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What country has the most missed potential? All of Africa was always going to be shit, but it seems like Latin American countries could have been alright.
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That picture really triggers my jimmies
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That image disturbs my flibber flabbers
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>Argentina (history and size)
>Brazil (history, resources, and size)
>Venezuela (one of the largest oil reserves in the world, if not the largest)
>Iran (was fairly secular under the Shah of Iran, Muslim Revolution destroyed Iran/US relations)
>Possibly Egypt if it wasn't so unstable
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>>53828560
>it seems like Latin American countries could have been alright.
t. Hector Jose Gonzalez the 45th
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>>53828560
India

>>53828607
Then you're a turboautist who's incapable of detecting satire
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We're gonna make it bruh
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>>53828760
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literally antarctica
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Eastern Europe
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Nej sa JAG
En gång till
Fuck You!
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>>53828838
Vi sitter i Ventrilo och spelar DotA *sing*
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>>53828560
>>53828834
Their shit gene pools were their downfall
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>>53828560
latin america was pretty good but then CIA happened and everything went down the sink
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any answer other than Brazil should thrown straight into the trash
>rich natural resource
>huge population and workforce
>close to industrial superpower
>good geographic
>rich history
>great blend of diaspora
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>>53828560
>All of Africa was always going to be shit
Are you kidding me?
Africa has TONS of resources.
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Brazil has
>white people
>large cheap labour force
>all natural resources
>lots of fertile clay

So why the fuck isn't it a superpower yet?
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>>53828959
forgot most important part
>very low muslim population
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>>53828929
Slavs are the master race, actually, Mr. Cancuck.
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>>53828932
>muh boogeyman
the United States saved Spain from economic depression btw, be grateful.
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>>53828560
Ukraine has the world's most fertile soil, but it's Ukraine

With its resources and population, India should be running the world lol
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>>53828978
Yeah but it also has TONNES of Africans. That's always going to be a bretty big roadblock.
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>>53828959
Indonesia is also wasted potential desu.

You know that just before WW2 the Netherlands was busy to educate the entire population, to compete with other powers. Which is what partially caused you guys to rebel.
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The Democratic Republic of the Congo

The Democratic Republic of Congo is widely considered to be the richest country in the world regarding natural resources; its untapped deposits of raw minerals are estimated to be worth in excess of US$24 trillion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo#Economy_and_infrastructure
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>>53829027
too socialist and too corrupt.
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>>53828978
There's not much fertile soil, though, and those resources are expensive to extract.
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>>53828838
Hehe
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>>53829113
The emancipation of Indonesia plans were just in the beginning stages, until the Germans came knocking on the door.
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>>53829113
islam is huge negative factor, we already reach our peak how we supposed to be
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>>53828959
Sorry, but Brazil always had too many blacks/indians, it never had potential
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>>53829027
Euro exploitation, military regimes, and corruption
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>>53829082
you basically killed our empire
1898 never forget
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>>53829063
Lol sure dude
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>>53828560
I sincerely believe that Malaysia-Indonesia and Peru could be global powers if they had been able to modernize like Japan and resist invasion
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>>53829178
so do USA, which meme aside is one of the most powerful country
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>>53829190
In fairness your empire was really shit.
You failed to make any good countries. You just made a bunch of halfbreeds everywhere.

That arab blood is strong in you.
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>>53829144
the drc is like a farmers wet dream. cept... its full of congolese
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Argentina
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>>53829126
Don't worry, I'm sure that China and the USA will maximise the productivity of the country in a way that won't exploit the local populace and BWAHAHAHAHAA.
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All of the Americas south of the USA, basically

>could have been an amazing new continent for all European countries to colonize
>nope, Spain and Portugal took all of it
>now it's shit
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>>53829325
this is what autoritarian regimes do to countries in the long run
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>>53829293
look at 1900s south america
cuba was pretty awesome
netherlands and belgium
most of italy
morocco which is easily the less shit north african country
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>>53829176
Arab merchants brought massive wealth and technology to Indonesia
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>>53829190
Not him but you empire was pretty much already on life support.
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>>53829298
The Congo was pretty based when it was an independent Portugese ally

It had a strong rule of law and a pretty efficient bureaucracy
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>>53829027
the country is also at least 60% black (census says 50% but many mulattos register themselves as white)

Brazil was alright when all political power was in european hands but democracy (mob rule) made them fall in third world level, with perpetual socialist rule
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>>53829435
islam introduced by arab merchants, but it was propagated by chinese frauds.
also arabs almost teach us nothing, most of our infrastructure and education was brought by dutch
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>>53829432
>most of Italy
the part of Italy you ruled turned to shit though

also Tunisia>Morocco
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>>53829432
>1900s south america
>cuba was pretty awesome
I think you fucked up your time. They were independent and in our sphere of influence then.
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>>53829478
>fucking pirates bombing his proper ship Maine in order to begin a war against spain

oh, these brithis genes never die. sad :(
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>America run by Indians
>they just wage wars against each other

>America run by white people
>genocides, cowboys and indians

>America run by jews
>great technological and cultural achievement, but it's overrun by Mexicans and the constitution gets shat upon

>America run by blacks
>a new age of peace, peace with Iran and Cuba, universal health care, no more getting shot, nobel prizes, minorities like gays get constitutional protection, privacy and net neutrality get on the agenda

Soon Trump will get elected and it will be cowboys and Indians again.
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>>53829502
>the country is also at least 60% black
Pardo ≠ Black
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>>53829580
Spain ruled part of the north too
Naples was a meme region that was only used for geographical advantage
Milan was fucking spanish for centuries
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Brazil and Latin America as a whole
we fucked up pretty bad
pic related, SP or Rio (different sites said different things) in 1941
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>>53829728
Just banter
http://abcnews.go.com/International/palomares-anniversary-time-us-dropped-nukes-spain/story?id=36322038
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>>53829502
most of our politicians are white or at least pardo
our only president with actual blacks on his family was nilo peçanha in like 1920
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>>53829870
You had too many blacks to ever make it
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>>53829728
It's agreed most likely to be a boiler explosion. We just needed a Casus Belli to get you Chorizo Bitches out of the Americas.
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>>53829502
>>53828715
>>53829418
>>53828959
>>53829027
>>53829178
2bh our population is pretty happy living here, most of euros that came here got settled here and made their lives here. Just because we aren't #1 GDP per capita or HDI or other shit doesn't actually mean we aren't a superpower, we aren't a superpower for anglo/jewish standards, but for latin standards we are pretty much the only superpower if you think about it.
>Great Weather
>Gigantic country
>Able to integrate everybody
>Able to export culture worldwide
>5 times World Cup winner
>Amazing and diverse food
>there are always things to do everywhere
>Population interested in learning other cultures
>Beautiful people
>Foreign companies cather to our needs intead of imposing their country's needs over us
>huehuehueheuheueheuheu
If people stop looking at numbers and thinking that means people are better at shit or other stuff, you will discover that the BRHUEHUE way is the only way to truly live a happy life
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>>53829743
>This shitty bait. 1/10
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>>53829945
white population peaked at 63% in the 40's
that's more or less (non-hispanic) white population in the US today
>>53829988
you forgot the part where dilma and lula fucked up our foreign policy and no one respects us anymore
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>>53829988
>Able to integrate everybody
>perfectly fine gentlemen turn into huehuehue brazilians
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>>53828959
>good geography
>Brazil
Moving goods in Brazil is a pain in the ass. They have to ship everything on land and move several mile long lines of trucks down what is essentially a cliff.

The only true answer here is argentina
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>>53830074
i think that by good geography he meant lots of rivers and arable land
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>>53829988
with that mary sue stat you're supposed to be competing against china and USA dumbass
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>>53830045
Search your heart; you know it's true.
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>>53830136
we are, but not by economy/war, but culturally 2bh
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>>53830121
this and also great sea access
oh, and also huge export potential neighbors for some extent
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>>53829988
Brazil is a poor, brown, dangerous degenerating cesspit simply filled to the brim with ugly people.
t. Man who has been to Brazil
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>>53829946
of course. you are worthy sucesors of your brithish fathers, no doubt.
Killing your propersoldiers to act with deshonour like pirates against a nation that had not done anything wrong against america.

>brithis pirate genes.
at least i hope you have inherited their teeth, too.
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>>53830196
you supposed to be capable to do both
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>>53830246
t. autist that probably got scared when saw anything that was different from Canada
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>>53830196
You're literally not even in the same league as any west european country when it comes to cultural influence.
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>>53830196
Haha fuck. No, you don't. Not even close. Brazil has absolutely no cultural projection overseas.
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>>53830350
Even arabs are better at exporting their exploding culture than Brazil.
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>>53830340
Hardly scared, I was almost a foot taller than the average man. My partners in Brazil told me not to out at night "being so obviously rich", though.
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>>53830196
No one emulates your culture (well maybe your neighbors, not sure desu). I've never even heard Brazilians mention your music, film, literature or art. You shit up online video games (must be your culture). Your fashion contribution is a thong bikini. Your food is good but I have to go to little Brazil (I live in NYC) and that's half a block. Oh and a lot of Catholic countries do Carnival so don't try to claim it.
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>>53829502
its around 8% black, the 50% are mulattos,but the whites are in the south, its not a meme, there are veeery few whites in the north.
>>53829988
stopped reading on great weather
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>>53828560
that pic
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>>53828560
>>53828793
stop
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>>53829027
*low IQ uneducated labour force inserted in a global information economy

brazil could have worked if people stopped voting for trash-tier mainstream politicians on parties like PT and PSDB and elected someone intelligent with a plan like Cristovam Buarque, but plebeians just like meme politicians better, cf. Bolsonaro
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>>53829988
>Able to export culture worldwide
what
>Foreign companies cather to our needs intead of imposing their country's needs over us
Doesn't something as simple as a play station costs a bazillion shekels there?
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>>53829743
>Jews
>not white
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>>53830258
>at least i hope you have inherited their teeth, too.
You do realize cosmetic dentistry is big here. Also personally I ended up with my German sides teeth (slight gap and overbite before braces).
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>>53830800
t. Avishalom Goldstein
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>>53830571
>stopped reading on great weather
This I thought a lot of your country was like inland Florida hot and humid.
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>>53830350
Yeah sure, 5 times World Cup truly says we are truly irrelevant world wide culturally just for an example. Nobody have a clue what Brazilians are good at
>>53830365
yeah sure, because the european culture is sure accessible to everyone, I am truly sure that anyone can become european, that is why those that go to Europe feel at home right way when they start living there... oh wait
>>53830545
>No one emulates your culture (well maybe your neighbors, not sure desu).
tell that to /int/
>I've never even heard Brazilians mention your music, film, literature or art.
Because you have never asked them 2bh
>Your fashion contribution is a thong bikini
kek, never heard of SPFW?
>Oh and a lot of Catholic countries do Carnival so don't try to claim it.
Yeah but ours is the bigger one
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>>53829424
blame the US and Perón, we had a good thing going
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Israel

Top tier scientists, high-tech, run by fucking Jews, but is in constant warfare on 4 fronts, has too many Arabs and Arab-Jews in it, and also Orthodox Jew leeches.

If Israel were an island filled with 100% ashkenazi Jews it would be the best country in the world.
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>>53829432
>netherlands and belgium
you had nothing to do with any of it, nothing positive at least
>>53829483
You're mixing Congos
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>>53829743
>a new age of peace, peace with Iran and Cuba,
And pulling out of middle east, allowing ISIS to form and restarting the cycle.
>universal health care,
Failure, will be bankrupt soon
>no more getting shot,
Wasn't a problem before, he has only increased racial tensions.
>nobel prizes,
Peace prize isn't a nobel prize.
>minorities like gays get constitutional protection,
Granted.
privacy and net neutrality get on the agenda
Granted, not that he's done much about it.
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>>53830754
it's because the government wants it to, also we are the largest buyer of Fiat cars worldwide I think, there were models like Fiat Marea and Brava that continued here just because our market demanded and this is just an example. The Volkswagen Kombi resumed production until 2014 because it was a landmark for the Brazilian people
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>>53829293
>empires should be concerned with making good colonies
Top kek
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>>53830958
>Nobody have a clue what Brazilians are good at
literally considered as wasted potential because they have a clue.
i'd put my country way ahead of yours if you excluding people's potential factor
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>>53830958
>>I've never even heard Brazilians mention your music, film, literature or art.
>Because you have never asked them 2bh
Most nationalities bring that shit up without asking.
>>Your fashion contribution is a thong bikini
>kek, never heard of SPFW?
No, actually I haven't.
>>Oh and a lot of Catholic countries do Carnival so don't try to claim it.
>Yeah but ours is the bigger one
It might be. I'll give you its better than our Mardis Gras which is mostly abunch of dudes whipping it out and people vomiting.
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>>53831092
ISIS gained ground because when the USA overthrew the Iraqi regime you didn't take over any ruling or policing body. It was literally anarchy.

After a few years of anarchy the country will be destroyed. Staying or pulling out 10 years later won't change that.
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>>53831292
Especially when all countries neighbouring Iraq are fighting to get a piece of the pie.
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>>53831115
>literally considered as wasted potential
if you think about everything could be classified as wasted potential.
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>>53828560
Russia.
Stupid commies ruined our economy
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>>53831292
Exactly, but he pulled out.
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>>53830968
Yeah your Gommies have done a bang up job.
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>>53831012
they were part of the spanish empire and were created after getting independence from it
the only difference between british and spanish colonies is that we didn't genocided they fuck out of everything we conquered
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>>53831292
In Dutch we have a saying: "Gentle healers make festering wounds"
Which kind of means: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"

That's what happened with Iraq.
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>>53831012
>nothing positive
yeah, we genocide you, but only a bit. i thought its few possitive. If we had genocide all, had been pretty much positive desu.
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>>53831095
dude, you get outdated vehicles made from equipment that was dismissed here years ago
and that's because of retarded import fees, doesn't sounds like minding to your needs
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>>53828560
The USA is the only correct answer
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>>53828560
>All of Africa was always going to be shit
Naw m8 Angola, Zimbabwe and Malawi had potential under blacks (if colonisation never happened)

>seems like Latin American countries could have been alright
Argentina could have done fine, along with Uruguay and Chile. Not sure about the rest.
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>>53831617
Man, Brazilian cars are made to run with any combination of petrol and ethanol, yours aren't not to mention those who run with gas. >>53830754
>what
What he meant is that Brazilian culture is recognized worldwide.
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>>53831692
Zimbabwe could have been great as Rhodesia.
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>>53832038
What is Brazilian culture? Having beaches and loving football? Because many countries on this planet have better beaches than you, and almost the entire planet aside from East Asia and North America enjoys football quite a bit as well.

You're literally known for being mixed race, poor with a failing economy, and an obsessed with soccer.
Soccer is a sport for girls, anyways.
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>>53832455
They are also known for carnival, something which is celebrated by Catholics from Italy to the Netherlands to Mexico.

But despite that their culture is recognized they don't really export it. No one ever tried to be more Brazilian.
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>>53828560
Germany, of course. They had so many chances to be a dominant power in Europe, and always messed it up, always for the most retarded of fucking reasons. We see this even today in their complete inability (or unwillingness) to handle the eurocrisis while inviting ONE AND A HALF MILLION """refugees""" within their borders, when their country already has the lowest fertility rate on the fucking planet.

If Germany was inhabited and ruled by anyone but the Germans, it'd be a fucking superpower.
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>>53832588
Right, I forgot about carnival., which they are known for while other Catholic nations are not because they took the event to a degenerate extreme with some of the most tacky and garish aesthetics a culture has ever produced.

Have you ever noticed how in extremely cold/Northern towns, many of the buildings and homes have been colored bright colors? It's because they have so little sunlight that the residents become depressed, and the bright colors help to marginally lessen this effect.
The same holds true for Brazil. They are depressed due to their poverty and lack of social cohesion (look at that crime rate! Especially violent crime) so they overcompensate by blaring loud colors.
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>>53832722
>If Germany was inhabited and ruled by anyone but the Germans, it'd be a fucking superpower.
Send help nederbro
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>>53832455
being a failed economy has nothing to do with culture, my leaf friend
we also have nice music, way better than being know for maple syrup
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>>53830958
>trying to explain to gringos about Brazil
They think we are the docile central americans, they forget that we expelled everyone who attempt colonization here, from the french to the dutch, we never took shit from anyone. They forget how the Brazilians fought in the Alps with ragamuffins during ww2 and won the respect of their enemies. They think the Brazilian economy can be measured by nominal terms without losing meaning and that we have no cultural reach, despite leaving such a big footprint in places like China, Japan and Africa. Pay attention fellow countryman, they will only respect us with sword in hand and a ballistic missile cramped with nukes beside us. Don't waste your time.
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>>53832455
>What is Brazilian culture
What is Canadian culture? You ask anyone in Japan, China or Middle-east and they will have not a single clue, nonetheless, even if stereotyped (like every culture is) they will know about Brazil. That's what cultural reach is.
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>>53832916
Prosperity absolutely has everything to do with culture. I've literally never heard any of your music but from I've seen of your visual arts I'm going to assume it's insipid.
>>53833058
Canadian culture doesn't exist. I never claimed it did. I'm not asserting the superiority of my country over yours. But Canada absolutely will be recognized internationally more frequently than Brazil will be. Our flag is iconic and we are very widely known for the being polite, peace keeping Americans. They might even mention mooses or maple syrup.
Brazil with get "Oh, they are great at football and won the world cup a few times". I doubt they'd even know you speak Portuguese and not Spanish.
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>>53828978
Not as big as retards think.
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>>53829298
They don't have subsidize to compete in today's economy. Like they have the labour and the land but weak in money and protecting it's interests from stronger nations
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>>53831617
we got newer cars m8 every year that was just an example. And you forgot that they are produced here in Brazil. Fiat has got an industry here for a long time so no need to pay import rates
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>>53829298
>all those cash crop potentials

Oh baby am I rock hard
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>>53833321
My friend, you talk like the average human being is erudite. Do you think France is remembered as the country of Sartre and Camus? Or that Spain as the country of Saramago and Dali? No! People remember of France as Paris and the Eiffel Tower, of Zidane and escargots! And Spain as the place of "Corrida de toro" or "Flamenco". The same way Brazil will be recognized for bossa nova and samba instead of Lispector and Villa-Lobos. It's all stereotyped.
>But Canada absolutely will be recognized internationally more frequently than Brazil will be
Not at all, the World is not the USA. You have literally no footprint at all in the world. Nobody knows abything about Canada. What is Canada? What is the music that came from Canada? What is their food? Which sport do they play? Tell me one of theirs internationally recognized sites please! Do you understand? You can't compare the cultural reach of Canada and Brazil.
> I doubt they'd even know you speak Portuguese and not Spanish
This fortunately only happens in Canada and the US. I've never heard anyone outside those places saying this. It may happen, but it's not common.
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>>53833321
you know that in the end you guys just ride the Anglo tide. We on other hand are doing it on our own 2bh, as we always did. Because even tho we are very similar to the other latin nations they still havant got stronger ties with us. But that will probably change with the EU getting BTFO and Portugal getting an union with us makin we more close to Southern Europe despite already having tons of their companies in our territory
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>>53834338
>Spain as the country of Saramago and Dali
>spanish representatives are a Portuguese and a overrated hack
oh, well
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>>53834502
Okay, I kinda fucked up with Saramago, but Dali is goat. stop complaining.
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>>53828560
>Latin American countries could have been alright
Yeah, too bad about that Monroe doctrine right?
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>>53831398
that's the thing, nothing pointed to argentina becoming a communist state, Peron was completely against it you fucking retard
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>>53834609
nah, Dali is pure overrated shit who was pumped by the government because of the war with most of the artists dead or exiled, he actually became fascist to be closer to the government
you had plenty of answers even if you only want to take people from the last century
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>>53829432
>netherlands and belgium
yeah good fucking job on those two
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>>53829988
>Great weather
fuck off, the only acceptable city is Curitiba.
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>>53828560
South Africa.

Could've been a gem of Africa.
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>>53830350
Well at least they are able to make immigrants integrate well
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>>53834829
Okay okay, no need to be upset. It's because I like his work. So, change them for Lorca and Picasso then.
Also, sorry for saying Saramago, I always fucked up because he lived in Spain during his last years and I happen to have read english translations of his work for practice purposes.
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>>53835293
it's ok, most of spanish people won't even know who he was or will think that he was either spanish or southamerican
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