19th century.
>So, do you fuck braindead sluts on regular basis ?
Depends on the time of year. I don't fuck as much as most of the guys around me. I haven't fucked in over a month but I haven't gone out of my way to get my dick wet.
Depends which frat we're talking about
Yes we do m8. They are called republicas, its the same shit. Only difference is that the houses are shitier
>mfw frat douches and brodouches unironically talk like this
>AT LEAST WE DON'T HAVE SAUNAS BUTT NAKED LIKE THOSE FUCKING FINNS AMIRITE BRO HOLY SHIT LIKE THEY'RE FUCKING GAY DUDE HOLY SHIT LIKE HOLY BRO SHIT
>anyone outside of int knowing finland even exists
>Americuck damage control
It never gets old.
I know, I live in both (São Carlos and UW-Madison) Same shit in the end m8.
Of course you can compared Brazil with USA directly they do some unimaginable things to us bruzlians but its not like we dont have some hardcore parties in our land as well.
Much of education is actually a form of hazing. Doing boring, bureaucratic busywork to enter a profession.
Once in, game-theoretically you must perpetuate the same stuff on the younger generation to keep entry into your profession expensive.
That's why physicians are happy about the medical cartels, lawyers are happy about justice systems, and so on. These institutions give them their daily bread.
Then once in a while it becomes more economical to just have a revolution and write your own laws and rituals.
Think of how the working class in Egypt ditched the hieroglyphs and invented the alphabet.
>Much of education is actually a form of hazing.
Yes and it is also a way to give people a sense of worth about their profession to make sure they behave responsibly in their jobs and value tradition etc.
That's why studying law or medicine is so hard (at least in Germany)
We've got a lot of guys in business school and engineering, their course loads aren't light. We have a couple rooms that are reserved for quiet studying. A lot of these guys join because they don't have a lot of free time, and want to really let loose when they do.
We're fairly intelligent guys when we're not drinking.
No, we have no means to cheat and even if we did we would be risking expulsion every time we did so. We do not have an archive of previous year exams in our basement, our school is far too reputable to allow such an oversight.
In Finland, it's funny.
For the Swedish-speaking elite, there are more (Swedish) slots allocated in universities.
As to the majority, I've noticed, mostly girls and low-test males can enter law, medicine and so on. High-test Finnish males can be to impatient to apply themselves to studying.
So you could think of it as a castration system for the plebs. Anyway, in any society, there can be only so much high-test males on top, with their tendency for territorial struggle.
>What are some good frats in Canada?
I can't list any off for you, there are too many and I only know about the ones at my university. For example, my frat is in Canada, we have three chapters. But I can't vouch for any chapter but my own.
>I thought most of them were in the US
You are correct.
>basically watered down versions of the US
Depends what you mean. Rushing, pledging, initiation, ritual etc is standardized throughout all chapters of a frat. So the traditions are not watered down.
In terms of partying, some frats in Canada go as hard as in the US, and some are really fucking lame. At my school we have a pretty good Greek system, so we go hard pretty frequently.
No, frats are banned at Queen's and Queen's is a school for faggots anyways. Literally Daddy's money: the school, except it has shit academics compared to the Big Three and its parties are vastly overhyped. I applied to it and got in, but never considered going there for more than five minutes.
D-do you recommend I join one?
I took 2 gap years after hs and planning on applying to Uni just now. I will study Business.
>Literally Daddy's money: the school, except it has shit academics compared to the Big Three and its parties are vastly overhyped
In what way? I'd literally suck a Cock to get into Queen's Commerce or Eng. It is also the whitest school.
What school is better? UofT is just a Chinese/Indian meme factory with no school spirit unless you reach Trinity college.
Western is only good for life sci.
UBC is China central.
UWaterloo is only good for co-op and engineering.
WLU only good for Business.
McMaster is just shit
Laurentian is feces
Brock/York/Trent/Guelph is just a waste of money
Yeah, I've spent a lot of time reading about conspiracies and hanging out with losers.
But meditation helped me to finally write my master's thesis, got the inspiration and vision. Good stuff. Should be out soon. Took only 15 years. We'll see what happens. Would like to spread a new alphabet to the world.
Anyway, with the invasion of Europe we're gonna see some kind of anarchy and Illuminist police state coming. A paradigm shift for better or worse.
it's the way capitalist America works, these kids do retarded, humiliating shit and slut it up along with paying frat/sorority dues in exchange for professional connections that they take with them after college
it's supposed to be a good thing
Depends where you end up going to school.
Yeah, their commerce is sufficient, more so if you stay in Ontario after graduation. Outside less so, since Queen's reputation doesn't carry itself outside of the province.
It has no frats. Well, it does, but they're not sanctioned by the school so they're rank as fuck and all around super fucking lame.
>UofT is just a Chinese/Indian meme factory with no school spirit unless you reach Trinity college
Correct, undergrad life is lacking here. Good school though. Great frats to make up for generally shitty social life. Great frat + downtown Toronto frat house = good times.
>Western is only good for life sci.
>UBC is China central
Warm weather, beach on campus, best Greek system in Canada. I'm from Toronto but go to school at UBC. Everything I said about UoT and frats applies here.
Usually the greek letters each stand for some trait
Like Alpha would mean courage or hard work or something. Not that it ACTUALLY means that, but probably in their own school's tradition or something. I really don't' know why all these frats look so degenerate. Really just depends on the quality of the school.
>Yeah, their commerce is sufficient, more so if you stay in Ontario after graduation. Outside less so, since Queen's reputation doesn't carry itself outside of the province.
Queens has some of the best international reputation.
Y-you actually dropped that much dough to study at UBC? Isn't it a lot more expensive if you're from ontario or is it same as domestic students?
Tbh I'm considering going to WLU BBA or Econ just for the co-op and drastically lower tuition than other Business schools.
SEems pretty good idea since I'll not only save on tuition but also pay off most of tuition with co-op + the 1 year of experience should make up for any differences in prestige.
>Queens has some of the best international reputation.
This is a meme only Ontarians believe. Queen's has been claiming to be important for so long people started to believe it, despite it all being purely rhetoric.
>Y-you actually dropped that much dough to study at UBC? Isn't it a lot more expensive if you're from ontario or is it same as domestic students?
I'm not like you, I haven't needed to work for anything in my life. My father is paying for me. It's slightly more expensive for out-of-provincers to go to UBC.
>Tbh I'm considering going to WLU BBA or Econ just for the co-op and drastically lower tuition than other Business schools
Good idea, Laurier is a decent school and I have a couple friends in the BBA program that seem happy. Laurier has Sigma Chi, Pi Kappa Epsilon, Zeta Psi and maybe a couple others. I've heard mixed things about Laurier frats but apparently Zeta Psi has been really good there for the last couple years.
>I'm not like you, I haven't needed to work for anything in my life. My father is paying for me
>Calls Queen's a school for rich kids
>Is rich kid himself
ok lol. What are you studying anyway?
Also I have ~$25k saved up for school and some more soon. I-is that good?
Only issue is that since it's in my tfsa I'm pretty sure I'm now fucking illegible for OSAP which is retarded. What do
You're an idiot, blacks have black fraternities and black sororities, pic related is Shaq reppin Omega Psi Phi
it does, most of the SJW shit like mattress on the back is as a result of some dumb bitch getting drunk and laid at a frat house then trying to say she didnt remember so it must be rape
Yeah, it's cringeworthy as fuck when you hear these wannabe niggers ending every sentence with "bruhhh" and "senpai" when they aren't even black. And they only listen to hotline bling by Drake.
You'd think they would be racist fucks who only listen to the Dixie with all those white people, but it's the opposite.
>business school and engineering
>course loads aren't light
Oh man, this is rich. I fucking love when brainlet engineers think they have it tough because they take have to take DiffEq. Keep on telling yourself that. In reality, you're fucking retards who get 3.0s in majors that are easy as fuck for actual academics.
>t. Physics grad student
Go back to retaking CalcI for the third time, faggot boy. I'm sure you'll get a C this time.
I'm not surprised Engineers love joining frats, they seem to love sucking a lot of dick to get their way up the corporate ladder.
>What are you studying anyway?
>Also I have ~$25k saved up for school and some more soon. I-is that good?
It should be sufficient assuming you can organize your finances
I was ineligible for OSAP rght out the gate so I'm afraid I can't help you, friend.
Wearing letters on your shirt isn't free pussy
Frats are the last North American institution that advocate masculine virtue and traditional ethics. They're almost reactionary.
I'm not in engineering you salty faggot
>Frats are the last North American institution that advocate masculine virtue and traditional ethics. They're almost reactionary.
Worshipping niggers, is not by any means reactionary. Actually it's blue pilled as fuck
>Worshipping niggers, is not by any means reactionary. Actually it's blue pilled as fuck
what, this doesnt make any sense, frats and sororities have been getting in trouble recently for having racist themed parties
What the fuck are you talking about? Most decent frats were established in the 19th Century by puritanical school boys, and we they have a HEAVY emphasis on maintenance of tradition. Playing rap music at our parties isn't "nigger worship", whatever the fuck that means.
>Frats are the last North American institution that advocate masculine virtue and traditional ethics. They're almost reactionary.
They represent masculinity in the most degenerate way possible, and I'd hardly call their ethics traditional.
What we need is a sort of Tatenokai styled student movement.
> frats and sororities have been getting in trouble recently for having racist themed parties
By SJWs, for SJW standards of racism, you dumb fuck. Most fratsboys pray to Lord Yeezy and King A$AP Rocky while watching the NBA and talking about their favorite nigger athlete, while their sorority FWB is getting a train ran on her by Tyrone and his three nigger football player friends.
>"we need to fully exclude blacks from society, nobody should have contact with anything they associate themselves with"
>"UGH FUCKING NIGGERS WHY ARE THEY SO SHITTY WE TREAT THEM THE EXACT SAME"
>Prime example of your average fratbro
>Don't you see how masculine he is?
>He's just seething with "19th Century puritanism" and "maintenance of tradition".
Sorry that I don't see much in clubs that exist to glorify senseless hedonism and macho vanity.
Aren't I a terrible person for wanting an organization that expresses healthy, masculine values and works to defend positive traditions.
Whatever you say, Mister Straight-Edge.
>So pretty much people too stupid and too poor to get an invitation to the freemasons?
confirmed for not knowing shit, all you need is to know one you dumb fuck, the Mason's are really not that exclusive
>everyone has sex and drinks in college
All dorms ban alcohol and drug use and kick you out if you're caught...
How do normies get away with it? Is the secret to having sex in college to just hang out near colleges with an expensive car, but not actually attend classes?
Oh man this brings be back, true story here guys.
>Be Engineer doing calcIII homework in my history lecture
>sitting next to typical salmon short wearing frat.
>one day dude looks at my homework and goes, "dude why are you writing down the names of the frats? You taking some kind of Greek class?"
>confused as fuck at what he's saying
>he just stares at me looking pretty angry
>realize what he thought I was doing and told him it's math
>he says "woah, they use greek letters in math?"
I've met some smart fratboys, but holy shit this one takes the cake.
No, only for kids younger than 21 (which is the majority).
But my english roommate had no clue how strict we were and got in trouble by some cunt RA for having an open drink in the hallway.
He even explained to her that he had no clue that was a rule, and that it was normal in British Universities, but she just snapped at him and made him go to the bathroom and dump like $30 of liquor down the drain.
Epicurus warned against overindulgence, which is something Greek life proudly embodies. Drinking until you vomit on a weekly basis truly is the epitome of sensible, restrained pleasure-seeking.
While I wasn't ever in a frat I have learned a bit about it. I thought it would be just a bunch of douchebags circlejerking over chicks and getting shitfaced, while there are those parts to it in some frats it's not all of them and there is a bit more too it as some organize and run charity events. There are some legitimately nice people to meet though integrating into their group without being a member of the frat is difficult and is even more difficult if you don't intend on joining, there are those pricks who think of it as some exclusive club and try to keep the outsiders out. (Sounds familiar). Just network a little bit and you can meet some great people, have some great parties and you won't have to deal with the work of setting up events and shit.
There's actually three types of fraternities in the US.
1) broternities, these are the fraternities that only require a fee to join, usually don't have any benefits unless it's at an Ivy league
2) Academic Fraternities, these are fraternities that revolve around merit and intellectual circle jerks, this is where you go for connections in academia
3) exclusively academic fraternities (freemasons Illuminate type shit), these are academic fraternities that require a sponsor. Pretty much the ultimate academic circle jerk, but pretty much guarantees you a job anywhere and in almost any field
>some organize and run charity events
Oh, I guess sucking a dick to join is worth it then, bro fäm dude.
I'm not a member of one so I don't know if hazing is still a part of joining them. I've heard that some freshmen in them just get really shitfaced when they joined, I'm sure there is some fucked up shit going down in some frats.
Not a frat member, but hear a lot of stories from people I know who are in frats. A lot of fucked up things go on in frats in my area.
Like massive hazing events and massive rape incidents.
There's some frats that aren't that bad, but some of them seem to attract the biggest entitled scumbags.
The truth: the shittier the frat, the more sketchy shit they do, which leads to increasingly humiliating initiations so actives have dirt on new members. So if a new member doesn't like that an older member date rapes a girl, that old member can prevent him from going to the police by threatening to release a video of that new member doing the elephant walk.
>You're correct and incorrect at the same time
I'd be willing to admit that. My knowledge of Epicurus is only second-hand.
But that is irrelevant to my line of thought. What I want is a somewhat stoic or ascetic organization.
My school has a service fraternity. They were pretty nice.
I can't even count on 2 hands the amount of times the frats got in trouble for date rape at parties around here.
I didn't join a frat because I don't want to be associated with these type of people.
Not like it really matters anymore, since I already have a job lined up after graduation.
Yeah. If you want to generalize, the more old and widespread a frat is, the more reputable. It's the shitty new local frats that really stain the reputation of the greek system.
>why is america so shit, bros?
Every country has it's problems. Here is no different. Our news is shit and our government sucks the dicks of businesses while shitting all over our citizens, not to mention our infrastructure of our buildings and bridges is in a terrible state of disrepair. The normal American person likes to bitch about problems and do nothing at all to fix them, unless that problem is mental in which case mental illnesses still have a stigma attached to them. I shouldn't have answered your question so seriously but I'm bored.
Yeah I can see that happening, It's all about finding the right people.
To be fair, those positions are where the actual money is. High skilled jobs might assure you a middle or even upper-middle class life, but generally they won't take you much further.
The sekkrit club ends up getting a bunch of messed up people to befriend just as messed up individuals. It's a pretty fucked up cycle that ensures that the shitty people end up staying shitty, any normal person would have backed out way before they ended up with another dudes dick in their hand.
Hazing like that is not as widespread as you would think. I was in a fraternity and never did anything remotely like this.
I did get blindfolded and dropped off with another pledge in a cornfield outside of town and had to walk back, but that was a lot of fun
Man I wish I was American... For fucks sake why is life so unfair? I like American culture, I loved American pie movies and Blue Mountain State. I like basketball and american football. I like American food and I'm honestly more interested in American politics than Danish politics. Why was I born as a Dane? I feel American and want to be an American citizen ;_;
Yeah. Fraternities(for men) and sororities(for girls)
They do seem kinda cultish but most of them are pretty harmless.
The worst that happens is usually the seniors will force the freshman to drink beyond their limit and they get food poisoning.
Schools try to cut down on more dangerous hazing, like being pelted by socks that has soap bars in them
Come to America as an exchange student, women here love people from other countries, it's a huge bonus if you have an accent. If you like American football, people in a state like Wisconsin who are huge fans of the sport would love the shit out of you.
Depends on the university. I study at a particular university in Oklahoma where it is well above a quarter of the student population. We have some secret handshakes and little questions to test members if they are in the group. For example, you ask if someone knows Bob you must answer specifically and have a preplanned memorized conversation.
It is a good way to get laid and get drugs. If I seriously tried I could get laid with a different girl every weekend, but I am too lazy/have too much school work.
>women here love people from other countries
Yeah, I can see how that would play out
>Aww you're so cute, where are you from?
>Hahaha Poland? Is that the shithole with bears on the streets?
>N-no... I said H-holland.
Only at older universities. They're pretty much just designated drinking clubs filled with conservatives though. Sometimes they beat up each other with swords. (at least that's the stereotypical picture)
It's too late for me... Just got my apartment in Copenhagen after 2 years of waiting + I have studied here for 2 years now ;_; I have too much to lose at this point. Hopefully I will be reborn as an American in my next life, or I can live my life through my sons and send them to an American university when they are old enough
I wouldn't even step my foot in your prostitute creating country. Shoo shoo gipsy and tell your mother to give my money back, her BJ sucks
Reminds me of a funny story
My dad's friend dropped off his daughter to college and saw one of these frat houses with that kind of sign
He grabbed his shotgun out of his truck, walked up to the kids and said if he found out any of them fucked his daughter, he'd come looking.
I wouldn't see it going down like that, Americans don't really think of stereotypes of European countries. Instead you would probably get asked by girls to speak some Polish or to try to speak in an American accent. Don't indulge them too much or you'll end up as the dog doing tricks for them rather than as a man they might be interested in.
Nah man, it's never too late, there is always a way to do something if you talk to the right people.
If you aren't in a fraternity sorority girls won't fuck you. If you are interational/exchange student you aren't getting into a fraternity. Don't get these international Europeans' hopes up.
Not necessarily, if you have a good name with the frat guys you don't have to be a part of them to get with a sorority girl. However if one girl in the sorority says you're a creep or some shit you can be sure that nobody in the sorority shes in is going to fuck you.
LMAOOOOoooO. They will m8, we even used to make fun of the Polacks at my highschool.
Some dorms have a 3 strike rule and even then there are exceptions. One of my friends was caught 3 times, each time he got an increasing fine, and after that the third time he had to go to a class that explained the dangers of underage drinking and promise that he would not drink in the dorm again or he would be kicked out. However in that class he just got to make more connections with people so he just made more friends to get shitfaced with. Funny how that works.
Yeah, it's all a bit outdated and strange, especially the rituals. I've never met anyone who claimed to be a part of those fraternities, even though my university has several.
Eh, there are some nice girls there, it's just that it can get really cliquey and the women can be really fucking petty. Euro's wouldn't have it any harder than any other dude and might even have it easier than some other people since some groups want to have the "foreign guy" in their friend group.
Lol the place I'm living at (new apartment close to Copenhagen university) is filled with kebabs and crime. It's cheap and close to my uni so I don't complain, I just pray my bike won't get stolen
His parents were rich so he didn't give a shit about the fines, he paid over 1k for the fines in total I know that much. After the 3rd time instead of hosting the parties in his room he moved them to one of his new friends.
Yeah some colleges really want to discourage drinking on campus. I went to a college in Wisconsin where drinking is a huge part of the state and fines are even more expensive than those of colleges in other states.
why are people so fucking uptight in these threads?
burn the whole country because white college kids like partying?
Our college system is more fun than anyone elses but its expensive as fuck.
I can't complain there, college parties and being with people your age all the time is pretty great.Though I absolutely hate how expensive it is here, and how textbook companies are in league with colleges to fuck over the students for even more cash. Scholarships can only cover so much.
>Yeah some colleges really want to discourage drinking on campus. I went to a college in Wisconsin where drinking is a huge part of the state and fines are even more expensive than those of colleges in other states.
Shit dude. In Canada you can get drunk in dorms when you're 18 if you have a 19 year old to buy you liquor and you don't get too loud/disturbing to other kids. I've drank with campus security when I offered one a beer.
Because of the higher drinking age and taboo factor here, it's pretty much guaranteed that students will start drinking way more than they can handle as soon as they go off to college. Many of those retards destroy dorm or university property, or die in their own vomit, leading to total prohibition and massive penalties in order to appease hand-wringing mothers.
I think fostering a culture of responsible drinking, like they do in Yurop, would be much better than what we have here now, but I doubt it'll ever change.
Not always, there's often a new book every year and the colleges require the students to buy the new book rather than have the previous edition. It's a pain in the ass since often the books are almost exactly the same with the only difference being that they rearranged some of the chapters so if you used an older edition you wouldn't be able to follow the class in order as easily.
I fucking hate this shit. Paying upwards of 50 dollars or more to just get a key to access a shitty site that I will be using for less than 6 months.
I was caught with some alcohol on me and the campus security had me pour it all out in front of them or they would write me up.
Yup, these kids are deemed old enough to enlist in the Military and take other human beings lives on the other side of the planet yet they are too immature to drink a beer.
Canada manages it pretty well, but freshman girls still can't handle it. During rush parties we have like three bros dedicated to walking super drunk girls back to their dorms if we feel like she can't make it herself or of we think she'll be taken advantage of (inb4 accusations of being white knights or rapists)
It's also filled with young hipster students l-like meh :'-/ It's really close to my university so a lot of people have signed up for those apartments. Had a friend who have waited just as long as me in a even shittier part of the city
The idea of "rape culture" has been drilled into new college students heads here. When I was a freshman in my college here some jackoffs made a play for the new people that was intended for the male students that essentially told us "If you are a man you are potentially a rapist, don't rape people." It's annoying to be told of being a potential rapist in the first few weeks of getting on campus.
inb4 neckbeard but college feminist groups, at least from the ones I've experienced first hand, have been fucking awful.
Before my freshman year I had to take this online safety course about drinking, stalking, rape, etc. One of the scenarios they presented was a frat bro trying to rape another frat bro.
Still scarred to this day
Which is fucking weird. A lot of the time networking with others for career and business benefits just seem so fake and insincere.
Nah, I went to University of Wisconsin Eau Claire. Disturbing to know that so many colleges do this shit.
not in a frat myself but i party with fratbros regularly
some of the people in the frats are great and some are scumbags. it really just depends on if you're joining a well-established frat that doesnt let every tom dick and harry in
My uni is pretty good at this sort of thing for a large uni. They don't shit like label all guys potential rapists and when they do cover that it's obvious things like you can't consent while drunk and place responsibility equally on men and women.
Same thing with religion and race, you see equal criticisms of stereotyping any race, including whites; when it comes to religion it's actually pretty pro-christian with how they put up a Christmas tree and gave a Santa program, but then again I guess you argue that Christmas is pretty secular now.
UT Austin btw
Also concealed carry is allowed and the restrictions are rational, but rationality is expected when you have academics in charge instead of emotional teens and activist groups.
I was in a pretty diverse fraternity which made it cool, we had guys all over the map. Potheads, classic fratbros, Jews, black people, absolute nerds, etc. Definitely the weird/drug frat but we all had a lot of fun together. I miss the days where at just about any time of day or night I could walk down the hallway and find someone to shotgun a beer or smoke some weed with.
and it depends on the school and the culture. I went to a small college and I never would have joined one at a large state school.
You're right, it is completely fake and insincere. The trick is bullshitting people well enough that they actually like you without coming across as insincere.
Nepotism really is ridiculous, being on good terms with one person in a company might land you the job over someone who's far more qualified. People going into business realize this, hence all the sucking up that happens during college, and the selfish mindset to treat friends as "connections" and as "assets" to "further your career."
Yup, people are really sensitive about anything sexual. Even being accused of sexual harassment is enough to get you in deep shit. A guy in my dorm in my sophomore year was kicked out after a gay guy in my dorm said he went into his shower stall while he was in it without his permission and started groping him. There was no evidence other than spoken testimony yet the guy was still banned from the dorms. He still attended the classes but had to live off campus until he changed schools, and even then the "harassment" was on his record.
That's good, a lot of Uni's seem to be pushing that women cannot be at fault any sexual scenario. Funnily enough this reminds me of when I was at a party and sat down with a friend to talk and some shitfaced landwhale sits next to me and grabs my crotch and tries to make out with me. He though it was the funniest shit but that was genuinely one of the most disturbing things I've experienced at a party and if I ever did the same to a woman I would have been expelled or labeled a rapist.
so you can just fuck someone's life up in USA just by claiming he or she harassed you, without evidence except your testimony that smells of lies?
If you're a woman or deemed as part of a minority such as a gay man and it's been determined that you would have no reason to lie about the harassment then yes, your claim can fuck up somebodies life. If the college doesn't take the claim seriously the groups on campus may claim the college is "victim blaming" and supports sexual harassment. I know it sounds biased as fuck but that's just the conclusion I've seen from my experiences. I go to a community college now since it's cheaper and I don't have to deal with that horseshit.
You know that if you post on 4chan it's very likely that those kind of people would have made fun of you for being a loser, virgin etc.
I'm Australian, we [mostly] go to uni to study, get a degree and then hopefully a well paying job, *NOT* have a 4 year long fuck/booze-fest holiday from our parents and responsibilities with a bunch of strangers from all over the country.
Well yeah, I'm the same way and treated Uni as a job and most people will do the same, there's no harm in having some fun on the side but the main purpose is to get an education. There are some people in America that treat Uni as an extension of high school and just fuck around for 4 years. Then when they realize that they accumulated a shit ton of debt for no reason thats when they start regretting it.
You can't fuck around as much as you may think in American colleges, at least at the college I was at, if your GPA went under 2.0 for more than a year you would be put on academic probation, then if after another semester if it was still poor you would be suspended for a semester.
You sure you haven't met any? They usually have a bit of a group in classes and hang around each other. That's one benefit of the frats I guess, you won't be sitting alone if another person in your frat is in your class.
>>I hate fun
"Mature aged" student here so my views may differ but even when I was at uni in my 20's it wasn't the case - more that we had our fun elsewhere.
>(You) - I don't take my studies seriously and am probably only just going to scrape by with a pass. If I really struggle and put in a mammoth effort at the very end...
>Then when they realize that they accumulated a shit ton of debt for no reason thats when they start regretting it.
Exactly - getting a HECS debt here is fucking easy, paying it off when you have you 1st "real" job (particularly when you also probably have other debts/responsibilties) is a real cunt.
You may not have any frats that emphasize your major or degree. I know there was a frat on my campus that focused on male students who were going into business so business classes always had a group of frat dudes together.
Yeah I'm almost done college.
I was a "dude lets just have fun" guy my first year of college, but then I started realizing that I didn't know shit about my major, and my Uni wasn't going to teach me the skills i needed to get a job, so i started getting a lot more serious about studying outside class.
I take Friday nights off, but I spend that time just relaxing in my room watching movies.
The rest of the week is reading and learning.
I also want to point out.
To the people going ">hurr no fun" to people who disapprove of partying.
You're probably in the wrong major if you can't find any fun in studying for your major or doing projects.
When I learn about math or do programming assignments I find it extremely exciting and satisfying after I'm finished.
party frats/sororities are only really a thing at shit universities. the school I went to during my undergrad was just slightly above average and frats were shut down all the time when they were discovered to provide alcohol to minors. the school I transferred to for graduate school is extremely strict in what frats and sororities it allows. If it doesnt seem to fulfill any purpose or if its members grades are too low they get down.
It's true. All of it. The Lilyprint clothes, the hyper conformity. They're real.
t. live right by the house in pic related
>6'4 220 lbs and told I'm attractive
>join bottom tier house since I'm an autist
>most guys are too pleb for me, but there are a few I can chill with
>don't get laid because I'm an autist and bottom tier
>regret not joining top tier meathead frat that recruits based off how big you are
>party frats/sororities are only really a thing at shit universities
This is simply not true
In my experience the more prominent the university is the bigger the frat partys
Frats are honestly a great way to meet and make new friends. You also establish connections with wealthy Alumni.
You also get to stay in a massive house with ur best friends and basically have a huge party fund.
Fraternities/Sororities are disgusting
>mfw I found out a lab partner was in one
>Literally it's just throwing parties, going to handegg games/apehoop and hazing (usually something demeaning or gay)
>300$ per semester for "friends"
I'm not lying, engineering pleb
They do well in their classes because they study together and have resources like past exams and knowledge on what's coming up from other members who have taken the classes before
I'm doing MEd. I went back to study mainly out of boredumb - I'm a teacher, my kids are both finished or nearly finished primary school. I stopped teaching a year ago and focussed on my business - it's good, hard work but doesn't engage me very much mentally (handyman).
>tfw I did know some of the grillz who lived on campus when I was younger and none of them put out.
>Country grillz m8, you'd have more luck with their pet sheep!
So they cheat? Great way proving that they're not drooling retards. You sure got me.
Also I'm a Math major too, you retarded Physics retard.
Oh and, Good luck finding a Job after graduation.
Old usenet sig - easier to find threads/posts on archives
must just be my experience. I grew up in georgia and did my undergrad at georgia tech where the greek party scene was basically nonexistent while University of Georgia and Georgia southern had huge party scenes (while being below average schools). I did an REU at Dartmouth and am currently attending grad school at UNC Chapel Hill and again there was nothing resembling the college movie party scene
Heh isn't it weird that almost half the people in this thread is filled with fraternity kids on a friday night?
What happened, I thought you were suppose to be partying and fucking chicks. Are fraternities now filled with autists or something? Things sure have changed
>inb4 d-d-dude I'm getting read for a party!
Sure you are
>In my experience the more prominent the university is the bigger the frat party
This is complete bullshit it's hilarious.
one) most prominent universities are filled with Asians and indians who study 24/7 and wouldn't even dare joining a frat
two) Jews only join Jewish frats, and those are mostly for academics
three) I go to UPenn and the frats here are the laughing stock of the entire school
>he doesn't have an easy way of searching archives so he can use posts from previous threads to win arguments against strangers on a Vietnamese Croquet Appreciation imageboard
Looking at past exams isn't cheating, profs even hand them out since they won't reuse the exams because they aren't retards.
Holy shit you're one of those plebs who use uni as job training.
Hey European friends, don't listen to these Fraternity autists, They love making themselves sound good.
In fact, they are the laughing stock of University, and usually major in Business or some gay social degree. No one takes them seriously, and most colleges hate them because they have yearly raping sprees that make the colleges look bad.
Also a majority of them perform in the bottom 50 percentile too.
They are only there for "tradition" from when University use to be for actual smart people who were in the top 10% of the country. Now it's just a joke that people go to get a "Job degree".
Also notice how a bunch of the frat cucks are trying to bring up their history, but the truth is fraternities use to be places for academic discussion and thinking outside of lecture, but has changed to degenerate party club, They are absolutely nothing what they were like before.
Hope that clears a few things up
>Holy shit you're one of those plebs who use uni as job training.
Holy shit you're one of *those* guys who do nothing but fuck around at uni and only just scrape thru with a pass because the lecturer doesn't want to fuck up their GPA
Nigga the most beautiful white girl I've EVER seen was from Denmark. I would give up this SoCal weather in a heartbeat for some primetime qts
I don't need to read my old posts in order to remember arguments. My memory is enough for that.
Admittedly I can also quote books I read once several years ago so maybe I'm an outlier.
uni is quite literally supposed to be job training, at least it is in virtually all STEM fields. starting your sophomore year if you are not doing research or workshops you are wasting time
You're fucking retarded what I'm saying is to go for an education, not a job
No I'm the guy who studies hard to learn because that's what uni is for, if you want a job go to technical school.
A - 90+% - 4.0 GPA
B - 80+% - 3.0 GPA
C - 70+% - 2.0 GPA
D - 60+% - 1.0 GPA
F - <60% - 0.0 GPA
GPA is calculated on a per credit basis 16 credits with 8 being B's and 8 A's gives you a 3.5 GPA
Grade Point Average.
Letter grades are numbered, the average of those numbers is your GPA. F=0, D=1, C=2, B=3, A=4
A 4.0 GPA indicates that you got straight A's, for example.
If you take Advanced Placement courses (effectively college classes in highschool) it's weighted higher, so you can actually get up to a 5.0 GPA, and that's really good for getting scholarships.
Ah ok, I see. In Germany it's a bit more nuanced, we get grades in 1/3 increments. (The best grade is 1.0, then you get 1.3, 1.7, 2.0, ... until 5.0) The average is then calculated from that.
>majors in Engineering and Math for fun
>must be doing it for da Jerbs!
So you're saying I went into Mathematics to get a job and not an education?
How fucking stupid can you be? Something tells me you're a Computer Science major pretending to be a Physics major, I'm probably right on that.
> I'm attacking him for trying to be smug about what major he chose.
Why shouldn't he?
You don't have pride in your field of study? Then maybe you should switch majors, since you obviously have no love for what you're learning.
Every Physics professor I have ever met has been smug as shit, but they all had one thing in common, they absolutely loved Physics and were good at it. Are you sure you're the same?
Acting like on major is better than another is ignorant.
Every single physics prof I've met were humble and understood the limits of their field, same with math professors.