Why did they become so based while the rest of Europe and East Europe is a steaming degenerate shithole?
Na zdrowie, my name is Pan Kenowski
I'm a 27 year old American hussar (winged knight for you bydlos). I charge tanks on my tablet, and spend my days perfecting plumbing techniques and playing superior Polish games (drinking, drinking and Witcher series)
I train with my lance every day, this superior weapon can pierce clean through tanks because it has plumbed over a thousand toilets, and is vastly superior to any other weapon on earth. I earned my lance license two years ago, and I have been getting better every day.
I speak Polish fluently, both Kurwa and Silesian dialect, and I write fluently as well. I know everything about Polish history and their mustache code, which I follow 100%
When I get my Polish visa, I am moving to Warsaw to attend a prestigious Liceum to learn more about their magnificent culture. I hope I can become a programmer for CD Project RED or a plumber!
I own several hussar wings which I wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before I move to Poland, so I can fit in easier. I yell kurwa at my elders and seniors and speak Polish as often as I can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.
Strong Catholic morality
Acceptance of Black and Middle Easter christians
General attitude and worldview
Refusal to give in to the defeneracy of Wester Europe
Strong, manly men
Hates both Germonies and Russia
Poland is God's paradise on earth
There should be a science of discontent. People need hard times and oppression to develop psychic muscles.
Well, the German/leftie media and politicians went crazy, Europe is divided East vs West, yet again.
They were always a decent country, if somewhat impoverished by communists, it's just you never noticed. And rest of Europe is pretty good, you're just too fixated on sensationalist /news/.
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TYS MNIEEEEEEEEE DO SNU TULIŁAAAAAAAA
We were always based. You just didn't give a shit about us desu.
>tfw Warsaw is East Asian tier skyscraper shithole now
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>except they arent even refugees
Yeah, just like all those brown "refugees" coming to the west.
>and your "based" PiS agreed to taking 7000 shitskins even though they could have rejected the offer
What do you mean? I hate PiS.
>on nie śpiewa hymnu swojego regionu przed hymnem Polski
>na hymnie Warmii wszyscy stoją z ręką na sercu, na hymnie Polski siedzą
Musi być ciężko mieszkać w miejscu bez historii przyjacielu.
indeed, I want both sides to stop pretending this is the case
>What do you mean? I hate PiS.
Wish I had saved the link but long story short PiS technically could have rejected the 7000 quota agreed by the previous PO government, but that cuck Waszczykowski (or whoever is in charge of foreign affairs now) still went for it
Their media is not as much state controlled as politician controlled. Last government makes systemic effort to use state mechanisms to change their bias to one favourable to new government, but it's nothing even close to Putin's continual fellatios by russian media yet.
As for carrying their weight, what is that even supposed to mean? They are developing from a pretty low base, it will take time before they're on par with countries with head start. They pay their EU dues in accordance to agreed metrics, while at the same time opening up their market.
Tylko nie mów tego głośno bo ci z krakoffa to usłyszą i nas zhejtują!
>the media isn't run by the state, just by the people that run the state
Big difference, lad.
State controlled media will serve whoever is in power.
Media with political bias will push their narrative regardless of who is in power.
Polish media are shit, but they are not an instrument of totalitarianism yet.
If you say so. Isn't head of BBC appointed by your government?
I don't like what poles are doing with their media either, but I'd like to give them benefit of doubt. At least it's still not as bad as in Italy.
I guess I was wrong, it was simply a law that was passed that gives Poland more total control of the media.
Still breddy bad.
>I guess I was wrong, it was simply a law that was passed that gives Poland more total control of the media.
>Still breddy bad.
As I said, polish media are shit. The law they passed is not a step in right direction, but I personally don't expect them to make the media even worse than they were previously (they claim they want to "balance the bias", I expect they want to reverse it to be more conservative). I don't think Poles trust their media and their government enough to let either get away with what Putin has done to Russian ones. I suppose the time will tell.
Yeah, but this can apply everywhere if you plant enough suspicion. Doesn't mean it necessarily has to be the case.
>Okay. Who has polish media fired?
Wew lad. They've purged a fuckton of journalists and newsreaders. It didn't make the news abroad since nobody recognizes them, but they've cleaned the house pretty thoroughly.
Piotr Kraśko, szef redakcji "Wiadomości"
Beata Tadla, prezenterka "Wiadomości"
Justyna Dobrosz-Oracz, reporterka "Wiadomości"
Milena Kruszniewska, reporterka "Wiadomości"
Piotr Jaźwiński, wydawca "Wiadomości"
Maciej Czajkowski, sekretarz redakcji "Wiadomości"
Jacek Tacik, reporter "Wiadomości"
Elżbieta Byszewska, reporterka "Wiadomości"
Magdalena Karpińska, reporterka "Wiadomości"
Jarosław Kulczycki, prezenter TVP Info
Adam Feder, reporter TVP Info
Piotr Maślak, prezenter TVP Info
Joanna Osińska, prezenterka TVP Info
Hanna Lis, prezenterka "Panoramy"
Ewa Godlewska-Jeneralska, wydawca "Panoramy"
Andrzej Godlewski, wicedyrektor TVP1 ds. audycji publicystycznych i społecznych
Karolina Lewicka, reporterka "Wiadomości" i prezenterka TVP Info (złożyła wypowiedzenie)
Paweł Moskalewicz, wydawca TVP Info (złożył wypowiedzenie)
Iwona Radziszewska, dziennikarka portalu tvp.info (złożyła wypowiedzenie)
Dominika Wielowieyska, autorka programu "Puenta" w TVP Info (odrzuciła propozycję dalszej współpracy, w solidarności ze zwalnianymi dziennikarzami)
Tomasz Lis, autor programu "Tomasz Lis na żywo" w TVP2 (nie przedłużono z nim umowy, wygasającej z końcem stycznia)
Pretty much everyone connected to the news. The brackets are, in order: resigned, resigned, resigned, refused prolongment of the contract as a gesture of solidarity, contract was not prolonged.
>I guess I was wrong, it was simply a law that was passed that gives Poland more total control of the media.
national tv has like 10%? of channels, other are private and independent
same goes for radio
all of the newspapers are independent
you know nothing john snow
but they played you like a fiddle
Actually I believe Russians say that
>Opposition media is just western propaganda
>Opposition media is just corrupt oligarchs
>Is same as in west, no media is independent, is all controlled by Jews
Guess what, our former government when they came to power fired all but one right-leaning public tv journalists. Neither EU nor western media would bat an eye then. I wonder why, surely not because the current government is openly conservative and less willing to obey Germany & EU, right?
Public media were filled with PO cronies, now it's PiS turn, they're gonna seize public media, that's true, but literally every previous ruling party did the same, so why the fuss all of a sudden?
Because PiS went all out. PO waited for the contracts to end and quietly replaced everyone over a long period of time. PiS passed laws that allowed them to fire everyone on the spot and dropped all pretense of it not being a hostile takeover by planting their fucking former PR expert as the CEO. And all that along with passing similar laws in administration, dismantling the constitutional court, once again reducing the independence of the prosecutor's office and expanding the police rights in the already notoriously abused part - that was by the way ruled unconstitutional, but PiS instead of fixing it just gave them even more power.
Gee, I do wonder why people reacted to the media changes more strongly.
Meanwhile in /pol/and:
>Opposition media is just ze EU propaganda
>Opposition media is under ze Germans controll
>Is same as in west, no media is independent, is all controlled by Jews (or Germans)
pretty much the same thought process (or rather the lack of thereof) in both cases
we truly are catholic russians
well they have to hurry since their chieftain is seriously old - who knows he could be in the middle of a stroke at this very moment. and without their dear leader pis will rip itself apart
>Public media were filled with PO cronies, now it's PiS turn, they're gonna seize public media, that's true, but literally every previous ruling party did the same, so why the fuss all of a sudden?
Better drop the Poland is Central meme if that's the reasoning you're going to use here
>PO waited for the contracts to end and quietly replaced everyone over a long period of time
agreed, but the overall effect was similar, so this is more of a PR thing than some major democracy abuse. Besides, they seem to stick to the rule that new government must act decisively within its first 100 days to achieve anything meaningful
>dismantling the constitutional court
when PO tampered with CC I somehow didn't see muh democracy headlines all over the media, not even a column desu
>reducing the independence of the prosecutor's office
And? Not that it was some essential principle of democracy. Just a law passed by previous government that didn't work out well according to many IIRC
>when PO tampered with CC I somehow didn't see muh democracy headlines all over the media, not even a column desu
Nigga. What PO did - elect two judges when it was the right of the second parliament. Which was ruled unconstitutional by the CC and justly so. What PiS did - outright refused to honor a CC verdict, decided to end the insitution altogether by purposefully passing a law that paralyzes it completely, which in turns means they effectively abolished the constitution since there's no way now to make sure it's respected. Don't even fucking dare compare the two.
>And? Not that it was some essential principle of democracy. Just a law passed by previous government that didn't work out well according to many IIRC
And? Do you know what is the principle of democracy? Separation of power. One of the few things PO did right is separating the functions of the chief prosecutor from the minister of justice. Overlaps in power lead to abuse, especially when politicians gain more access to methods of control and popular topics among voters like crimefighting.
now that takes some serious, unrefined russkie butthurt to make up all of this.
>mfw foreigners concerned about the state of polish national media
This shit in media happened every time after every lost elections in past 26 years. Nothing to see here. It's a standard procedure, this time is little more intense than usual because this is the first time in newest history of Poland when left became minority in parliament
The whole thing was blown out of proportion by influential leftist individuals, both native and foreign, afraid of losing another country to right wing "menace"