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Jesus fucking christ my fucking dick
If he had a bigger Penis I would probably die from dehydration
I am everything desu
Not even memeing though, traps are a huge turnon for me
I don't understand this mindset. If you don't like something, you are free to go somewhere else, do something else. You are bound only by your physical limitations and if you can't find anything in the entire world worth enjoying you aren't looking hard enough.
When I talk to Japanese people they are surprised by how good my Japanese is.
Then I try to read this thread, or read Japanese news, or listen to the radio and I just don't understand what the fuck is going on.
Stop being nice to people who are shit at your language, Japan. It's giving me a false confidence.
Does she look too mature carrying a bag?
I think the longer dress is super kawaii.
Best money I've ever spent, this and an anki deck make Japanese fun to learn omg I love this man. My memory isn't great so this helps so much.
Perhaps, you really can speak right Japanese.
4ch, even for a Japanese, is confusing.
On the radio, because slang or Osaka dialect are usually mixed and personalities are talking fast, it's hard to listen correctly.
The news is omitted written language-like.
You will be used to soon.
It means "Office Lady."
This is a "wasei eigo" or "Japanese-made English" term for a female office worker who is not in a career track position. Basically someone who does menial grunt work at the office.
INVICTUS - William Ernest Henley
Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll.
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.
I mean yeah whatever works. I just find mnemonics more often than not convoluted. My brain can assign meaning to a given kanji by looking at it pretty readily. I've never had trouble learning meaning associated to characters. Guess that's one of my strengths. Onyomis are impossible without context though. So any time I learn a new kanji (which I'm pretty much past) I would just learn an associated word that uses the onyomi.
I have always loved that poem. It makes me glad I was born an English speaker. Otherwise I'm not sure I could ever grasp just how gorgeous it is.
「Catcher in the Rye」
if you want to know the truth, catcher in the rye killed me, it really did
who cares? my life is amazing, i don't have to work and can do whatever the fuck i want
I am currently considering moving to asia in a few years. here's a list which cities I'd consider moving in:
Help me choose which one please! I'm ready to learn every language.
the order of the cities I stated doesn't matter.
I am a swiss german male. I am motivated to learn new languages. I love the internet and I also love meeting friends and talking.
When people are friendly to me I am friendly to them. The same with politeness.
I'm about to study internet technology (IT) in the university in Berne.
It seems that you don’t have a specific reason to come Japan, and I don’t get why it’s Asia for you.
>When people are friendly to me I am friendly to them. The same with politeness.
You look that have an air of importance and arrogant for Japanese, I guess.
Probably I suppose that Japan won’t quite suit you.
>You look that have an air of importance and arrogant for Japanese, I guess.
wtf? didn't you misunderstand that?
either that or you're being oversensitive, there was nothing arrogant about what he said
i mean, you're polite to people who are polite, and if someone isn't polite to you, you answer accordingly, are japanese people not like that?
i didn't see the pic... but well, i don't like seeing animal abuse, but i'm used to seeing that kind of stuff on the internet, so it doesn't bother me that much
but well, it's still against the rules of the board, can't post porn or guro here
I'd recommend Tokyo, Seoul, or Hong Kong
The rest of those are shit (apart from Taipei and Singapore but theyre irrelevant). unless you want to live in third world, corrupt, "wild west" type of cities.
sorry, yes of course. I'd hope to find a job in webdevelopment.
My main reason why I want to temporarily move to asia (not just Japan) is, to gain experience in life,, to learn new cultures and live in them, of course there are more reasons, but I sure don't have a specific one.
I guess I am.
I bet you should have a stronger purpose if you want to come here otherwise you'll be tired of Japan.
People are more collectivismim, conservatism and totalitarianism than your country.
You may bare and do something to work together even if it's not your true mind.
I know some foreigners who couldn't accept this tone in Japan. I hope you'll enjoy it as "culture" though.
I just want you not be disappointed.
Anyway, good luck for looking for the temp place you wan to live
>I'm about to study internet technology
So you've not even started on your education yet
my great great grandmother was a mongol, maybe that explains it?
thank you, as of now, I am still looking for a place to move to. there's no reason for me to rush it.
thank you for your recommendations, but can you explain to me why the others are shit or irrelevant? sorry for the late reply.
Anyway, this Singapore flag is a depressed incompetent English teacher>>53871692
He is complaining about his life in Singapore and still dreams about Japan and Korea, but it's obvious that he himself has the responsibility for his shitty life. There are a lot of English teachers who complain about life in Japan or Korea too. I think they are the same type of gaijins as him though.
I am not upset at all.
I'm just worried about him because It seems that westerns speak and behave tend to be rude for normal Japanese. I know some foreigners who cannot know why they are surrounded them at a distance from Japanese. Eventually, they are getting disliking Japan.
Plus, he stepped on a landline for Japanese. We don't like not to be distinguished among Asia, and we like a person who says Japan is Japan. I thought that the Swiss guy looks a typical western who became isolated when he stays In Japan.
I just wanted him regret later.
Singapork is a boring, expensive city to live in. Not really for young people looking for adventure. Vietnam probably isn't for you unless you want to live in a "wild west" type developing country. Shanghai is an overpriced shithole with dwindling opportunity.
Not sure about Osaka or Sapporo. Osaka might be decent. Sapporo will probably a small city with xenophobic people
At least I won't be an English teacher if I get the internship I'm applying for in Nippon
H-hehe, all those other baka gaijins
>Plus, he stepped on a landline for Japanese. We don't like not to be distinguished among Asia, and we like a person who says Japan is Japan.
Haven't got the slightest idea of what you're talking about there.
> I thought that the Swiss guy looks a typical western who became isolated when he stays In Japan.
The world is a very different place outside of your bedroom mate. Most people I know had a great time in Japan and only had good things to say about their trips there.
You're talking about cities like you've never been to or only been once or twice.
Sapporo is not even small, it is 4th largest city in Japan and the city itself was made by new settlers, so they can't be xenophobic so much. Osaka is xenophobic shithole though. Most of the protestations against immigrants in Japan happen in Osaka.
>Plus, he stepped on a landline for >Japanese. We don't like not to be >distinguished among Asia, and we like >a person who says Japan is Japan.
We like a person who says Japan is Japan.
Then, I mentioned just a foreigner's tendency in Japan. It's okay if it's a travel or short stay, but he will stay in somewhere more than one year.
I thought that he should know reality in Japan at first. Life is not easy.
Actually, I didn't hate English teachers before come to 4chan, but I realized that they are scum in their home countries and got the job just because they knew their mother tongue.
> Most people I know had a great time in Japan and only had good things to say about their trips there.
Because they are trippers. Most of the Japanese also say France was great when they tripped there but they start to complain about the residents when they study/live in there.
haha, nope she was a rug smuggler :)
Don't know what to say to that I'm sorry :/
Well coming from a singaporean it must be true (I hope), but I'm not sure about your opinions about Osaka/Sapporo
can you tell me about Sapporo/Hokkaido? I'd be thankful
so you'd rather say Sapporo or Tokyo would be cities for foreigners? Thanks for that.
you seem to be from Sapporo, what would you say, is Sapporo less xenophobic than Tokyo?
wow so many opinions @_@
hey I'm not saying Japan is asian. I just meant Japan IS in asia, which is geographically true. Japan is Japan just as Switzerland is Switzerland.
Well, english teacher isn't an option for me anyway, since my native tongue is german.
>hey I'm not saying Japan is asian. I just >meant Japan IS in asia, which is >geographically true. Japan is Japan >just as Switzerland is Switzerland.
I know the geographical story, but
I don't know how I explain it for you.
we speak 4 languages: swiss german, swiss french, swiss italian and rumansh
pourqui monsieur? tu est un cretin.
>tfw this is all you remember from french class
can someone translate?
I read that not all programs require you to be a native, you just have to be good at English
I'd say a bigger problem is actually being enthusiastic and willing to teach English.
How about Oita prefecture, you don't list it though.
Since it's far from Tokyo, Oita pushes IT industry as their future main industry, and some big companies have their business bases there.
There is an university which has many foreign students, and Oita cooperates with it by the utilization of the human resource.
If you can understand, it'll be funny.
>Since it's far from Tokyo, Oita pushes IT industry as their future main industry, and some big companies have their business bases there.
What the fuck are you talking about...?
Oita is one of the shittiest prefecture you can imagine.
>why do you think Oita is shitty?
It's notorious for dens of brutal leftists.
It's rural but a lot of crazy murder incidents happen there.
There is no industry other than farming so their only sightseeing spot is onsen (hot springs, which everywhere in Japan has since Japan is volcano islands nation)
Tokyo is kinda shit too. I think Hiroshima is good place for foreigners since they have Miyajima.
Not too small, and there are a lot of jobs in Hiroshima (and a lot of foreigners too).
Hiroshima is love. Hiroshima is peace.
Negative things he pointed out about Oita can be applied to other rural prefectures.
I haven't ever visited Oita though. Can you tell me the reason why Oita is strange place? I grew up in Kanto region so I don't know much about Kushu region.
There are more conservative rural than rural full of leftists. Rural area is more peaceful than cities. Other rural area have a lot more interesting sightseeing spots other than onsen.
(other prefecture claim they are onsen prefecture is Gunma, you know what I mean)
Hiroshima is good for white foreigners of course. Hiroshima has a lot more tourists from Europe or USA area than other part of Japan. Less Asian tourists and more White tourists mean good tourist spot.
2bh, we can't see your vision in future, and some Japanese posters are talking about you have wrong vision about Asia and they want to ask you if we ask you '' I'd like to live in Europe , no matter which country, like UK, Germany , Italy, Portugal, Lithuania, Yugoslavia, Sweden... anywhere in Europe is fine! which country do you recommend? '' , what do you think? There are too various countries and too different each country in Asia.
and other French guy told us the reason you want to come to Asian country is for Asian girls. do you agree with it?
?? I can't understand what you really want to say, but I guess you wanna say that Oita is like a nest for leftists, and there isn't any decent sightseeing place other than onsen?
Any source showing there are many leftists in Oita?
he probably doesn't mean harm by it
he finds those places interesting, and is ignorant about it, so he came here to ask for information, and you guys got butthurt about it
and about the french dude, he's a troll, ignore him
But at real life, it always happens truly. And if you live other country, we need to take the risk. I wonder this Swiss poster can understand it or not.
Okay, then if I ask you I want to live in South america, Peru, Paraguay, Chile, Brazil, Argentina, everywhere is good, and Rio de Janeiro, Santiago, are not very different, right? ''
Too ignorant became sometimes too rude.
I think you should write in English. I wonder if you can't write Japanese well yet but what you're saying is completely over my head. We are interested in different people rather than evading them.
nope, just looking for a different life.
just come here, we're really open to any kind of foreigner. you just have to learn the languages, which are hard. But if you show great skills you'll get through with english.
But finding friends is hard in switzerland, because individually, we're really closed.
to be honest, i wouldn't be mad at all, i've heard a lot worse
there are people who think that living in brazil is basically living in the jungle, that kind of ignorance is a bit annoying, but i don't mind, because it's not the person's fault
in the example you gave, i would honestly just tell my opinion about the country in which i live, i wouldn't take offense
yeah, i'm not used to writing japanese at all, so it takes a long time and i'm not sure if i'm able to get the message across
why didn't you understand what i said, though? was my writing that poor?
i'm talking about human nature, humans normally avoid those who are different than themselves, and stick together with those who are similar to them
just looking for a different life? Then you need to be changed before coming to Asia, especially in Japan. I don't want to harm you, but it's true Whites are not rare in Japan, especially English teachers are usually looking down and regard to a looser, but everything depends on people and their personality. Race is not real matter, smart and good personality are important. AND don't think all Asians are same. It sounds kinda rude. Asian countries are too different by each.
>why didn't you understand what i said, though? was my writing that poor?
Well, I simply couldn't understand what you think about "human nature" part, not because your Japanese skill, sorry.
I don't think human normally avoid different people. If they do, the world would be full of incest.
When I went to the Arizona museum of Pearl Harbor, I thought if I (Japanese) went there, how Americans treat me?
I guess Swiss kun thinks something like that.
Hiroshima is full of whites.
Oh I know, of course all countries have different cultures and values. I'm sure of that.
I'm not looking for a ASL job in any kind of way, I want to experience how worklife is in other, far away countries.
What do you think I need to change before moving to asia, let's say Japan, since you're an expert there? :)
i know, i'm not saying that japan is worse, i'm just saying that japan isn't an exception to that rule
no need to apologize :)
by "different" i mean "people with different features", so, technically, it doesn't have much to do with incest
well, you see, racism is a very stupid idea, isnt it? we're all humans, and there is no clear evidence that shows that a single race is better than the others, yet racism exist, and there are members of every race who think that their race is superior to every other race, so, yeah, i would argue that people tend to stick together
also, if you want to make a new friend, you tend to look for people with similar hobbies to yours
some people even shun people with some hobbies as otaku or stuff
>I wouldn't be mad at all.
Hmm, sorry my words sound a bit disgusting, but I need to say, Japan's GNP is 3rd in all over the world, and having strong economic power, so if a person ask us Japanese still wear Kimono only and eat sushi only, we're sure the person doesn't have any common sense and are not well educated. Japan is in Asia, but I'm sure if someone treat Japan like Bangladesh because we are same Asian, I take it as an insult, and many Japanese take the same way.
>by "different" i mean "people with different features", so, technically, it doesn't have much to do with incest
I still don't understand what you want to say.
Did you actually look down black kids when you were child? One of my class mate was Black (his father was black American guy and his mother was Japanese) but I played baseball with him many times just like with other kids. I've never felt he was dirty because his skin color, actually, I didn't even know his father was black, I just thought he was tanned too much. If you think you naturally look down black people by their looking, what do you think about tanned people? Are they dirty in your mind?
>what do you think I need to change before moving to asia, let's say Japan.
First of all, if I were you, I start to study Japanese, and then get enough skill( except Japanese skill) to work in Japan. It's not easy for gaijins to get good job in Japan.
At least you need B.A
Do you think today's racism is the same as 1900's scientific racism?
My impression most people who are racist (or at least say or do something that can be racist) are reactionaries. They might see actions of individuals and project them on the whole group, or they might feel threatened by mass immigration or might have some subconscious dislike.
I don't think most racists are supremacists, but rather apartheid-ists.
I know, and I'm just telling you the fact. we usually discriminate ''Japanese or not Japanese''. not by race. On the other hand, we are kinda tough to same Asians. Black people are not Asians, so I bet Black people are usually treated better than Asians. but ofc it depends on person.
sorry but I think you missunderstood unless you're talking to >>53878822
I've expected it to be harder to be honest. I'd study any language for 2years before moving to a different country. I think I'll have enough work experience in around 7-8years too.
Then, what do you do if someone treats Japan as a inferior country than China, because China's GDP is greater than Japan?
Yeah, Japan's GDP per capital is much greater than China's one. But then, how about a fact that European countries are greater than Japan's one regarding GDP capita? If you find that a Luxembourgian treat Japan as an inferior country than Luxembourg because of the difference of GDP per capita, what do you feel?
sorry, English teacher. But I know English teachers are not good pay and that's the fact, their social position is very low.
>you have a perverse nature a little.
Because I wrote the truth.
don't you understand the concept of racism?
don't you see a lot of people looking down upon zainichi? it's basically the same thing
lots of people think that their race is good, and anything that comes from a different place is bad
like these people, for example:
yeah, you have a good point, but there are people who do think their race is superior, at least here in brazil, black people are seen as trash by some people, some people think they are literally inferior, dumb, etc
can't argue with that (or confirm it), never been to japan
you missed my point. each country should be respected by ''each coulture''. I'm telling you it's not inferior or not. I'm telling you Japanese can expect something basic knowledge about Japan to gaijins as a common sense. And also I dislike treat all same as Asian, European or North/South Americans, whatever as I wrote each country should be respected by each culture.. But we don't expect it? because gaijins are more stupid we expect?
what's ignorance, then?
i can speak portuguese, you can't, is that a sin?
on the other hand, you can speak japanese very well, and my japanese sucks, so, is that bad?
knowledge isn't acquired in a linear way, there are many things which i know, and you don't, and there are many things that you know, and i don't. i don't see how that can be offensive
the dude who doesn't know much about asia, maybe he didn't get a proper education, or maybe he just never cared about this stuff, you can't say that he's wrong just because he doesn't know about your country
>what's ignorance, then
I think the ignorance become a sin, which the ignorance hurts other person's feelings, right?
Taking all of countries in Asia together seems too ignorant for us and I have to say too lack of imaginations. Anyway, I gave you one information, we Japanese don't expect too much and it's hard to admit our deep feeling about other Asian country. Because it's really complicated and even in Japanese I can't explain very well. But I can tell you we think ''we are very different from other Asian countries in spite of Japan is in Asia.'' which means not only good way also bad way. More or less, we really care about Japanese originality and having tendency to be treated the same with other Asian countries.
I know you can read Japanese, so you can see other Japanese complained about the same thing as me in Japanese. ''There are too many various countries in Asia and the Swiss guy takes all asian country the same, which seems very silly a bit. ''
Anyway, I've told him my opinion already. Not well educated is not a sin at all, but if the person wants to move Japan, they should have at least very very basic information about Japan. sorry for my late reply, I was playing hanafuda, tho.