>be probably the only Dutchman with a spine left in the entirety of the Netherlands
>go to Syria to fight IS
>return home not even expecting thanks for his contribution to humanity
>is arrested on suspicion of killing IS fighters
Between Germany and the Pooperlands I can't tell who's more cucked. It's a cuck-off, ladies and gentlemen.
Meanwhile, we welcome back our fallen heroes with the honor they deserve.
Funny the most important part isn't mentioned in the article.
He was a member of YPG, a branch party of PKK known for terrorism. The Iraqi government doesn't approve of YPG either.
If he joined Peshmerga there would be no issues now.
He's a stupid fuck, that's all.
The YPG is only a terrorist group because a Turkey says so. They're literally the only force in the east of Syria and the North of Iraq that's worth a shit.
Specious and irresponsible argument.
It's recognized as a terrorist group by NATO, EU, US and some other countries. Your opinion on it is irrelevant.
He joined a terrorist group by standards and that's what counts by law.
Maybe if he didn't stick his head that far up his ass and joined Peshmerga instead, he would've never made the news.
>NATO, EU, US and some other countries
Because Turkey says so
>Maybe if he didn't stick his head that far up his ass and joined Peshmerga instead, he would've never made the news.
The Peshmerga doesn't accept foreign fighters. If you had a modicum of geopolitical wherewithall you would know that.
That's all beside the point, anyway. This man didn't go to Syria to fight the Turkish, he went there to fight IS and your security forces KNEW that.
How about the side that actually stands a chance at winning? Even if Assad were to win the war with Russian support, he would face so many sanctions from the rest of the international community what little was left of Syria would implode in on itself.
>Because Turkey says so
But fact is they still say it. And Turkey is an actual sovereign country while whatever K*rds fight for isn't and will quite literally never be. He fought as part of a terrorist organization, and thus deserves to be treated as a terrorist and murderer. You must be a fucking idiot if you think you can just fly off to whichever conflict zone you want to murder other people while not being part of an officially sanctioned operation, Ahmed. The world doesn't run on your feelings and your morals, it runs on the law.
Don't you get the point ya fucking twat? It doesn't matter who the told them so. It's recognized as a terrorist group in this country and that's what counts.
Your opinion is not above the law. He committed a crime by law standards and that's the only thing that counts.
If there are no other legal/approved groups that accept foreign fighters, then he's out of luck. Should've joined the Dutch army.
Reminder that kurdish guerilla fighters and the Peshmerga play an immense and extremly important role on the battlefield, much more than Brazil.
>it runs on law
Law is a funny thing, specifically if it's changed to conform with the generally accepted values and morals of a given society. This is what law stands for, is what it's meant protect above the prejudices of any one man.
A law that is made to prevent another country from throwing a fit because you realise it's vendetta against a certain population has long been ignored by everyone and is best continued in order to not upset the applecart in a shit region is not a legitimate form of legislation. Beyond this you're merely arguing technicalities, which is also illegitimate.
>terrorist attacks on both civilian and military targets since 80's
>thousands of dead people
>holding the eastern region down by fighting every government involvement
>regularly raiding schools to keep children out of education system
you must have a very flexible body seeing how can fit your head right up your ass
What's wrong Mohammed? Upset you had to leave your mudshack in Syria because Turkey backed Assad, and probably sold him the guns that killed your parents? I'd tell you to go take a swim to cool down, but you're probably barred from any public swimming pools.
There's actually lots of fuss about this case, both political and in the news, and he might not be prosecuted. There is a petition to give him a medal.
But it's forbidden to enter a foreign army and kill people. And if you kill a westerner you can actually lose your Dutch nationality.
Perhaps if Turkey were more accommodating to citizens other than Turks you wouldn't have landed yourselves in this mess. You have the whole of European and North American history to use as a guidepost for treatment of minorities and the invariable consequences of fucking it up, but you refuse to take the easy route.
Again, I'm talking about a militant arm that's effectively fighting IS and accepting foreign fighters to help them. Neither Turkey nor the whole of the world knows the YPG's/PKK's intentions in Syria after IS is defeated, but perhaps if you brought them to the table afterwards you might reach a more favourable conclusion.
Wut, opposed to you I'm actually native and not some T*rk immigrant
>Turkey backed Assad
BS, your Sultan Airdoowan never liked Assad, he's bros with ISIS and their backmen like KSA, Qatar,... because of ideology sharing (Wahhabism)
They share the same rights as every other Turk. What else do they need?
>Neither Turkey nor the whole of the world knows the YPG's/PKK's intentions in Syria after IS is defeated
Committing terrorism in Turkey
>but perhaps if you brought them to the table afterwards you might reach a more favourable conclusion
What's there to discuss about? And don't come up with that "hurr clay" bullshit. No country is going to give away 25% clay because someone demands so.
>How about the side that actually stands a chance at winning?
So...Assad? I can't see the K*rds winning in any way. Even if they miracously win militarily, in the end the Turks would never let them actually win anything important..
>he would face so many sanctions from the rest of the international community
> rest of the international community
Who? The US and MAYBE the EU. The rest of the world can fill the gap easily.
>much more than Brazil.
But Brazil is not involved nor want to be. What would we win by taking sides? Nothing.
We are already commanding the maritime peacekeeping mission in Lebanon, that's more than enough of Brazilian military involvement in the area.
In 2014 prosecutors had openly declared people were allowed to join the Kurds and kill ISIS members. So they have no case.
>things that will never happen because PKK is a drug cartel
PKK stopped being a group of freedom fighters right after they figured out they can smuggle drugs to fund themselves. Do you think you can stop mexican drug cartels by sitting a table with them and trying to find a solution? No, you can't.
I am not saying we aren't responsible for the creation of PKK, I am just saying what they are and that dutchman fought with good intentions, too bad he fought for a drug cartel behind commie veil.
>Committing terrorism in Turkey
I really hoped you would reach this conclusion, because it's complete and utter bullshit. If I had to wager a guess, the PKK would invite Kurdish Turks to Rojava to settle. This would force some reaction from the Turks, and I honestly hope it's a military one! Nothing would cause the UN to recognise Rojava more quickly than a Turkish occupation of Eastern Syria.
>They share the same rights as every other Turk.
As the constitution says, yes. But what's the de facto status of rights in Kurdish areas? Please don't tell me it's literally the same, because you'll just give yourself away as a Turk.
>Any rich Western Yuro cunt
Kek, don't get your hopes up. I guess relative "poverty" (like you have in V4) is a blessing these days, they may have "only" half our GDP/capita but at least they're spared from the sand invasion because no welfare
No about Poland, Hungary, Czechia, Slovakia
Also you may have higher GDP/capita, but also higher taxes and property prices (due to pop density), so your purchasing power is the same or even slightly lower than here
Do you coincidentally happen to be a Kurd?
> If I had to wager a guess, the PKK would invite Kurdish Turks to Rojava to settle. This would force some reaction from the Turks, and I honestly hope it's a military one! Nothing would cause the UN to recognise Rojava more quickly than a Turkish occupation of Eastern Syria
m8 what the fuck are you on? what business does Turkey have in Rojova?
>really hoped you would reach this conclusion, because it's complete and utter bullshit
Now I'm 100% certain you're a Kurd
>what business does Turkey have in Rojova?
Erdogan said quite expilicity he would never tolerate a Kurdish state on Turkey's doorstep. This came after YPG success in early 2015. I believe him, don't you?
This was certainly in reaction to Turkish strikes on YPG in Syria and Iraq.
>calls others mudslimes
>defends his cuck government against his fellow citizen who was out killing muslim terrorist scum
Name one terrorist act the YPG has committed. Pro-tip - You can't.
Meanwhile the same Turks who pressured the rest of the world into branding the YPG as terrorist are arming, funding and providing intelligence to terrorist that have attacked Kurdish civilians in Syria and Turkey. Try agian Mehment.
>The Peshmerga doesn't accept foreign fighters.
You must not really know what you're talking about because they do. There are citizens from US, canada and Europe currently fighting with Peshmerga. Only within the last year did they restrict the foreign fighters they accept to only those with previous military experience.
Erdogan doesn't have shit to say. This fucker also claims Turks found America.
Turkey is allied with Iraqi Kurds, whom already have a autonomous region.
>This was certainly in reaction to Turkish strikes on YPG in Syria and Iraq.
really nigga? It's also a reaction to strikes on YPG before it's existence?
In case you didn't notice, they're terrorizing Turkey for 38 fucking years.
He didn't expilicitly say a Kurdish state he said this
"Suriye krizi başladığından bu yana savaşı kışkırtmakla eleştirilen ve cihatçı grupları destekleyen Cumhurbaşkanı Recep Tayyip Erdoğan Gaziantep'teki son konuşmasında bir kez daha Rojava'yı hedef aldı. Erdoğan, "Kuzey Suriye'yi bünyesinde 1400 PKK'lının bulunduğu PYD'ye kurban etmeyeceklerini" söyledi."
which translates to "Since the start of syrian crisis, president erdoğan who have been criticized for propagating war and funding jihadi groups said we will not sacrifice northern syria to 1400 PKK fighters in Rojava."
>This was certainly in reaction to Turkish strikes on YPG in Syria and Iraq.
>tens of civilian casualties from PKK bombings and attacks since late 2015-2016
oy gevalt, you are stupid and a hypocrite.
Much support for your mongol Turkish brothers eh mehment?
What happens next in this war? The fighting is so back and forth its hard to tell with any certainty what the outcome will be.
There was a galician guy that went to fight Isis but had to come back when he lost 30 kilos or something due a disease. He said there were many euros fighting with him and that a german mate was killed. This interview was like three months ago and then the spanish justice didn't give a fuck afaik.
To carry arms on behalf of a foreign power is treason, it doesn't matter if that power happens to be the good guys. The law is the law.
>inb4 b-but IS fighters get off scot free
They don't. We recently sentenced two of those to life for murder, treason and human rights violations.
Correction, they were not sentenced for treason as they are not citizens and can't legally commit high treason, had they been citizens they would have. On the plus side, if they are ever released they will be banished for life as well.
>What happens next
The regime and Iraqi Shia militias are massing for a spring time offensive to push West from Aleppo to link up with Fu'ah and Kafrya and cut supply lines to Aleppo. Should be relatively easy since there's a wide open plane and only a few villages between them which will make the Rebels sitting ducks for Russian air support. They're also going to push from Northern Aleppo to Nubl and Zahraa to break the siege and cut Aleppo's supply lines to Turkey.
Once that is successful they'll try to complete their encirclement of Aleppo. At the same time they'll try to push forward in Latakia and into Idlib along the Turkish border. There's also a big possibility for a regime offensive to clear the rebels left in either the Homs or Ghouta pocket.