Why do Turks treat alevi people badly? I had an Alevi friend when I was in Istanbul and thought they are much nicer and better people than most of other turks. Women don't cover themselves in diapers and you can drink raki and have good discussions with them. Also women are extremely hot.
Alevis are not Shia you ignorant cunt. You're mixing it with Alawites. Alevism is just one of the Sunni brances. Those AKP voters tend to dislike Alevis because they believe in the Hannafi branch of Sunni.
It isn't a big thing to be an alevi. You just think of Ali as bigger ( they believe he reincarnates times to times. I heard some of them say Atatürk was actually Hz.Ali reincarnated to save the people of the faith )
So they don't feel like it is absolute necessary to state that they believe in the Alevi branch of Sunni islam.
"Some sources link Alevism to Shia Islam and particularly to the heterodox syncretic sufi group known as the Bektashi Order. According to these sources, Alevism is closely related to Bektashism: commonalities include the veneration of the Alevi saint Haji Bektash Veli, a Turkish or Iranian saint from Khorasan (modern-day Iran) of the 13th century."
My family is deeply involved in Bektaşi tariqat. I have been sent to there as a child to learn about the religion.
Haji Bektaşi Veli was one of the first schoolars among the Turkish society and philophy to spread Islam in Anatolia.
His beliefs and ideas later became a branch in Alevism.
It is linked to Shia because the islam was brought to Turks by Persians who had believed in Hz.Ali (s.a.v ). This influence cause to the Bektaşi and other Alevi schoolars to have somewhat similar beliefs but still it is not %100 similar to the Shia Islam.
If you look forward to it deeper , you could see that Turkish Alevism ( that mostly the Bektaşi tariqat has established ) is neither of the two.
It has influences from both Shia and Sunni Islam but it is closer to Sunni Islam because of the lack of most Shia ibadats ( which are mostly Persian cultural things )
Ok, that's interesting stuff, I should look into it closer. How does the divide show in Turkish society? I've read somewhere that the government rarely gives permissions to build alevi cems. Is the identity clearly visible in everyday life?
There is not much of a divide in the everyday life. My family believes in Bektaşi section of Alevi Islam but I had alot of other friends who were not Alevi.
It's just a political thing that started by a hotel being burned. Divide still continues to be political though. Also I haven't seen any Cemevi ( alevi mosque ) being restricted to build , it's just some lies by the Kurdish Alevis to seek attention from the media.
The hotels name is " Madımak Oteli " if you want to research on the political divide.
Alevis would get executed in Iran over their ''Heresy''. Alevi sect is Turkish created sect that is half Turkic shamanism and half Anatolian Islam. It doesn't have any ''sunni'' or ''shia'' leanings.
Alevis pray while singing and playing instruments which comes from shamanism
Alevis (and Tukish sunnis) create totem trees to wish from ''Gods and their wise elder man who died''
Alevis make totem places at the locations they think their elders wise men had supernatural experiences
Alevis bath their children and pray for them at the same time to create a cleansing ritual which also comes from Shamanism
and shit ton of other practices as well.
Bektaşis can be classified as Sunni or Shia. It is not a solid shia or sunni thing either.
>t. grandson of a Alevi leader
All the things you said Also apply to normal türk woman
And alevis are some of the most nationalistic ppl in turkey
I dont get the issue, are you sure you didnt talk to some dumb kurdos who want to shill you