is this thing common in american unis\collages ?. can burgerclaps

Paying for friends desu.

Knew a gal who had to stop being part of a sorority to save money because her mother was sick. They all turned their back on her except three and acted like they never knew her. And this is after explaining to them why and having they try to guilty trip her into staying.

>>53968665
>Cult
Used to be, not anymore.Think of them as old boys clubs that you join to have connections

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It's just a secret club for normies to haze initiates and hold exclusive parties.

2bh can't imagine how any parent would allow their daughter to join knowing what those places are. Cuck culture at work I guess.

>tfw you will never crossdress as a girl and be hazed by closet lesbo sorority grills

>>53969985
>>53969937
>>53969888
What a stupid country.

>>53968665
they're all whores :)

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>frats
I had to share my campus with those obnoxious braindead douchebags for 4 years, never again

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>>53973317
I blame German culture

>>53968665
I never understood Greek life desu. My university has no fraternities or sororities. The students at my university preceive those who participate in Greek life to be barbaric. It's essentially an institution for those who wish to get drunk 6 nights a week and cheat on their exams.

>>53973205
Please stop it hurts.

>>53969888
>>53969937
>>53969985
God damn it. Why is America full of losers?

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>>53973673
>The students at my university preceive those who participate in Greek life to be barbaric.

Who then married the girls that got broken in by the Greeks, circle of life senpai

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>you spent your young adulthood playing video games and watching chinese cartoons instead of doing this

What went wrong, /int/?

>>53974055
It's not too late m8

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>>53974111
I don't have the will to power, Sven

Life has passed me by

>>53968665
Fraternities and sororities are meant to be service organizations. Most people just join them because in most colleges they get their own small house, meaning plenty of opportunity for exclusive parties. However, many schools don't even have Greek life, and some fraternities and sororities mainly focus on service. Some don't even get their own housing, meaning there's no incentive to join if you're only in it for the sex/drinking. It varies a lot here.

>>53969888
>>53969937
>>53969985
>>53973642
>>53973869
>>53974055
>>53974184
>>53974370

>american """""""""culture"""""""""""

Where did it all go so wrong. The future generetaions will be raised by these people. Were fucked.

>>53974465
People change their attitude drastically when they have kids.

>>53974184
lol at that sign

>>53974549
I don't think so. Divorces and single mothers are increasing.

>>53974465
Keep in mind these people are only a small percentage of our college population. Who cares if dumb fucks get a few years of partying; it's not going to change anything in the long run.

>>53974370
>bunch of senior sorority grills harassing and fucking innocent freshman boys.

Found my new fetish

>>53974627
Nah, this has been a thing for awhile. We know when to cut the crap.

>>53974627
Those numbers have actually gone down significantly since the 90s.

Pretty funny that Americans think it's disgusting to sit naked in a steamed room with your friends because they think it's sexual but have weird hazing rituals sprinkled with lots of sexual shit and posters like >>53974370

So hypocritical

>>53969985
>the average 4 chan user
Probably never touched a woman

>>53968665
>>53968665
>No Niggers
Nice

These are kinda funny, what's wrong with you guys?

>>53974861
not because its sexual, but gay
saunas are gay here, do you understand?

>>53969937

>WVU

Literal retards

I don't fucking know what frats and shit are desu

>>53974988
Yeah. I don't see what the problem is--everyone has sex and drinks in college, who cares if there are organizations dedicated to it? It's not affecting anything.

>>53975054
>YEAH BRO LET'S HIT THEEEEEEEEEEE SHOOOOOOWEEEERSSSSSSS
>*slaps ass*
>>Uh I prefer sauna after intense excercise
>WHOA BRO THAT'S SO FUCKING GAY DUDE ARE YOU A FAGGOT BRO HOLY SHIT

>>53974772
>>53974801
Stop trying to give me false hope for the future. Were fucked! FUCKED!

>>53975140
see
>>53974440

>>53975222
i agree with this finn

>>53974440
>Greek life

What

>>53974977
>black people in greek life
no it's all about money and status
black people almost never find themselves in them
it's literally the college version of good ol boys

>>53968665

>2016
>going to a school with greek

Please.

If you're looking for a serious fraternity organization for connections and making friends, DU is the way to go.
>Join DU
>be in a serious fraternity populated with former presidents, no immature dipshits

problem solved

>>53974055
That chink in the front right is serious as fuck

>>53975286
they are all wannabe epicureans

>>53975286
Moat frats are named by putting 3 greek letters together

Why this is, I have no clue

>>53974861
no it's supposed to be gay
they make you do gay shit like stuff stuff up your butt or suck a guys dick for initiates
pay off is free pussy though

the gayness is what turns 90% of potential initiates off and what keeps it exclusive

>>53974465
>thinking a few college students partying and fucking will ruin everything
And you fucks call us stupid.

>>53974988
being retarded on purpose isn't automatically funny

>>53974440

>Greek life

I'd really like to know what you guys define as Greek life

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>>53975736
see >>53975456

Also they wear togas sometimes

>>53975736
greek life just means soro and frats
its based of greek fraternities or some shit so they all have greek names
it has almost nothing to do with greece except sometime they do shit with togas

We don't have frats here

>>53974370
>megan does butt stuff
best veteran

>>53968665
loled so hard at this fat ass in a middle

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Ask a fratboy anything

>>53975818
what are these fat ukrainians doing?

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>>53968665
Look at all the redskins.

>>53974184
kek

>>53976033
>his country has to steal from american "culture"

So, do you fuck braindead sluts on regular basis ?

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join the right one

>>53976033
Are Canadian frats polite?

>>53975818
>>53975833

This is dumb.

If you want to live the actual Greek life, you should establish an Orthodox Church, give it 10% of your lands and force everyone to fund them through taxation. Now that's true Greek culture.

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>>53975508
>holy shit bro you stuffed your ass with that 25cm dildo so hard welcome to our frat bro holy shit dude like holy shit bro shit
>>lmao thanks bro dude holy shit it was my pleasure (not in a sexual way that's gay like holy shit dude shit bro shit)
>AT LEAST WE DON'T HAVE SAUNAS BUTT NAKED LIKE THOSE FUCKING FINNS AMIRITE BRO HOLY SHIT LIKE THEY'RE FUCKING GAY DUDE HOLY SHIT LIKE HOLY BRO SHIT
>>>YE BRO I FEEL YOU PASS THE BLUNT SON LIKE HOLY SHIT ITS LIKE THAT TIME I SMOKED COCK IN THIS FRAT DURING HAZING (not in sexual way lmao)
>>HAHA YEAH THOSE FUCKING GAY ASS FINNS SORRY I HAVE TO TIP THE AMBULANCE CREW NOW I HAD RECTAL PROLAPSE

what a country

>>53976197
well they are accumulating a lot of debt, that's more greek-like than anything you listed

>>53976033
Do you like football?

>>53976148
We didn't steal anything. Frats have been establishing chapters in Canada since the end of the 19th century.
>So, do you fuck braindead sluts on regular basis ?
Depends on the time of year. I don't fuck as much as most of the guys around me. I haven't fucked in over a month but I haven't gone out of my way to get my dick wet.

>>53976182
Depends which frat we're talking about

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>>53975903
Yes we do m8. They are called republicas, its the same shit. Only difference is that the houses are shitier

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>>53976217

Finland, I love you.

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>>53976217
>mfw frat douches and brodouches unironically talk like this

>>53976309
Republicas are quite tame compared to frats - I've lived in one.

>>53976296
Not really. I like hockey and rugby. I play on our flag-football team sometimes though, but I'm not very good.

As retarded as they are they can sometimes help you get a job as you are making connections.

>>53976309
that house looks pretty decent desu senpai

unfortunately none of those guys are white

>>53976217
shame we don't live in a tolerant country where we can watch sweat drip off of another man's ball sack and not feel gay about it.

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>>53976217
Finland bringing the bants.

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>>53976217
>AT LEAST WE DON'T HAVE SAUNAS BUTT NAKED LIKE THOSE FUCKING FINNS AMIRITE BRO HOLY SHIT LIKE THEY'RE FUCKING GAY DUDE HOLY SHIT LIKE HOLY BRO SHIT

>anyone outside of int knowing finland even exists

they gave us the subject matter for revenge of the nerds and animal house

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>>53976472
>Americuck damage control
It never gets old.

>>53976487
One of the writers of Animal House was in my frat.

>>53976288
close enough i guess

What do people do in frat houses anyways?

>>53976366
I know, I live in both (São Carlos and UW-Madison) Same shit in the end m8.

Of course you can compared Brazil with USA directly they do some unimaginable things to us bruzlians but its not like we dont have some hardcore parties in our land as well.

>>53976654
Drink. Fuck. Play sports. Play video games. Study. Eat. Sleep.

>>53976654
drink

>>53976430
you can't watch sweat drip off another man's ballsack but you're more than happy to stuff some student organization's initiates' asses with dildos?

>>53976709
Y-you mean have sex in public ?

>>53976823
We have have bedrooms in frat houses, believe it or not.

>>53968665
We have them too actually and they have a very long tradition here, played a major role in the war againt Napoleon and the republican movement in Germany

Much of education is actually a form of hazing. Doing boring, bureaucratic busywork to enter a profession.

Once in, game-theoretically you must perpetuate the same stuff on the younger generation to keep entry into your profession expensive.

That's why physicians are happy about the medical cartels, lawyers are happy about justice systems, and so on. These institutions give them their daily bread.

Then once in a while it becomes more economical to just have a revolution and write your own laws and rituals.

Think of how the working class in Egypt ditched the hieroglyphs and invented the alphabet.

>>53976964
I had a test on German student societies like Corps and whatever the other one is that starts with "b" when I was a pledge. Shit sucked but I know they're pretty based.

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>>53976709
>Study

>>53977031
>Much of education is actually a form of hazing.
Yes and it is also a way to give people a sense of worth about their profession to make sure they behave responsibly in their jobs and value tradition etc.

That's why studying law or medicine is so hard (at least in Germany)

>>53977347
We've got a lot of guys in business school and engineering, their course loads aren't light. We have a couple rooms that are reserved for quiet studying. A lot of these guys join because they don't have a lot of free time, and want to really let loose when they do.
We're fairly intelligent guys when we're not drinking.

>>53977496
You mean cheat

>>53977576
No, we have no means to cheat and even if we did we would be risking expulsion every time we did so. We do not have an archive of previous year exams in our basement, our school is far too reputable to allow such an oversight.

>>53976297
What are some good frats in Canada?

I thought most of them were in the US and Canada only had a few at select schools which were basically watered down versions of the US.

>>53977421

In Finland, it's funny.

For the Swedish-speaking elite, there are more (Swedish) slots allocated in universities.

As to the majority, I've noticed, mostly girls and low-test males can enter law, medicine and so on. High-test Finnish males can be to impatient to apply themselves to studying.

So you could think of it as a castration system for the plebs. Anyway, in any society, there can be only so much high-test males on top, with their tendency for territorial struggle.

>>53977696
>our school is far too reputable to allow such an oversight.

Sounds like Queen's desu. Amirite?

>>53977885
Are you an actual life school's doctorate professor?

>>53977786
>What are some good frats in Canada?
I can't list any off for you, there are too many and I only know about the ones at my university. For example, my frat is in Canada, we have three chapters. But I can't vouch for any chapter but my own.
>I thought most of them were in the US
You are correct.
>basically watered down versions of the US
Depends what you mean. Rushing, pledging, initiation, ritual etc is standardized throughout all chapters of a frat. So the traditions are not watered down.
In terms of partying, some frats in Canada go as hard as in the US, and some are really fucking lame. At my school we have a pretty good Greek system, so we go hard pretty frequently.

>>53977890
No, frats are banned at Queen's and Queen's is a school for faggots anyways. Literally Daddy's money: the school, except it has shit academics compared to the Big Three and its parties are vastly overhyped. I applied to it and got in, but never considered going there for more than five minutes.

>>53978092
D-do you recommend I join one?

I took 2 gap years after hs and planning on applying to Uni just now. I will study Business.

>Literally Daddy's money: the school, except it has shit academics compared to the Big Three and its parties are vastly overhyped

In what way? I'd literally suck a Cock to get into Queen's Commerce or Eng. It is also the whitest school.

What school is better? UofT is just a Chinese/Indian meme factory with no school spirit unless you reach Trinity college.

Western is only good for life sci.

UBC is China central.

UWaterloo is only good for co-op and engineering.

WLU only good for Business.

McMaster is just shit

Laurentian is feces

Brock/York/Trent/Guelph is just a waste of money

>>53978055
Yeah, I've spent a lot of time reading about conspiracies and hanging out with losers.

But meditation helped me to finally write my master's thesis, got the inspiration and vision. Good stuff. Should be out soon. Took only 15 years. We'll see what happens. Would like to spread a new alphabet to the world.

Anyway, with the invasion of Europe we're gonna see some kind of anarchy and Illuminist police state coming. A paradigm shift for better or worse.

>>53968884
this

it's the way capitalist America works, these kids do retarded, humiliating shit and slut it up along with paying frat/sorority dues in exchange for professional connections that they take with them after college

it's supposed to be a good thing

>>53978536
>it's the way capitalist America works

More like how human nature works desu.

>>53978444
Depends where you end up going to school.
>Queen's
Yeah, their commerce is sufficient, more so if you stay in Ontario after graduation. Outside less so, since Queen's reputation doesn't carry itself outside of the province.
It has no frats. Well, it does, but they're not sanctioned by the school so they're rank as fuck and all around super fucking lame.
>UofT is just a Chinese/Indian meme factory with no school spirit unless you reach Trinity college
Correct, undergrad life is lacking here. Good school though. Great frats to make up for generally shitty social life. Great frat + downtown Toronto frat house = good times.
>Western is only good for life sci.
And partying
>UBC is China central
Warm weather, beach on campus, best Greek system in Canada. I'm from Toronto but go to school at UBC. Everything I said about UoT and frats applies here.

>>53975508
Usually the greek letters each stand for some trait

Like Alpha would mean courage or hard work or something. Not that it ACTUALLY means that, but probably in their own school's tradition or something. I really don't' know why all these frats look so degenerate. Really just depends on the quality of the school.

>>53976033
post pics of yourself/group picture pls

>>53978910
Actually, most of the time a frat's letters represent a secret motto in Greek.

>>53976197
I kek'd

>>53978971
ahhh that's right. I knew it was something of the sort

>>53978648
nah, it's all going to come crashing down

As it is, nepotism alone can't get you an actual skilled job. Just bullshit in business and management.

>>53978771
>Yeah, their commerce is sufficient, more so if you stay in Ontario after graduation. Outside less so, since Queen's reputation doesn't carry itself outside of the province.

??

Queens has some of the best international reputation.

Y-you actually dropped that much dough to study at UBC? Isn't it a lot more expensive if you're from ontario or is it same as domestic students?

Tbh I'm considering going to WLU BBA or Econ just for the co-op and drastically lower tuition than other Business schools.

SEems pretty good idea since I'll not only save on tuition but also pay off most of tuition with co-op + the 1 year of experience should make up for any differences in prestige.

>>53973819
They throw the parties on campus, so people tolerate them. No one over the age of 21 likes them.

>>53979193
>Queens has some of the best international reputation.
This is a meme only Ontarians believe. Queen's has been claiming to be important for so long people started to believe it, despite it all being purely rhetoric.
>Y-you actually dropped that much dough to study at UBC? Isn't it a lot more expensive if you're from ontario or is it same as domestic students?
I'm not like you, I haven't needed to work for anything in my life. My father is paying for me. It's slightly more expensive for out-of-provincers to go to UBC.
>Tbh I'm considering going to WLU BBA or Econ just for the co-op and drastically lower tuition than other Business schools
Good idea, Laurier is a decent school and I have a couple friends in the BBA program that seem happy. Laurier has Sigma Chi, Pi Kappa Epsilon, Zeta Psi and maybe a couple others. I've heard mixed things about Laurier frats but apparently Zeta Psi has been really good there for the last couple years.

>>53974370
>>53974055

So...these are where the slags are hiding in America. I knew there had to be some.

>>53974370
>>53974055
>>53973869
>>53973642

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JXlsXHi26w

>>53979475
>I'm not like you, I haven't needed to work for anything in my life. My father is paying for me

>Calls Queen's a school for rich kids
>Is rich kid himself
ok lol. What are you studying anyway?

Also I have ~$25k saved up for school and some more soon. I-is that good?

Only issue is that since it's in my tfsa I'm pretty sure I'm now fucking illegible for OSAP which is retarded. What do

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>>53975298
You're an idiot, blacks have black fraternities and black sororities, pic related is Shaq reppin Omega Psi Phi

>>53976309
Just looks like a sharehouse to me...

>>53976694
>Of course you can compared Brazil with USA directly they do some unimaginable things to us bruzlians

story time

How does this culture not clash with the ultra sjw culture at most colleges?

>>53976297
>I haven't gone out of my way to get my dick wet.
Pfft, you joined a frat, you dumb chink.

>>53979663
lol, normies.

I was actually in a fraternity in college and I think they have a lot of misconceptions, especially on 4chan

>>53980058
it does, most of the SJW shit like mattress on the back is as a result of some dumb bitch getting drunk and laid at a frat house then trying to say she didnt remember so it must be rape

>>53976321
Yeah, it's cringeworthy as fuck when you hear these wannabe niggers ending every sentence with "bruhhh" and "senpai" when they aren't even black. And they only listen to hotline bling by Drake.
You'd think they would be racist fucks who only listen to the Dixie with all those white people, but it's the opposite.

>>53980058
It does, but Greek organizations often have powerful alumni on their side, and many schools need them to advertise a party culure

>>53980299
>Yeah, it's cringeworthy as fuck when you hear these wannabe niggers ending every sentence with "senpai" when they aren't even black.

Thank you based Hiro

>>53980299
>"bruhhh" and "senpai"

i would laugh my ass off if I heard a fratbro saying senpai, holy shit

>>53977496
>business school and engineering
>course loads aren't light
Oh man, this is rich. I fucking love when brainlet engineers think they have it tough because they take have to take DiffEq. Keep on telling yourself that. In reality, you're fucking retards who get 3.0s in majors that are easy as fuck for actual academics.

>>53980319
which is where all the crybaby victim complexes on campus come from

>>53980058
Google "a rape on campus"

Feminist tried to frame a frat for gang rape, MSM ate it up, no one took responsibility when it was debunked

ITT: Rapists justifying rape

>>53980455
t. communications major

>>53980568
>t. Physics grad student
FTFY
Go back to retaking CalcI for the third time, faggot boy. I'm sure you'll get a C this time.

I'm not surprised Engineers love joining frats, they seem to love sucking a lot of dick to get their way up the corporate ladder.

>>53980702
And by sucking dick, I mean it literally.

>>53979726
>What are you studying anyway?
Economics
>Also I have ~$25k saved up for school and some more soon. I-is that good?
It should be sufficient assuming you can organize your finances
>What do
I was ineligible for OSAP rght out the gate so I'm afraid I can't help you, friend.

>>53980171
Wearing letters on your shirt isn't free pussy

>>53980058
Frats are the last North American institution that advocate masculine virtue and traditional ethics. They're almost reactionary.

>>53980455
I'm not in engineering you salty faggot

>>53980702
please stop lad, you're embarassing your fellow flag carriers.

>>53980816
>Frats are the last North American institution that advocate masculine virtue and traditional ethics. They're almost reactionary.
>almost reactionary
Worshipping niggers, is not by any means reactionary. Actually it's blue pilled as fuck

>>53980980
>Worshipping niggers, is not by any means reactionary. Actually it's blue pilled as fuck

what, this doesnt make any sense, frats and sororities have been getting in trouble recently for having racist themed parties

>>53980980
>Worshipping niggers
What the fuck are you talking about? Most decent frats were established in the 19th Century by puritanical school boys, and we they have a HEAVY emphasis on maintenance of tradition. Playing rap music at our parties isn't "nigger worship", whatever the fuck that means.

>>53980816
>Frats are the last North American institution that advocate masculine virtue and traditional ethics. They're almost reactionary.

They represent masculinity in the most degenerate way possible, and I'd hardly call their ethics traditional.

What we need is a sort of Tatenokai styled student movement.

>>53981185
Nice dogma faggot

> frats and sororities have been getting in trouble recently for having racist themed parties
By SJWs, for SJW standards of racism, you dumb fuck. Most fratsboys pray to Lord Yeezy and King A$AP Rocky while watching the NBA and talking about their favorite nigger athlete, while their sorority FWB is getting a train ran on her by Tyrone and his three nigger football player friends.

>>53981514
This, according to Canachinks, is "the true meaning of white masculinity"

>>53981514
this shit has been happening since the 90s bro, let it go
>>>/pol/

Frat culture is synonymous with cuck culture.

>>53981514
>"we need to fully exclude blacks from society, nobody should have contact with anything they associate themselves with"

>"UGH FUCKING NIGGERS WHY ARE THEY SO SHITTY WE TREAT THEM THE EXACT SAME"

>>53981671
>>53981761
Prime example of your average fratbro
Don't you see how masculine he is?
He's just seething with "19th Century puritanism" and "maintenance of tradition".
Damn...

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>>53981810
>Prime example of your average fratbro
>Don't you see how masculine he is?
>He's just seething with "19th Century puritanism" and "maintenance of tradition".

>>53975158
>everyone has sex and drinks in college
FUCKING NORMIE

GET THE F U C K OUT OF MY BOARD

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53981936
Hey, what's wrong with drinking?

>>53982139
Normies do it.

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>>53981761
>>53981671
see
>>53981689

>>53981339
Sorry that I don't see much in clubs that exist to glorify senseless hedonism and macho vanity.

Aren't I a terrible person for wanting an organization that expresses healthy, masculine values and works to defend positive traditions.

>fratbros
So pretty much people too stupid and too poor to get an invitation to the freemasons?

>inb4 some frattard tries to tell me the freemasons don't exist.

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>>53982242
Whatever you say, Mister Straight-Edge.

>>53982342
>So pretty much people too stupid and too poor to get an invitation to the freemasons?

confirmed for not knowing shit, all you need is to know one you dumb fuck, the Mason's are really not that exclusive

>>53982242
Normies also breathe air you twonk

>>53982414
And yet you're not in the masons. poor guy ;_; I guess maybe you shouldn't have been such retard, fratbro

>>53982256
We're epicureans, not hedonists you pseudo-intellectual faggot

>>53975158
>everyone has sex and drinks in college

All dorms ban alcohol and drug use and kick you out if you're caught...

How do normies get away with it? Is the secret to having sex in college to just hang out near colleges with an expensive car, but not actually attend classes?

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>>53982477
>he thinks im a fratbro

>>53982514
>Banning sex and alcohol in dorms

Haha oh wow America

>frats
Oh man this brings be back, true story here guys.

>Be Engineer doing calcIII homework in my history lecture
>sitting next to typical salmon short wearing frat.
>one day dude looks at my homework and goes, "dude why are you writing down the names of the frats? You taking some kind of Greek class?"
>confused as fuck at what he's saying
>he just stares at me looking pretty angry
>realize what he thought I was doing and told him it's math
>he says "woah, they use greek letters in math?"
>"yeah"
I've met some smart fratboys, but holy shit this one takes the cake.

>>53982756
Now that's some good comedy

>>53982733
No, only for kids younger than 21 (which is the majority).
But my english roommate had no clue how strict we were and got in trouble by some cunt RA for having an open drink in the hallway.
He even explained to her that he had no clue that was a rule, and that it was normal in British Universities, but she just snapped at him and made him go to the bathroom and dump like $30 of liquor down the drain.

>>53982486
>epicureans
Epicurus warned against overindulgence, which is something Greek life proudly embodies. Drinking until you vomit on a weekly basis truly is the epitome of sensible, restrained pleasure-seeking.

>>53976964
guess they are only in big cities' unis?

> tfw ein Auländerstudent

>>53980209
Same here. But I went to a Christian college and the demographics of who rushed was different because of it

why is america so shit, bros?

is it because most of the chaff of europe went there because they couldn't handle things over here?

>>53968665
While I wasn't ever in a frat I have learned a bit about it. I thought it would be just a bunch of douchebags circlejerking over chicks and getting shitfaced, while there are those parts to it in some frats it's not all of them and there is a bit more too it as some organize and run charity events. There are some legitimately nice people to meet though integrating into their group without being a member of the frat is difficult and is even more difficult if you don't intend on joining, there are those pricks who think of it as some exclusive club and try to keep the outsiders out. (Sounds familiar). Just network a little bit and you can meet some great people, have some great parties and you won't have to deal with the work of setting up events and shit.

>>53982889
We've got bitchy RAs but they don't care about drinking in the hallway
>>53982899
Can't get into this right now, in a lecture. You're correct and incorrect at the same time

There's actually three types of fraternities in the US.
1) broternities, these are the fraternities that only require a fee to join, usually don't have any benefits unless it's at an Ivy league

2) Academic Fraternities, these are fraternities that revolve around merit and intellectual circle jerks, this is where you go for connections in academia

3) exclusively academic fraternities (freemasons Illuminate type shit), these are academic fraternities that require a sponsor. Pretty much the ultimate academic circle jerk, but pretty much guarantees you a job anywhere and in almost any field

>>53983104
yes

Please save us finland

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>>53983126
>some organize and run charity events

Oh, I guess sucking a dick to join is worth it then, bro fäm dude.

>>53983194
Too dichotomous

>>53983270
I'm not a member of one so I don't know if hazing is still a part of joining them. I've heard that some freshmen in them just get really shitfaced when they joined, I'm sure there is some fucked up shit going down in some frats.

>>53983277
>dichotomous
there's three.

>>53983233
giv qts and I will consider

Not a frat member, but hear a lot of stories from people I know who are in frats. A lot of fucked up things go on in frats in my area.
Like massive hazing events and massive rape incidents.
There's some frats that aren't that bad, but some of them seem to attract the biggest entitled scumbags.

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>>53983384
The truth: the shittier the frat, the more sketchy shit they do, which leads to increasingly humiliating initiations so actives have dirt on new members. So if a new member doesn't like that an older member date rapes a girl, that old member can prevent him from going to the police by threatening to release a video of that new member doing the elephant walk.

>>53983145
>You're correct and incorrect at the same time
I'd be willing to admit that. My knowledge of Epicurus is only second-hand.

But that is irrelevant to my line of thought. What I want is a somewhat stoic or ascetic organization.
>>53983194
My school has a service fraternity. They were pretty nice.

>>53983426
Don't take the term so literally. The lines are blurred between all three.

>>53983618
>elephant walk
What's that?

>>53983618
That's pretty bad. It's embarrassing these people go to University.

I can't even count on 2 hands the amount of times the frats got in trouble for date rape at parties around here.
I didn't join a frat because I don't want to be associated with these type of people.
Not like it really matters anymore, since I already have a job lined up after graduation.

>>53983758
Google it.
>>53983787
Yeah. If you want to generalize, the more old and widespread a frat is, the more reputable. It's the shitty new local frats that really stain the reputation of the greek system.

>>53979766
Why not Omega Booga Booga?

>>53983104
>why is america so shit, bros?

Every country has it's problems. Here is no different. Our news is shit and our government sucks the dicks of businesses while shitting all over our citizens, not to mention our infrastructure of our buildings and bridges is in a terrible state of disrepair. The normal American person likes to bitch about problems and do nothing at all to fix them, unless that problem is mental in which case mental illnesses still have a stigma attached to them. I shouldn't have answered your question so seriously but I'm bored.

>>53983618
Yeah I can see that happening, It's all about finding the right people.

>>53983758
A bunch of guys walk around in a circle while grabbing the dick of the guy in front of them.

>>53984411
Why would anyone fucking do that
Why would anyone want to be a part of a sekkrit club that forces them to do this shit
What is wrong with people

>>53979187
To be fair, those positions are where the actual money is. High skilled jobs might assure you a middle or even upper-middle class life, but generally they won't take you much further.

>>53984596
As a Jew, who went to an Ivy League university, I have to disagree with you.
My executive position was awarded to me through my family, not some cult for faggots.

>>53984583
The sekkrit club ends up getting a bunch of messed up people to befriend just as messed up individuals. It's a pretty fucked up cycle that ensures that the shitty people end up staying shitty, any normal person would have backed out way before they ended up with another dudes dick in their hand.

>>53984583
Hazing like that is not as widespread as you would think. I was in a fraternity and never did anything remotely like this.

I did get blindfolded and dropped off with another pledge in a cornfield outside of town and had to walk back, but that was a lot of fun

So do women have to do lesbian shit to join the clubs too?

>>53968665
ZOMG I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU AMERILARDS DO THINGSS LOL AMIRITE GUYS????????????????#@q5 wefrcwg3

>>53985032
Classic

>>53985067
I'm sure some of them do.

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>>53968665
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Man I wish I was American... For fucks sake why is life so unfair? I like American culture, I loved American pie movies and Blue Mountain State. I like basketball and american football. I like American food and I'm honestly more interested in American politics than Danish politics. Why was I born as a Dane? I feel American and want to be an American citizen ;_;

>>53968665
Yeah. Fraternities(for men) and sororities(for girls)
They do seem kinda cultish but most of them are pretty harmless.
The worst that happens is usually the seniors will force the freshman to drink beyond their limit and they get food poisoning.
Schools try to cut down on more dangerous hazing, like being pelted by socks that has soap bars in them

>>53974465
Frats and sorties count for less than 1% of the entire student body

>>53985268
Come to America as an exchange student, women here love people from other countries, it's a huge bonus if you have an accent. If you like American football, people in a state like Wisconsin who are huge fans of the sport would love the shit out of you.

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>>53985268
>this cuck

>>53985338
Depends on the university. I study at a particular university in Oklahoma where it is well above a quarter of the student population. We have some secret handshakes and little questions to test members if they are in the group. For example, you ask if someone knows Bob you must answer specifically and have a preplanned memorized conversation.

It is a good way to get laid and get drugs. If I seriously tried I could get laid with a different girl every weekend, but I am too lazy/have too much school work.

>>53985397
>women here love people from other countries
Yeah, I can see how that would play out
>Aww you're so cute, where are you from?
>Poland
>Hahaha Poland? Is that the shithole with bears on the streets?
>N-no... I said H-holland.

>>53985589
Just say you are from Europe dude. When you say Poland, we think of the North Pole.

>>53982942
Only at older universities. They're pretty much just designated drinking clubs filled with conservatives though. Sometimes they beat up each other with swords. (at least that's the stereotypical picture)

>>53985589
I guarantee those kinds of dumb sluts wouldn't know anything about Poland at all. Just be white and have an accent and they'll believe you're from anywhere foreign.

>>53985659
Poland is significant enough for most of us to recognize it. It's not like he's from something like Belarus, Estonia, or Slovenia.

>>53985678
I've seen them around. They usually have some sort of German flag hanging, either the Kaiserreich or the current German flag.

>>53985743
Not really. Maybe if they know European history, but sorority girls won't.

>>53985397
It's too late for me... Just got my apartment in Copenhagen after 2 years of waiting + I have studied here for 2 years now ;_; I have too much to lose at this point. Hopefully I will be reborn as an American in my next life, or I can live my life through my sons and send them to an American university when they are old enough

>>53985419
I wouldn't even step my foot in your prostitute creating country. Shoo shoo gipsy and tell your mother to give my money back, her BJ sucks

>>53985743
>us
>people on /int/
>same as normies
The average American knows absolutely nothing about Poland. Nothing.

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>>53974184
Reminds me of a funny story
My dad's friend dropped off his daughter to college and saw one of these frat houses with that kind of sign
He grabbed his shotgun out of his truck, walked up to the kids and said if he found out any of them fucked his daughter, he'd come looking.

>>53985822
You can always visit I guess.

>>53985589
I wouldn't see it going down like that, Americans don't really think of stereotypes of European countries. Instead you would probably get asked by girls to speak some Polish or to try to speak in an American accent. Don't indulge them too much or you'll end up as the dog doing tricks for them rather than as a man they might be interested in.

>>53985822
Nah man, it's never too late, there is always a way to do something if you talk to the right people.

>>53981073
It really doesn't make any sense. These are people who get off on being irreverent. Either to their parents/culture or other groups.

>>53985822
Trade places with me. It's cold here and still majority white. Gib apartment in Kjobenhavn.

If you aren't in a fraternity sorority girls won't fuck you. If you are interational/exchange student you aren't getting into a fraternity. Don't get these international Europeans' hopes up.

>>53985826
The town I grew up in a significant amount of Polish diaspora, so I guess I was misled.

>>53975281
i agree with you're agreement. I want saunas.

>>53982514
""""""banned"""""

Because nobody in America does drugs or pays for sex, right?

>>53985976
Not necessarily, if you have a good name with the frat guys you don't have to be a part of them to get with a sorority girl. However if one girl in the sorority says you're a creep or some shit you can be sure that nobody in the sorority shes in is going to fuck you.

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>>53985589
LMAOOOOoooO. They will m8, we even used to make fun of the Polacks at my highschool.

>>53985994
Most American towns are familar with poverty, so in a way you could say that most Americans know about Poland.

>>53982889
Sounds like a dumb bitch power-tripping.

Glad I went to a military college, I don't think I could have handled some art major RA trying to discipline me.

>>53986106
Yuros shouldn't be going after sorority hoes anyway. The ones I've encountered have been like 1 step above prostitutes, and probably have more diseases.

>>53982514
Some dorms have a 3 strike rule and even then there are exceptions. One of my friends was caught 3 times, each time he got an increasing fine, and after that the third time he had to go to a class that explained the dangers of underage drinking and promise that he would not drink in the dorm again or he would be kicked out. However in that class he just got to make more connections with people so he just made more friends to get shitfaced with. Funny how that works.

>>53986218
This. I only fuck GDIs these days.

>>53985760
Yeah, it's all a bit outdated and strange, especially the rituals. I've never met anyone who claimed to be a part of those fraternities, even though my university has several.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpP6YX8l5xg

>>53986220
How do you get caught with alcohol in a dorm 3 fucking times

My retarded friend got me caught once, I got fined $300 and that was bad enough

>>53986218
Eh, there are some nice girls there, it's just that it can get really cliquey and the women can be really fucking petty. Euro's wouldn't have it any harder than any other dude and might even have it easier than some other people since some groups want to have the "foreign guy" in their friend group.

>>53985936
Lol the place I'm living at (new apartment close to Copenhagen university) is filled with kebabs and crime. It's cheap and close to my uni so I don't complain, I just pray my bike won't get stolen

>>53986332
>$300 fine for drinking
holy shit

>>53986356
And you had to wait on a list for 2 years just for that one apartment? What the fuck, Danmark?

If your bike did get stolen, would the cops even do anything?

>>53986332
His parents were rich so he didn't give a shit about the fines, he paid over 1k for the fines in total I know that much. After the 3rd time instead of hosting the parties in his room he moved them to one of his new friends.

>>53986370
Yeah some colleges really want to discourage drinking on campus. I went to a college in Wisconsin where drinking is a huge part of the state and fines are even more expensive than those of colleges in other states.

why are people so fucking uptight in these threads?

burn the whole country because white college kids like partying?

Our college system is more fun than anyone elses but its expensive as fuck.

>>53986505
>If your bike did get stolen, would the cops even do anything?
Do you know how many bikes there are in Denmark? I hope that guy has a shitty bike.

>>53986537
I can't complain there, college parties and being with people your age all the time is pretty great.Though I absolutely hate how expensive it is here, and how textbook companies are in league with colleges to fuck over the students for even more cash. Scholarships can only cover so much.

ITT
>autist who didnt/couldnt join a frat because they are too autistic

>>53986524
>Yeah some colleges really want to discourage drinking on campus. I went to a college in Wisconsin where drinking is a huge part of the state and fines are even more expensive than those of colleges in other states.

Shit dude. In Canada you can get drunk in dorms when you're 18 if you have a 19 year old to buy you liquor and you don't get too loud/disturbing to other kids. I've drank with campus security when I offered one a beer.

>>53986676
I was legacy, and they really wanted me to join.

>>53986653
Can't you just pirate the books?

>>53986676
I'm just mad you assholes are trying to make us pay off your retarded debts. Not my fault you partied for 4 years and then couldn't get a real job.

I was in a frat for like 5 years and held multiple leadership positions. The partying aspect of it, at least at my school, was dumb as fuck.

>>53986747
Sometimes. Occasionally they make you buy some online program to do your homework.

>>53986697
Because of the higher drinking age and taboo factor here, it's pretty much guaranteed that students will start drinking way more than they can handle as soon as they go off to college. Many of those retards destroy dorm or university property, or die in their own vomit, leading to total prohibition and massive penalties in order to appease hand-wringing mothers.

I think fostering a culture of responsible drinking, like they do in Yurop, would be much better than what we have here now, but I doubt it'll ever change.

>>53986826
I'm starting my second semester in a couple of weeks and we all got the books for the semester by someone from the later semesters. Haven't spent a cent.

>>53986747
Not always, there's often a new book every year and the colleges require the students to buy the new book rather than have the previous edition. It's a pain in the ass since often the books are almost exactly the same with the only difference being that they rearranged some of the chapters so if you used an older edition you wouldn't be able to follow the class in order as easily.

>>53986826
I fucking hate this shit. Paying upwards of 50 dollars or more to just get a key to access a shitty site that I will be using for less than 6 months.

>>53986697
I was caught with some alcohol on me and the campus security had me pour it all out in front of them or they would write me up.

>>53986918
Yup, these kids are deemed old enough to enlist in the Military and take other human beings lives on the other side of the planet yet they are too immature to drink a beer.

>>53986918
Canada manages it pretty well, but freshman girls still can't handle it. During rush parties we have like three bros dedicated to walking super drunk girls back to their dorms if we feel like she can't make it herself or of we think she'll be taken advantage of (inb4 accusations of being white knights or rapists)

>>53986505
It's also filled with young hipster students l-like meh :'-/ It's really close to my university so a lot of people have signed up for those apartments. Had a friend who have waited just as long as me in a even shittier part of the city

>>53968665
I know a girl in ZTA, she always post pics on Facebook and she's easily the least attractive girl in her group.
I wonder if they haze her and give her shit for it

>>53987093
The idea of "rape culture" has been drilled into new college students heads here. When I was a freshman in my college here some jackoffs made a play for the new people that was intended for the male students that essentially told us "If you are a man you are potentially a rapist, don't rape people." It's annoying to be told of being a potential rapist in the first few weeks of getting on campus.

inb4 neckbeard but college feminist groups, at least from the ones I've experienced first hand, have been fucking awful.

>>53987368
It's a nightmare and it's incredibly insulting when they assume we would rape if they did not tell us not to. I don't need to be reminded not to steal kill or rape.

>>53987368
Before my freshman year I had to take this online safety course about drinking, stalking, rape, etc. One of the scenarios they presented was a frat bro trying to rape another frat bro.

Still scarred to this day

>>53978536
yeah, this. in the business world, it's not about what you know, it's about who you know.

>>53987368
Do you go to IUB? They did the same shit with us on orientation

>>53987368
i've been told that the following scenario is "coercion" and therefore "rape"

>hey let's have sex
>no
>please?
>ok fine

^that's rape according to them

>>53987747
Which is fucking weird. A lot of the time networking with others for career and business benefits just seem so fake and insincere.

>>53987798
Nah, I went to University of Wisconsin Eau Claire. Disturbing to know that so many colleges do this shit.

not in a frat myself but i party with fratbros regularly

some of the people in the frats are great and some are scumbags. it really just depends on if you're joining a well-established frat that doesnt let every tom dick and harry in

My uni is pretty good at this sort of thing for a large uni. They don't shit like label all guys potential rapists and when they do cover that it's obvious things like you can't consent while drunk and place responsibility equally on men and women.
Same thing with religion and race, you see equal criticisms of stereotyping any race, including whites; when it comes to religion it's actually pretty pro-christian with how they put up a Christmas tree and gave a Santa program, but then again I guess you argue that Christmas is pretty secular now.
UT Austin btw
Also concealed carry is allowed and the restrictions are rational, but rationality is expected when you have academics in charge instead of emotional teens and activist groups.

>>53987936
They remove all agency from girls

>>53988076
Replying to >>53987368 btw

>>53987936
>>53988094
You know that social pressure and unintended intimidation exist, right?
Goes for both guys and girls

>>53988018
I was in a pretty diverse fraternity which made it cool, we had guys all over the map. Potheads, classic fratbros, Jews, black people, absolute nerds, etc. Definitely the weird/drug frat but we all had a lot of fun together. I miss the days where at just about any time of day or night I could walk down the hallway and find someone to shotgun a beer or smoke some weed with.

and it depends on the school and the culture. I went to a small college and I never would have joined one at a large state school.

>>53987960
You're right, it is completely fake and insincere. The trick is bullshitting people well enough that they actually like you without coming across as insincere.

Nepotism really is ridiculous, being on good terms with one person in a company might land you the job over someone who's far more qualified. People going into business realize this, hence all the sucking up that happens during college, and the selfish mindset to treat friends as "connections" and as "assets" to "further your career."

>>53987936
Yup, people are really sensitive about anything sexual. Even being accused of sexual harassment is enough to get you in deep shit. A guy in my dorm in my sophomore year was kicked out after a gay guy in my dorm said he went into his shower stall while he was in it without his permission and started groping him. There was no evidence other than spoken testimony yet the guy was still banned from the dorms. He still attended the classes but had to live off campus until he changed schools, and even then the "harassment" was on his record.

>>53988076
That's good, a lot of Uni's seem to be pushing that women cannot be at fault any sexual scenario. Funnily enough this reminds me of when I was at a party and sat down with a friend to talk and some shitfaced landwhale sits next to me and grabs my crotch and tries to make out with me. He though it was the funniest shit but that was genuinely one of the most disturbing things I've experienced at a party and if I ever did the same to a woman I would have been expelled or labeled a rapist.

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>>53988370
so you can just fuck someone's life up in USA just by claiming he or she harassed you, without evidence except your testimony that smells of lies?

>>53988588
If you're a woman or deemed as part of a minority such as a gay man and it's been determined that you would have no reason to lie about the harassment then yes, your claim can fuck up somebodies life. If the college doesn't take the claim seriously the groups on campus may claim the college is "victim blaming" and supports sexual harassment. I know it sounds biased as fuck but that's just the conclusion I've seen from my experiences. I go to a community college now since it's cheaper and I don't have to deal with that horseshit.

>>53988863
that's just so fucked, why do people tolerate such injustice

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>>53985268
You know that if you post on 4chan it's very likely that those kind of people would have made fun of you for being a loser, virgin etc.

>>53976217
>25cm
>not 10 inches

likely story

>>53988979
If you speak out against it then worst case scenario you're labeled a rape apologist and your social life on campus is absolutely fucked.

I'm Australian, we [mostly] go to uni to study, get a degree and then hopefully a well paying job, *NOT* have a 4 year long fuck/booze-fest holiday from our parents and responsibilities with a bunch of strangers from all over the country.

>>53989466
>I hate fun

Engineering/Math major here, I have yet to meet a frat or a sorority girl in any of my classes. Makes me wonder where they all are.

>>53989466
Well yeah, I'm the same way and treated Uni as a job and most people will do the same, there's no harm in having some fun on the side but the main purpose is to get an education. There are some people in America that treat Uni as an extension of high school and just fuck around for 4 years. Then when they realize that they accumulated a shit ton of debt for no reason thats when they start regretting it.

You can't fuck around as much as you may think in American colleges, at least at the college I was at, if your GPA went under 2.0 for more than a year you would be put on academic probation, then if after another semester if it was still poor you would be suspended for a semester.

>>53989812
You sure you haven't met any? They usually have a bit of a group in classes and hang around each other. That's one benefit of the frats I guess, you won't be sitting alone if another person in your frat is in your class.

>>53989607
>I hate responsibility.

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>>53989607
>>I hate fun
"Mature aged" student here so my views may differ but even when I was at uni in my 20's it wasn't the case - more that we had our fun elsewhere.
>(You) - I don't take my studies seriously and am probably only just going to scrape by with a pass. If I really struggle and put in a mammoth effort at the very end...
>>53989813
>Then when they realize that they accumulated a shit ton of debt for no reason thats when they start regretting it.
Exactly - getting a HECS debt here is fucking easy, paying it off when you have you 1st "real" job (particularly when you also probably have other debts/responsibilties) is a real cunt.

>>53989901
Well, I might have seen some in my Gen ed 100 level classes.

>>53989959
You may not have any frats that emphasize your major or degree. I know there was a frat on my campus that focused on male students who were going into business so business classes always had a group of frat dudes together.

>>53989938
Yeah I'm almost done college.
I was a "dude lets just have fun" guy my first year of college, but then I started realizing that I didn't know shit about my major, and my Uni wasn't going to teach me the skills i needed to get a job, so i started getting a lot more serious about studying outside class.
I take Friday nights off, but I spend that time just relaxing in my room watching movies.
The rest of the week is reading and learning.

>>53990131
I also want to point out.
To the people going ">hurr no fun" to people who disapprove of partying.
You're probably in the wrong major if you can't find any fun in studying for your major or doing projects.
When I learn about math or do programming assignments I find it extremely exciting and satisfying after I'm finished.

>>53976297
Yeah and the frats have been in America since the 18th century

Hazing is actually fun desu

My hell week was the best worst time of my life


I wouldnt want to do it again, but im glad i did.


Also most frats established rules of "No Gay shit"

>>53989812
>>53989959
>le fratboys are dumb xD STEM so smart xD
There are plenty of frat members in STEM majors, and they do just as well as others in the class.
t. Non-frat Physics major

>>53968665
party frats/sororities are only really a thing at shit universities. the school I went to during my undergrad was just slightly above average and frats were shut down all the time when they were discovered to provide alcohol to minors. the school I transferred to for graduate school is extremely strict in what frats and sororities it allows. If it doesnt seem to fulfill any purpose or if its members grades are too low they get down.

>>53990560
>No Gay shit
I'm surprised they let you in.

>>53990567
>lying while being anonymous on the internet
Yeah okay bud.

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It's true. All of it. The Lilyprint clothes, the hyper conformity. They're real.

t. live right by the house in pic related

>6'4 220 lbs and told I'm attractive
>join bottom tier house since I'm an autist
>most guys are too pleb for me, but there are a few I can chill with
>don't get laid because I'm an autist and bottom tier
>regret not joining top tier meathead frat that recruits based off how big you are

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>>53990608
>party frats/sororities are only really a thing at shit universities

This is simply not true
In my experience the more prominent the university is the bigger the frat partys


Frats are honestly a great way to meet and make new friends. You also establish connections with wealthy Alumni.
You also get to stay in a massive house with ur best friends and basically have a huge party fund.

>>53990840
>Phi Kappa High
>first letter is Pi, a letter anyone not in Greeklife can recognize because math

You're a special kind of stupid.

>>53990886
im shit posting from my phone sorry if i fat finger the file name friend

Fraternities/Sororities are disgusting

>mfw I found out a lab partner was in one
>Literally it's just throwing parties, going to handegg games/apehoop and hazing (usually something demeaning or gay)
>300$ per semester for "friends"

>>53990840
>Phi
That's Pi you dumb fucking retard. How did you make it into university? Are you a affirmative action?

>>53990690
I'm not lying, engineering pleb
They do well in their classes because they study together and have resources like past exams and knowledge on what's coming up from other members who have taken the classes before

>>53990637
S A V A G E

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>>53990131
>>53990415
I'm doing MEd. I went back to study mainly out of boredumb - I'm a teacher, my kids are both finished or nearly finished primary school. I stopped teaching a year ago and focussed on my business - it's good, hard work but doesn't engage me very much mentally (handyman).
>tfw I did know some of the grillz who lived on campus when I was younger and none of them put out.
>Country grillz m8, you'd have more luck with their pet sheep!

>>53989938
Why are you namefagging as a Fremen one-scene-wonder?

>>53991073
>past exams
So they cheat? Great way proving that they're not drooling retards. You sure got me.

Also I'm a Math major too, you retarded Physics retard.
Oh and, Good luck finding a Job after graduation.

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>>53991166
Old usenet sig - easier to find threads/posts on archives

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>>53990840
must just be my experience. I grew up in georgia and did my undergrad at georgia tech where the greek party scene was basically nonexistent while University of Georgia and Georgia southern had huge party scenes (while being below average schools). I did an REU at Dartmouth and am currently attending grad school at UNC Chapel Hill and again there was nothing resembling the college movie party scene

Heh isn't it weird that almost half the people in this thread is filled with fraternity kids on a friday night?
What happened, I thought you were suppose to be partying and fucking chicks. Are fraternities now filled with autists or something? Things sure have changed

>inb4 d-d-dude I'm getting read for a party!
Sure you are

>>53991277
>he reareads his own posts for fun

Australian "life"

>>53990840
>In my experience the more prominent the university is the bigger the frat party
This is complete bullshit it's hilarious.
one) most prominent universities are filled with Asians and indians who study 24/7 and wouldn't even dare joining a frat
two) Jews only join Jewish frats, and those are mostly for academics
three) I go to UPenn and the frats here are the laughing stock of the entire school

What happens if I go as exchange student to American university?

>>53985822
Hey man lets go to america together

Hvor i kbh bor du

>>53991461
Unless you're British, French, or Irish, people are just going to mistake you as a Slav or a Mexican

>>53991461
I like to talk to them because I find them interesting
Too bad my college doesn't get that many