>movie about a white man who goes to Japan, kills a samurai

>>53947241
Well first thing is this doesn't have enough context. Are they crying from being egrossed in the movie, or because they hated what they were seeing so much it brought tears out? And second, is that how that movie really fucking goes? Jesus christ.

So the message of this movie was that Japan needed to modernize it's military but at the same time hold on to it's Samurai warrior spirit? How did that work out?

>>53947241
Probably more to do with the traditionalist Japanese samurai culture wanking. All sad that swordsmanship and elegance and horses get got by gatling guns. Like in Injun movies where you're supposed to feel bad that all the in tune with nature culture is dying to gunfire or something.

The cuck story is laughable but maybe Tom Cruise is so popular that they can't even see him as "some white guy", its just Tom Cruise.

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>>53947396
>How did that work out?

Really good music score desu.

>>53947241
Not if it's Will Smith.

>>53947241
i'd cry too if i had to see a movie with this premise

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Why do you hate that movie?

>>53947241
You do know the film is more or less based on the life of a french officer during the Meiji restoration, right? He helped some samurais on the Republic of Ezo.

>>53947396
>How did that work out?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzHIQVuTLC4

>>53947241
Reminder that Hollywood replaced French soldiers with Americans.

>>53947396
>How did that work out?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAJkWu5mW-8

>>53947348
This、 wtf is the context

>>53947348
>And second, is that how that movie really fucking goes?

Basically, Cruise plays an alcoholic war vet haunted by the memories of the times he took part in the massacre of injun women and children who gets hired to go help train Japan's army in the use of modern weapons and tactics, but the army gets sent to deal with a samurai rebellion before it has had sufficient training. They get btfo by the samurai and Cruise gets taken prisoner and taken to their village where he is denied access to alcohol and sobers up. The head samurai initially questions him to gain information but eventually they become friends and Cruise starts learning learning to use traditional samurai combat from the local samurai and even helps defend the village when it gets attacked by assassins sent to kill their leader. At the same time, he also starts getting closer with the wife and kids of one of the samurai he killed in the battle. He gets set free after the winter ends but goes back to rejoin the samurai and help them fight the army. They get btfo and literally everyone except Cruise dies. The movie ends with him making an appeal to the emperor, prompting the emperor to reject a treaty with the American delegation and fire corrupt bureaucrats, and then Cruise goes back to the samurai village and most likely starts banging the wife of the dead samurai.

>>53947713
Werent the french on the side of the Shogunate and got BTFO?

The last Samurai was the guy leading the imperial troops who later when the war was won sorta went rogue with the rest of his samurai because they werent ready to give up their right to wear the swords unlike many other traditions.
And the imperials were backed by burgers/brits

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The Imperial Japanese Army wasn't properly following real Bushido stop comparing the two, if Samurai were still around they wouldn't have been so shit at war as the IJA as they're supposed to train all their lives in the arts of warfare so they'd probably keep up to date, not have autistic generals and tactics and spend most of their time raping the shit out of the gooks and chinks

>>53947836
>most likely starts banging the wife of the dead samurai.

This is the part that I'm not understanding. If y'all are just playin I get it, and the rest was already believable.

>>53947908
Doesnt matter you autist, there were real samurais fighting for the Emperor against the Shogunate that followed the real rules.
They just fought along the other troops aswell.
The IJA had no remorse using loads of peasants with modern guns and cannons and they were pro progress and industrialisation unlike the Shogunate.

>>53947241
>America obliterates Japan's military and fucks all their women
sounds about right

>>53947908

inb4 comparisons of "not real Islam" when those shitskins have been doing the same shit for hundreds of years.

In the 1920's and 1930's to deal with economical problems the Japanese government restored it's own heavily modified version of Bushido and Shintoism to help fuel Imperialist, Militarism and Expansionism. They didn't really keep the Samurai way, most of the army was "peasant" stock using outdated equipment and tactics, and aside from playing catchup in the late 1800's, during the Sengoku Jidai at least, the Samurai were quite interested in being as technologically advanced as possible. Look at the invasion of Korea and the extensive use of firearms.

>>53947241
They were crying tears of joy that their precious heritage was preserved. Shame that wouldn't happen in European countries.

>>53948081
If we would preserve our heritage japs wouldnt exist anymore.

Sounds good actually.

>>53947908
>implying nips aren't just pure shit at war

>>53947241
>>white man then becomes sole survivor of a battle where all the other samurai die, then goes back to the village to fuck all their widows
Is this a porno?

>>53948031

Yea, and they were traitors to the Shogunate. Maybe if they had beaten the Emperor they wouldn't have fucked up everything so badly and just minded their own business. The Shogunate was industrializing and modernizing quite well before the Emperor usurped power. Samurai way doesn't necessarily imply a lack of adaptation or evolution, but it probably implies an absence of cruelty to prisoners and civllians, etc.

Back before the fake neo-Bushido in the 1930's, look how kind they were Russian prisoners during their war with them, most likely because a fuckton of the generals in command of the IJA in 1905 used to be Samurai or at least the sons of Samurai.

>>53947241
>and allowed to fuck dead samurai's widow
did you even watch the movie

>>53948232
kissing = doing the sexuals because it's kindergarten

>>53948275
kissing's how you make babies though.

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>>53947908
Bruuuuh. Samurai literally means "to serve". They were glorified body guards.

>>53947908
>real bushido

>>53948331
Yea, but they were usually raised since birth, a dedicated warrior caste, not just some jerk from the countryside.

Outnumbered by Marines? Better not dig in like the one time they did at Iwo Jima, lets have a suicidal banzai charge so we can all play pretend-Samurai!

>>53948427
There's a quote from some samurai at the end of the era who said, "The way of Bushido is choosing death over life whenever possible". It kinda does seem like something a classic samurai would do.

>>53948427
>Tsujigiri (辻斬り or 辻斬 tsuji-giri, literally 'crossroads killing') is a Japanese term for a practice when a samurai, after receiving a new katana or developing a new fighting style or weapon, tests its effectiveness by attacking a human opponent, usually a random defenseless passer-by, in many cases during nighttime.
totally not complete murderhobos

>>53948524
>usually a random defenseless passer-by, in many cases during nighttime.
Islamic tier

>>53947396
They laughed when Mishima told them that, yet they cry when hearing it today.

I really fell bad for what we did to that nation.

>>53948524
>passerby
>it's common knowledge they only did it to convicts

True, they were allowed to execute dirty peasants who didn't know their place and insulted them, but attacking people out of random would have resulted in the Samurai class being overthrown hundreds of years before it actually was.

>>53949005

I don't think you know what common knowledge means

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>>53949117
Common knowledge for cringy idiots like myself that have nothing better to do than take an interest in obscure periods of history from other countries ;_;

>>53947241
the last cuckurai