FUCK NATO

what does NATO have to do with refugees, isn't it more of a EU problem

>>53932230
Nato has nothing to do with refugees. Our and even the German secret service even warns against refugees.

>>53932230

NATO countries created the refugees. Finns aren't dumb.

Why tho? There are literally no downsides to joining NATO for Finland. America will pay for your defences, so FInland can cut defence budget and use that money for something else and you will never be afraid of evil Russians ever again. Why are finns against it?

>>53932536
>NATO countries created the refugees.

So ISIS aren't at fault at all then m8?

>>53932555
>America will pay for your defences

>this is what Russia actually believes

NO

>>53932536
Natoon vain siitä syystä, että USA>Venäjä.

>>53932603
I think more refugees are there cause of the Assad/Rebel government split than ISIS.

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>>53932603
>So ISIS aren't at fault at all then m8?

Pic related

>>53932603
NATO interventions created ISIS
ISIS created refugees
So NATO created refugees

>>53932668

Protip: 90% of refugees come from Iraq, not Syria.

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>>53932649

t. Aisankannattaja

>>53932045
Btw France just joined NATO completely which mean we will have US base. They did it Under secret without talking to us Frenchs, traitors president made it happens.
We were the last western country not bitch of NATO.

>>53932924
what's the matter Bilel, are you worried american soldiers will stop your next terror attack?

>>53932230
NATO destroys countries, which creates a refugee storm to Europe

Good idea, blame NATO instead of the she fuhrer importing millions of unscreened terrorists into the EU.

>>53932712
>NATO interventions created ISIS
Which?

>>53932649
retardi :D

http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160106/1032757937/washington-nato-ussr-collapse.html

>>53935867
Supporting "moderate" rebels in Syria, creating a power gap in Iraq, Iran coup in the 70's, financing Saudi wahhabism etc.

FINLAND STRONG

>>53932555
>There are literally no downsides to joining NATO for Finland

Yes there are, ask your government.

>>53932045
>giving a fuck about NATO
go home, ivan

>>53932649

Russia turns everything it touches into mediocre shit. US turns everything it touches into a cuckshed similar to itself.

Finland doesn't need NATO
Source:1939

>>53932696
1. He said that Obama send weapons knowing that some of them could--and would--fall on the hands of extremists.

2. ISIS emerged in Iraq not syria.

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>>53932045

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>>53941636

>>53937408
None of those were done by NATO.

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>>53941669

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>>53932045
Based Funland.

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>>53941075
>ivan

I stand for what 82% of Finns stand for and I'm the Ivan? You Estonian criminal scum should stay on your side of the water where America is shoving their cocks up your women's pussies right this moment.

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>>53932712
The creation of NATO was in direct response to the aggressive nature of the Soviet Union.
Why not go back even further and just blame it on Russia? They fucked up Afghanistan too by destroying damns and various infrastructure.

>>53932555

Back in the 1990s when this shit was decided after the Yeltsin-Clinton meet in Helsinki it was extremely obvious that the Americans and the Western Euros had wanted us to take the responsibility for defending the Baltic states.

Eh, no thanks, at least without entanglements we have a slight chance of getting lucky like Sweden in the past two wars.

It's also extremely obvious that all the NATO advocates who are getting supported behind the scenes by Americans and their German puppets are also the ones pushing for multiculti rainbow shit and they want Finland to become their base of pushing this crap to the ex-USSR. Fuck that.

>>53941923
learn to read

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>>53941923
Come at us, Pekka.

>>53942176

You wish, with the way the ruble is going it will soon be cheaper to get vodka from St Petersburg.

>>53942116
Neutrality, appeasement and Finlandization will work great to ward off Russia. :DDD

>>53932603

How did ISIS happened in Syria and which countries were meanwhile bongo-bonging the civil war and chanting "REMOVE ASSAD, REMOVE ASSAD"?

Well Nato is not going to happen. Finnish/Swedish defence alliance is going to happen tough.

Ok goobai finland :DDD

>>53942451

Actually they can't do that now, we opted to become a German vassal instead. So they can't pressure us into putting their favorite people in charge because Germany's favorite people are in charge.

Too bad the fucking Germans had to go ruin it with refugee bullshit, sneakingly becoming a German puppet state was a genius plan up to that point.

>>53943141
That will benefit us how? Swedes are perfectly happy to let us do all the fighting, as the last several thousand years have showed.

>>53932045
Why is Balkan pictured? Are we some evil NATO base?

>>53942047
NATO was created to be a tool to push American hegemony using Soviet Union as an excuse. Two wrongs don't make a right.

They did fuck up Afghanistan in a dick waving contest against 'murica & pals but at least they're not in a position to do it still.

>>53941673
NATO to me is USA and friends and even if it's supposed to only be a defensive union, you guys sure know how to pull the right strings to get your puppets into your shit operations. I kinda saw your response coming, it's an easy way to make my legit claims look like shit.

>>53932045
Nice proxy nigger.

>>53937408
> Iran coup
You stupid fucking cunt, the pro-NATO/US government was the one that got deposed. Read a fucking book.

>>53944211
> muh shah

>>53944168
Why would that be a proxy? It's true that NATO support is very low, although I don't know why anyone would care.

>>53943920
probably something to due with NATO's involvement in the whole bosnia/croatia/serbia war thingy

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>>53944168
fuck nato :D

>>53944211
>>53944316
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

>>53944402
Well they did fuck it up but somehow made this whole shitfest calm the fuck down. And neither of us were even NATO members at the time, why would that involvement even be a bad thing?

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Nice.

>>53944497
>talks about coup in the 70s
>links a coup from the 50s
are you just pretending to be retarded?

>>53944211
He was a pal of yours until he started fucking with oil prices, after that it was easier for CIA to put in an Islamist government and fuck up chances of Iran ever making it to a real power.

Yeah, read a book about it, written by Shlomo Shekelstein. I'm sure you're not biased at all

>>53943037
When will you exit NATO?

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>>53944679
God bless America!

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>>53944734
SOON

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>>53944679
At least they're more willing to have their countrymen (as long as it's not them) defend other countries, rather than themselves.

These numbers are actually pretty pathetic.

>>53944687
not sa,me