Do you agree with NATO's decision to bomb Serbia in favor in Kosovo?
I don't, but I think the bombing was based.
>Vid related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfpMK83VtZM
>ywn start a rival to NATO with Serbia, revising degenerative human rights bills and stomping on everyone's shit.
feels pretty low man.
>But if it wasn't for NATO, you'd be speaking Russian right now.
>shouldn't exist since the end of the cold war.
Russia isn't USSR.
who gives a fuck anymore. it was almost 20 years ago and the bombings themselves targeted exclusively strategic targets (including the chink embassy). you can tell by the fact that all the lights are on in the city
To hell with NATO.
> terrorists start butchering Serbs for the crime of being Serbs
> some old, tired policemen and war veterans beat them back
> terrorists whine that they can't do more terrorism stuff
> terrorists start pathetic attempts at attention whoring such as dressing Serbian corpses as if they were kebab corpses
> enter NATO
> YOU GUYS! DICTATORSHIP AND WAR CRIMES AND COMMIE ALPHABET AND YOU LIKE RUSSIA AND STUFF
> a civilised, alphabetised European country gets freedomed by McNATO and friends just because
> years later, kebab mafia control a territory whose economy relies on drug trafficking and organ harvesting
> Serbs are the ones who got in fact genocided in that area
> the fact that the largest American military base outside the US is located in that area is purely coincidental
also only a few of the destroyed churches there
few mosques were destroyed in the war itself, but churches and graveyards continue to be destroyed to this day, today the biggest church in pristhina is used as a trash dump and homeless "shelter" filled with drug addicts which piss and shit inside it, leave it to germans to defend that
how are your ''''Syrian'''' lodgers feeling Hans? You should try and work a little later tomorrow so they can have some extra bonding time with your lady. Lord knows they've earned it after what they've been through.
the war is hardly over, biggest american base outside of the US in the world is in kosovo, and even though the NATO soldiers look at the churches and monasteries being destroyed and priests killed they do nothing about it, they probably like it
russia was zimbabwe tier in 1999, dealing with too much shit of its own, if it happened now a days they'd take a firmer stance I think
maybe in the war (not that mosques which were built 50 years ago thanks to an arab religion are worth more than churches which are hundreds of years old)
but it continues to this day, churches and graveyards are being vandalized every day, priests harassed
>USSR break down
>Titos Yugo breakdown
>Russian backed Serbian government
>Russian government controlling the mine industry of Yugoslavia after dissolution
>Instability made everything worse
>Serbia could have supported NATO
>Serbia said no and wanted to lick KGB anus
>Mines now own by Russia
>Serbians still live in shit
Serbians still lick Putins anus
> Meanwhile, Slobodan Milošević died comfortably in the Netherlands
>Same Milošević who promised a better Serbia
Srbija do Tokija, amirite?
>>Russian backed Serbian government
>>Russian government controlling the mine industry of Yugoslavia after dissolution
>>Instability made everything worse
>>Serbia could have supported NATO
>>Serbia said no and wanted to lick KGB anus
>>Mines now own by Russia
>>Serbians still live in shit
the fuck are you on about? Russians dont own Serbian mines?
is this what they teach you in the NATO indoctrination camp
But they did? Sending military aide throughout the entire war. Guess what? Russian government wanted to destabilize Serbia for its own benefits. Serbian myth tells the people how the Russians are the greatest of allies to the Serb
Oh, I would love it if NATO disbanded and you eurobabies were forced to cut welfare to pay for your own defense. Except this time when you start another massive continental war, like you always do without NATO, don't expect us to save you from another one of your fascist and/or authoritarian regimes where any thought outside the mainstream is brutally punished without you becoming literal vassals of the US in the future. You fucks cannot even run your own economies and manage your borders by yourself, and you think you can manage to not fuck up militarily? Topkek.
what benefits would that be you idiot
NATO literally decided to bomb their capital and not only that, the bombs "missed" and hit hospitals and schools instead of their "intended" targets over a counter-insurgency which was a response to their churches being burned and people harassed out of kosovo
Do we support you against ourselves or something?
>Russians dont own Serbian mines
Do you know what happened to the mineral industry that Serbia once had? All of them all are controlled by the Russian oligarchs. Guess who ruined Serbia by instigating the stupid war and promises? Russian government of course. What's the future of 2016 Serbia? Still the same shit. Even Albanians managed to live better now because of the stupid sanctions that ruined the country
How can a muslim goat herder tell me about Serbia?
Kek how fucking delusional are you?
European wars are a thing of the past, once civil ones now.
We have our own defenses and can work with Russia for external operation like it was intended for Syria.
Jesus burgers are this stupid kek.
Nato literally does nothing other than dragging us into your stupid wars to please the saudis.
It was necessary evil because it prevented a genocide in Kosovo. I'm glad that even though we weren't in NATO at that time, our government let them use our airspace
It was a humanitarian bombardment, as the Czech President Havel said back then
>NATO literally decided to bomb
And what did the Russian government even do? Instigated the stupid war with promises to the people of Serbia. Sell wife for guns? Yes. Sell your livelihood for anti aircraft gun? Yes
Guess what happen after the war? Dimitri and Sergade from Moscow came over to Serbia to take over any industry. What's Serbia now? Some Russian oblast at best.
You are muslim scum
Because of these stupid lies that the majority of the Serbs believe in
Going against NATO? Sure, let's do that and use whatever revenue we have left to buy guns from the Russians. After the war? Russians will buy them back at a discount
>Russia isn't ussr
Russian was the lingua franca of the Soviet Republics
Yes it was the correct thing to do.
Some muslim goat will tell me about Serbia? Majority of Serbs don't even know what the hell is going on the majority of the time.
Meanwhile, Russian cock is deeply embedded in Serbian society
Because Russians are saints? They will sell themselves just for more money
>Even Albanians managed to live better now because of the stupid sanctions that ruined the country
not true, serbia has about 2x the standard of albania and 5x of kosovo, but it doesnt matter, what you're saying is pure bullshit, you're trying to justify your involvement in the war as "liberation" just like always, making up bullshit that doesn't make sense, what you described never happened, the Milosevic government hardly had any economical ties to Russia
again, you are making up bullshit about a nonexistent Russian factor trying to justify bombing schools and hospitals, because america didnt do nuttin wrong ever
its funny how you are the ones supporting said scum you retard >>53924541 >>53924147 >>53923803 >>53923615 >>53923540 >>53923408
croats and iranians are brothers by aryanism.
ITT: irrelevant nations arguing over the most irrelevant war of the 90s
Look, I don't like Albanians, but you can't genocide people in Europe
The West let Bosnia slide and that would be too much
I'm not denying that there were civilian casualties, but I still think it was better than doing nothing
>most irrelevant war
>because of that war you NATO imperialist shitters are maintaining a massive base in the middle of that organ trade narcotic trade shithole kosovo to this day
the results of the war are certainly not irrelevant
>Some muslim goat
Alright so let me get this straight. You're all for the people (NATO) who backed muslim insurgents and destroyed shitloads of Orthodox Churches
While the Macedonian guy strongly opposes it...
...and this makes him the muslim?
Look Tonibler, I know your family moved to the US when you were a baby, but damn man..
ma ok je
>but you can't genocide people in Europe
There is 0 proof that genocide actually happened in Kosovo.
Genocide/WMD is just an excuse to bomb a nation, after the war it is easily forgotten, and the history is written by the victors. Just look at the every war which involved USA in the last 50 years.
So go away with your idiotic statements.
>you can't genocide people in europe
then why are the alboshits doing it in kosovo post-"liberation" and NATO is allowing it?
serb population in kosovo went from 20% back then to almost 0% now outside of mitrovica, thanks to albos burning their houses, churches and harassing them to either get out or die
serbs acting like americans did them great harm while the truth is they saved their existance in entire Bosnia
>Milosevic government hardly had any economical ties to Russia
No point in trying to convince a muslim goat about the very obvious.
What did Serbia get after the war?
Lots of mines
> Your asspain is delicious.
Your assapain comes from losing the war and cementing the idea of NATO
>bombing schools and hospitals
>Russian backed Serbian right movement
>Serbia sells itself for some Russian weapons
>Serbia is flattened by aerial bombardment
>Russians take over any leftover industry
>Serbs are now glorified serfs to the Russian oligarchs
your actions created a sharia law state in europe and opened one of the biggest human trafficking and drug trading rings in Europe, which is still going strong today, 80% of the narcotics which come into europe pass through kosovo, it's certainly not an irrelevant effect.
how does that dismiss the fact that you DID bomb schools and hospitals? also this fuckin' retard calling me muslim while muslims are the enemy and the ones YOU supported, your country loves supporting muslims, fuck you, you sharia law state creating brainwashed amerishits
>destroyed shitloads of Orthodox Churches
Serbs are more muslim than Christian because they have been licking the prophet of Russia
>Time to pay
>Serbia lost land and resources
s*rboman shills are all out tonight i see
BTW i think they deserved whats coming to them.
They elected literal braindead, warmonogl,savage lunatic Milosevic to run their country, they told him to stop killing people, he told them to fuck off and that he can fight the world alone.
He got what was comming to them
>USA :s*rbia stop killing mudslimes
>s*rbia : No, fuck you ill do what i want
>USA : seriously, stop
>s*rbia : Fuck you, want piece of this ?
>MUH EVIL NATO
lmao s*rbshits are hilarious
Serbia did nothing wrong, they faced what the west faces today but 2 decades earlier. They are like us but were unfortunate enough to be in the wrong side of the cold war and didn't have nukes like we do. Otherwise western kebab lovers would try to bomb us too.
Americans genocided several nations on their continnet, keeped negroes as second grade people without many rights using them for harderst labor until recent decades, and you complain about some people far-far away. They have another morals.
Truth is Rwanda happened and the West ignored it, then shortly after this happened and we remembered Rwanda and felt obligated to get involved.
This place was a backwater and if Rwanda had never happened the West would have allowed Serbs, Croats, and Bosnians to kill each other forever out of sheer indifference.
>there were barely any of us left there
Why can't you admit that you lost Kosovo long time ago. Ever since you took Kosovo from Turkey, % off Albanians was steadily rising
Just take the Northern part of Kosovo while there are still old Serbian people living there while you still can
>calling me muslim while muslims are the enemy and the ones
Because only muslim logic would ever support the idea of a Russian backed government
No one is that dumb to support a nation like Russia...
we are next, even though we never genocided any alboshits, NATO still supports them and they will manipulate facts and claim we did, call me when NATO is bombing ur ohrid churches and installing a caliphate
same situation which happened to kosovo is happening here, unless you are a shiptar, you are a retard if you support their actions
Teo wrongs don't make a right
I know that people currently in Kosovan gov't are implicated in organ trafficking
Serbs there should be protected by international force if Kosovan gov't don't want to do that
>Serbs there should be protected by international force if Kosovan gov't don't want to do that
no one is protecting them, protected i should say, because there are none left anyway, the churches which are left are being shat and pissed on or torn down, its lost, but it the west still won't admit what they did was wrong
Oh, but you have to punish the people for the sins of their government, according to your logic?
Well yes, yes I can.
Usually when someone dies, you inherit their money. You're basically awarding them for the hard work of your father. It works same way for the debts; if that is the case then you shouldn't be able to inherit anything once someone dies, but it should all be burnt down since it's not yours.
If their fathers didn't pay, who is going to? Their fathers fucking corpse? Why can't you remember that at the time, there were still alive people who fought for Nazis. If their father tried their best to avoid payment, then their son is very much going to pay every single tear and drop of blood they caused.
This is coming from someone as a grandson of a Serbian Nazi soldier. Bite me.
We are not the ones who massacred albo mudslime savages.
and if NATO wants to support mudslimes and destroy churches there is not a whole lot i can do, specially crying about it on the internet trying to get (You)s by s*rbshits
yes there is something you can do, you can start by not endorsing it, you retarded c.uck, because of the NATO bombing and how they forced us to give citizenship to alboshit refugees we are now swarmed by those locusts, and its only a matter of time before NATO "discover" injustices we committed against them and bombs our schools, hospitals and churches
bosnian muslims =/= arab tier shit muslims, you meme loving fucks
I may add, their fathers were the ones who should of expected consequences, if he didn't want his children paying the price, he should have thought of everything. I'm sorry, but it's a cruel world. Don't forget that Albanians also genocided us in WWII too.
My grandfather paid his bit so I didn't have to. That's what they should have done. Not pretended they were fighting the good side in the end while they were hiding a dark secret under their coat.
>tfw americans shill for NATO all the time
>tfw they then post that they spend too much for """""""""europeans defense""""""""" and they should back out
You shouldn't punish people for the sins of their government.
It wasn't a carpet bombing, it was targetted at military installations. Yes, there were incidents that led to numerous civilian civilian casualties
I don't agree with your stance on that. If we do that and remember all the wrongs and grudges that happened to our ancestors, there wouldn't be a time for anything except revenge
not even all arab tier muslims are shit. such points of view are results of very easy media brainwashing and the lack of information/intellect. yes, it would be easy to hate ALL the muslims just because they're muslim. are you even aware that more muslims are fighting ISIS than foreigners and that they are first and most often victims of terrorism themselves
i guess nothing matters anymore but loud opinions and being more right than others regardless of facts
not the first time, they armed taliban in afghanistan and trained them, even let them visit the white house, later they supported chechens
afterwards those same afghans did 9/11 and those same chechens did the boston bombing, karma is glorious
Your a fucking idiot. We should have helped our Christan brothers but our foreign policy almost ALWAYS supports muds. If the situation were reversed you'd take the opposite side because you have no fucking opinion other than MURIKA STONK! Fucking hick your too stupid to understand your supporting durka
owell only connection i have with kosovar albanians is my heroin
ill just list the things US did because US is NATO
>support mudslimes in kosovo and establish sharia drug traffic, human trafficking state in Europe
>support mudslimes in afghanistan
(they later did 9/11 for karma)
>support mudslime chechens
(they later did the boston bombing for karma)
enough for you?
Except the boston bombing was unrelated to any support in afghanistan and no one cares about kosovo because they have no power
You're trying really hard here
Ok you got me, nice b8. 7/10
like I said 80% of the drugs in Europe come through Kosovo, along with human trafficking which they are involved in
and vietnam and pinochet are good involvements? vietnam, where thousands of americans and many many many more vietnamese died and were scarred forever because of shit like agent orange for a retarded theory that turned out to be false, was a good war?
It IS over. Only American warhawks think it isn't.
M8 the term "ethnic cleansing" originates from the actions of fucking filthy Serbs in the Yugoslav wars; the only reason Milosevic didn't manage to go full Hitler is because of NATO bombing campaigns.
the vietnam war was a result of poor communication and jewry/greed of the communist party in veitnam. The only people to blame are those in congress who declared war in something no one gave a shit about
>you will never be a yurofag
I'm convinced they have better genes than us white americans
>most of them know four languages
>are always up to date on news
>their schools all have much more rigorous requirements
It isnt fair
They should've bombed more desu, this is direct testimony from a survivor of the Srebrenica massare:
"I saw how a young boy of about ten was killed by Serbs in Dutch uniform. This happened in front of my own eyes. The mother sat on the ground and her young son sat beside her. The young boy was placed on his mother's lap. The young boy was killed. His head was cut off. The body remained on the lap of the mother. The Serbian soldier placed the head of the young boy on his knife and showed it to everyone. … I saw how a pregnant woman was slaughtered. There were Serbs who stabbed her in the stomach, cut her open and took two small children out of her stomach and then beat them to death on the ground. I saw this with my own eyes."
Serbs are absolute animals, based Bill Clinton put them in their place.
YOUR the one supporting Muslims you fat piece of shit. Jesus Christ you don't even understand the fucking conflict on the most basic fucking level do you? Just quit fucking posting
srebrenica numbers were exagerated by 10x
AND YOU THINK THE SERBS DIDNT SUFFER ATROCITIES IN THE WAR? my great grandpa was from a village in northern bosnia and herzegovina where mujahadeen cut off the heads of all the men of the village and showed them to their kids and said "this is the fate of infidels"
go fuck yourself
Why do americans always support muslims?
were talking about serbia right now, with chile you supported pinochet who was a brutal genocidal dictator, and you invaded panama because their dictator (who was not a genocidal maniac like pinochet btw) didn't play ball with uncle sam
>this entire thread
NO nation, NONE, will ever be able to cause as much butthurt as America. We are the champions of justice and butthurt and all of Eastern Europe knows it.
And to the wrongdoers ITT, to the genocide sympathizers and enemies of America: your impotent rage will never be actualized. You have felt the eagle's talons and you rightfully flee from her shadow in fear with the knowledge that if you cross us, we will bomb you again and again and again until you no longer know the concept of hatred, only power and submission.
>no u butthurt
>no u butthurt
All the conflict was the result of Serbian aggression m8. They had a plurality in the Government and armed forces, literally saw Muslims as subhuman and thus tried to completely cleanse them from their traditional homes. Just can't do that these days. Only mistake NATO made was not bombing Belgrade to oblivion after the Bosnian war and letting Milosevic get away to start round 2.
You're stupid faggot. Americans got lucky Russia was down in the transitional period right before Putin got elected, if their planes landed in Serbia, your subhuman president would literally initiate ww3
Unitedstatians sabotaged a socialist bresident by paying the truck drivers of the country to go on strike and hide the food, clothes, etc. Then they backed up Pinochet so the army could take over the country. After that, we were an experiment country where they tried some brand of shock capitalism.
Allende was shitty, but people would realise it and pick another president. He had no army support to stay in power for long
>Germany isnt on the list
>Japan isnt on the list
>China isnt on the list (boxer rebellion)
>spain isnt on the list (WW1)
This picture isnt complete, and it triggers my autism
It's not like they found mass graves, videos of massacres and actual records of the 250,000 people forced from their homes on Milosevic's orders. Oh wait, they have.
>Milosevic confirmed for Hitler 2.0
bullshit, war started as a civil war in bosnia when some retards started spreading rumors that X side was genociding X in opposite villages, no one had a way to confirm it and they started killing each other in a frenzy of confusion
it might sound far fetched but this is balkans, then JNA got involved and milosevic did do some bad shit, but every side suffered in the war, stop thinking so 1 dimensional, that doesn't work for such complex wars, especially not in the fucking balkans.
>serbs think they can make them do that thing
That's what the Communists wanted friend, and their fight was over by 1992 when the JNA pulled out and was disbanded
We just wanted to secure as much clay for our people as possible, we didn't give a shit about the Bosniaks/Croats not wanting to stay
>It's not like they found mass graves, videos of massacres and actual records of the 250,000 people forced from their homes on Milosevic's orders. Oh wait, they have.
its not like the serbs in kosovo were forced out of their homes, had their churches burned, and they get harassed to this day
o wait yes they do, same thing happened to a lesser extent in bosnia, literally every side was guilty in the stupid ass bosnian war, you think in black and white, typical westener
Keep doing God's work. World needs protector like USA. Protector of values of progress, freedom and democracy. Of free market and thought.
There were terrible people on both sides, but the ones who started it, and indeed the ones who were the most terrible were overwhelmingly Serbs. Everyone was living together relatively peacefully before Milosevic started with all his nationalism shit, 100% his fault for what went down.
>It was a humanitarian bombardment,
What a crock of pure shit. My Serbian friend almost died in such a humanitarian bombing of military strategic targets. He was about 12 years old when his house came down upon him.
Exactly. We see the same shit now with Syria as we did with Serbia.
>le Assad is genocide man lets support """"""" moderate """"""" rebels
Yet another country where the Christians mist be slaughtered at the behest of the us
albanians were starting shit in kosovo all the time even when tito was in charge, even in the balkan wars
the problem was that serbia was not cold war yugoslavia to be OK to supress them
That's only from your biased perceptive. The reality is Milosevic's assent to complete power over government and military coupled with his espousment of radical nationalism emboldened the minority Serbs in Bosnia to start shit and try to create their own "ethnically pure" state, thus causing the entire mess that continued throughout the rest of the 90s. It's a historical fact.
>t. some one who read about it on wikipedia
i lost family in that war you piece of shit, and they weren't killed because they were le evil genociders killing the innocent bosniaks, they were killed because they were christian and serbs in their village when wannabe jihadi shitters were passing through, you don't know shit
even wikipedia doesn't agree with his narrative:
>The KLA, formed in 1991, initiated its first campaign in 1995 when it launched attacks targeting Serbian law enforcement in Kosovo, and in June 1996 the group claimed responsibility for acts of sabotage targeting Kosovo police station
The're all over 4chan today probably because of the report regarding Litvinenko's assassination. Anytime evidence of Russia doing something sketchy or blatantly commiting obvious aggression comes out they flood 4 chan and other boards posting demands for proofs, NATO Ebil, Why does America have Texas?, etc. If you post proofs they just spew bullshit and ask for more. It's transparent and fucking as obvious as their green men in Crimea but they still act like it works.
t. someone whose friend lived in Serbia during the war, actually. Of course when Serbs start trying to genocide entire ethnic populations, it's going to cause a great deal of anger towards them, even those who are innocent. Doesn't change who started the conflict though. It's like trying to claim that just because the Russians burned down some German villages and raped a few thousand of them it totally justifies the Nazi Regime and holocaust.
Dear god, I just started 4chin and came to /int/, I am 5 minutes lurking this thread and I am mindblowned for the 100th time by american stupidity.
You fuckers are literaly kids, like some bully victim ignorant kids that dont know shit but stil argue about anything.
Besides all that serb buthurt crap (I am not, I dont care about subject and thread in here).
Fucking fatty virgin kids that rage over keyboard and hate everything, true nature of internet wariors, my brave and wize murican friends. KEK
Also, why do you croats always post in threads like this?
Shitposting on maximum thinking "LEL I AM FUNNY GUY" LE LEL LEL.
Fucking retards, I feel bad for you crobro, I know you from /exyu/, triggered deluded litlle cunt that hates Serbs online 24/7. How is your life going?
Did you go out in this 2016?
Besides that NEET life you got, could you kill yourself?
What do you have in life seriously?
Jerking, Computer....anything more?
I want to puke when I try to imagine you and your life, room you live and everything attached to you.
I am 100% sure that its you anon, the same one degenerate from /exyu/, arent you?
Just like the Germans were supposedly the first victims of WW2 lel, they had to invade Poland cos their border guards were killed, right? Everyone in human history thinks they're on the "right" or "moral" side, even when it's patently not true.
> In 1997, the organisation acquired a large amount of arms through weapons smuggling from Albania, following a rebellion which saw large numbers of weapons looted from the country's police and army posts. In 1998, KLA attacks targeting Yugoslav authorities in Kosovo resulted in an increased presence of Serb paramilitaries and regular forces who subsequently began pursuing a campaign of retribution targeting KLA sympathisers and political opponents in a drive which killed 1,500 to 2,000 civilians and KLA combatants. After attempts at a diplomatic solution failed, NATO intervened, justifying the campaign in Kosovo as a "humanitarian war".
So the timeline was:
albanians form terrorist armed group and start shit
serbs retaliate the same way yugos did
this time it's different tho and america swoops in
terrorists goals are reached, kosovo independent, huge american base in the middle
the KLA was formed in 1991, I suggest you make good of the advice you offered me
its obvious you're brainwashed and you won't take any narrative other than the black and white "hurrdurr evil serbs innocent muslims :((" one so I can't convince you, what ever, god knows the truth
Until '95 the Yugoslav conflict was concentrated in Bosnia m8, nothing to do with Kosovo yet. Pls learn some history, fucking hell, you're pretty much their neighbours. Those education cuts are really hitting Greeks hard.
>Why didn't we intervene in Rwanda?
That's actually one of the reasons we did in Kosovo because of, "Why didn't America work police stop it!?". We tried to do the opposite of what we did in Rawanda but we are bad guys no matter what we do.
Au contraire, I have the privilege of being from a country not involved in the conflict, and thus not subject to the massive amount of propaganda from both sides. I'm actually able to view the facts without personal bias or prejudice. As such, it's overwhelmingly clear that, while both sides committed atrocities, the Serbians committed them on a far greater scale, and would have continued on their campaigns of ethnic cleansing/attempted genocide unabated were it not for NATO. Getting rid of "terrorists" doesn't necessitate surrounding a city and shelling it indiscriminately for 4 years, or massacring thousands in UN safe zones, pls justify that? You're so blind to your own bias it's ridiculous.
You realize the wars went on for a decade 1991-2000 and ethnic cleansing happened the whole time by all sides, and our multiple interventions (94'95'99') didn't stop the fighting until May 2000.
They sort of started it. As in the committed the first violent acts but only after getting fucked by the Serbs in Kosovo. People tend to have a limit of how shitty they will be treated.
" After its autonomy was quashed, Kosovo was faced with state organized oppression: since the early 1990s, Albanian language radio and television were restricted and newspapers shut down, whereas Kosovar Albanians were fired in large numbers from public enterprises and institutions, including banks, hospitals, the post office and schools. In June 1991 the University of Priština assembly and several faculty councils were dissolved and replaced by Serbs, and Kosovar Albanian teachers were prevented from entering school premises for the new school year beginning in September 1991, forcing students to study at home.
With time, Kosovar Albanians started an insurgency against Belgrade when the Kosovo Liberation Army was founded in 1996. Armed clashes between two sides broke out in early 1998. A NATO-facilitated ceasefire was signed on 15 October, but both sides broke it two months later and fighting resumed. When the killing of 45 Kosovar Albanians in the Račak massacre was reported in January 1999, NATO decided that the conflict could only be settled by introducing a military peacekeeping force to forcibly restrain the two sides. After the Rambouillet Accords broke down on 23 March with Yugoslav rejection of an external peacekeeping force, NATO prepared to install the peacekeepers by force."
Also you can see that if the Serbs had agreed to international peacekeepers this shit may have just died down.
By all sides you mean almost exclusively Serbian, right? Other sides may have committed the odd horrific massacre, but that happens in every war. Even if they had wanted to, neither the KLA or ethnic Bosnians had anywhere near the capacity to conduct ethnic cleansing on the scale Milosevic did.
Pretty much the UN and NATO had continually tried to end it through diplomatic means and it never worked. Next time we'll just let them slaughter eachother for another 10 years. And it will since the Balkans has always gotten along like dog shit.
Belgium were the ones who fucked up initially and withdrawed after 10 of their guys got beheaded.
We covered up the whole genocide for 3 months...
Could I have source on that being a reason?
I never once heard about Rwanda in the buildup. Very few Americans knew about the extent of Rwanda until the late 90's.
We used it as a reason for our 99' intervention though.
the source of the source of wikipedia cites just Veton Surroi and Ibrahim Rugova, which are both albanians, one of them president.
Also KLA was formed way earlier than 1996
I don't care about the bosnian war I concede whatever you wish
Now, do you concede that albanians started the kosovo war or do you stop posting?
A bit more than a Judge. The assassination as almost certain its probably as far as Putin ordering it because Russians generally don't walk around with polonium intentionally poisoning former Russian spies without the FSB being involved and they wouldn't do sonwith out Putin's blessing.
President Putin 'probably' approved Litvinenko murder - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35370819
We have no involvement in NATO, had no involvement in the conflict in any way, and have a completely free media who are more than willing to criticise US actions (see Iraq, Libya). However, when a state:
1) Completely suppresses the rights of ethnic minorities
2) Surrounds a city with artillery and bombards it for 4 years
3) Ignores UN designated safe zones and massacres thousands within them
And continues to pursue actions similar to this, it is quite obvious that they can in no way be seen as the "good guys". Still waiting to hear how shelling Sarajevo and massacring refugees under UN protection was "removing terrorists"? More like creating terrorists.
still waiting to see how balija going around in villages looking to kill the first serbs/christians they see can be seen as the "victims" or "removing the genociders", more like creating genociders
you cant be serious
Serbia had nothing to do with war in Bosnia. In Bosnia there was a civil war fought between ethnic Serbs, Bosniaks and Croats. NATO bombed us (Bosnian Serbs) which was ok I guess because we really did most of the things you mentioned but I don't approve any of it, our government at that time was quite retarded
Anyway the point is that Serbs from Serbia didn't deserve NATO intervention in any way because of conflict with Kosovo
He died before he could, however the evidence against him was incontrovertible; the only major nation who opposes recognising his actions as genocide is Russia aka Milosevic's biggest ally: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/07/russia-vetoes-genocide-resolution-srebrenica-150708150057291.html
Kek, brainwashed by Serb propaganda. Why then was the Serbian President charged with genocide and crimes against humanity due to his actions in facilitating the atrocities in Bosnia? The ethnic Serbs in Bosnia were supported and encouraged every step of the way by Serbia's government and military.
I have no idea why Milosevic would be charged with crimes in Bosnia, he literally make it harder for us to fight muslims, we were sanctioned by current Serbian government during the war
We had moral support from people of Serbia of course because we are the same nation but army was ours except for some paramilitary forces from Serbia which were not approved by their government
I fucked up my second sentence I was saying that the assassination was definite but Putin was only probably involved (not definite). However, that wasn't my point. I was indicating that the report came out today and when shit like this comes out all these ebil-american, NATO bad, need more proofs poster and threads come out and then in a few days are never seen again untill the next report or incident.
A UN sanctioned war-crimes tribunal is American propaganda? I think you'll find they're the definition of impartial; of course that wouldn't matter to someone who thinks the massacring of refugees is somehow a fight against terrorism.
That's better than the other stupid ass Americans itt. Hating Mudslimes but supporting us policy in the 90s because they don't even know enough about it to realize it contradicts their own views. Then the inevitable "MURKIA CAUSES SO MUCH BUTTHURT XDDDD" Once they are called out
I said from the start that the war was fucked up and all sides did messed up things, you act as if there is only one victim and one perp all the time, and no, serbs didn't start it
>No idea why he would be charged
Maybe because he was responsible for said crimes? It's absolutely insane how you could think he wasn't involved, it literally couldn't have happened without his support.
I believe you are right and I question his age as well. The Bosnian Serbs I know here are pretty lad back about this shit. I.E. they wouldn't be so heated and don't even complain about Albanians.
An independent war-crimes tribunal is entirely separate to the general machinations of the UN general assembly. If they had no evidence, they wouldn't have been able to prosecute him, simple as that. No amount of lobbying from the US could change that.
It pains me greatly that he did not live to see how the current Middle East situation would develop. I would love to hear his take on it. I can't imagine he would have approved of how it has been handled.
I too have admitted that both sides did horrific things. But the Serbians did far more, and to a greater extent, something which is borne out by the overall death toll of the conflict. They were a fully-fledged nation waging war on far smaller and traditionally marginalised and oppressed minority groups, motivated by the extremist nationalism propagated by Milosevic. He didn't want a pluralistic society, he wanted one where Serbian ethnicity and culture subjugated all else. He literally changed the Yugoslav constitution just to fuck over Kosovans.
i thought we were talking about bosnia? I agree that the bosniaks experienced bad shit even though I lost a relative there, but I have 0 sympathy for the kosovars, pic related how the kosovar refugees we accepted to "save" them from the serbs act now, if we knew how they were, we would have gladly led them to the slaughter and thanked the serbs
A war-crimes tribunal isn't the ICC, m8. Even so, just because an apparatus doesn't have the power to take on the US, it doesn't mean the rest of their work is invalidated. A local police force can't prosecute a mafia boss, however they can still take care of a random deranged murderer should they appear.
You realize we aren't a part of the ICC the most weve done is be an observer we won't radify shit related to it. One of our biggest issues is it lacks trial by Jury which is considered a right of U.S. citizens amongst other things:
"The ICC has been criticized for: absence of jury trials; allegations of retrials allowed for errors of fact; allegations that hearsay evidence is allowed; allegations of no right to a speedy trial, a public trial or reasonable bail. Supporters of the ICC say that the ICC Statute contains the due process rights found in the US Constitution and now well recognized in international standards of due process in Article 67 Rome Statute, with the exception of the American right to jury trial."
I was talking more generally about the character of the Milosevic presidency. In both Bosnia and Kosovo he helped facilitate terrible things, which can't be justified by the "dealing with terrorists" excuse. Just because some Kosovars are shitty people doesn't give you the right to try and erase their entire culture and ethnically cleanse them, just as Croats and Bosniaks wanting to be independent doesn't give you a right to facilitate atrocities against them either.
in the kosovo case, (I'm not saying Milosevic was innocent btw, never did), but in the kosovo case they started an in insurgency (KLA), started attacking serb civilians, harassing them, attacking churches, attacking the serb police, that's when milosevic snapped and began a brutal counterinsurgency that frankly, wasn't unjustified.