>>53927805 We attempt counter-american culture, but fail at it. I moved from Texas to Alberta and there was almost zero difference outside of the climate. Quebec is probably the most """cultured""" province, but they've been resisting Canadian as well as American culture for years. The maritime provinces have a bit of a different culture too, but less of a degree.
alri imo the major Canadian attributes are Protectionism, Survival, and Obligation. all 3 play into one another as well and the primary one is Survival.
in A Thematic Guide to Canadian Literature, Atwood talked about themes in American and British works, mainly being the idea of the "island" for the UK and the idea of the "frontier" in the US.
in Canada we have a similar idea, more individualist and inwardly focused than the others, that being survival.
A lot of Canadian works especially early ones have dealt with survival (usually against nature or some powerful force) and even modern ones have expanded these themes beyond merely man vs the elements. even books that are not about canada by minority authors who are from here have these same themes, A Fine Balance is one I can think of about a boy/man's life in the Early Indian republic.
As a nation we have a strong sense of being both the victim (in a figurative and literal sense), as well as a desire to protect those we feel who are also victims, but as well a strong degree of protectionism and distaste towards things we feel threaten us, whether it be the USA or Muslims or the english/french. This also describes our very bipolar attitude towards immigrants.
Atwood outlines the basic ideas as being in one of four possible positions:
Position One: To deny the fact that you are a victim
Position Two: To acknowledge the fact that you are a victim (but attribute it to a powerful force beyond human control, i.e. fate, history, God, biology, etc.)
Position Three: To acknowledge the fact that you are a victim but to refuse to accept the assumption that the role is inevitable
Position Four: To be a creative non-victim A position for "ex-victims" when creativity of all kinds is fully possible.
I think if Canadians actively look for these themes they will begin to notice them all over.
>>53928116 British parliament has no direct control over anything in Canada, we simply share a Queen, but even then she does almost nothing involving our governance. The monarchy in Canada is represent in federal and provincial levels through appointed representatives of the Queen. The USA has more influence in our borders desu.
Our culture is about nature, hard work, and survival. It's why we have symbols like the beaver, the lumberjack, and a fucking leaf (maple sap production is heavily dependent on not being too cold or too warm).
Here in the Maritimes most of our culture is focused on the ocean. Sea shanties, seafood, sailing, etc.
>>53928291 >stereotype it may be a stereotype but it's also true. I've spent a fair amount of time hitch-hiking through America and Canada, and I've found strangers in America to be more on guard and less polite in General than Canadian strangers. Ex. I was at a gas station in America and I didn't know where the nearest on-ramp was to the highway headed south. So I walked up to an older gentleman, I said 'Excuse me sir.' He ignored me and turned his back to me and started walking away. But I needed an answer, so I just blurted out my question before he engaged me. He answered my question, but he gave me false information. That was another commonality in America, almost everyone I met gave me the wrong directions.
>>53928465 I think that you're thinking about yourself there. Taking an opposite stance to propaganda is no better than drinking up the propaganda in the first place. Make your own experiences, act as a good man and come to your own conclusions in life.
>>53928662 For the most part it is legal. You cannot hitch-hike in Calgary or on the trans-canada highway. In America, most states allow you to hitchhike, but as you said not on the federal interstates, only on on-ramps. But even then, there are states where it is completely illegal, like Utah. Even in Montana a police officer told me it was illegal to hitchhike there. Other strangers told me it was, but who knows, I'm not going to argue with a police officer in America when I'm ignorant to the matter.
>>53928732 They strike up conversations at random, if they're like grilling outside they'll give you some, if you're broken down on the shoulder they'll automatically stop to help, they are the kinds of Americans who make the idle small-talk that Yuros hate. Basically they are more willing to engage than Canadians. Again, I could be totally wrong desu.
>>53928692 It's not simply contrarianism, [email protected] Our curriculum is rife with such obviously false notions, another example being the mosaic vs. melting pot dichotomy which was framed with subtle undertones of "look at those savage Americans and their Borg-like insistence on assimilation". That always gave me a good laff as I could see just how lovely that "mosaic" is as an immigrant kid in an immigrant ghetto.
Canadian culture from my perspective: >shy and reserved, we're friendly but we wont strike up a conversation with you on the bus >the national sport is self-depreciation >anglos and french have a distaste for one another >apathetic about canadian politics for the most part, american politics is more entertaining >desperately wants to differentiate themselves from americans >proud of being a "cultural mixing pot", although minorities are very much separated into their own communities, we're too scared to ask them to try to fit in
>>53929384 I don't recall ever being presented with those topics in school. Albeit I only spent 1 semester in university before dropping out because of how illogical and narrow minded the teachers were. What subjects were you taking where the teachers bothered to compare Canada with the United States? For myself I had certain prejudices towards the united states, not from what teachers told me, but more-so from television and older people I looked up to. I entered America with an open mind--and I will admit that I have not explored all of America--but what I was faced with there was a lot of contempt for what I was doing. I've never experienced that sort of contempt in Canada, but again, I can't say I've explored all of Canada. Most of my experiences are from BC.
>>53930208 >What subjects were you taking where the teachers bothered to compare Canada with the United States? Social studies in 5th grade (Toronto). The class wasn't a comparison of the countries and I don't recall seeing any anti-Americanism in other cases but that example stands out even today because I thought quite a bit about cultural identity growing up (as almost all immigrants have throughout childhood).
>>53928211 There is no Canadian or American accent, both countries have accents in regions. Canada has Newfie, Maritime (bit different, like our state), Francophone, and the general "Canadian" accent, but that accent also leaks across the border of the northern middle USA, I've heard it called the Northern-Continental accent instead
Although I vastly prefer Canada over the US for moral reasons and being a reactionary monarchist, some of the posters here are really SJW and there are an unfortunate lot of brown diaspora
/int/ trying to grasp the definition of culture is like evangelical creationists trying to understand evolution
The real, academic, non-meme definition of culture is simply human behaviors and the various ways they're expressed. You can't "not have" a culture as that would mean being unable to emote, interact, form societies or what not. /int/ also tends to think culture is "that which is exotic or different to me", or that it has to be discretely owned by a single state, if its shared across populations its invalid
/int/ treats it like some sort of weighted commodity, like "Serbia has 500kg of culture, Bosnia has 250kg", somehow quantitatively rationalizing human behavior as a pile of stuff owned by a country. The worst is when they say memes like "that village has 'more culture' than your entire country!" (in what, gross tonnage?) then proceed to name 2-3 cultural items from it after having to google search. Also the equally retarded black and white statement of "having no history" which implies somewhere in the world spacetime only begun a picosecond ago
I think a lack of education and the obsessive, hyper-competitive focus on countries and states here is the psychological reason for this meme. For the sake of competitive vicarious role-playing /int/ers apply the oddest properties and attributes to their chosen and rival states
>>53927805 >>53927805 >Ontario shares about 90% of their culture with the US Great Lakes Region, the other 10% would be farmland Ontario https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KLSbCtinXs&t=12 >Manitoba/Saskatchewan Manitoba's similar to Farmland Ontario, with more farms and extremely boring Saskatchewan's similar but with more shitty natives >BC Shares the "cascadian" culture with Oregon and Washington, pretty laid back people IMO. >The Northern Territories completely barren, Yukon is very similar to Alaska, and Nunavut and NW are bth complete shitholes that somehow have the highest homicide rate in Canada (see: natives) >Quebec French culture for the most part, coastal French towns share a similar culture to Atlantic Canadians >Maritimes This is where Canadian culture starts, with no real immigration since the potato famine, this area is about 94% white and over 90% christian. New Brunswick still shares French Canadian culture. A little bit of old Irish and English slang. Mostly nice people. >Newfoundland Extremely English, Cornish and Irish. Very old part of North America, with the capitol (St. John's) being founded in 1497. Accent is uniquely fucked, they have their own traditions and identity, as they weren't even Canadian until '49. They on average earn more than most but cost for everything other than real estate is fucky. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8OPy7De3bk&t=20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vWlIvfQTck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub5O8HwRoDU my peronal favourite part of Canada, but im biased.
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