Aryans were slaves for finns :DDD

But since masters usually have sex with slaves doesn't that mean we are Aryans?

agreed 2bh

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>>53960559
In any case it is interesting that the self-designation "Aryan" became the word for slave. Probably captured Indo-Iranians that were whose genesis was just south of the Finno-Ugric master race.

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>>53960949
Could that be why we have so many blondes even places outside swedish influence

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>>53961029
The Finno-Ugric blonde is more blonde than the Scandis. Platinum blonde.

>>53960559
I don't think Europeans ever called themselves "aryan".

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>>53961081

>>53961081
Scythians did.

>>53961094
Only Persians and Northern Indians call themselves aryan.

>>53961072

Germanic people aren't the same people as the ones in the past. They mixed with Romans and Celts.

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>>53961081
>>53961124
For some reason I always think about germans when I hear the word "aryan"
What could it be?

>>53961158
He was indiaboo
>northern indians, who are superior to souterners, call themselves arayan
>takes swastika, budhist symbol of luck, and makes it a symbol of his country

I think he knew that India is going to be a super power in 2050

>>53961248

>2016
>still no white servants in India

They aren't on track

>>53961153
True dat. But then again we have Udmurts who are the most red-haired people in the world.

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>>53961248
>I think he knew that India is going to be a super power in 2050

oh boy

>>53961248
>takes swastika, buddhist symbol of luck, and makes it a symbol of his country

It's also Finnish symbol of luck. Orja/Aryan, coincidence? I think not.

>>53961281
This is what I was thinking about too

What if Finnic people lived with persian peoples, left north through Caucasus and settled to Volga, where the "modern" finnic language and culture was developed

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>>53961538
ur theory is shit, bro.
t. volga finn

>>53961538

It is more likely that Persian people lived further north and received trainings and instructions from Ancient Finns.

>>53961616

Moksha or Erza?

>>53961616
Eyyy ukhnem lmao :DDD

I got the theory just from the top of my head :--)
What ethnicity do you represent?

>>53961538
What if Finnic people came from Atlantis and prior to that they were ayy lmaos?

>>53961814
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyM7haNw0sA

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>>53961740
>Erzya
this one.

>>53961781
>>53961814
pls somebody do a ayy lmao with the volga boatmen in the background :D

"Eyyy ukhnem lmao

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>>53961930
>Finland: Begins
nice video, m8 :D

>>53961962

Moksha are better

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>>53961962
Or did you mean... MORDVIN

>>53961814
Finland = Fin Land.
Land of fins.
Fishes have fins.
Fishes live in water.
Atlantis sunk in water.
Finland = Atlantis

>>53962062
CONFIRMED

>>53962028
well. ok.
>>53962038
>mordvin
not exist ethnically, but we used it pretty often cause of
>muh assimilation n shit
it's hard to identify who r u sometimes.

>>53962062
at last i truly see

>>53961930
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_7yU-L4Nck

>>53962062
CANT WAKE UP


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsBC-vF0ZeU

>>53962193
i cri everytime

>>53962146
Why is it that we never see other Volga finns, but always mokshas and erzyas?

Also, I heard it's spelled "ersä", is this true?

>>53962851
Isn't there only the Mari people? They still pagan n shiet.

>>53962851
>Why is it that we never see other Volga finns, but always mokshas and erzyas?
there's cheremisy and burtasy too. Other ones is more altaic, not volga. Why u don't hear about them? Dunno, desu. Probably, they're minority or just mixed up with
>moksha
>erzya
and call me themself differently now.
>Also, I heard it's spelled "ersä", is this true?
Not sure. I spell it like "erzya".

>>53960559
reality check:

>"In wonderful savageness live the nation of the Fenni, and in beastly poverty, destitute of arms, of horses, and of homes; their food, the common herbs; their apparel, skins; their bed, the earth; their only hope in their arrows, which for want of iron they point with bones. Their common support they have from the chase, women as well as men; for with these the former wander up and down, and crave a portion of the prey. Nor other shelter have they even for their babes, against the violence of tempests and ravening beasts, than to cover them with the branches of trees twisted together; this a reception for the old men, and hither resort the young. Such a condition they judge more happy than the painful occupation of cultivating the ground, than the labour of rearing houses, than the agitations of hope and fear attending the defense of their own property or the seizing that of others. Secure against the designs of men, secure against the malignity of the Gods, they have accomplished a thing of infinite difficulty; that to them nothing remains even to be wished."

>Finnish Savagery Described by Tacitus (2nd century AD)

>>53963052
The "ya" is pronounced like in blyad, right?

>>53963115
Da :3

>>53963103
Those were Sami people.

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>>53963103

>>53961081
Arjan is still a popular name in the Netherlands.

>>53963103
Yeah, but the romans saw what was left of the mighty Finnish Empire, which reigned over the whole of europe

Somebody post the pic, you know what im talking about

>>53963198
>Mid-Eastern immigrants

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>>53963158
no, that's just what Finnics say trying to save face.

Sami were described as Oxiones and Herulli in Tacitus's work. His Fenni were Finns allright.

Also,, pic related is from Warnefried Paul's work on the Longobardi 500 years later. Looks like not a lot had changed in half a millenium.

>Proof of Finnic[sic] Superiority?
Look at the first section brother

>>53963270
no

>>53963417
He's very much describing sami and lapland in general
Finnish people were southern in Häme, Savo and Karelia. Pohjanmaa and Uusimaa were sweidified early on.

>>53963417

Finland was a depopulated wasteland around 0 AD and Finnish ancestors were living in Karelia, Estonia and Germanic countries. Even Saami themselves had only recently arrived to Finland from some remote part of Northern Russia. You can't just make up a fantasy that Finns or anyone permanently lived in Finland at the same since genetics and archaeological evidence debunks it.

>>53960559
So the Russian word rab (=slave) derives from Finnish people, the same way that the common slavic term word pidoras derives from pindos (american).
Proof of Russian superiority? Or of finnic inferiority complex? Just another memetastic fact that has no importance nowadays?
Discuss

>>53963461
I made it like that so it would make a circle, realistically slavs biggest exports would've been the tatars
about half a dozen finns were sold yearly at the black sea slave market, not much really

>>53963721
It derives from the word "orphan"

>>53963594
>>53963609
FIDF pls
Tacitus lived in the 2nd century, Warnefried in the 7nd century. Both describe the same tribe called Fenni or "jumping Finns" by their (germanic) neighbours.

Also Saami = Oxiones ("reindeer people") in Tacitus, living further away from Fenni

>>53960559
But Germanics never referred to themselves as Aryan. It's use is restricted to Indo-Iranian linguistic family.

>>53963786

Nothing to do with Finns and btw reindeer herding didn't arrive in Northern Europe until the 15th century.

Hindi word "hagna" to poop.
English word "hug"
Coincidence? I think not.

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>>53963930
Fenni and "juming Finns" are obviously not related in any way to Finns, you are right.

Reindeers were living there. A nomad can also chase and kill a wandering reindeer.

But why do I bother reading up on classic and early medieval historians when I can consult /int/ Finns instead?

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> believing hitler propaganda
here some aryans 4 u

>>53964150
>"Upon the Suiones, border the people Sitones; and, agreeing with them in all other things, differ from them in one, that here the sovereignty is exercised by a woman. So notoriously do they degenerate not only from a state of liberty, but even below a state of bondage."

>>53964150

>classic and early medieval historians

What did they say about ancestral Finns in Estonia and Karelia? I think nothing. I guess the Budini might be the closest thing to a mention if they are correctly identified but they would have been southern Finnics ancestral to Udmurts.

>>53964282
They shared the same language, must be both Swedish tribes.

>>53964303
>ancestral Finns in Estonia and Karelia

Those were the Fenni.

Budini was mentioned I think by Strabo. OR maybe Pliny, anyway before the late classical author like Tacitus (who really presented an abridged version of the lost volumes of Titus Livius). And yes, the Budini were (proto-)Udmurts, their red hair being noted.

There was also mentioned a bunch of halfnomadic savages dressing up as wolves nearby. Could be proto-Slavic or Finno-Ugric. The Neuroi I believe they were called.

>>53964798

Any proof of Fenni living in the vicinity of what is now St. Petersburg?

>>53963721
You took a wrong turn two phrases ago

Weren't Finns sold as slave to like, Persians or something?

Mikael Hakim is a realistic book right?

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>>53960559
This is all fine and dandy, BUT

Finns didn't have any slaves. We might have just called aryans slaves, because...

Finns were taken as slaves even more so than fucking negroes from Africa when compared to overall population numbers.

So yeah.
No.

hahaaa ebin
shit thread

>>53965123
Finns as you know them today didn't exist back then.

Different tribes sure as hell had slaves and took them during raids on other tribes. Even Kalevala has slavery in it, most notable being Kullervo and the maid who gives birth to him.

>Finns were taken as slaves even more so than fucking negroes from Africa when compared to overall population numbers.
That's true though. Where the fuck are our reparations?

>>53965123
>>53965343

We have a lot of mitochondrial DNA(inherited from mothers) which is British origin. It seems likely that vikings sold us Brits and Irish as slaves. They probably didn't cost much since Brits look ugly as shit.

>>53965123
That's a real nice proxy, Dmitri

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>>53965471
A hole is a hole. Might be there were some English roses in the bunch.

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>>53965123
>Finns were taken as slaves even more so than fucking negroes from Africa when compared to overall population numbers.


>Doubt

>Venäläiset ryöstivät suomalaisia orjiksi itselleen ja kaupattavaksi läpi keskiajan, vielä 1700-luvun isovihankin aikana arviolta 20 000 – 30 000. Heitä käytettiin peltotöissä ja palvelijoina ja myytiin muslimeille. Lapsista ja vaaleista naisista saattoi saada hyvän hinnan, poikia kastroitiin eunukeiksi. Venäjällä orjuus kiellettiin vuonna 1725 ja maaorjuus vuonna 1863. [25]

>Fight under a Swedish banner against the Russian menace
>Swedish leadership fucks things up and starts losing
>Swedes retreat and leave the Finnish peasantry to their fate
Never trust a Swede. Worse than the Jews.

hold up senpai i can verify that we wuz kangz and shieet
>we burned down swedish capital (with curonians)
>we killed russian kangz n vikingz atleast 1000 of them in one battle in 1060
>we killed swedish kang called ingvar
>in 1200 we wuz backstabbed by Danish russians livonians swedish latgalians and germans

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>>53965343
>Finns as you know them today didn't exist back then.

>>53965536
What? Suck a dick, Pablov

>>53965728
>>Doubt
http://yle.fi/aihe/artikkeli/2015/12/09/pimea-historia-viimeisella-rannalla
Suck it, you fuck.

350 000 ihmistä.
>Tärkein ryöstösaalis oli työkykyinen ihminen. Venäjälle vietiin orjiksi yli 20 000 suomalaista, joista puolet oli lapsia. Suomesta vietiin väkilukuun suhteutettuna orjia enemmän kuin Afrikasta. Hailuodonkin kylänraitti hiljeni.
n. 300 000 jäljellä orjien ja murhattujen jälkeen.

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>>53961538

Exactly this happened though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andronovo_culture

>>53963103

Finns lived like stone aga savages during a time there is extensive archaelogical record of bronze and iron artifacts?

Fuck science, this Roman dude who never even visited north of the Alps sure knows better.

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>>53963103

Here's a couple of axe heads from Finland during the period Tacitus was alive.

They look remarkably like bronze but I guess they are bone, Tacitus knew better.

>>53969321
The Fenni are not Finns. They're clearly some nomadic proto-Samis or Proto-Ugrians.

>>53969321

Google image search says they are bronze age so much earlier than Tacitus.

>>53969519

Yeah I realized that after posting but whatever, still supports my point.